McDaniels vows flexibility to make Broncos best they can be

By Jeff Legwold, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)

Published January 28, 2009 at 9:45 p.m.

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January 28, 2009

11:45 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

And we hope to see you there, Josh (SB). It will be a chore for the D to come together in such a short time. It can be done, though, if he can get smart players.
January 29, 2009

5:05 a.m.

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TheSlinger writes:

i've got a feeling that next season is going to highly resemble this season. high powered offense. terrible defense. we just don't have the personnel to throw a 3-4 out on the field. our D lineman are small and our linebackers are smaller. might be time to think about trading champ for a impact player and some draft picks. hope cutler and jmac get along or cutler could be gone when his contract is up also.
January 29, 2009

5:13 a.m.

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awhite411 writes:

A 3-4? Sounds good on paper with the right personnel, but this current group can't get pressure even when blitzing. The whole defense will have to be re-worked and better players definitely will have to be signed!

J.R.

Jupiter, Florida
January 29, 2009

7:09 a.m.

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DeimosJB writes:

We've got lots of people suited to the 3-4, such as basically all our linebackers, as well as Dumervil, Moss, etc. Get a stout Nose Tackle, and the whole 3-4 is drastically altered. We desperately need a NT in the draft or FA. If we get that, get rid of Bly, get a new corner to replace him and a couple safeties, our defense would be 100% better. Is that a tall order to fill - yeah, it is, but it is within the realm of possibility.
Special Teams also needs a drastic overhaul. I think the most important thing is the mindset. Special Teams is not an afterthought, it is important, and that means getting your best players out on the field for ST, whether they are starters or not.
Offense racked up a ton of yards, but needs to do better at getting into the end zone. If Torain, Hillis or both come back healthy and strong, that will be huge. Another year of maturity for Cutler, Marshall, Royal, and Scheffler will be huge.
Take heart, our team will be much better this year. The problem I see is that our schedule will be much harder this year too. Winning 10 games is highly optimistic this year.
January 29, 2009

7:16 a.m.

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cmcray1 writes:

Slinger-Mac will go long before Cutler. Cutler is untouchable.
January 29, 2009

7:23 a.m.

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SparkyAFD writes:

I have to smile when I hear all the Bly bashing....with a defense that cant get any type of pass rush, and Champ on the other side, of course they are going to attack Bly's side of the field. Is he as good as Champ..probably not...but with a decent pass rush he is more than servicable, and we definately have greater needs than replacing a servicable corner. Even Champ had more plays to his side this year, as he couldnt cover the receivers for the amount of time our D was giving the QB to pass. I agree that wholesale changes need to be made for our front 7, and I for one am willing to take my lumps for a year while we adjust, for the long term good of our team. With a good defensive draft, a few FA pickups and holding current Defensive players accountable, instead of trying to prove he was right to obtain them, we will get better. On the RB side...Hillis would be my choice...big and powerful like a mike anderson, great hands, and will only get better at blocking.
January 29, 2009

7:45 a.m.

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dealer writes:

I watched an interview with Ed Reed, a couple weeks back.
he was asked,what makes him such a great safety. he said,
i can tell you in two words. pass rush.
January 29, 2009

7:59 a.m.

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jmgswarman writes:

SparkyAFD- I could not agree more. People that continue to rag on Bly are people that really don't understand football. Bly is by no means a shutdown guy but he is an adequate corner with good playmaking ability. As a game wears on there is not a WR in the NFL that will fail to get separation if his QB has all day to throw the ball and it is the D-Line’s total failure to make plays and exert pressure that results in Bly looking so foolish. I really hope that McDaniels and his staff understand that they need to spend the majority of the off-season totally restructuring the defensive front, worrying about the secondary is a luxury. They must sign or draft a top class DT/NT and they should set their absolute hearts on luring Peppers from Carolina. They really do need an upgrade in the quality of playing personnel in that area of the game. I truly believe that if they improve this facet of the game, everything else will start to fall into place quickly.

I too hope McDaniels and Cutler develop a good relationship because Cutler remains an absolutely outstanding prospect.

And great comment also reader.
January 29, 2009

8:01 a.m.

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jmgswarman writes:

SparkyAFD- I could not agree more. People that continue to rag on Bly are people that really don't understand football. Bly is by no means a shutdown guy but he is an adequate corner with good playmaking ability. As a game wears on there is not a WR in the NFL that will fail to get separation if his QB has all day to throw the ball and it is the D-Line’s total failure to make plays and exert pressure that results in Bly looking so foolish. I really hope that McDaniels and his staff understand that they need to spend the majority of the off-season totally restructuring the defensive front, worrying about the secondary is a luxury. They must sign or draft a top class DT/NT and they should set their absolute hearts on luring Peppers from Carolina. They really do need an upgrade in the quality of playing personnel in that area of the game. I truly believe that if they improve this facet of the game, everything else will start to fall into place quickly.

I too hope McDaniels and Cutler develop a good relationship because Cutler remains an absolutely outstanding prospect.

I MEAN'T TO SAY GREAT COMMENT DEALER!!!
January 29, 2009

8:25 a.m.

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IAbronco writes:

Bly? Are you kidding me? Ok, blame some of it on the rush, but this guy couldn't cover and got burned all the time, even on running plays. He was constantly out of position. That wasn't the lack of pass rush that created a lot of those situations. Either he stunk or he got burned all the time trying to make the highlight reel. Either way, his good plays didn't make up for the tons of bad ones.
January 29, 2009

8:52 a.m.

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burton372 writes:

Not that I disagree with anyone, it seems our whole defensive scheme needs a makeover. We have been trying to establish a pass rush for the last decade, it seems. However, one thing I miss the most about Denver is a hard-hitting safety that rules the field and runs around with his hair on fire. I just don't see our guys filling that spot. Lynch was great for our D because he gave our CB's the ability to jump passes and play a little more aggressively. Last season it looked like we ran a friggin prevent D every down. CB's were playing everything in front because they were scared to let anything behind. We need to pick up a legitimate safety and soon... If not this year, then we need to jump all over USC's Mayes next year
January 29, 2009

8:57 a.m.

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MTBroncofan writes:

I believe Bly's shortcomings are a result of 1) Champ Bailey (because nobody throws at Champ), 2) lack of pass rush, and 3) inconsistent defensive scheme. Honestly, if the Broncos would have been able to generate a consistent pass rush last season they would have made the playoffs. Anyhow, if we can develop a better pass rush and a consistent defensive scheme, I think we'll all see Dre Bly become a much better cornerback.

I'm not saying that we shouldn't be looking to upgrade his position, but to me it is not the most pressing need this team has. Start with the D line... primarily nose tackle. They need to do whatever it takes to generate huge pass rush. The second most pressing need is safety. We need two Atwaters...

If the Broncos can fill those needs, then maybe focus on upgrades to cornerback and/or linebacker. This is gonna be a fun year to watch the transformation of the Broncos. I'm excited! Go Broncos!
January 29, 2009

9:10 a.m.

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Jcbronco writes:

Yep the Bly bashers are the people who have very little insight into what's really going on during plays. They think because the ball was completed near a corner it was their fault, well then you really don't understand a zone defense.

Playing 10 yards off the reciever isn't their choice, it's the coaching staff. It's something you have to do when the front four can get absolutely zero pass rush.

As for saying Bly is out of position on running plays? Who the hell wants a 180 lb corner coming up on run support unless his name is Champ. If Bly is having to make tackles then the front 7 is not doing there job.

Now here is the main reason to keep Bly, pay attention here. His contract was completely front loaded with a signing bonus. He made 1 mil last year and is set to do the same next year. You're not gonna get another corner as good as him to get paid that. Trading him will bring back nothing and cutting him will cost a lot against the cap because of his signing bonus.
January 29, 2009

9:12 a.m.

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coachk writes:

I dont really criticize Bly for his coverage skills but he refuses to tackle and that is what hurts us. His contiuing to slap at the ball and watch the ball carrier get 10-15 extra yards is the main problem. Teams ran the ball to his side way more than Champs because he comes up and tackles. Even Bell tackled.
January 29, 2009

9:12 a.m.

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maverick7 writes:

dealer, you are right about that one. Guess who is part of their pass rush, thats right, Trevor Pryce, healthy and playing good for Balt. sure only 4.5 sacks but he also wasn't playing every down.
To move to the 3-4 is a good one. Defenses can be changed a little easier than Offenses. As everyone said get some Dline help and I think the LBs that we have can make it happen. IMO, get rid of Webster and maybe Winborn, too much celebrating and not enough tackling, re-evaluate BBailey (seems like one of those that is hurt a lot), Turn Larsen into a full time MLB Keep Williams free to make plays, turn Woodyard loose and find (draft or fa) a solid MLB that likes to eat RB for dinner! Set them down during camp and show them how to tackle again, not just hit and thump your chest, wrap up and go back to the huddle, and the crew would start to look like a D again.
January 29, 2009

9:20 a.m.

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royalmarshalls writes:

The major problem I have with Bly is....

He was the highest paid Bronco last year at 10 million. Something has got too be changed there. I am sure we can find a more suitable 10 million dollar corner. Yes, the pass rush was disgusting, but Bly has a very large issue with proper tackling. If he took a pay cut, we improved the pass rush, then yes, he would be a very good corner opposite Champ Bailey.
January 29, 2009

9:28 a.m.

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royalmarshalls writes:

maverick7,

I completely agree, Webster needs to go. I am on the fence about Winborn myself, he brought alot of fire and good play most of the time regardless of the seizures he had. Boss Bailey is expendable is my opinion, as is Niko. I cannot beleive we paid that much money to a guy who was, if I am correct, Lofa Tatupu's backup. I think if we could get Rey Maualuga for a MLB, along with the remaining guys we have at the linebacker position(Woodyard, DJ ect) plus major work on the line, the Defense will be transformed drastically. Am I saying this is something that can be done with a smile and a blink of an eye? Absolutely not, but I do think it is something we are capable of getting done.
January 29, 2009

9:28 a.m.

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Jcbronco writes:

Not sure where you get your info from royalmarshalls, but it clearly states Bly was paid 1 million last year on usatoday.
January 29, 2009

9:32 a.m.

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buffoklag writes:

Man, there's a lot of pressure on the defensive staff not to mention whoever the players will be. Somehow everyone involved including us has to have faith through the inevitable ups and downs. If we start up giving up yards and points in the first few games, everyone has to avoid the "here we go again" mentality, because how could there not be growing pains? If, lo and behold, we start out stopping people, we also have to avoid the "now we've got it made" syndrome. What we want to see is a significant improvement by the middle of November. But even if things go as well as humanly possible, there's no way it won't be a bumpy ride getting there. BTW it's certainly true the Patriots adopt to the state of their own personnel and the opposition every game - only problem is sometimes that involved throwing almost every play. I don't know how that's going to go over around here, but get prepared to see it. I believe they envisioned a power running game featuring Lawrence Maroney who looked like the guy early on, but has suffered a similar fate to our own backs in that he "can't stay healthy." Duh, the NFL's a tough tough place to "stay healthy!"
January 29, 2009

9:34 a.m.

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BigRedCelt writes:

Sparky and jmsgwarman---get over yourselves. I understand the game perfectly well having played and coached some 35 yrs. Well enough to know that Bly STINKS. I don't speak of his coverage skills. I speak of the fact that he's a candy@$$. I've seen him avoid more head up tackles, only to be able to drag the guy down from behind 10-20 yrds downfield, than I care to count. As one announcer praised him for "staying with the play" 20 yrds downfield. He wouldn't have had to stay with the play had he manned up and made the tackle in the hole. He could have kept Thomas (New Orleans) out of the endzone had he not pulled up. Again, afraid to stick his nose in and make a head up tackle. Yes, a pass rush helps coverage no doubt, but Bly stinks. He's got no heart.

Make all the excuses for this clown you like, but he stinks.

DRE BLY MUST GO!!!!!
January 29, 2009

9:37 a.m.

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Jcbronco writes:

Well you must have been a great coach if you were expecting your corners to make all the tackles. Considering the best cornback in the history of the NFL was a terrible tackler.
January 29, 2009

9:37 a.m.

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Broncody writes:

I think we have the talent in the LB core. The D-line is my concern. I don't know that we have a D-lineman who would start on any other team. That might be a little harsh but still... I want three big OL eating D-lineman in the draft. Don't care what round just get some bulk in there. Still praying for a trade down and Moala but I'll leave that up to the people who can actually make that decision. Good luck Broncos.
January 29, 2009

9:53 a.m.

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6_is_the_new_7 writes:

Boncody, We have a ton of talent at LB, especially if Doom and Moss can convert to OLB spots. Woodyard stays put at LB. DJ goes back to the middle. However, I don't disagree with those saying we should draft Rey at #12. He could vastly improve our D. We'll see who's available when our pick comes. I can't wait! Go Broncos
January 29, 2009

9:59 a.m.

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SE7EN writes:

I'm tired of people bagging on Bly. Our whole secondary can't do its job with the D-line gives the QB all day to throw. Defense 101 - the battles are won/lost up front. Imagine, if we cloned Champ Bailey, Got Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu to play Safety...we'd still get burned in the secondary because our D-line is HORRIBLE at getting pressure. Any money spent in the secondary on big name players is a waste unless we can pressure the QB.

Bailey's best year at CB was when Larry Coyer was blitzing 5 players every other down.

Since Bly joined the team, this D-line has been the worst at pressuring the QB. They are horrible. You expect Bly or Bailey to cover a WR for 8 seconds? I'm surprised at how clueless some bronco fans are when it comes to pointing fingers at Bly. It wasn't too long ago that everyone was losing faith in Darrent Williams for getting burned. You line up opposite Champ Bailey and the opposing QB has all day to throw, the opposing WR has all day to get open...then you blame the CB for getting burned all game. Learn about defense people. Doesn't matter if you're the best Defensive Back ever. If your D-line is useless, you can't do your job effectively.
January 29, 2009

10:05 a.m.

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6_is_the_new_7 writes:

That being said, SE7EN, Bly and Bailey are going into their 11th season. Paymah is gone I'm sure. We have Bell and Williams, but that's it.
January 29, 2009

10:09 a.m.

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jugdish writes:

Bottom line, this defense lacks a vocal leader who backs it up with excellent play on the field. If MLB Rey Maualuga is available when the Broncos pick, they should snap him up quickly. Broncos also need to look at safety. I too agree the DL is a major concern, but don't reach in the draft for a DL. They tend to come with the biggest bust potential. Draft the best player available, and if you can get what you want by trading down, do it. Same for trading up as long as the price is not too high.
As for dealing with the DL. There are some very good free agents including Julius Peppers and Al Haynesworth. But they will be very pricey.
Some FA the Broncos should look at are LB/DE Terrell Suggs, MLB Jonathan Vilma and LB Karlos Dansby.
DB: Champ's getting older but has plenty left in the tank. However he really needs more pre-season conditioning attention. Get him a troupe consisting of everything from a nutritionist to a yoga guru.
Bly, we may be stuck with for a while. I agree he gets smoked more times than a fat blunt at a reggae concert, but there's not much out there free agent wise besides the Raiders Asomugha and his price tag will be way too high.
As for safety, same thing. It's thin FA wise. Need to draft to fill this position. One option would be RFA Dawan Landry. Throw some money at him. If the Ravens match it, so be it. I sure wish Taylor Mays was coming out this year. Broncos could use him.
January 29, 2009

10:10 a.m.

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6_is_the_new_7 writes:

Plus people talk about doing the old Bronco trademark of moving them to safety as they move toward the final years of their careers.
January 29, 2009

10:20 a.m.

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jtlee719 writes:

All I have to say concerning Dre Bly is the first game Champ was out, we had a rookie starting on the other side across from Bly. You would think they would pick on the rookie instead of the veteran. Wrong, as 4 of the first 5 passes were to Bly's side, and of course Bly was only about 5 yards away from the receiver when he caught the ball. That should tell you something about the respect other teams have for him, NONE. He needs to go now!!!! Use that money to get a pass rush. If the d-backs rely on a pass rush, shouldn't we spend more money on the line to get the rush instead of on an average corner?
January 29, 2009

10:22 a.m.

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Broncody writes:

I've read on a few different mock draft sites with player analysis that Maualuga has some motivation problems. Not so high on him since I found that. Could be a made up statement but still left a bad taste in my mouth. Haynesworth... doesn't he stomp on heads...? Could be wrong didn't look it up just something I think I remember. I think Vilma might be worth taking a look at if we don't take a LB in the first. There is so much that the fans don't know that I wish I could find out.
Is Powell capable of eating up blockers at NT?
Will Thomas put in the work to make playing DE an option for him?
Do Moss or Elvis want to play LB?
Are they wanting to persue Peppers or Vilma?
Can they coach up Barrett to get him to make plays with all of his athletic gifts?
How is Torain's body holding up?
Does Robertson want out now that the 3-4 may be going into effect?
All of this changes my oppinion on whether Raji, Orakpo, Rey, Moala, or even Knowshon is the right pick.
January 29, 2009

10:23 a.m.

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6_is_the_new_7 writes:

Jugdish, I too believe we are in desperate need of a vocal leader on defense. However, I don';t think a rookie will be that guy. Peppers, maybe? He wants to play OLB though and we already have Doom and Moss to trying fill that role.
January 29, 2009

10:25 a.m.

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BroncoJones writes:

If you add age, injuries, lack of talent in some spots, lack of size in others, and the fact that we are switching to a 3-4 together...you can see a draft full of defense. Fortunately, there are some CB/KR s available after we grab Rey M. at LB and Ron Brace at NT. Special teams are hurtin' too.

If you are going to change things up with a new staff and a new system, doesn't it make sense to do it with some new players?

Go Broncos!
January 29, 2009

10:31 a.m.

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6_is_the_new_7 writes:

Broncody, All very good questions and very important to know before assuming who they will draft. Another one is; Will another team want the #12 bad enough to give us more picks for it?
January 29, 2009

10:43 a.m.

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6_is_the_new_7 writes:

I like the new talk of getting Vilma. I read that if N.O. resigns him they owe the Jets a 2nd instead of a 3rd. Which in turn pushes the Shockey trade up to a 1st. They pick 14th. I don't see N.O. letting that happen. Vilma will be gone. They won't have a 2nd or 3rd round pick, but they can't let their 1st go. They will trade him to try get some picks back. He wanted out of N.Y. soon as the Jets went 3-4 though.
January 29, 2009

11:02 a.m.

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Broncody writes:

The team I see wanting the #12 pick is Detroit. 12 for 20 and a third and swap seconds. Don't know about that point system but I know Detroit needs alot of help and may want to trade up for another high pick. I think that helps both teams but I am biased.

When I read about Peppers wanting to play for a 3-4 and wanting an opportunity to make an impact I thought he was basically asking to come to Denver. As I thought about it though he may have been hinting at NE or PIT as well. Take a shot at him McD.
January 29, 2009

11:10 a.m.

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6_is_the_new_7 writes:

Point wise your figuring is about right. I don't like it though because then we only have a 20 and 33 in the first three rounds.
January 29, 2009

11:14 a.m.

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6_is_the_new_7 writes:

Vilma for Bly and the 12 for the 14, They get Rey, we get Vilma. Then we trade #14 to Detroit along with Selvin Young for their #20 and #33. We get Vilma, a #20 and #33 for our #12, Bly, and Young. Detroit gets #14 and Young for their #20 and #33. N.O. gets #12 and Bly for their #14 and Vilma. Best of all we get rid of Bly and Young. Win,win,win.
January 29, 2009

11:40 a.m.

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Itchy writes:

BigRedCelt- I've been a coach and a player as well and I can see the lack of effort in Bly's play. He's not soley responsible for the defensive woes and he's not responsible for the poor scheme but he is part of the problem and needs to go. Bly too often lets himself get blocked so he doesn't have to make a tackle. If I were his coach I wouldn't stand for it. People that think he's a keeper probably have their homes financed with an A.R.M.
January 29, 2009

11:48 a.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

Broncody, you spoke of how they said Maualuga has motivational problems? Is that why he's picked to go early in the 1st? Point is, don't put so much stock in what these "analysts" say. If he was so bad at being motivated, he wouldn't be in the 1st round. Stop thinking about the negative (which I believe the "analysts" over-play) and understand what this kid has that made him a 1st round choice.
January 29, 2009

11:51 a.m.

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discer writes:

Vilma and DJ together again. Maybe a D lineman and D Back with their first two picks. The intriguing possibilities are endless and as a fan it is always fun to speculate!
January 29, 2009

12:01 p.m.

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Broncody writes:

Kooiman wow thats alot to absorb. If Vilma is going to be a FA why trade for him though. In my trade scenario though I wanted the Lions third too not give up ours. The most likely scenario though is the Broncos picking at #12 though. In that case I still don't know if LB is our most pressing need. Who on the DL do you really feel good about? I know they turn out to be busts too often but I think there is some talent in there. Orakpo, Raji, or Moala could all help the D-line. The war is won in the trenches. I played TE/DE and know the importance of having big boys in the middle.
January 29, 2009

12:08 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

discer, this is my concern about Vilma for a long term career.

On October 27, 2007, Vilma was placed on injured reserve.He suffered a season ending knee injury during the New York Jets week 7 game against the Cincinnati Bengals. Vilma was diagnosed with osteochondritis dissecans (OCD) in high school, a bone defect that can cause instability and loose particles in the joint, and this is a possible cause behind his season-ending injury in 2007.

Reason for concern? Maybe, maybe not, but how much is Denver willing to spend on a person who may not last the career? As he gets older, the problem becomes more of a, well, problem.
January 29, 2009

12:11 p.m.

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Broncody writes:

DD my coment about Rey having motivational problems was in regard to a post about needing a leader and that was why I don't know Maualuga was the solution for that.

If you never look at the negative you end up drafting Maurice Clarett... Not saying he is anywhere that bad but just saying.

My main thought about not taking Maualuga is that yes he makes an immediate impact but he is not playing a needed position. Woodyard, Williams, Larsen, Elvis, Moss, and possibly Winborn and Bailey, We don't need a LB. Would Rey help out, almost surely yes, but wouldn't a D-lineman fix more than a LB.
January 29, 2009

12:11 p.m.

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discer writes:

Well, Mmmmel Kiper says it will bee Raji because his "stock is rising" since he was so dominate in the Sr. Bowl workouts. I heard that he did well in the game but I did not see it. If it all starts with the Nose Tackle as Joe Collier stated then Raji would make sense.
January 29, 2009

12:14 p.m.

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discer writes:

If I could only proofread!!!
January 29, 2009

12:19 p.m.

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6_is_the_new_7 writes:

I kinda like the sound of that Taylor guy someone mentioned from Michigan. I like Mitch King/DE from Iowa. I'm biased there though. I like Brace.
January 29, 2009

12:25 p.m.

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6_is_the_new_7 writes:

On ESPN Scouts Inc. now has Raji ranked #3 overall.
January 29, 2009

12:39 p.m.

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Broncody writes:

Terrence Taylor is a big body but had a poor showing at the Senior Bowl I read. So I see him as a solid 4th round pick for a NT. Bit of a gamble but has the "tools" to be a NT in my oppinion. King is from the town I live in right now so I would love to see him get picked up by the Broncos!
January 29, 2009

12:57 p.m.

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liesandpropaganda08 writes:

So many coaches out there.....not that I don't believe all of you, but what teams do you coach and where are they from?

That Raji kid will be gone well before we pick at 12. LB is not the most pressing need, but we need to pick the best defensive player available at 12 or trade down. Maualaga at 12....Orakpo did not show up consistently throughout the season. I have not seen Moala play, so somebody that has needs to give us some insight. Not what you saw on ESPN or Googled....anyone can do that. Many of you out there post word-for-word the same info on the web, yet credit them in no way when you post.

According to USA Today...Dre Bly counted around 4.5 Mil against the cap last year. His Base Salary was 1 Mil. I don't give a crap about his base salary OR the 9 Mil paid to him last year due to a signing bonus....what matters is the cap number. That dictates the moves we can make in FA and long term contracts available to proven players.
January 29, 2009

1:10 p.m.

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6_is_the_new_7 writes:

L&P, no coaching, just speculating, throwing s**t out there. Not based on anything. Appreciate the input. I get carried away sometimes. Didn't steal any information without trying to say where I read it though. By the way, where on USA Today do you go to find out salaries and what they count against the cap?
January 29, 2009

1:19 p.m.

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bossmancmo writes:

I watched the Senior Bowl, And i payed particular attention to the DT's and Maualuga. And from what i saw in the game is that Raji is NOT all what the hype is pumping him up to be. The practices are overrated in my eyes. The "analyst" say Raji had such a steller week of practice but if that doesnt translate into the game then why does it matter???? Brace didnt impress me either. Maola made some solid plays, he is a steady,quality player. The DT that impressed me was Jerry. That guy has a Motor that doesnt stop. I dont kno if he is worth a number 12 pick but i was VERY impressed by him. Maualuga impressed me as well. I watched SC all year and pretty much knew what to expect from him and he didnt dissapoint. Sure he may be out of position on some tackles but he is a playmaker plain and simple.
January 29, 2009

1:22 p.m.

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bossmancmo writes:

Allot of people are mentioning safties and wished Taylor Mays came out early but a guy people are over looking is the safety playing opposite of Mays at SC Kevin Ellison. He got hurt late in the year and missed the rose bowl and senior bowl but he can play. He's athletic, Fundamentally sound, and he HITS. If he can get healthy he should be considered at the SS position
January 29, 2009

1:26 p.m.

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6_is_the_new_7 writes:

Thanks for the plug of USA Today! Good stuff. Anybody ever go to Bleacher Report?
January 29, 2009

1:49 p.m.

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CanadianBronco writes:

Kooiman.

No way Detriot gives up the 20 and 33 to move up to the 12th. Its wishful thinking and wouldnt mind it happening but Detriot has way too many holes to give up the 1st pick in the 2nd round.
January 29, 2009

1:59 p.m.

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BigRedCelt writes:

I coach here in Colorado and not dumb enough to put the name of the school here and certainly do not need to prove myself to you or anyone else. Just trying to get the point across to the morons who think just because you have a differing opinion doesn't mean you don't understand the game.

And for jcbronco and others who can't seem to read my fairly simple post...I ll t y p e v e r y s l o w l y....please show me where I said the corner should make all the tackles? OK point made..now read the post again...ah we notice I mentioned that "I don't speak of his coverage skils". My issue with Bly is that he has no sack...corners are not generally speaking, the best of tacklers, but Bly refuses to hit anyone. He has no heart and is the epitome of whats wrong with the Bronco D. That being said, even when we did blitz this season and got in the QBs face passes were completed because defenders were playing so far off the ball.
January 29, 2009

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SparkyAFD writes:

Lots of opinions on Bly. Mike Timlin told reporters that his DB's arent great, but with the constant pressure on the QB, they do a nice job, and look where they are....#1 defense and in the SB. With a better pass rush, Bly will be able to be more of a cover DB, and defend the pass. Something he is pretty good at. He is not a great tackler, but the NFL is full of them...Al Harris is going to the pro bowl and he is a weak tackler too. Dont compare him to Champ...Champ is the exception. If the D does a better job against the rush and puts pressure on the QB, Bly wont have to tackle as much. We do need to address the CB position, as both Champ and Bly are getting up there in age, but its not as pressing as the D line and a good speed rushing LB. Elvis will have to be able to cover TE and RB out of the backfield if he is to play LB, and I am not sure about his backpeddling and coverage skills. Even when we won the SB, our corners werent "Great" but servicable. But the front 7 got the job done enough, and the offense scored...and we did fine.
January 29, 2009

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Jcbronco writes:

First off heres the link to the cap numbers. http://content.usatoday.com/sports/fo...

Second yes Bly counts for a lot against the cap, blame the great gm Shanahan for that one. The only way to get rid of that cap room is to trade him, but what team in their right mind are going to do that. If he is cut then his whole remaing cap balance goes against the cap instead of divided by the seasons remaining on his contract.

For those that don't understand how the cap and signing bonus's work. The whole signing bonus is paid to the player at the start of the contract. Then the amount that goes against the cap is divided by the years of the contract. Basically if a players has a 12 mil signing bonus for their 4 year contract. Then 3 mil goes against the cap yearly. If this player is cut after the second year, the remaining two years go against the cap the 3rd year. Meaning 6 mil in that third year.

Third, you're right BigRedCelt you never said the corner has to make all the tackles. But I would contend run stopping ability of a cornerback is among the least needed abilities of a corner in the NFL. Just watch some NFL games and you'll notice that most corners do not run support very well. I'd rather not have my sub 200 lb corner taking on 220-250 running backs. Sure it's great a couple times a game if they make the tackle, but the amount of time the running backs get to the third level against the broncos should not happen and will wear down the corners.

Plain and simple corner is the position with the least needed revamp on the defensive side of the ball.
January 29, 2009

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SparkyAFD writes:

BIG RED CELT...if your a coach, then you know that the corners are told by THEIR coach to play off the ball...I am sure your corners dont do as they please or if they do, they dont stay on the field. No one here has said that BLY is the second coming, but with 2 Champs, our D would still be horrible. We NEED to get pressure up front, and stop the run with the front 7, not as Jcbronco stated with a sub 200lb corner taking on a 220-250 RB...again i say CHAMP IS THE EXCEPTION. and yes it would be nice if he made a few tackles...but after being steamrolled a few times i am sure he is gunshy about getting blasted again. In time he will be gone..and our D will be fixed (hopefully) and at the end of Jan we will be talking about the Broncos getting ready to win the SB again.
January 29, 2009

2:48 p.m.

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Jcbronco writes:

Yep champ truely is the exception when it comes to run support corners, the bad part is I can think of at least one time where Champs run support resulted in an injury.
January 29, 2009

2:57 p.m.

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Cutler2Marsh writes:

ok all you Bly haters yeah i agree he is not good but trading him or letting him go is stupid because we just wont find someone better at this time unless we get asomugha and that would just be a waist of are money in a place we dont need to spend it, i agree with the ppl saying get Rey with the 12 pick he is a BIG time play maker and just the run stopper we need, we can get a NT with are 2nd pick but to me using are number 12 pick to get someone like BJ just isnt worth it. I say we get peppers stand Doom up move Dj to the middle of the field and let Boss and woodley battle to see who starts at the strong side keep moss on the line because one of his goals for the off season is to put at least 10 pounds on just try and keep him at his natural position???
January 29, 2009

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SparkyAFD writes:

Cutler2Marsh I agree....while a NT is needed, that alone wont make up for shortcomings on the D....again someone servicable or better here, but a nasty, Ray Lewis type, LB with some attitude, good bye to winborn and webster, and being held accountable to the others. Larson would be great in the middle, and elvis while undersized could probably be a good DT he handles double teams all the time anyway,and when a LB comes he should be able to work inside and get to the QB. Moss>>??? not sure he has the desire and drive needed at any size...the position has been wide open and he hasnt taken it yet. Cut your losses there and move on.
January 29, 2009

4:03 p.m.

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TXBRONC writes:

Slinger,

True we don't have personnel to run a 3-4 defense. But its not like McDaniel and Nolan are just going to go with rhe personnel that is currently on the roster. I don't think Bowlen hired McDaniel who in turn hired Nolan just so they keep the status quo on the defense.

Not all of our linebackers are to small to play in a 3-4.
There are at least three that have enough size to function in that kind of a defense (Haggan, Larsen, and D.J. Williams). Granted only D.J. is starter but Larsen just might fit into a starting roll and I don't know what kind of player Haggan's is.

I don't see them trying Champ right now. That's just my gut feeling.

Also why would you think McDaniels and Cutler wont get along? From what I've heard it sounds like they had positive conversation. Besides that teams RARELY let franchise quarterbacks go. Some of the greatest teams in the history of the game had a rocky relationship between the quarterback and the head coach.
January 29, 2009

4:25 p.m.

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6_is_the_new_7 writes:

DJ made less last year than Winborn and Webster!
January 29, 2009

4:45 p.m.

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DrChris writes:

also, isnt D.J. entering the final year of his contract?
January 29, 2009

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Phillies15 writes:

The broncos aren't as far off a 3/4 as a lot of people think, Marcus Thomas can play DE in a 3/4 along with Kenny Peterson, Peterson is more of 3/4 DE anyway. 3/4 DE's aren't there to get to the QB, if they can great thats a plus, but they are there to occupy blockers and be stout against the run, a lot of the better 3/4 DE's were DT's that were decent pass rushers. The OLB's are the ones who are going to be getting to the QB, Dumervil could be decent at it and so could Moss, but who knows with him. DJ Williams can move inside and they need to pick up someone else i like Larsen and maybe im wrong but if he starts i dont think our defense will be to great. In the secondary the could pick up a Safety or two but that comes last first we have to address the front 7.
My hope, in free agency the broncos go after Peppers one of the best all around DE's in football and wants to play in the 3/4, Channing Crowder who played in the 3/4 w/ Miami and can play inside with DJ, They pick up a safety there are quite a few out there that are upgrades, and they pick up a OLB that has played the 3/4. In the draft they do whatever it takes to get BJ Raji, 3/4's dont work with out a stout NT, in the 2nd round they go for Clay Matthews, Larry English or Clint Sintim all would be good 3/4 OLBs.
January 29, 2009

5:06 p.m.

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gahoaglund writes:

"coachk writes:
I dont really criticize Bly for his coverage skills but he refuses to tackle and that is what hurts us. His contiuing to slap at the ball and watch the ball carrier get 10-15 extra yards is the main problem. Teams ran the ball to his side way more than Champs because he comes up and tackles. Even Bell tackled."

Dre Bly was 4th on the team in tackles last season with 62 tackles....54 of them solo. He was 2nd on the team to Winborn in passes defended with 8. He also led the team in interceptions with 2 (Unbelievably low number to lead a team though!) Don't talk out your butts people!
January 29, 2009

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DrChris writes:

Phillies15, you are talking about how we don't need defensive ends, you said Thomas and Peterson would do fine and then at the end of your comment you say we should go after the best DE in free agency ( Julius Peppers )? Im a little confused help me out.

And about Bly, He will be a fine corner next year if we get a pass rush. Yes, he definately is not worth 10 millon a year but get him to take a paycut so we can help out our front seven.
January 29, 2009

6:11 p.m.

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6_is_the_new_7 writes:

Bly doesn't make 10 mil./yr. Check out the site mentioned earlier by Jcbronco.
January 29, 2009

6:41 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

Jcbronco, thanks for the cap website. It's very helpful. The ones that stand out is C. Bailey, D. Robertson (they should trade him), D. Graham and Dre Bly. The CB salaries are crippling. Champ is over 12 million against the cap. The others mentioned are 4 - 4.5 million. They need to show that they still have a love for the game, not just the money and show that they want a ring and take a pay cut for the good of the team. Elway did it and several others of the old Broncos team. Cutler already mentioned that he would do it if needed. Come on guys, step up to the plate. Take a little off it.
January 29, 2009

6:42 p.m.

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MRBONG writes:

didnt bly make the game saving tackle against the chiefs in denver? remember 4th and goal, he tackled the quarterback.and lets not forget baily was hurt almost the whole year , making blys job alot harder . one thing we dont need is starting cornerbacks most teams in the leauge would love to have baily and bly as there starting cornerbacks, bly is a very good number 2 cornerback and a preety good tackling cornerback, most cornerbacks are not very physical. BJ RAJI and some linebackers putting some pressure on the quarterback is what this team needs ...for a start
January 29, 2009

6:49 p.m.

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1denfan writes:

blah, blah, blah lets trade both blye and bailey, they both get burnned on the field. besides bailey is never gonna be the same after being injured, lets pick up a veteran RB and back up QB and let the second sringers take care of the corners position, i have faith in the offence we need to rebuilt our defence.
January 29, 2009

7:18 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

1denfan, huh?????? I see. Did you read something in the paper that said Champ won't be 100% that the rest of the world missed? We have RB's. Hackney is a good backup QB. Maybe they will get someone else, but I doubt it. To say that Champ can't stop anyone is hilarious. Sorry, but once you said that, I couldn't hardly quit laughing. I don't know what Champ you're talking about, but it's not the one from the Denver Broncos? You say to get working on the defense but you want them to get a really good RB and a BU QB? I think you just confused us? You can't spend money on the O like you just said and expect to get quality D? Which is it?
January 29, 2009

7:42 p.m.

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DrChris writes:

1denfan, I dont think your allowed to blog while drunk. You are saying we should trade arguably the best cornerback duo in the NFL! Champ earned his nickname for a reason, because hes the CHAMP! You said let the second stringers take care of the corners? their second stringers for a reason. If we were looking to go 0-16 then your plan would be perfect but unfortunately, were not, so maybe you should give Detroit some advice instead.
January 29, 2009

8:36 p.m.

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TXBRONC writes:

MRBONG,

I'm with you retool the front seven and start getting pressure on the quarterback and you make almost any corner back look good. While Bly did make the game saving tackle against the Chiefs, I still don't think he played all the well for the season. But again, if we retool the front seven and get a nose tackle like Raji and some linebacker help then Bly would probably look a lot better.
January 29, 2009

8:38 p.m.

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6_is_the_new_7 writes:

Yeah, tell them(Detroit) to give us #20 & #33 for #12 & #76. Dave, good site on salaries, huh? Helps alot in trying to figure out who should stay and who should go. One thing though. Some, such as Bly and Graham, count so much against the cap because of the huge signing bonus Shanahan gave them. We can't change that, even if they take a pay cut.
January 29, 2009

8:48 p.m.

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DrChris writes:

Well I think Graham has earned every cent of that paycheck. He is definately one of the better blocking tight ends in the NFL.
January 29, 2009

8:50 p.m.

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6_is_the_new_7 writes:

Check this out. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/11...
January 29, 2009

9:07 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

Kooiman, a trip down memory lane, eh? Cool site.
As far as salary cap, yes, they got the guaranteed $$, but if they take away some of the yearly salary, it can bring in 1-2 more quality players at key spots. Anythings possible. Elway played for minimum for the last few years of his career to bring in talent.
January 29, 2009

9:22 p.m.

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DrChris writes:

Kooiman, awesome site, those sure were the glory days, to bad I wasn't alive to see any of those players play but I do here great stories about them. I was 4 years old when Elway retired.

I dont think were gonna do that much in free agency this year
( unless we bring in Peppers ). We will hopefully build our defense by drafting some solid players like possibly Raji.
January 29, 2009

9:53 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

Peppers is the one I'm all for in FA. He wants to play 3-4. Guess what, Julius?.... I also like Raji, but I would rather get Maualuga, over getting Raji. I know we need a NT 1st, but Maualuga is just so darn good...
January 29, 2009

9:56 p.m.

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MRBONG writes:

1denfan first this is how you spell -offense- 2nd this is how you spell- defense- 3rd did you say we need to rebuilt are defence? do you meen rebuild? 4th i dont think a pulled hamstring is gonna be much of a factor to Baily NEXT YEAR,listen to Chris Cross -stop drinking so much ,you cant really be as stupid as you sound . if theres 1 player on defense thats untouchable its Champ Baily . and Chris Cross- its to bad you were 4 when elway retired because the broncos from 96-98 won more games over a 3 year span then any team in leauge history and 90 percent of the games were blowouts,over by the end of the first quarter, they were amazing-and to me just as good as any football team that ever played -thats why its really hard for me to let go of shanahan i know what he can do with the right personal - oh well ,in the end all youve got is memories right ?
January 29, 2009

10:10 p.m.

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DrChris writes:

Think we would be able to trade with anybody so we can get two first round picks so we can get Raji and Maualuga?
-sounds crazy but anythings possible
January 29, 2009

10:18 p.m.

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liesandpropaganda08 writes:

BigRedCelt- Did I call you out specifically? Why wouldn't you put the name of the school you coach? Kinda' wierd, but okay. You were one of the "listen to me because I'm a coach" people...you brought it up yet run from it. Okay. If you bring up the fact (or lie) that you are a coach in order to bring credibility to your "opinion" you should be more than willing to talk about your team.

What are we gonna' do....come watch?

I help save the free World with chargertom...... not dumb enough to talk about it though....even though I did bring it up!
January 29, 2009

10:56 p.m.

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gahoaglund writes:

MR BONG- You are correct sir, and without Champ making that long INT and return in the 2005 playoffs against New England, they would have tied or broken our 3-year wins total that season! (Denver was 46-10 from '96-'98, and New England ended up 45-11 from '03-'05)
January 29, 2009

11:19 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

liesandpropaganda08, I can understand him not naming the school he coaches. He doesn't know who he's talking to on the other end of the computer. Not just you, but anyone on the blog can call the school with lies about him and jeopardize his career. There could be stalkers, etc.. Not paranoid, just factual. Me, I had no worry like that because I was my own boss. They can't get me fired and I wasn't particularly worried about defending myself. BigRedCelt did the correct thing. Cut him some slack. Chargertom was a legend in his own mind. When I called the Feds in DC on him, they went and probably talked with his mother and she took his computer away, ha, ha. But a person who works a job has to be aware of who will read it and consider how far a person will go to make their life miserable. Psychos in the world, brother.
January 30, 2009

12:08 a.m.

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liesandpropaganda08 writes:

Dave- I'm going to keep doing what I do....they are the ones making claims. I would expect the same if I ran to the ole' "I'm a coach" routine when someone questioned my opinion. Coach or no coach...it doesn't matter. Do you, or have you coached pro ball? Being an outstanding grade school, even college coach doesn't make you an NFL coach, and this is an NFL forum. I'm a coach, I'm a coach. Argue your point without getting into a subject you can't talk about. I don't get on here talking about what I do. If I brought it up as a form of qualification in an argument, a
question of where I work is valid and reasonable.

As far as cutting some slack...what about mrbong ripping the 14 year old kid, only to make spelling mistakes of his own?

Can we all just agree to disagree?
January 30, 2009

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liesandpropaganda08 writes:

I do understand why someone won't post personal information in a public forum. That being said, this can't become one of those superhero forums. There is nothing wrong with questioning those that choose to make claims....otherwise we will end up with a cast of characters that will get obliterated by rival fans that crash our board. A football coach shouldn't be worried about stalkers or getting fired...these guys should be model citizens. They are molding our youth for G-D sake.

That's about all I know for tonight
January 30, 2009

8:43 a.m.

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Phillies15 writes:

lol Chris_Cross what i mean is people act like the personel the broncos have on the team now can't play in a 3/4, when we have guys that can do it. Almost every DT on the team would be 3/4 DE's. What i meant is those guys can play DE in the 3/4 just like Marquand Manual, Vernon Fox, and Marlon McCree all can play safety in our defense.....but does anyone really want them too?

Peppers is one of the best FA defensive players on the market and our front 7 is pathetic and everyone can pretty much agree on that, they couldn't get to the QB or stop the run, so it would be foolish to think we wouldn't get a Defensive Lineman in Free Agency. They were the 29th D in the NFL, of course they are gonna go after some better players i hope so anyway or it will be Shanahan all over again. Shanahan made the mistake of going with has beens, busts, or guys he thought had potential and none of it worked out (examples: Courtney Brown, Gerard Warren, Niko Koutouvides, Dwayne Robertson) so hopefully McDaniels goes out and gets some guys that are proven. Our defense needs some upgrades and Peppers is an upgrade over every single Defensive Lineman we have including DT.
January 30, 2009

8:49 a.m.

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Jcbronco writes:

Great stats on Bly above, I had no idea he was 3rd on the team in tackles. Yes, he was the one that made the game clinching tackle against the Chiefs.

Might seem as if I'm a huge Bly fan, I'm not at all. He is no means a top notch corner in the NFL, but he is a good 2nd corner on the opposite side of champ. He is taking a lot against the cap, but nothing we can do now besides trade him, which will get nothing in return besides cap room. Hopefully they figure out how to get a pass rush before these two corners retire.

The thing about Peppers is he wants to play OLB in a 3-4. He would be the exact position James Harrison is, basically a D end that roams the line of scrimmage.

I also agree with the above posters, we have a decent set up for D ends in the 3-4. Thomas and Peterson would make good D ends taking up blockers as much as they could. Look at the Steelers make up, Aaron Smith is a starting D end. 6'6 300, he just gobbles up blockers so the line backers can run free. Every once in a while colapsing the pocket.

NT and all LB positions are what need to be looked at right now. I like the idea of getting Raji and Peppers, but I like the idea of getting Malunga and Haynesworth even more. Albert takes 2 or even 3 blockers every play, think of all the flying around the LBs could do with that. He's well worth 10 mil against the cap. If anyone saw the breakdown of him on sportscenter you know what I'm talking about.

That just leaves some back up DEs and safties, which I'd like to see more of Barrett. Anyone that can run a 4.35 40 and is 6'3 225 should get a shot. Theres only so much that can be done in one off season.
January 30, 2009

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Phillies15 writes:

And Chris_Cross i never said we didnt need DE's i just said those guys can play it.

DynamicDave, Maualuga is good, but Raji is better and a much bigger need. Maualuga played good in the Senior Bowl game, but during the week of practice Cushing and Matthews both from USC were better, I wouldn't be disappointed if we got Maualuga if Raji wasn't on the board, but if they take Maualuga over Raji i think that would be a mistake. I really don't even like Raji that much because he has character problems, but a NT is so important to a 3/4 and he is the best NT in the draft and FA.
January 30, 2009

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6_is_the_new_7 writes:

Cris_Cross, You're welcome. You're a young pup.(with a drinking problem,ha,ha) No, we won't ever be able to get Raji and Maualuga. In fact, Raji probably will be gone before we draft at #12. To the Bengals. As I posted before Haynesworth is close to re-signing with Tenn. Peppers is going to be awfully spendy. However, he's the one who wants out, so I don't think he would be a risk of being a bust like the ones mentioned that Shanahan thought could turn it around in Denver. Peppers is a game changing player who never stops giving his all. Everbody wants him on their team, including Carolina. Our defense would be so much better with him. In fact, I beleive, that if we got him we would go from having to draft D at #12 to being able to draft best available player at #12. I know we still need a NT and a safety, but we can get them later. I'm not saying don't draft Raji or Rey if they're there, I'm just saying best available player.
January 30, 2009

10:27 a.m.

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buffoklag writes:

Hey, I saw Jay Cutler live in Tampa on ESPN late last night talking exes and ohs with Mark Schlereth! It was way more shop talk than you normally hear and refreshing indeed. He also said all the politically correct things you wanted to here about how he's gotten over the shock and is looking forward to the new regime. Better haircut too! I really think the media has us all figured wrong - I don't believe we're all that interested in guns, night clubs and scandals, and salaries - I think most of us crave exes and ohs and actual football shop talk. I hope that in whatever time the Rocky has left they will realize from our positive response to articles about what really goes on they will give us more of that.
January 30, 2009

11:18 a.m.

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BigRedCelt writes:

liesandpropoganda: I think perhaps you need to go back and re-read my posts. No I am not "listen to me because I'm a coach people" nor am I "If you don't agree with me you're not a real fan person" Everyone has their opinion. I was specifically refering to the comments that those that didn't agree with jcbronco meant that you didn't understand the game. I have no problem with differing opinions, but don't assume others don't understand the game because they don't agree with you. That's it

I understand the premis of zone defenses. I understand nobody can cover and NFL receiver for 6-7 seconds. Have I covered all those points now? My point is this. There are bad tacklers (many NFL corners) and there are those that don't have the heart to even make an attempt. They avoid hits. Bly is one of those. Shoot, I was happy when they traded for Bly. I, personally, would rather see a guy in that position that gets burned on occasion, but at least has the heart to man up and make a tackle.

Thanks for the advice jcbronco..I'll try catching an NFL game sometime...ya see that's exactly the kind of condesending BS I was addressing in stating my commitment to this game that really has been my life. I have never attacked anyones opinion on this board outside of taking shots at R8R_H8R for obvious reasons and anyone suggesting we take a RB in the first round, for obvious reasons. I never disputed anyone backing Bly. Simply the notion, that because I had a differing opinion I didn't understand the game.

BTW I'm pretty sure nobody on here is going to just throw up their place of employment. Kind of a stupid thing to do don't you think?
January 30, 2009

11:33 a.m.

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liesandpropaganda08 writes:

BigRedCelt- You brought up the issue of coaching. Not me. You are getting on here making claims about what you do man. Claims. If you can't talk about what you do, don't bring it up!

What is the big deal about saying you are a coach for a particular team anyway? Don't have to say HEAD COACH....teams have more than one {;^)

Oh yeah....stalkers. Forgot.

I don't care about who you are or what you do....you like the Broncos and that's enough for me. Again, I did not call you out specifically....I was reading the posts and kept seeing this "coach" thing, so I spoke on it. If you are a coach, you should appreciate someone doing this because MANY that claim to be a coach on the internet are liars.
January 30, 2009

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Dynamicdave writes:

liesandpropaganda08, why the stab at my post referring to "stalkers?" If he works for a school, all it takes is one whack job to call and make an anonymous call saying he is doing something immoral, etc.,. Maybe you don't think it will happen but I put nothing past some of the trolls in this site. Chargertom was a whack job. I just called his bluff and made some calls to his alleged employers (Feds). Me, I'm no coach but I will continue to post and give my opinion, whether it be right or wrong. Yes, I, like BigRedCelt, take shots at some posters, because they need it. They come to bash and run, which is their nature. Hell, we all jump on the morons. But, just because I'm not a coach, doesn't mean I can't offer some useful "insight" or opinion to a situation? Coaches don't have the only say on the site. Remember McNabb? Didn't know the rules to OT? Nobody has all the answers which is why I enjoy the blog. Learning something new everyday. I get good info from you, BigRedCelt, Myerda00, RockyMts69 and others.
As I said in my previous post, Celt was correct in not giving his poe. I have actually met a couple of the posters on the blog, who also live here in Las Vegas. We exchanged emails and talk often. We shared some pitchers at the Broncos bar and watched Denver play. There are good people in this world, but I take nothing for granted on the Internet.
January 30, 2009

1:27 p.m.

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liesandpropaganda08 writes:

Dave- I'm sorry that you took offense but I thought the stalker thing was funny.....it is kinda' funny Dave. Not being stalked of course, but the thought of disgruntled Dre Bly supporters/bashers taking it that "extra" step and stalking each other. That's just nuts!....but it CAN happen. I just didn't know this kind of thing could happen when we got the guy from Detroit.

Should we talk about things we can't really "talk" about here? Is this the place? People do those things when they want to give credibility to their argument, and you say we shouldn't challenge this? Don't think so. Again, if you bring up things be prepared to answer the questions that follow...or avoid, your choice. It is too easy to make claims on the computer. We have all crossed or will cross that bridge at some point. I never said anyone was a liar or attacked someone specifically. The calling went out and I expected debate for obvious reasons...I will stand strong on this side. My argument is both reasonable and necessary.

I enjoy reading and responding in this forum....well with exception to the trolls. I learn from most, and look for that "full spectrum" of advice on how to make a team better. We are not all right, but the truth and reason is somewhere in there. It is left to the reader, like always, to discern the truth. Opinions change through debate and eyes can be opened, but we need a sustained debate...not one ended prematurely by making claims. Talk, ask questions...problem is when we make statements giving credibility to our argument AND it is "off limits" and can't be questioned. It shouldn't be brought up in the first place.
January 30, 2009

2:17 p.m.

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bossmancmo writes:

This is like a sports soap opera..hahahah..Very entertaining
January 30, 2009

2:43 p.m.

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Cutler2Marsh writes:

Jcbronco
i agree with u saying we should get Maualuga and Haynesworth but not the part about Raji and peppers. i watched Raji senior bowl and interview but just sumthing about him i dont like he reminds me of robertsons in alot of ways so i would hate getting him Maualuga is a better player and better vaule i know Haynesworth is talking to the titains about a resign so i hope he doesnt resign there if we get him and Maualuga are D is already doing a big turn around.
January 30, 2009

2:57 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

bossmancmo, "Broncos Days of Our Lives".... As The Broncos World Turns"......

liesandpropaganda08, no offense taken. We're always good, bro.
January 30, 2009

4:01 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

Cutler2Marsh, Haynesworth has too many anger issues. Not once, either. Multiple times. Don't need that on the field costing us penalties for unsportsmanlike. I like Peppers. He would be a good fit. But, all this is just our blind "hope." Nobody, including myself, have a clue as to what McDaniels will do or who he has in mind? It's like waiting for the final answer on Jeopardy at the end of the show. Can you hear the music?
January 30, 2009

4:19 p.m.

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Cutler2Marsh writes:

Dynamicdave, I understand that I see your point I was just looking at his ability yeah I saw the play of him stepping on that players head so I agree we don’t need that on the field. I would be happy to have peppers just not Raji not liking that guy. YEAH LOUD and clear the wait is killing.
January 30, 2009

9 p.m.

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6_is_the_new_7 writes:

Broncos FA's Pos Pos
Rank Rating Name Type Yr Ht/Wt College 2008 Team Signed Team
DE NR Ebenezer Ekuban UFA 9 6-3/275 North Carolina Denver
WR NR Darrell Jackson UFA 9 5-11/210 Florida Denver
S NR Marlon McCree UFA 8 5-11/204 Kentucky Denver
C 7 Tom Nalen UFA 15 6-3/286 Boston College Denver
CB NR Karl Paymah UFA 4 5-11/204 Washington State Denver
TE NR Jeb Putzier UFA 7 6-4/259 Boise State Denver
QB NR Patrick Ramsey UFA 8 6-3/225 Tulane Denver
MLB 9 Nate Webster UFA 8 6-0/240 Miami (FL) Denver
January 31, 2009

2:21 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

Kooiman, we already know that Nalen retired. Paymah can pack. Webster can help him and pack his own, as well. D. Jackson, what a waste of money. Ekuban is up and down. McCree, who knows? Really wasn't that impressed with him. Putzier, I liked Jeb. Ramsey, bye bye.
February 2, 2009

10:49 p.m.

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1denfan writes:

first i want you all to excuse my spelling, i might not be able to spell, but i can read. dynamicdave,chris_cross, and mrbong no i dont drink(i know denying is the first sign) and i like champ just as much as you do, but if he is so great why did denver give up more than 400 points the last two seasons granted cutler threw one too many ints. and champ didn't play much last year but im sure some of those 400 points were deep balls which mr. CHAMP should have knocked down or picked off, or maybe even turned on the turbos but didn't. maybe he was the greatest at one time but i don't think he is now and for sure wont be next year, well lets just say he has alot to work on, given the fact that he has proven he once was great. P.S sorry but my opinion has not changed

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McDaniels vows flexibility to make Broncos best they can be

By Jeff Legwold, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)

Published January 28, 2009 at 9:45 p.m.

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