List of Broncos coaching prospects only the first step
By Jeff Legwold, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)
Published January 9, 2009 at 5:38 p.m.
Photo by Darin McGregor © The Rocky
Broncos officials, including owner Pat Bowlen, will meet at 11 a.m. today to discuss which, if any, of seven candidates they have interviewed to replace fired head coach Mike Shanahan are brought in for a second interview. No decisions on that front had been made as of Friday night.
ENGLEWOOD — The Broncos don't need all seven of the coaching prospects they have met with to be magnificent. Just one, really.
There is the rub for the team that fired Mike Shanahan 12 days ago. Because when Pat Bowlen did not renew Dan Reeves' contract after the 1991 season, he tried to get Shanahan from the 49ers. When he didn't, he simply promoted Wade Phillips from within.
And when Bowlen fired Phillips after the 1994 season, he broke out a disguise to meet with the one guy he wanted to coach his football team - Shanahan, again.
But now? Now they have seven candidates they have feted in the attempt to find the guy who can follow the guy they had for 14 seasons and two Super Bowl wins.
But having climbed their first hills in this process, here's what remains on the to-do list after team officials gathered Friday:
The docket
Broncos officials, including Bowlen and chief operating officer Joe Ellis, will meet at 11 a.m. today to discuss which, if any, candidates are brought in for a second interview.
No decisions on that front had been made as of Friday night.
Also at the meeting today, the Broncos could decide not to conduct second interviews with any of the candidates and to make a formal offer to one of them, other than Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo.
Because his team still is playing, by league rules no team can have contact with Spagnuolo this week. The penalty for doing so is a heavy fine.
Clock's ticking
As it always does when the first vacancy is filled in the league, the scrambling begins. And when the Browns formally introduced Eric Mangini as their head coach Thursday, the rush officially was on.
Even the St. Louis Rams, who, to that point, had a somewhat leisurely stroll in their search - only two interviews in nine days - picked up the pace. The worry is, there is only a select number of legitimate head coaching candidates each year and only so many assistants to fill out their staffs.
The Broncos moved quickly to get in front of seven candidates in a week and are expected to bring a select few back, likely as soon as Monday, in the coming days for a second look. Patriots offensive coordinator Josh Mc- Daniels, Cowboys offensive coordinator Jason Garrett, Buccaneers defensive coordinator Raheem Morris and Vikings defense coordinator Leslie Frazier have gotten plenty of support.
To wait or not to wait?
Spagnuolo is one guy, without an Eagles upset this weekend, they might not be able to bring back next week.
He is the only assistant coach the Broncos have interviewed who is with a team still playing this weekend.
If the Giants win Sunday, Spagnuolo remains off- limits to everybody, the Broncos included, until the week after the conference championship games. The risk is, to wait for a coach, others get hired elsewhere during the wait. Then, if for some reason it doesn't work out, a team waited for the guy it didn't get.
The Broncos have given that plenty of thought since Spagnuolo's interview a week ago.
Offense or defense?
In the days immediately after Shanahan's firing, the vibe around the Broncos was they would look to a coach with a defensive background and leave the team's offensive staff in place.
That changed, once the airplane tickets were purchased. The Broncos have interviewed three coaches - McDaniels, Garrett and their own offensive coordinator, Rick Dennison - from the offensive side of the ball, along with four defensive coaches.
That means it's all on the table right now, and when Bowlen said, "I run the show," he meant it.
Change has come, and while Shanahan, on the way out the door, and quarterback Jay Cutler endorsed leaving the team's offensive coaches in place as the new guy runs what was perceived to be a defensive makeover, everyone who remains in the Broncos' Dove Valley complex when the dust clears will be reminded that they work for the owner, while the new head coach is the new head coach.
Making the choice
When scouts look at players, they are always trying to find the balance between how much credence to give to a workout - knowing it will always take a certain level of athleticism to survive in the league - and how much to give to the body of work.
This is where the Broncos are - trying to decide where to put the interview in the whole picture, where it fits alongside someone's body of work.
For example, Morris' personality is electric, as one general manager who knows him put it, and he is on the fast track to be somebody's head coach sooner rather than later. But right now, he's only 32 and was just named a coordinator last month.
Somebody such as Frazier, for example, might not be the glamour pick in some people's eyes, but he obviously was exceedingly well-prepared, having studied the Broncos plenty before he arrived, as did Garrett.
With a guy such as McDaniels, also 32, who teams say interviews very well and certainly has plenty to see on a championship resume, the issue is, he comes from a highly successful, yet also highly technocratic, football society in the Patriots. Players and front-office people who have spent time there have described it as a rather joyless pursuit of trophies.
And two former Bill Belichick assistants were fired this year - Mangini by the Jets and Romeo Crennel by the Browns - while another, Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis, was taking plenty of heat and almost lost his job because of his lack of people skills and a few too many losses.
Bowlen just fired a coach who had not been as communicative on a day- to-day basis as the owner would like, so Bowen is not looking for someone new to close the door on him.
Because after doing the one thing a lot of people thought he never would do - fire Shanahan - and after doing all this to replace him, Bowlen isn't going to be in any hurry to put out the help-wanted sign again any time soon.
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January 9, 2009
7:49 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
Gee, Jeff, thanks for telling us sooo much? We would have never known this if it wasn't for that "insightful" article? We are much more informed, now. I know, slow day at the office, nothing new to report, so why not rehash everything.
January 9, 2009
8:01 p.m.
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JeffLegwold writes:
My task was to tell people where the search process is as of today (Friday). I did that. If you have any specific questions about the search process you would like answered, please contribute a question or two to the weekly Broncos Inbox.
January 9, 2009
8:12 p.m.
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freddyfender writes:
Hey Jeff, thanks. I think dynamic dave is getting a little antsy, as we all are! Thanks for the summary though. It is well written and does give everyone a very good update as to where we are in the process. I stil think we would be very lucky to get Spagnoulo, i hope it happens!
January 9, 2009
8:22 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
It's all good Jeff. No point in asking what's the latest when we all know we have to wait, same as yourself. I actually like your articles (usually). Just a bit of sarcasm. But since you asked, I did think of something. What was Romanoski thinking, asking for an interview for HC? Does he actually think he could pull it off? It just sounds ludicrous. Was he maybe joking around?
January 9, 2009
8:34 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
Meant, Romanowski.
January 9, 2009
8:47 p.m.
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Jeev writes:
Even though Spagnuolo would be the right choice, I have a feeling that Josh McDaniels will be the next head coach of the Broncos. The Giants being involved in the playoffs, really hurts Spags chances of ending up in Denver.
January 9, 2009
8:48 p.m.
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6_is_the_new_7 writes:
Wow! The writer answered a comment! Maybe you could answer mine. Why aren't the Broncos looking to replace the GM before the coach? Shouldn't there be some compatability between the two? Also, shouldn't he have a say in who the coach is going to be?
January 9, 2009
8:58 p.m.
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JeffLegwold writes:
Keep checking, however, we continue to talk to people to separate the rumors from the rest right now. Thanks.
January 9, 2009
9 p.m.
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curoma writes:
I got that one Jeff.
If you actually paid attention, you would KNOW that Pat Bowlen, maybe you heard of him. Owner of the Denver Bronco's. Anyway.
This guy Pat, see, HE believes that THE HEAD COACH is the FIRST position to fill.
That's it!
That's all you need to know for that question.
Wasn't that enlightening.
I know, it's hard to think that this guy, the OWNER of the Denver Bronco's doesn't agree with YOUR priorities, but, well, some guys just don't have that kind of respect...
January 9, 2009
9:37 p.m.
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IAbronco writes:
I think it will be soon when we find out who is picked. I still fail to beleive that there was no prior plan about this.
January 9, 2009
9:39 p.m.
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jvill writes:
Huh? The writer is just giving a summary update. And he's not claiming to know more than the owner.
I found the article helpful -- I don't have enough time to read every single post like some people, so this was a good read.
January 9, 2009
9:45 p.m.
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Robfromaurora writes:
Jeff, That was the most unique way of describing what the Patriots do and have done. "A joyless pursuit of trophys" I see it this way...The Patriots are in the business of winning superbowls, which is the one thing I believe Bowlen wants most. I would be love it if the Broncos and the system were described as such. If they want joy, play golf during the off season. PLEASE give me a franchise with a "joyless pursuit of trophys" if the result is what the Patriots have done.
January 9, 2009
10:08 p.m.
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Jared0709 writes:
I think its easier to be an aggresive play caller offensively as typically it doesn't cost your team points. However defensively it takes experience and courage to take chances and attack the way some defenses in the NFL do. That is why I'm really pulling for a defensive coordinator for head coach. I'm only for this change if it changes our culture, and I just can't see that coming from Garrett or McDaniels.
January 9, 2009
10:11 p.m.
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Mark13 writes:
Uh, I think Jeff was relating comments from Patriots players and front office people genius.
And since when did the Broncos and Bowlen ever have anything in mind other than winning Superbowls?
January 9, 2009
10:11 p.m.
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Jared0709 writes:
So I guess I need to pull for the Eagles to win so Spags has a chance! Question is although Denver can't interview him for a while, could they offer him the job?
January 9, 2009
10:25 p.m.
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avsfan71085 writes:
No jared. They already interviewed spags last Saturday, because the Giants had the bye week they were allowed too. But they won't be able to formally offer him a job or interview him again until the Giants lose, or after the conference championship games.
January 9, 2009
10:27 p.m.
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jmdeshazer writes:
"Pat Bowlen did not renew Dan Reeves’ contract after the 1991 season, he tried to get Shanahan from the 49ers. When he didn’t he simply promoted Wade Phillips from within."
Am I the only one that caught this? I highly doubt Bowlen would have fired Reeves after a season where they went to the AFC title game with a 12-4 regular season record. Reeves was fired after the lackluster 8-8 no playoff season in 1992.
Wade Phillips was defensive coordinator, and Shanahan was Offensive coordinator/QB coach on Reeve's staff in 1992. Having Shanny go to the Niners was the best move he could have made. He took his experience there with him to the Broncos and immediately made them better than he could have had they hired him 2 years before.
January 9, 2009
10:29 p.m.
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liesandpropaganda08 writes:
Legwold- If that's really you answering back, you have just earned the respect of many in Bronco Nation. Reading between the lines here, is it not fair to assume that hearing nothing by Saturday night means it's probably Spags?
January 9, 2009
11:09 p.m.
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Torch34 writes:
I like the Spags choice, and I have a feeling Spags will be available to field the offer after the weekend. I think if he's not the choice, they have to go defensive minded. As for Romo, that idiot has been hit on the head to many times, or ate too many paint chips as a young buck.
January 9, 2009
11:31 p.m.
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1960DB writes:
I did catch that jmdeshazer although Reeves was on his way our or Elway was and we know the history of that.
Thanks Jeff for responding to the comments albeit insolent and classless comments. You show a lot of class by responding to crass detractors. Keep the news coming. I hope we hire Spagnuolo.
January 10, 2009
12:37 a.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
1960DB, I already apologized to him so get over yourself.
January 10, 2009
2:11 a.m.
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ORBroncoFan53 writes:
Who knows who our coach will be, would any of us bet the farm on what Bowlen is thinking? I have heard a different media member each day say they have credible info on who is going to be the next coach when the real truth is I bet Bowlen still doesn't know. Thursday it was McDaniels with Capers as his defensive coordinator, Friday it was Frazier(Klis the Denver post ) who knows about today. One thing that can't be argued about these guys is that none have been Head Coaches so they all are a HUGE GAMBLE.I know people refer to out of work Head Coaches as retreads but I do wish we could of at least talked to a few, mainly Cowher to see what he had to say?All we can do is hope for the best until we get the news.I can only speak for myself but I think I would rather see The Denver Broncos hire Bill Cowher flash across the bottom of the screen on ESPN than any of these guys we are talking to.
January 10, 2009
5:51 a.m.
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bronco4428 writes:
anybody but spags gets hired we are in for a looooooong 5 years....it will be a complete nightmare
January 10, 2009
8:54 a.m.
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cdmdenver writes:
BOWLEN needs to learn from successful Teams...
There are Many NFL (owner's) that seem to win
every year. Including Kraft-NE, Bud Adams Titans,
and even Davis-Raiders who have been losing lately,
but are Always feared!
These owners have a winning philosphy, they should
be copied, and their methods copied (why re-invent
the wheel?). Bowlen has been an owner too long not
to start studying other successful owners!!
Come on Bowlen, what what Kraft, Adams or David
do with this Bronco team? Head coach-coaching staff...
January 10, 2009
9:11 a.m.
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awhite411 writes:
You guys must remember that Spags "stock" would not be as high as it is if it were not for a awesome catch by David Tyree, the Giants WR, in the last superbowl. He may had just been another Brady casulty if it were not for that one catch! I do believe he did some great coaching this year, and welcome him as HC, but he is an East Coast guy, and the question remains that he will want to come to the middle of the country?
J.R.
Jupiter, Fl
January 10, 2009
9:20 a.m.
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JaredWilsonPhotography writes:
cdmdenver - You want Bowlen to ask himself 'what would Al Davis do?' and then do it? I think milk just came out my nose...
January 10, 2009
9:25 a.m.
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BMat writes:
JeffLegwold writes:
My task was to tell people where the search process is as of today (Friday). I did that. If you have any specific questions about the search process you would like answered, please contribute a question or two to the weekly Broncos Inbox.
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Jeff you gotta stay above the fray dude. Don't get trapped into making chippy comments on a message board following one of your own articles. You gotta be better than that.
It makes you seem narcissitic since you read these posts. It makes you seem insecure when you post a response to clarify what you already wrote. If the article stood on it's own merits then your follow up is not neccessary.
This paper is broke so we know you're looking for work anyway. This doesn't help. Have a nice day.
January 10, 2009
9:33 a.m.
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baylinorcrush writes:
I don't buy into the "if we wait too long to pick a head coach we loose". They are still defensive coaches in the playoffs I would love to have here as head coach. Nobody seems to care, but what about the Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Tennesse, Philadelphia and even Carolina defensive coaches, now that's plenty enough options not to freak out over Spags not working out so we should quickly hire someone! That's ludicrous. In this case patience is a virtue.
January 10, 2009
9:40 a.m.
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Jared0709 writes:
Irregardless of the catch, Spags d held the record breaking NE offense to 14 points. I'm not sure he is the right choice, but I think Spags, Frazier and even possibly Morris are the direction I'm most excited to go.
Avsfan, thanks for the info. I know we interviewed him, but I wasn't sure if the "protection" period, while not allowing follow up interviews, also denied Bowlen the chance to offer the job if he so chose.
January 10, 2009
10:29 a.m.
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dilligaf writes:
cdmdenver
Are you kidding me? The owners you just mentioned you ought to look up Bowlen winning record to theirs. Sure as of late it isn't a very good one. But look at the number of Bowlen's playoff and SB appearances to theirs. Bowlen is probably one of the most winningest owners in the league. I believe the man has put 5 teams in the SB. It takes a very good owner to fire a close friend and coach that has 3 SB wins. 2 as a HC & 1 as an asst.
January 10, 2009
11:10 a.m.
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cdmdenver writes:
Dilligaf:
You sound like you might be Rick Dennison,
What have they done lately? Are you kidding me??
January 10, 2009
11:29 a.m.
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OrangeCrusher writes:
I think it speaks volumes that Bowlen promtly flew to NY to meet with Spags first. He is obviously Pat's first choice. McDaniels is second choice and the rest were just a means to measure these two guys up to. We may have to wait untill after the SB to find out who our new HC is.
January 10, 2009
11:37 a.m.
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cdomis writes:
It is good to see Bowlen back in charge of the team. Some of Shanny's drafts were really poor (taking Ashley Lelie over Ed Reed).
Where do you think they will go as far as a GM is concerned?
January 10, 2009
11:45 a.m.
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broncophanman writes:
I think the Broncos need to wait around for Spags. I don't like any of the other options. They shouldn't even be thinking about offensive guys. And the other defensive guys are all too inexperienced and young. They should just wait around and take their chances that Spags wants to be the Broncos coach.
January 10, 2009
12:22 p.m.
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OrangeCrusher writes:
broncophanman.......I with ya..Lets wait it out for Spags. If only there were some way he could let Bowlen know sooner. I hope Pat doesn't get antsy and commit to someone else before Spags can choose. I heard he only interviewed with Denver and the Jets. I think he will chose between one of the two. I hope we can offer him enough $?
January 10, 2009
12:32 p.m.
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bassman writes:
Go Eagles-I'd like to see Spags in here ASAP. GM can wait a little bit longer but it'll be difficult to wait until after the Super Bowl to get Spags.
January 10, 2009
12:33 p.m.
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OrangeCrusher writes:
Mike Shanahan.. if you read this by some chance. Please, take a coaching job in the NFL this year so we old time Bronco fans can afford to pay for a qualified new coach. You will always be a Bronco in your heart and I hope you don't hold a grudge against us.
January 10, 2009
12:41 p.m.
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liesandpropaganda08 writes:
ESPN reported this morning that our coaching search is down to two men AND Pat Bowlen made a second trip earlier this week to speak with McDaniels again. I think it was NFL Primetime.....the one w/ Berman, Ditka, Meshawn, and T. Jackson.
I think it will be Spags.
BMat- Legwold made his comments AND requested that one of our "TRUE FANS" contribute questions to the "inbox". What a concept.....ask some of those that "REALLY CARE" to ask questions that can be answered in another forum. I think he is making an offer for real fans to challenge him with their questions, which will ultimately improve the inbox.
BTW, analyze your posts first dude. All you do is complain, yet you keep coming back.
WHAT does that say about you Sigmund?
January 10, 2009
12:46 p.m.
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OrangeCrusher writes:
I vote for John Elway to be GM!...What do they do anyway? we already have a team of people to choose tallent and with the direction of a good HC I think Elway would be a great figurehead, add some needed identity back to the broncos. He's been training for this position with his IFL team. Now it's time to get back to the big time John...
OBW his father was a great tallent evaluator and I think John had some say on who was brought to the team while he was there?
January 10, 2009
12:49 p.m.
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liesandpropaganda08 writes:
cdomis- Okay, you are aware that BOWLEN wanted Lelie, right? Another case of dogpile on Shanny......but you got the wrong guy this time. You better let Bowlen up before he calls the police.
BTW, I am sure you jumped off your couch kicking and screaming when we didn't draft Ed Reed. Gee, wonder why he wasn't drafted first overall?
Who should we pick this year cdomis?
January 10, 2009
12:51 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
liesandpropaganda08, yeah, I sent Jeff an email and apologized. I was being sarcastic and shouldn't have been. I know the Broncos are in a holding pattern and it wasn't Jeff's fault. I should save my sarcasm for someone who deserves it, like Bernie. Problem I came across, however, I see that he posts questions to the inbox but I can't seem to find the link to post a personal question of my own? I have to ask it on the blog, instead? Should I just shoot him an email to ask a question? I'm not clear on that procedure? I usually just post like I'm doing now.
January 10, 2009
1:09 p.m.
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liesandpropaganda08 writes:
Dynamicdave- Send him an email. I have never contributed a question, but it seems to me that this guy is reaching out Dave. I don't think there was anything in your post that warrants an apology, but you are obviously a bigger man than most. Keep in mind also that some of these people can't think for themselves, so they pile on. Don't give those people the time of day.
All we can do is keep fighting with truth.
January 10, 2009
1:12 p.m.
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MTBroncofan writes:
Nice article Jeff. I enjoyed reading it...
I check this website several times a day everyday, impatiently waiting for something to happen.
Like most others, I hope Spags gets this job although I still have this gut feeling that Raheem Morris would also take the Broncos to the next level. I love his energy. We need a coach that energizes and electrifies this team! So what if he's young and not as experienced as some others...he is head coach material. Depending on how far the Giants go in the playoffs and how many other coaching prospects are gobbled up by other teams, the Broncos might be well served to get someone other than Spags... I hear that Spags is kind of an east coast guy anyways and may not be all that interested in coming to Denver.
January 10, 2009
1:25 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
liesandpropaganda08, hell, I'll just ask it (again), here. The article we read about Romanowski, asking for an interview at HC. Do you think he was just kind of "joking"? I mean, can he REALLY, be THAT brain dead, to think he was qualified? I could see him as an assistant to the defensive line coach, but nothing else. But I just find it hard to think he was serious?
January 10, 2009
1:27 p.m.
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cdomis writes:
Taylor Mays. And yes i was jumping off my couch screaming "Ed Reed" after we failed to trade up to get Phil Buchanon. (thankfully)
I also would not have traded back to take Deltha "no deal" O'Neal.
If we stayed where we were, we could have gotten Brian Urlacher.
I bleed orange and blue. I was following the broncos when Haven Moses was catching touchdown passes from Craig Morton, and Randy Gradishar was racking up 140 tackles a year
January 10, 2009
1:50 p.m.
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liesandpropaganda08 writes:
cdomis- I give you all due respect. You made your pick AND admitted you wanted Buchanon. All due repect. There is no shortage of Shanny bashers that come here and post yet will not own their choices. You did, and if you have read any of my posts then you know I am not shy about admitting my mistakes.
SO, I guess you watched ALOT of Ed Reed. I could see he had talent, but not like he has shown in the NFL and apparently I wasn't alone. You seem to have a "knack" (minus the Buchanon pick) for making "prophetic" defensive secondary draft picks, so what, specifically, do you see in Taylor Mays game that leads you to believe that he will "pan out". 5 years down the road, how will he compare to Reed? Reed's smarts....DNA or coaching? Reed has thrived because of his ability to improv and go where he thinks he should be.....he couldn't do much of that in college. Will Mays have this ability, and who do you think we should choose as DC?
January 10, 2009
1:54 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
cdomis, as far as D, we have a good core but need some major "tweaking." They need to keep Champ, Winborn, Larsen, Barrett, DJ, Jack Williams, Dumervil, maybe Bly, depending on how the new coach uses him. Scrap the rest. We have a #12 pick in the draft. I think they need to try to get Rey Mualuga (LB) from USC. We have 10 picks in the draft: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 5th, 6th, 6th, 7th, 7th. Give up two later round picks for another 1st rounder and go after a Safety. Go after either Taylor Mays, (S) USC (Jr.) or try to get Myron Rolle, (S) Fla. State. Then in the 2nd round, get a DE to compliment Dumervill. Get another LB in the 3rd. Free agency is also still an option. Julius Peppers will be a FA. Many choices to be made but I think it would be wise to trade a couple of late round picks and if necessary, a future round pick for another 1st round pick.
January 10, 2009
1:58 p.m.
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Broncostimein09 writes:
what is the deal? why haven't we set up an interview with rex ryan yet? You can say what you want about him but we need a defensive minded head coach so why not get the best one out there I mean we do have the best coaching job available out of all the teams looking for one. Why are we interviewing a freakin cornerback coach instead of the best defensive coord. in the league. I dont care about who his father or brother is or how good a job they've done. They aren't running a defense that no team in the league can figure out how to score on(other than the colts) but he is. GO GET RYAN!! and keep our offensive coord.
January 10, 2009
1:59 p.m.
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cdomis writes:
Mays reminds me of Smith and Atwater. He is not the playmaker that Ed Reed is but he brings the wood. That hit he put on in the bowl game was priceless.
I followed Ed's career because I am a fan of the U. I also followed Portis and McGahee and Ray-Ray. Not to mention DJ.
January 10, 2009
2 p.m.
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Cutler6 writes:
Sorry all everything seems to be pointing to Josh McDaniels. I believe Spags will go to the Jets. I am not totally happy with McDaniels if it is him, however the DC for the broncos is not only as important probably more important a hire for the broncs.
January 10, 2009
2:04 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
Cutler6, kind of looks like McDaniels is the choice. My concern will be the DC. Will Bowlen ask one of the interviewed coaches to consider a DC position, instead? That would seem to me, to be a "slap in the face"? So who would they ask to take on that role? Capers?
January 10, 2009
2:11 p.m.
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R8R_H8R writes:
Bowlen is NOT looking for a new General Manager. He has 3 men in place (forget their names) who did a GREAT job in charge of the 2006 and 2008 draft. They were not in charge of the 2007 draft. And it stunk
Spags is really being over-hyped. It's ridiculous.
The Titans and Ravens Defenses, by the numbers, pass yds against, rush yds. against, pts. against, are better. For the life of me i do not understand why they aren't talking to those guys, and NOT the little boys (too young) in New England and Tampa Bay.
January 10, 2009
2:18 p.m.
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cdomis writes:
lies and propaganda... i am not trying to bash Shanny, he helped us win two super bowls. when I first heard the news of his firing I was p!ssed.
Sometimes relationships grow stale. It was time to move on. BTW, Ashley Lelie was drafted out of Hawaii because June Jones (former broncos coach) recommended him to Shanny.
six five with four three speed. very tempting. but lets not forget about taking Marcus Nash, Willie Middlebrooks...trading up for Jarvis Moss when we could have traded Cleveland the pick because they were so in love with Brady Quinn, and gotten a future first rounder
January 10, 2009
2:39 p.m.
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castortroy33 writes:
thanks for nothing June Jones. I could have watched Ed Reed pick off Big Ben 3 times in the afc title game. We would have beaten Seattle and Shanny would still have his job. But than we wouldn't have jay cut. This talk of Elway is making me sick. John was great but cmon man..get over him. New chapter happend a long time ago and all the fans think we need to stay on page sb 33.
January 10, 2009
2:43 p.m.
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liesandpropaganda08 writes:
Free agency is the key to winning now.......another draft like last year is the key to winning Championships.
The D-line and the Safety positions need to be addressed in FA and via trade. The MLB position (if we stay in the 4-3) is critical and "seems to be" the best choice at #12. If we go 3-4, we have too many LB's and desperately need a big NT and help on the ends (which is what we need now anyway).
4-3 Defense MLB
3-4 Defense Safety
As for who, any opinion I give would be "echoing" an argument I heard somewhere else. For what it's worth, eventually I will listen to enough "opinions" on various players and come up with a perceived judgement of my own and make a choice. Not there yet, but I will post and stand behind my picks.
Go Bronco Nation,
Go Broncos!
January 10, 2009
2:50 p.m.
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liesandpropaganda08 writes:
cdomis- I apologize for the sarcasm.......look into the "whole" story on Lelie.
Bowlen wanted Lelie.
January 10, 2009
3:19 p.m.
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cdomis writes:
no disrespect taken, lies and propaganda.
I want the same thing that you do, which is the Broncos winning another Super Bowl.
I have loved this team since I was seven years old...which, incidentally, was a long time ago.
January 10, 2009
4:33 p.m.
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liesandpropaganda08 writes:
Yeah, it's been awhile since I had my fun on a BMX bike with friends that were up to no good. Endless summer days and nights move out and they take our hair with them......I think Richard Dreyfuss probably expresses those thoughts the best at the end of Stand By Me.
I really miss those days. I get to see my kids have them now and it brings a joy to my heart I never new existed.
Funny how fast it goes. Don't blink!
January 10, 2009
4:44 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
cdomis, ha, ha. Not THAT old. I Was a Broncos fan during the days of Charley Johnson. John Ralston was HC. I assume by your earlier post, that you're about 40-43? I'm 50 now and hope to be watching them for another 50. If there is no football in Heaven, then I don't want to go... (JK)...
January 10, 2009
4:50 p.m.
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cdomis writes:
dynamic dave. love the comment. I am a virgin blogger so i do not know the landscape.
i will keep rooting for the broncos no matter where i end up.
January 10, 2009
5:13 p.m.
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liesandpropaganda08 writes:
cdomis- I am still pretty new to this myself.
Welcome home.
January 10, 2009
5:17 p.m.
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FTR writes:
DD and Jeff
Sounds like we are all getting a little ants in or pants!!! Bronco Nation will eat up any information, speculation and yes even talk about Romo (the pill box boy) anything to keep us ocupied reading something. Thanks for the update Jeff. DD do you think if Giants win we should wait and on him or make a choice with what we have?
GO BRONCOS!!!
FTR
January 10, 2009
5:22 p.m.
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FTR writes:
DD
I turned 50 on the 8th!! Did you ever sneak into Lakeside amusment park on sunday nights to watch the races? I grew up on 38th and Federal. Used to sneak into Mile High also. Rough Hood now!
FTR
January 10, 2009
5:46 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
FTR, no, never snuck into anything in Denver. I lived in Colorado Springs. I, myself, want Spags, but hard to tell what Bowlen wants? I would wait. "IF" he waits, it tells me that Spags is his guy. Another article mentioned he did a 2nd interview with McDaniels. They also said they want to sit back and maybe interview a couple of new candidates. It tells me that he is still interested in Spags and is buying time. It will be either Spags or McDaniels. After tomorrow's game, we may know more. If giants win, we may have to wait. If we wait, it's a sign that he wants Spags. If the Giants lose, the decision will be made within 2-4 days, I think.
January 10, 2009
5:48 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
FTR, oh, and Happy Birthday for the 8th. .... Old man, ha, ha.
January 10, 2009
8:31 p.m.
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FTR writes:
DD
Old man like your self-ha. I sat through the Snow Bowl vs Green Bay when we scored 14 points in less then 2 minutes to start the game in a blizzard! My cap had a inch of snow on it! If I remember right it was Steve Foley and then Tom Jackson recovering fumbles both for TD's. I also lived in Colorado Springs at the time and had to wait a day for the hill to open before driving home to the springs. When you live in north Denver in your youth you have to sneak into everything-HA.
Thanks for the b-day wish. I agree its a wait and see what happens! Sprags is also my pick. McDaniels would be my number 2 pick also. Who would you think McDaniels might try to pick as DC?
FTR
January 10, 2009
9:03 p.m.
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granolaMUNCHINGtreehugger writes:
Its about time that the broncos quit spending money on free agents. They never pan out. Champ has not lived up to the hype. Yes he has had moments, but was it just me, or did the defense seem better when he was out? Im a longtime fan, and sick of Denvers soft defense. Im sure Cherry Creek High could score on them! Bring back the Orange Crush DAYZ!!!
January 10, 2009
9:39 p.m.
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6_is_the_new_7 writes:
cdmdenver - You want Bowlen to ask himself 'what would Al Davis do?' and then do it? I think milk just came out my nose... Now that's funny right there. I don't care who you are.
January 10, 2009
10:10 p.m.
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6_is_the_new_7 writes:
South Denver myself, Englewood area. Happy belated birthday FTR. Mine's the 24th. Turn 45. Sorry if I butt in where I wasn't wanted.
January 10, 2009
10:16 p.m.
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granolaMUNCHINGtreehugger writes:
I remember when John Ralston built the first Super Bowl team only to fired, and Red Miller got the glory. I dont care who they hire aslong as its defense oriented coach. If the other team cant score,they cant win!
January 10, 2009
10:37 p.m.
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BroncoRick69 writes:
You mean a defensive -minded coach like Tony Dungy? Look at what that has done for the Colts. Their D has consistently been laughable at best. I understand the desire for a defensive minded coach, but really what we need is a quality coach that will bring in the right people to coach our D.
January 10, 2009
10:37 p.m.
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6_is_the_new_7 writes:
We need to create a defense that can bring us back to the team we once were(Orange Crush). To me that was built around good safties. Thompson, Smith, and Atwater. We need someone comparible to Reed, Sanders, or Polamalu. We also need to get some pressure by the line so we can get some damn takeaways.
January 10, 2009
10:57 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
FTR, yeah, I've gone to Denver for a couple of games but we went in 4 wheel drives with chains and always made it back. We went to Mr. Lucky's, one time, and we had to stay in Denver for the night (no 4 wheel drive, that night). We had a friend up their and crashed his house at 2am in the morning. He really loved being woke up.
Kooiman, not intruding. Like Ted Nugent sang, "It's a Free For All."
BroncoRick69, I understand what you mean. As long as the D coordinator is good, the D will get better. The HC has to know something about it, though. Shanahan wasn't too keen with it.
January 10, 2009
11:27 p.m.
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6_is_the_new_7 writes:
Here's a thought. We wait 'till K.C. hires Pioli and he fires Herm Edwards, then we hire him as coach as long as he's willing to keep Bates, Turner, Dennison, and the other coaches who should stay. He would be a good fit.
January 11, 2009
12:09 a.m.
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cdomis writes:
How about we get positive, and try to figure out how to take this team to a championship?
Being negative is easy.
How about we try to figure out how to fix this?
No doubt..nobody has to listen, but I would think that suggestions are welcome.
What do you think Jeff?
January 11, 2009
11:17 a.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
cdomis, huh? Suggestions "were" made? Everyone wants Spags. If not, McDaniels. If it is McDaniels, there was rumors that Capers would be the D coach. All speculation. Because no coach has been picked, talking about how to make Denver better, at this point, is moot. We already talked about what we think they need. Now it's just a matter of waiting for them to pick someone. Then we'll have more to work with. Me, I'm always positive.
January 11, 2009
3:32 p.m.
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6_is_the_new_7 writes:
Me too! I'm positive we're going to be better team no matter who they hire. The reason is, I feel the star players were somewhat lackadaisical under Shanahan. The bench played better when they were in. The intensity level of the whole team has to stepped up a notch.