Search for Broncos head coach in full gear

Three interviews get set up; feelers are out across country

By Jeff Legwold, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)

Published January 1, 2009 at 1:47 p.m.

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Poll

Will Mike Shanahan coach in the NFL next season?

The list

The Broncos have started to reach out to several candidates for their coaching job.

In play

* Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo. Will interview Saturday in the New York area.

* Buccaneers defensive coordinator Raheem Morris. Will interview Monday.

* Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels. The Broncos will interview him this weekend after getting permission to speak with him from the Patriots on Thursday.

Under consideration

* Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops. The Broncos have reached out to his representatives.

* Vikings defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier.

On the radar

* Titans defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz. The team has the top AFC seed in playoffs.

* Ravens defensive coordinator Rex Ryan. Team plays Sunday in Miami.

Rules are rules

The Broncos, like every team searching for a coach, face some deadlines for interviewing assistant coaches from playoff teams.

* For teams that have a playoff bye this week, assistant coaches can be interviewed by Sunday for coaching positions.

* The next window to interview assistants from teams that advance to the Super Bowl comes in the week immediately after the conference championships. Those assistants can be interviewed in their home cities.

* Coaches with teams that are knocked out of the playoffs can interview for new jobs once their team loses.

* Coaches with teams that didn't make the playoffs can interview at any time.

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January 1, 2009

2:18 p.m.

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MrWright writes:

STOOPS!! NO WAY!!!.....The other two are great options!! Love it!!!! GO BRONCOS
January 1, 2009

2:25 p.m.

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Cutler6 writes:

I agree NO STOOPS, others are great
January 1, 2009

2:46 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

No, to Stoops. College coaches have always had difficulty making the transition from college to pro. Spagnuolo sounds like the best bet, mentioned so far. Giants have a solid D. Denver could use his guidance. Truthfully, what coach "wouldn't" want to coach for a team like the Broncos? The offense is there. The D is what needs major "tweaking". Spagnuolo would be getting a team that is halfway there, already. With his defensive knowledge, Denver could be a real force for years to come.
January 1, 2009

3:01 p.m.

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tomk writes:

I know that fellow bloggers such as XXX believe that Scotsmen cannot understand American football. Look at my blogs and you might change your minds. I am 61 years old and have supported the Broncos for well over 20 years back into Reeves's time as head coach. I need a little help with the names that are being banded about as replacements for the Shanahan team. What are their strengths and weaknesses? I have emphasised the blindingly obvious that we need a coach that can build a mean defense and find a decent, reliable (especially being fit to play week in week out - he doesn't have to be brilliant but reliable for many plays with a few yards most times).Given this, what do you think? I believe it will not take years to turn things around if we have the right people in the right places. I would appreciate your comments. Happy New Year to you all.
January 1, 2009

3:18 p.m.

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ORBroncoFan53 writes:

Why not Stoops, at least he has a resume.What has Raheem Morris ever done.He has one year as a defensive coordinator at Kansas State,a short time as special teams coach/db's coach at Cornell and has spent some time as a db's coach at Tampa Bay.I understand he has signed to take over as defensive coordinator at Tampa Bay but how many coaches are ready to lead an NFL team at 32 years of age. Spagnuola has at least one a Super Bowl at defensive coordinator and is a little older.
January 1, 2009

3:23 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

tomk, Happy New Year and welcome to the blog. Don't mind "xxx". I hope they get Spagnuolo. He is a great fit. Denfensive minded and it's been made clear that the offense will remain intact and still use the same scheme. If it's not broke, don't fix it. The head coach will get the job done, if the right man is picked. It won't take as long for the team to put it together, either. I feel we will be in the hunt again in 09.
January 1, 2009

3:23 p.m.

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rowdy1 writes:

no on the okie!
January 1, 2009

3:40 p.m.

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cruz3d writes:

ORBroncoFan53:

I can understand your concern over Morris' age and experience. But what had Tomlin done before becoming the Steelers coach? Or Harbaugh in Baltimore? A number of GMs in the league look at Morris as an up and comer and I look at him or Spagnuolo as viable candidates.

A poster on ESPN that lives in Tampa says Morris is a Tomlin clone with his enthusiasm and energy and style; that's the fuel the team needs.
January 1, 2009

3:41 p.m.

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DisplacedColoradoan writes:

IMHO, Spagnuolo would be a major land for the Broncos. He wanted the Jets position, but I think the Broncos could convince him that the Broncos organization has much more talent and promise ahead of it than the Jets. The Jets would will require at least another season of rebuilding before they're competitive in the AFC east.

I think recent history has shown that the NFL coaches are much better coaching college teams than the other way around.
January 1, 2009

3:51 p.m.

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avsfan71085 writes:

Steve Spagnuolo is a good option from what I have heard, but what's so wrong with Stoops? He is a very good coach
January 1, 2009

4:03 p.m.

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Cutler6 writes:

All, those that ask what is wrong with Stoops, apparently haven't followed the track record of pure college coaches who jump to the NFL, it is absolutely horrible. I for one am not interested in taking the chance based on the past that Stoops may be the expection rather than the rule. I say make Spagnuolo head coach and maybe Morris as DC
January 1, 2009

4:03 p.m.

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ORBroncoFan53 writes:

cruz3d, I guess thats true about Tomlin being young also ,but he was a defensive coordinator for the Vikings(1 year) . Iguess it's all just splitting hairs comparing those two, although Tomlin did have quite a bit more college coaching experience as a defensive cooridinator.Who knows he is probably a great coach I guess I just don't know enough about him.Another guy I think might be a good fit would be Kyle Whittingham from Utah he has been a defensive coordinator for I think 10 years for thr Utes before he took over for Myer when he left for the Florida job.I know they may lose big to Alabama but he has done a heck of a job considering the talent he has to choose from.
January 1, 2009

4:05 p.m.

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MrYeahBut writes:

I definitely think that Spag is an interesting option.

I am impressed by the high level of defensive perfromance he's maintained despite losing numerous high-profile players.

I do think that we should be weary of overcompensating for years of offensive emphasis by swinging too far the other way.
January 1, 2009

4:14 p.m.

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nmbronco1 writes:

All of the 3 mentioned have really good upsides. Spagnuolo may have the most in the way of NFL experience, Morris doe have the resume of an "up-and-comer", and Bob Stoops does know how to put out a winning team. All the armchair experts here forget about one Jimmy Johnson who went straight from the U of Miami to a rebuilding project in Dallas and won Super Bowls within a few years. Oklahoma as a team could probably whip a couple of NFL teams right now. I'm just glad the headlines weren't Schottenheimer or Cowher(d). Having tone of those guys coach the Broncos would be like the Cowboys signing TO after he had dissed the star on their field a few years earlier.
January 1, 2009

4:17 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

MrYeahBut, that won't be a problem (overcompensating). Our offense is set. The D needs major retooling. ST's needs to be redone. Prater stunk it up. Defensive minded head coach is a must. Keep Bates and Dennison on offense.
January 1, 2009

4:19 p.m.

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MarcoPolo writes:

Chan Gailey.
January 1, 2009

4:21 p.m.

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T1anda writes:

OMG Bowlen PUHLEEEZE NO college coaches!!! Call the Atlanta Falcons they'll give you a few good, up-to date, reasons why you should shy away from college coaches!
January 1, 2009

4:31 p.m.

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T1anda writes:

Tomk...go to NFL.com Adam Scheftner has an article on who the Broncs might be looking at as a candidate for head coach. Also Yahoo,SI.com,CBS sports these sites can keep you up to date and are very informative.
January 1, 2009

4:47 p.m.

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incognitoboy writes:

marco polo...... are you blind?

he already had a stint as an assistant with the broncos back in the day, thank you very much. since then, he has bounced around more than a basketball and done nothing worth another look as head coach. (dallas cowboys 98-99 anybody?)

is anybody really interested in a guy coming from KC off.coord. position to lead our struggling defense out of the abyss? not me.

if you're going to reach THAT far, might as well try dennis green again (*gag*....*choke*....!!)

spagnuolo needs to be a priority. i hope they can WOW him this weekend. and vice-versa.
January 1, 2009

4:52 p.m.

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Bigg_Nuggets writes:

Spag or bust. I think he is the perfect fit because he has NFL experience and is a great defensive coach, but he will not demand total control and would probably be willing to retain Bates who makes Cutler comfortable. What about GM's? Is Elway a possibillity? I need some info. I live in Canada now and getting info can be tough.
January 1, 2009

4:56 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

incognitoboy, tell it like it is. MarcoPolo needs to rethink his football knowledge. Of course he isn't a Broncos fan so would we really trust his input, anyways? I think not. Chan Gailey??? At Pittsburgh, under his offensive mind, they were 2nd in rushing but they were 27TH in passing! Is that what Denver wants, MarcoPolo? Again, I think not.
January 1, 2009

5 p.m.

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tom3565 writes:

If anyone has insight to what goes on inside the Broncos headquarters it is Schefter, he is usually dead on. If the real reason that you got rid of Shanahan was the defense, than you better damn well bring in a stud defensive coach. Otherwise you sacrificed the offensive side with nothing gained at all, and if that is the case then you fired a good coach to be worse than we already are. There is alot riding on this decision in relation to how good the Broncos can be during the next 5 to 10 years, please don't screw this up!!
January 1, 2009

5:02 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

Bigg_Nuggets, you, like myself, have a computer (not meaning that in a sarcastic way). I also don't live in Colorado., so I don't hear radio talk. Just plug into the RMN as we all do and that would be your best bet. Or ESPN.com or NFL.com. Updates happen often and quickly, so you have to check in, regularly.
January 1, 2009

5:03 p.m.

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Mark13 writes:

All these guys sound like a step down from Shanahan to me. Romeo Cranell was the big deal when he became coach of the Browns. That worked out really well. How about fatso at Norte Dame? He was the hot commodity a few years ago. He's real good isn't he? Unproven all, and all a shot in the dark. Great.
January 1, 2009

5:09 p.m.

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RockyMts69 writes:

I like Stoops, but not as an NFL head coach. College coaches coming into the ranks of the NFL have a POOR success rate.

Bobby Petrino...failed, Dennis Ericson...failed, Nick Sabin...failed, Steve Spurrier...failed. Do I need to say more?

And besides, Stoops and OU lost to Boise St. in the Fiesta Bowl, remember? (And by no means am I knocking Boise St.!)
January 1, 2009

5:33 p.m.

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terryr55 writes:

Spagnuolo should be priority number one! Everyone thought he was a shoo-in for the Jets job...but that was before this happened!! The Bronco organization is still regarded as one of the best (even with this fiasco) and he has a lot more to work with here to win right away. I think he'd have a lot more input here, even with a "personnel committee", than he would with the Jets.
January 1, 2009

5:34 p.m.

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Winthrop writes:

Raheem Morris!

Must be good at holding the clipboard!
January 1, 2009

5:37 p.m.

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Jubei writes:

GO GET SPAGNUOLO.

He would be a great fit, and he seems to be flexible and open to new ideas. A young up and coming defensive coach like Morris would be great for the DC position.

ORBroncoFan53, coming from a U of U alum and fan, I hope the Utes at least keep it close. GO UTES!!!

Mark13, stay away from sharp objects. Can you at least try to get your head around the fact that this has happened, and quit living in the world of what 'should' have happened?

RockyMts69, amen, brother. No college coaches, please!

DD, good points. Hope your parents are doing better. Hang in there, bud.
January 1, 2009

5:42 p.m.

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Jubei writes:

Bigg_Nuggets, there is talk of Elway getting into some kind of front office position. I think we would be a little hasty putting him right into the GM position. Regardless, I love the thought of having the Big Guy back in the organization. Whoever ends up being the GM had better be someone proven.
January 1, 2009

6:40 p.m.

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Vanderhoss writes:

The wrong coach or coach's could blow a potentially good thing. Kubiac has two years left on his contract with Texans. If Bowlen could work a deal to get him," without sacrificing draft choices". He is very familiar with Shanahans offense. Wouldn't be alot of changes needed in the offense, but a little tweeking here and there. There is still the possibility Jones is going to fire Phillips. He has a very good defensive mind. Doubt he will get another head coaching job. "Just a thought."
January 1, 2009

6:44 p.m.

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BroncoRick69 writes:

Spagnuolo is the guy we need. Any other would be second best.
January 1, 2009

6:51 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

BroncoRick69, agreed. Although Rex Ryan is a good pick for the coach, as well. Nobody can deny the Ravens D. Just, please, please don't pick a college coach, Bowlen. Such a mistake. Leave the Broncos fans with hope for the next season, not dread.
January 1, 2009

7:06 p.m.

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MarcoPolo writes:

Dynamicdave, incognitoboy: get a room. Pittsburgh made the playoffs each year under Chan. Denver made the Super Bowl 3 of 6 years he was here (as a defensive assistant and special teams coach). None of his teams went below .500 and most won 10+ games. Oh yeah, KC did beat us pretty bad this year ... when we were 3-0.

Dave, let me quote you on a post you made at the beginning of the season:

"Our kicking game will be fine."

*snicker*

And we're supposed to trust YOUR input? Evidently you are the only Bronco fan around since you accuse everyone else of not being one. Um, whatever. Anyway I'll leave you with another quote from a famous (former) Bronco tight-end:

"Never get into a peeing contest with a skunk. You're always going to lose."

You win, Dave.
January 1, 2009

7:06 p.m.

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sbrooks5280 writes:

I for one am in favor of STEVE SPAGNULO, a brilliant mind for managing, great defensive coach, players love him! He would be a great fit, and he doesn't want to be the GM! Spags gets my vote. Stoops is a prolific college coach and should stay there. Don't know much about Raheem Morris so I am reluctant to comment on his qualifications, wouldn't call Tampa a powerhouse after how they finished however.
January 1, 2009

8:01 p.m.

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HopiMedicineMan writes:

Hire Spagnuolo as head coach. He's the right guy to turn around the weakest area. Bring Elway in as either head of operations based on his arena and auto experience, and/or, make him the quarterback coach. No one can relate to Cutler's exceptional abilities quite like someone with similar abilities.
January 1, 2009

8:11 p.m.

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RockyMts69 writes:

Chan Gailey...? Did'nt he get fired last year at Georgia Tech?
January 1, 2009

8:12 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

Gee Marco, are you going to cry? All you ever do is bash. I've read your posts. So, you save my posts? Interesting. I felt our kicking game would be fine. At 1st, it was. He fell off at the end. I also thought we would go to the playoffs, wrong about that, as well. Thing is, I don't bash the Broncos, you do. I've read your comments and most of the time it's to say something negative or sarcastic about the Broncos, so tell me, why should we take your posts serious? If you want the Broncos to go to a head coach who was 27th in passing with Pittsburgh, with the passing game that Denver currently has in place, please, enlighten us and tells us why? Because they went to the playoffs? Their D got them there, more then the O. They had the "Bus" help on O. Are you saying Denver should rely on our run when we have a QB who threw for 4500 yards? Don't just say "Chan Gailey", without reasons as to what he will bring to the table, other then a poor passing offense? I would rather make a quote of optimism and be wrong, than read your pessimistic, sarcastic dribble, any day. Deny you don't bash and talk sarcastic smack about the Broncos? Tell us you add constructive input. Yeah, right. People know how you post. To call yourself a fan is ludicrous. You're a fan of negatism, more often then naught. You need to get the room, son. A padded one.
January 1, 2009

8:33 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

RockyMts69, yep. Also, Gailey went to teams that already had much in place, offensively. Pittsburgh had "the bus". Cowboys had Emmit. Yes, they would finish with great run yards but not on passing. MarcoSolo wants Denver to give up their pass attack for a running game? I say keep it balanced. We would have this year if not for the injuries to RB's. I have seen Gaileys game on offense. When he was a college coach he had names like Jamal Lewis to make the O. He had teams already built and fell into a winning team (sort of). The running game stayed decent. Passing, sub far or worse.
January 1, 2009

8:38 p.m.

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starband writes:

Why look for a coach outside of the Denver area? Seems to me there are about 100,000 people, or so, who know more than Mike Shanahan. All you have to do is listen to everybody on a Monday morning. Heck, I'll even do the job for half of what Shanahan was paid.
January 1, 2009

9:02 p.m.

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Jared0709 writes:

The NFL is no different than any other business in that solutions that work become trends and until the trend fails, everyone will jump into it. This leads me to believe Bowlin will go with an NFL experienced coach with no head coaching experience. I like Kubiak, but I think he's too much like Shanahan. Not a bad thing, but the Bronco's need a culture change, not just a shift. Interesting story about how the Falcons often practice with their first team defense going against the first team offense versus playing the scout teams like many other organizations. Those type of fresh ideas are what we need in Denver in my opinion. I like the bloodlines of both Morris and Spragnuolo, and both seem to have enthusiasm towards motivating their troops. I think Spragnuolo has a slight edge in my mind only because his tenure might give him a stronger perspective on what his staff should look like and who they might be. Morris hasn't been in the ranks very long, and might have more issues in putting together a solid staff. On the plus, I think Tomlin is an absolute stud, his intensity and intelligence for the game are very apparent and with Morris being compared to him, it sounds exciting for sure.
January 1, 2009

9:06 p.m.

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Cwillyrun1 writes:

I had heard something about Elway and the Broncos, so I wonder if Bowlen's interested in Elway as a GM? Spagnuolo is a good option. Morris isn't a bad idea, and Stoops is one of the few college coaches I actually think could make the transition, and the Broncos are different than most teams that hire college coaches because they have an offense that doesn't need a lot of work..... a top offense. It worked with Dallas and Jimmy Johnson. The defense should be blown up, with safety, defensive line and linebacker the positions to work on (in that order, in my opinion). Running back is the only position on offense that should be addressed.

As a huge Broncos fan, I'm realistic in admitting the Broncos offensive numbers may not remain top 5-10 in the NFL like it has under Shanahan. But if the defense can get to top 10 material, with a better than average offense, the Broncos can win the AFC west and maybe more. I hope the Broncos new coach keeps Bobby Turner as the running back's coach.

I do have a problem with ESPN's audio of The Fan with a Broncos fan saying Shanahan took Reeves' players and that's how Shanahan won Super Bowls. Are there Broncos fans seriously dumb like that, or was it a Raiders fan posing as a Broncos fan? Other than Elway, Sharpe, Atwater and Braxton, I don't know any others that played under Reeves. Shanahan deserves a lot of credit for what he did, and the two Super Bowl wins with a team built mostly under his reign is something I won't ever forget. Thanks Mike...... thanks for giving us Broncos fans the best of memories!
January 1, 2009

9:25 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

Cwillyrun1, agreed, about the Shanahan/Reeves thing. When Shanahan came from the 49ers, he came with much of the 49ers coaching staff and a large handful of players. He had people like Eddie Mac and Romanowski. He revamped everything and tweaked the offensive playbook with the 49ers look he had with San Fran.. Upon Mikes leaving, he left Denver with a great offense and that's a start. We just need to get Torain, Hillis and Alridge, back on the field. I think they can do a great job if they can stay healthy. Hillis is a stud. Anybody can be hurt the way he was. Same with Torain. He was put in an unusual position when they fell on his leg. Defense and ST's is the biggest concern. We have "some" good talent that will stay (Champ, DJ, Larsen, Winborn, Woodyard), but a lot of bad talent or "average" talent that needs to go (we all know who they are). This next few weeks will be hell, waiting to hear who will take the reins.
January 1, 2009

9:25 p.m.

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pmadd writes:

I agree - Stoops would be way too big of a gamble. The college game is just way too different. Recruiting is a huge part of it, schemes are different, etc. and it is far from a given that a good college coach will translate to a good NFL head coach. Most have failed in the past.

I'm also not a huge fan of the "golden-boy" coordinator of the week. It's just too unpredictable as to whether the success of the unit is due to emergence of talent or due to the schemes that have been implemented. At least looking at someone who has had success over time with a variety of players would make sense.

In particular, Schwarz in TN - his unit has only had a short run of real success and he has Haynesworth. Similar for Morris in TB - he was only running the D-Backs and how much of Tampa's long-standing success on defense is due to him and how much is due to Kiffin or players.

Yes, there has been some success recently among coordinators moving to head coach (Tomlin, Harbaugh, Sporano, etc.) but there has been just as many if not more failures (Crenel, Mangini, Norv Turner, Philips, etc.). Also, Tomlin is a very bad comparison - he inherited an extremely talented Super Bowl winning team (ala Seiffert/Switzer) and came from WITHIN the organization so he basically just managed NOT to screw it up.

Of those mentioned Spagnuolo is the only coordinator that I think should be strongly considered. Though he too has only run the defense for a short amount of time, he has worked magic with the loss of Strahan, Numenoria, etc. and still kept the defense humming. Rex Ryan might be another intriguing option. Lastly, I think Bowlen would be idiotic to dismiss Cowher. He is the only person out there with a long history of success and he comes from a defense-first background. It is a once-in-a-decade opportunitity to land a coach like this and if he is really serious about wanting to win badly, he will at least talk to him and strongly consider making a move to bring him in - even if it means giving him more control and/or money than he would like to after getting burned with Shanahan.
January 1, 2009

9:37 p.m.

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Spider writes:

Yes! They are looking for fresh blood! I was really happy with the way this blog was going until someone brought up Chan Gailey. I wouldn't mind seeing him on the staff but not as HC!
January 1, 2009

9:51 p.m.

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tomk writes:

Thanks dynamicdave for your kind welcome. It is pretty lonely over here thousands of miles from the action to maintain my Broncos support. Fear not, I will support them to the grave. From what I have read Spagnuolo seems the ideal replacement esp. with his defense coaching skills. All managers/coaches in any sport become stale to their players after a number of years. I believe that MS will be a success wherever he goes (please lord, NOT SD) with a fresh group of players. Thanks also to T1anda for the recommendations of websites. I shall follow this up once the dust settles on MS's departure. Having followed the game for over 20 years I am not completely naive (please note xxx) but I am prepared to continue to learn. Can I ask one question which puzzles me. If penalties are given for UNNECESSARY roughness what constitutes NECESSARY roughness? Take care all of you. Things may turn out better and sooner than most of you think.
January 1, 2009

9:51 p.m.

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6_is_the_new_7 writes:

I don't have a problem with anybody on the list so far and I understand and somewhat agree with the theory of not wanting a college coach. However, if anyone from the Broncos reads this, please consider Kirk Ferentz of Iowa. He says he's not looking to change jobs, but I think he could be persuaded to take the Denver job.
January 1, 2009

10:21 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

Kooiman, I don't really know much about Ferentz except for what I've read. He was the offensive line coach for the Browns and went with them when they became the Baltimore Ravens. He was a defensive coach in college for a little while, but offense is mainly his forte. I just feel Denver needs a defensive minded head coach. Ferentz has good stats but mostly offensive stats.

Tomk, you're welcome. Like the "necessary roughness" joke. I don't live in Colorado. I live in Las Vegas. I have to catch the latest news on the Internet, much as you. I do catch ESPN, however. Try Fox Sports News and ESPN on the Internet for news. Also, Yahoo Sports News. Pretty much everyone on the blog likes Spagnuolo. He would be a nice fit. It won't be long before we know "what's what".
January 1, 2009

10:40 p.m.

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MileHighMagic writes:

If Spags knows one thing, it is how to coach a defense. If there is one thing that the Broncos need help in, it is the defense. We need a defensive minded coach to bring back the glory days of the Orange Crush defense. I don't like the idea of bringing in Stoops. The transition of college coaches to the NFL never turns out good (Spurier, Sabin, Petrino, ect). Some other canidates to keep an eye out for are Rex Ryan, Brian Billick and Jim Fossil. Denver needs a defensive minded coach and Spags will fix up the D. The offense will take care of itself.
January 1, 2009

10:49 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

MileHighMagic, just a friendly FYI, it's Jim Fassel. But, yes I agree. Don't forget Morris from TB. He has a future, as well. They just need to go defensive.
January 1, 2009

10:53 p.m.

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Jeev writes:

Dynamicdave,

Last week you answered my post of firing Shanahan and hiring Steve Spagnuolo with a Steve who??? Looks like you have done some research on our future coach, judging by your comments above "Spagnuolo sounds like the best bet, mentioned so far. Giants have a solid D. Denver could use his guidance. With his defensive knowledge, Denver could be a real force for years to come."

Glad to see you boarded the Spagswagon, you are going to love him!
January 1, 2009

11:02 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

Jeev, yeah, I've been doing my "homework", ha, ha. I want to know if I'm going to say "OH NO" or "OH YES", when they finally pick someone. Morris has great stats on D, as well. But Spag would be my 1st choice. Not so sure about them getting the Patriots O coach? We need defense.
January 1, 2009

11:17 p.m.

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Tedwin writes:

Here's a thought, since the sources say the brass wants someone young. How about Josh McDaniels as HC, keep Bates as QB coach and then hire Morris for Defensive Coordinator. I think Morris would choose the Broncos over the Bucs and it would be a lateral move. McDaniels has proven he could make even Cassel look good and Morris is an up and coming coach who got high remarks from Kiffin. Spags sounds great but he's old and I think Pat wants someone who's young and will stick around for another 10 years or so.
January 1, 2009

11:33 p.m.

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pmadd writes:

As head coaches go, Spagnuolo would not be that old - only 49. Someone like McDaniels, IMO, is way too young and inexperienced. He inherited an already very good offense and has maintained it since Weis left but he only has a few years of coaching experience total and it would be irresponsible to entrust the team to as inexperienced a coach as him. Even Spagnuolo is pretty inexprienced in terms of coaching at a high level - only 2 years of coordinator exprience in the NFL. He does have another 8 years under Jim Johnson in Philadelphia though.
January 1, 2009

11:37 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

Tedwin, anythings possible, I suppose, but Bowlen is more interested, it sounds like, in a defensive thinking head coach. McDaniels is being considered but I'm worried that an offensive coach will try to change the offensive scheme. Leave Bates and Dennison to handle the O and get a D HC and a D coordinator.
January 2, 2009

12:04 a.m.

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BigRedCelt writes:

My God no college coach please. I do agree about bringing in an offensive coach that might want to change the offense. Although, I felt even early in the season they were a bit too pass happy. I'd like to see the two back set that won Superbowls. I really think Hillis and Torain could be hot. The running game has not been "dictating" since Griffith retired. Hillis brings the same atribute and looks like a better runner. Torain, of course has to prove he can stay healthy. I hope we've seen the last of Mr 2000 (Young).

I like Spagnuolo. I think he brings attitude other than the posturing after the occasional tackle. Maybe he can do something with Moss and Crowder (not counting on it, just a thought).

Shanny is a great coach, but this is a very good thing. The defense was going to get an overhaul anyway. This way it's a complete overhaul.

Oh yeah BLY MUST GO!!!!

Go Broncos!!!
January 2, 2009

12:20 a.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

BigRedCelt, agreed about Bly. Oh, and maybe Webster can share the driving time with him? We can only hope. Torain and Hillis could be the dynamic duo. As you said, providing Ryan can stay healthy.
January 2, 2009

12:20 a.m.

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NoWay writes:

As distasteful as it might seem to fellow Bronco fans, very serious consideration should be given to hiring Marty. While the Bronco brain trust was squandering draft picks year after year, he was quietly assembling a team in San Diego that is so solid not even Norv Turner could destroy it (although he is trying to). Wet-nursing a college coach or hiring a current coaching underling who knows only one side of the ball is not what's needed. We need someone already experienced and successful in building a balanced team, now. Someone with savvy for both O and D. The O is very one-dimensional, relying too much on circus catches in double coverage, and the "running game" is an LB's dream - pathetic. A D-only coach is not enough. Bowlen's pipeline to OKLA will probably win out, though, to benefit himself, not the team.
January 2, 2009

5:14 a.m.

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tomk writes:

Hi guys, I just wish the USA wasn't quite so insular re their sport. I have gladly embraced the NFL for over 20 years. It saddens me that one of the mightiest nations on earth cannot embrace 'the beautiful game' i.e. football in the rest of the civilised and not so civilised world. Just imagine a passionate game played continuously for 45 minutes per half with no advert breaks. Would you not kill for that? We hate the halftime advert breaks but at least we can do something productive during the ads. I don't know how you stand it. NFL as it is presented by Sky TV over here does not permit the number of ad breaks you have to suffer. So, while you watch mindless ads we go back to the studio for expert analysis by mainly American experts (usually ex-players). I hope my blogs can be mutually beneficial as the problems in both games are not that dissimilar especially when you are trying to revive a team with severe injury problems. (last season I was able to select an entire 11 of Rangers players injured who would have served us well on the pitch. Needless to say Celtic won the league - so don't be too hard on the Broncos. These are intriguing times post MS. Keep the speculation coming. I suspect I am not the only person that reads the sport pages first before discovering that WWIII has broken out on the news pages. Enjoy the speculation. Happy New Year once again and my personal thanks to dynamicdave and t1anda for their helpful comments and support. Take care and enjoy the game.
January 2, 2009

5:25 a.m.

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RoloFan writes:

Denver has been blessed for the past 14 years because they haven't been on the new Head Coach carousel. We're about to find out what life is like for the rest of league. Whoever comes in next season will be following a legend (like the day that Brian Griese was named as John Elway's replacement). Unless the Broncos immediately go to the playoffs, they will be deemed a failure. Good luck in finding a replacement who can do that.

I'm not excited by this choice at all, nor any of the candidates listed. They have only proven that they can be assistant coaches or coordinators in the NFL. Am I wrong, or was Romeo Crenell once considered to be a hot defensive coordinator? What did he do as a head coach?

How many head coaches has the Redskins had in the past 5 years? Or the Raiders?

"So the only sure thing about the process of hiring assistant coaches to be head coaches is that some of them will indeed be successful. And, more often than not, it'll happen in their second head-coaching job. " The Sporting News, January 25, 2008

Now that the decision has been made, someone has to replace Shanahan. Just don't expect great things next season. Unless the coach is a sure thing (like Cowher), expect things to get worse. I'm not looking forward to next year at all.
January 2, 2009

5:58 a.m.

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tomk writes:

RoloFan don't be so pessimistic. Under your constitution you have an inaliable right to be hopeful and optimistic (nil illegitum carborundum i.e. don't let the the b******s grind you down.) I am currently watching Andy Murray demolish Roger Federer live on tv, if that is not a contradiction in terms. Current score 4-6, 6-2,5-6 in the last set heading for a tie break. .We Scots (all 5 million of us don't do tennis due to our rotten weather). How on earth is this happening. Along with Chris Hoy (who was given a knighthood for winning 3 golds at the olympics for cycling - another sport we don't do).Maybe the good Lord has turned his countenance upon us as he gave us as our neighbours 45 million arrogant English. At least Gordon Brown (our PM) is also a Scot who supports a lesser football team called Raith Rovers - a man who knows how to suffer in support of his team. Denver fans be of good cheer. If the worst the Broncos can achieve at the moment is 8-8 and just missing out on the playoffs (n.b. only 12 teams out of 32 get that far) we are not in Detroitville by a long chalk. Keep hopeful.
January 2, 2009

6:07 a.m.

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RoloFan writes:

I understand the coaching change. It was going to happen someday, whether it was Bowlen or Shanahan who made the decision (remember when Shanny almost left for the Florida coaching job?). That's life in the NFL. I just think Bronco fans are naive to believe that OVERNIGHT the Broncos will become Super Bowl contenders because they bring in a new head coach, especially if it's someone else's assistant head coach. The odds are the team will get worse before it gets better. That's also life in the NFL.
January 2, 2009

6:11 a.m.

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tomk writes:

P.S Murray has just beaten Federer (for the 3rd time in a row) by 8-6 in the tiebreak in which the Swiss saved 3 match points. O Flower of Scotland when will we see your like again. O flower of Denver we WILL see your like again sooner than you might think.
January 2, 2009

6:34 a.m.

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RoloFan writes:

OK, let's say Bowlen brings in that coach who can deliver smash-mouth defense to the Broncos. Where do you think the Broncos will finish next year? 7-9? 8-8? Better than 8-8? In the playoffs? And if they don't make the playoffs again, will you be happy with that?

I think the BEST we can expect next season is 8-8 and no playoffs (again). If Bowlen makes the right pick, then 10-6 or better with a playoff berth is possible in TWO seasons.
January 2, 2009

7:26 a.m.

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mpbarker writes:

I'm glad to see they're looking for the NEXT great coach, and not a FORMERLY great coach. It would be great to have another guy with the youth and potential to be "coach for life". Building with loyalty and continuity aren't necessarily bad things. Nothing against Cowher or Shottenheimer--but do we want a semi-retired type guy who may have a couple of years in him, or may not?
January 2, 2009

8:15 a.m.

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Jared0709 writes:

I bleed blue and orange and I'm sure it effects my reality from time to time, but I don't expect a coaching carousel in Denver. I think the quality of the organization starting with Bowlen, the young talent, the number of draft picks and Bowlen's big wallet all contribute to a successful setting. Most coach carousels begin because they have no quarterback and little talent at the skill positions. I think in the Broncos talent more resembles the Dolphins, Falcons and Ravens versus the Lions. Denver has on offense what the Ravens had on Defense and if the D next year can manage the game, get the o on the field by way of punt returns versus kickoff returns, I expect a similiar rebound. And the poster above saying Tomlin was an exception because Pitt was so talented is correct. However, look at what Wade did with incredible talent in Dallas. Tomlin still had to do the job, and has. If Morris is a similiar type of man, than I would expect him to excel with the Broncos. I think Denver's infra structure encourages success. Dan Reeves was successful here, Wade not so much, and of course Mike was very successful here. While next's years schedule is brutal, with a top 15 defense next year, Denver will be right in the thick of things.
January 2, 2009

8:17 a.m.

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DisplacedColoradoan writes:

I live in New England, and Josh McDaniels is not ready to be a head coach in the NFL (he's 32). BB is the real brains in the Patriot coaching organization. Case in point: when Mangini left the Patriots for the Jets everyone thought the Patriots were going to come apart at the seams and the Jets would be the new dominant force in the AFC East. Well, that was then. Let the Jets have McDaniels and feel like they've once again spited the hated Patriots. They'll be in the same situations 3 years hence while the Broncos and HC Spags are battling the Patriots for a Super Bowl birth.
January 2, 2009

8:20 a.m.

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ElwayGod7 writes:

Stoops wouldn't be a bad choice, he is an offensive mind and can put together a tough defense, not a great defense, but a tough one, Spagnuolo is the next Marinelli or Mangini, a good defensive mind, but whats did any of them have that made them a great head coach? Spagnuolo might have a great defensive scheme, but as we've seen the past few years, if you don't have the right players, the scheme doesn't mean crap, the rest of the OC's that are being interviewed are interesting, but by their own admission, not likely ready to be a head coach, McDaniel's is interesting, but he wouldn't be any kind of upgrade form say Jeremy Bates so that's kind of pointless. If they want to go the college route, maybe Pete Carroll? Maybe Danny Hawkins can be persuaded to bring his glorious hair on up to INVESCO (that's a joke by the way, Hawkins is a douche, but he's got a fantastic head of hair!)....Please do not bring Cohwer in here because he may be the most overrated candidate in history of the NFL, I'd rather watch Denny Green troll the sidelines. It's going to be a long and difficult search for the donks and I honestly have no clue as to what they think they can find. This is my whole problem with letting Shanny go, I don't disagree entirely that a change needed to be made, but the timing of it was terrible, I mean who is out there that will change the problems this team has? Who is out there that can get Nate Webster to tackle anyone or get Dre Bly to realize he's covering the WR in front of him? In my opinion, they would have been better served keeping Shanny, finding a solid D coordinator and LEAVING him alone to do his job! Keep Shanny away from him and the eniter defense and just let the DC's do their job. I guess it's too late for that now though, I guess we can all look forward to the return of Wade Phillips or maybe Dan Reeves makes a comeback? Either way, Good Luck Mr. Bowlen, I hope you know what you're doing…..GO BRONCOS!!
January 2, 2009

8:55 a.m.

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jjfjules writes:

How about looking at Troy Calhoun
Broncos experience, Offensive coordinator with Kubiac and Head Coach with a great record considering Air Force's recruiting limitations
January 2, 2009

8:56 a.m.

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pete10000ft writes:

Mangini.
January 2, 2009

8:58 a.m.

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philvysor writes:

The Broncos should offer the job to Cowher and then he can make Kordell Stewert his Off. Cordinator.
January 2, 2009

9:04 a.m.

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hoppman writes:

Just say NO to Stoops and Kubiak. Kubiak has done nothing in Houston and I do not want him as the Broncos head coach. He was an offensive coordinator in name only with the Broncos. If he wanted to be quarterbacks coach then that would be fine. I want a defensive minded coach and a GM that can evaluate offensive and defensive talent.
January 2, 2009

9:11 a.m.

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Aristodemus writes:

ORBroncoFan53-
Wittingham just signed an extension at The U, he won't be leaving anytime soon. I don't think they'll lose big to the tide, either.
I think Spagnuolo is a good choice.
January 2, 2009

9:27 a.m.

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pete10000ft writes:

Whoever they get it'll be 2-3 seasons before they are good. They need to clean house.....
January 2, 2009

9:32 a.m.

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ElwayGod7 writes:

Kubiak coming back would be a nice step in the right direction, he could be a nice tie to the old days and could get this team going in the right direction, He's done a nice job in Houston with what he's had, if he came back, I think he'd get the job done and do it the right way. All of you people that keep calling for a "defensive minded" coach need to realize that until you have someone other than DJ Williams, Jaime Winborn, Nate Webster, Dre Bly, John Engelberger, Elvis Dumerville, Marquand Manual, Josh Bell, Karl Paymah, Calvin Lowery, Jarvis Moss, Vernon Fox, Nic Clemmons, Dewayne Robertson and Marlon McCree playing on that defense, it wont matter if the head coach is "defensive" minded or not because he wont win anyway. The changes this team need go much deeper than a defensive philosophy. We need a solid head coach, defensive minded or not.
January 2, 2009

9:44 a.m.

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dgocoman writes:

Don't let the failures of Carroll, Spurrier, Saban, etc, cloud the judgement on hiring a college coach. If you don't have good assistant coaches (and players) it doesn't matter who the head coach is. Carroll was with the Jets a long time ago; Spurrier was with a dysfunctional Redskins organization; and Saban's controlling personality did not fit the current pro player. Stoops seems like one of the few guys who can manage an NFL player today. I think he or Spags are the two best choices at this point.
January 2, 2009

9:51 a.m.

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Jubei writes:

Please, Mr. Bowlen, no retreads and no college coaches.

More importantly, make sure that Turner, Dennison and Bates are retained.
January 2, 2009

9:57 a.m.

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T1anda writes:

Totally agree with EGod7! Sure hope Bowlen doesn't live to regret letting a hall of fame coach go elsewhere.
January 2, 2009

10:03 a.m.

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bassman writes:

At least Shanny left the pantry stocked with 9 draft picks in a year where many underclassmen will come out in order to avoid the restrictions on rookie salaries that will come in the new bargaining agreement. Maybe his smartest move as GM. The next coach should be able to rebuild fairly quickly.
January 2, 2009

10:09 a.m.

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Jubei writes:

Wasn't Shanahan basically the 'next great assistant' to become a head coach?

Yeah, he coached for five minutes for the Raiders, but he still had essentially no HC experience when he started as the coach in Denver.

If he worked out pretty well over the long run, couldn't one of these other guys, like Spags?

And isn't that the typical progression for coaches anyway?
January 2, 2009

10:38 a.m.

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DefiantOne writes:

Call me crazy but here we go. I have been a Bronco fan since 1974 when I was 8. This don’t make me better or more knowledgeable than anyone else, but I know some Bronco history. First I think firing Shanny was a bad move this year with all the injuries and all. I'd would have brought in a GM though. I'll say I agree that I would interview Rex Ryan from the ravens the only thing that scares me about him is it his coaching or his personal? Its like Marvin Lewis he was D-cord there too and the Bengals are no where close to the ravens on D. But Here might be a crazy look to some I'd HIRE Bill Romonowski as GM. if you remember when he came to Denver from Philly he told Shanny about a few players there that could help the broncos win and bring in depth to the rosters Bubby Brister was one no not the greatest player but he did help win a couple of games when John was down like in KC. He also brought in a RB that could and did a great job on special teams as kick returner and punt returner and a 3rd down back with good hands. Bill knows GOOD players and most of all players who aren’t scared to hit someone or get hit. keep the current offensive coaches intact. and DO NOT go back to the good ole boy system of scouts and coaches like Reeves did that is why we had so many bad drafts can you say TED Gregory. Charlie West? bad player bad coach. bad scouts.
January 2, 2009

10:41 a.m.

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MTBroncofan writes:

My New Years Coaching Wish List:

1. Head Coach: Spags has to be the man. I still like the idea of Cowher, but from what I am hearing, it probably will not be a good fit as Cowher wants too much control and Bowlen will not give it to one single person. Spags has NFL experience and has proven himself well with the Giants; however, IF Cowher would settle for less control, he is the best man for this job.

2. General Manager: No suggestions here, but would rather see a proven talent evaluator. Ex-players do not necessarily make great GM's - see Matt Millen. Maybe Elway could fulfill this role..

3. O Coordinator: Jeremy Bates is the man for this job.

4. D Coordinator: I have no suggestions here either, but if Spags (or Cowher?????) winds up here, he must maintain huge control over the defense until it has been transformed.

5. Keep Dennison and Turner.

That's all. Oh my other wish: There's alot of cry baby bed wetters that post on this site. Would all of you 'cry baby bed wetters' - you know who you are - please go patronize another team... maybe Detroit?
January 2, 2009

10:43 a.m.

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MarcoPolo writes:

LOL SardonicDave.

Like I said, you win.
January 2, 2009

10:45 a.m.

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liesandpropaganda08 writes:

Parcells and whoever he wants to bring in or Cowher. Amongst those that have been mentioned, Spagnuolo and Bates or McDaniels and maybe Crennel as DC would fit.

Bob Stoops would set this team back at least 5 years. Please keep Pat Bowlen away from Jerry Jones.
January 2, 2009

10:49 a.m.

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roundthebend writes:

Am I the only one who finds it curious, that after 3 days there are still no comments from #7 in a situation that involves not one, but two of his closest friends.

Is it possible that the reason that Mr. B stated that he was looking for a head coach that could win a super bowl was a clue to the fact that he already had a GM/VP in place ?

My cloak and dagger imagination leads me to visions of John hunkered down in Idaho with 2 untracable cell phones (1 on the charger) consulting with, GOD knows who, with all the fervor of a draft day marathon.

I'm probably "round the bend" but it would be an awsome boost to Denver loyalists everywhere !

Win, Lose or Draw, I'm still wearing my Bronco's coat.

Good Luck Mike, wherever you land.
January 2, 2009

12:07 p.m.

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pmadd writes:

Here's what I would do if I were running the Broncos (Part I of II):

FRONT OFFICE
- Hire Elway as President of Football Operations (if he wants it)
- Bring in Scott Pioli as GM/Director of Player Personnel
- Bring in Spagnuolo or Cowher as Head Coach
- If Cowher is Head Coach, there might not be enough room for the egos of Elway, Pioli, and Cowher so we might need to split the GM/personnel duties between Elway and Cowher (Pioli out of the picture) or possibly bring in a less powerful GM (bring Sundquist back for example)

DEFENSE
- Our defense suffers for many reasons.
-- Lack of talent
-- Offensive turnovers and lack of running game leave them on the field far too long
-- Poor starting field position due to horrific kick coverage team
- I cannot profess to know how to fix all of these and some are actually issues with the offense but here are a few suggestions
-- Trade Champ Bailey - he has been largely ineffective despite pro bowl nods the past two seasons due to injuries and we need to get what we can for him while we still can get something
-- Similar for Dre Bly except he just needs to go
-- Probably get rid of DJ Williams as well (too expensive and too ineffective)
-- Use cap space freed to go after Haynesworth and Roy Williams (Safety not WR)
-- If we hire Spags or Cowher they will likely have guys that they know of who are diamonds in the rough as well
January 2, 2009

12:08 p.m.

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Cwillyrun1 writes:

Cowher likes his retirement, so I don't see him coming back to the NFL....... not even the Broncos. College coaches can work, it just has to be the right one. Stoops could be that guy, but the list of college guys should be very, very short and for the most part Bowlen should stick to NFL guys.

I've read about Hillis, Torain and Hall in regards to next year on some previous posts, but Shanahan is no longer the coach and the odds of any of those guys playing significantly aren't high. Maybe Hillis in combination with another back, but I don't see the same running game here as we're used to. In other words, the saying that "any back could run in the Denver system" is no longer applicable.

rolofan and pete, I agree with you, it could be 2 or 3 years before the Broncos are actual contenders again. I hope it's sooner than that though.
January 2, 2009

12:09 p.m.

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pmadd writes:

Here's what I would do if I were running the Broncos (Part II of II):

OFFENSE
- I would mostly leave this alone but everything is not right with the world on the offense either. The passing numbers seem good but a lot of this is because we have no running game and have had to come from behind in a lot of games where lots of passing was necessary. Cutler, Marshall, Royal, Scheffler, Graham, Clady, Harris, Hillis, and the rest of the O-Line form the core of a solid offense and I'd make sure we keep this intact.
-- TURNOVERS: These need to be remedied somehow - they absolutely killed us this season and put the defense in an even worse position than they already were in. Someone (QB coach) will need to work with Cutler to make sure he is seeing the field and not throwing as many bad passes and work with the backs and receivers to make sure they are holding onto the ball.
- RED ZONE: We somehow reverted back to the problems we had a couple of seasons ago with a poor red zone offense. We need to figure out how to score touchdowns when inside the 20. All the passing yards are great but far too often these did not translate into points. Running game will help with this as well.
- RUNNING GAME: This is absolute huge but we need to get back to having a dominating running game. This wears down opposing defenses, improves 3rd down and red zone offense, and possibly most importantly, keeps our own defense off the field. We not only need to pick up a punishing runner (Derrick Ward might fit the bill) but also may need to upgrade our O-Line to accommodate a solid run-blocking scheme. If Peyton Hillis can recover he should also definitely be part of the picture but I'm not sure any of the other guys we have are durable enough.

SPECIAL TEAMS AND CONDITIONING
- The special teams the last few seasons have been absolutely atrocious. Last season this was particularly the kicking and kick coverage games (which are related)
- KICKING: I'd sign Jason Hanson (8 for 8 from 50+ and 6 for 6 from 40-49 last season) or possibly try to draft Graham Gano (PK and P for Florida State and Groza award winner). He was 24 for 26 last season including 5 for 7 from 50+ and also has a 43+ yd punting average and managed to get 3 punts downed inside the 3 yd line in the Music City Bowl.
- INJURIES: The ridiculous amount of injuries over the last couple of seasons cannot be a coincidence. I'd look to bring in a top notch strength and conditioning coach and make sure that the team is working to keep in top shape so as to avoid injuries wherever possible.
January 2, 2009

12:13 p.m.

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RockyMts69 writes:

Jared0709...you made an interesting comment on how Denver needs a culture change. And that's EXACTLY what that whole organization needs! Shanahan is a talented man, but his play calling became stagnant.
January 2, 2009

12:20 p.m.

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Cwillyrun1 writes:

The Titans are already negotiating with Haynesworth on a new contract. He probably won't be on the market when the Broncos go looking for fresh meat. Williams was almost relegated to backup by Dallas this past season due to him having issues covering guys downfield....... and the Broncos already have problems there because their safeties are weak. It's not Champ Bailey or even Dre Bly, they can play, but when the line doesn't get pressure and the safety help is terrible, big plays will happen. I remember when the Broncos couldn't get any kind of decent corner, even with a pretty good defense otherwise, and they got blown out in Super Bowls for it. The next GM and coach need to fix what's wrong, and the corner position may be the only one on defense not in desperate need of work. Also, DJ Williams is probably the only guy in the front seven that should be starting each game.
January 2, 2009

12:46 p.m.

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liesandpropaganda08 writes:

Cwilly- Champ can play and Bly....well, not so much. The problem is that we have a disproportionate amount money invested in our secondary. We can not afford to bring in proven players that can make our defensive line respectable again with the scraps left over after paying these guys. The first jersey I bought for my son was Champ Bailey's. I love what he has done in Denver and I hope he stays but not at his current salary. He will be looking for a bigger deal soon, if not already. Bring in somebody that knows defense, throw out the bums, and fix the line.
January 2, 2009

12:48 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

pmadd, much of what you said is correct. Some is wrong, in my opinion.
1.) Champ Bailey. He was injured so his stats weren't as good, but to get rid of him is not a good idea. He was the best tackler on our team when healthy. You don't get rid of your best defensive player. Plus the leadership he can bring? Bad idea.
2.) This is two-fold. Our RB's are fine and it's not conditioning. You were incorrect in that assessment. Torain (if he can stay healthy) is a great runner. I didn't see Alridge get injured but I challenge you to have somebody fall on your leg and get bent over, as Ryan Torain did and not get injured? These RB's were in condition. It was, yes, bad luck. Hillis, bad luck. Torain, bad luck. Alridge, bad luck. Pittman, bad luck. Pope, bad luck. Coincidences do happen. Denver took some licks in RB's. You take those hits the way I saw it and walk away from them? Ain't happening. As far as a punishing runner, we have Hillis. Bring Pittman back. We don't need to spend $$ on running backs. We need D players and ST's.
3.) I agree, the running game in the red zone will help immensely.
4.) I think the turnovers will be minimal when we get rid of Hall and Young. They won't be back. Bates and Cutler will work well together. Keep in mind, everyone talks about how this was Cutlers 3rd year? Wrong. He has played less then 3 years in total games. Just a tad over 2. I recall Phallus Slivers was still on the bench after 2 years? Cutler started his rookie season. Not bad for the young kid.
January 2, 2009

1:04 p.m.

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philvysor writes:

Maybe the Broncos should hire Norv Turner once S.D. fires him. Then S.D. could hire Shanny.
January 2, 2009

1:12 p.m.

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maverick7 writes:

Hey DD, i agree with some of your earlier thoughts. I think keeping the O coaches might be better than everyone thinks. Yeah, I think Bates made some bone headed play calls but that happens but for the most part (97%) the play calls were good. You can't have the #1 or 2 O in the NFL with bad coaching. I would also propose keeping BTurner the RB coach, don't know if anyone has said that yet but I would keep him. I beleive him to be an exceptional coach, look at what he has done with average skilled runners.
Good luck Pat in finding the successor HC, I hope whom ever it is they bring a desire to win, passion for the game and confidence to get the job done!
January 2, 2009

1:15 p.m.

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Spider writes:

Rolofan, if Atlanta can do what they did with the players and situation they had or if the Dolphins can go from 1-15 to 11-5 why can't a new coach do the same in Denver?
January 2, 2009

1:18 p.m.

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ElwayGod7 writes:

Dynamic Dave, why do you think Aldridge, Hall, Torrain or Pope were huge losses? aside from the fact that we simply just didnt have a warm body that could even play RB, none of these guys were the answer, Torrain was hurt when we drafted him so the guy's obviously a walking injury, Aldridge, Hall, Young, Pope and whoever that Boyd guy was were all undrafted Free Agents, that means every team passed on them. Hillis was a 7th round draft pick as a full back. I will admit he was an awesome surprise because he played hard and was the only player on that team to show any heart, but he's not the answer at tailback. Keep Hillis as a FB/H-Back Chris Cooley type player, give him 5-8 carries a game, let him be that short yardage/goal line back Shanny always creamed himself over and go find a decent RB in the early rounds of the draft or in FA, hell, there's even a nice RB up in Ft Collins that would fit our system (if its kept in tact) pretty well that probably wont cost us a super high pick, but there is one thing I'll never forgive Shanny for and that was passing on Steven Jackson to take DJ Williams. Even if DJ turned out to be the second coming of Lawrence Taylor, Jackson fit our style perfectly and would have been a 2000 yard rusher with us. Whatever happens, RB needs a huge upgrade, there is a reason that every other team passed on those guys and the past few years is the reason why. I wonder how close Selvin got to the 2,000 yards he predicted for himself?
January 2, 2009

1:28 p.m.

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ElwayGod7 writes:

Sorry Dave, that Comment wasn't directed specifically towards you, more so towards everyone talking about Aldrige, Torrain and the some of other RB's we had this season. None of those guys should be back (except Hillis for the obvious reasons outlined in the previous post)
January 2, 2009

1:33 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

ElwayGod7, I still disagree. Torain, Alridge, Boyd and Pope showed flashes of true running talent. Yes, they got injured, but, as I said in an earlier post, I challenge you to take the hit that Torain took (they fell on his leg and bent him in an awkward position) and walk away from it. It won't happen. Pittman took a bad hit, as well. It's football. It happens. Denver just took the punishment this year. Torain is, IMO, going to make his mark. Also, we will retain most of our O, according to Bowlen and the media. The coaching staff, as well. With the injuries, Denver was still #2. If it's not broke, don't fix it. Just get rid of Young and Hall
and the turnovers are solved.
Also, those who suggest that Denver get rid of DJ? Are you serious? Not happening guys. He and Champ are our best players on D. They happened to get injured. Champ was never hurt when he played with Denver. He gets hurt and people scream for his head? DJ, as well? Please.
January 2, 2009

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Dynamicdave writes:

ElwayGod7, it's all good. I just want to mention, though, one name. This man was drafted, yes, but not until the 6th round and is now being considered for the HOF. He goes by the name of Terrell Davis. Just because a person is left undrafted, doesn't mean he has no talent. Remember Rod Smith? A person can come from a small town and college and get overlooked or under-appreciated. John Mobley from Kutztown, PA. I am just saying, give the kids a chance next year. If they get injured, scrap them. Torain and Hillis could be awesome in the backfield.
January 2, 2009

1:48 p.m.

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ElwayGod7 writes:

DJ was NEVER in position to make a play, he over pursues everything and gets pushed aside on almost play, he simply does not have the instinct needed to play LB in the NFL. He is a physical specimen and a tremendous talent, but just because you can dribble a basketball doesn't mean you can play in the NBA right? I mean Woodyard outplayed DJ and in the 4-5 games he replaced him and he's 215 freaking pounds? The thing is though, Woodyard didn't miss tackles and kept his gap responsibility. For all of DJ's talent, he misses too many tackles and is never in the right spot, I'm not saying it was entirely DJ's fault that the D was terrible, but combine him being out of position on every play along with pretty much everyone else plus the shottty tackling by the entire team and we all saw what happened. The fact that DJ was probably our best defensive player should tell you how bad it was
January 2, 2009

1:49 p.m.

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tomk writes:

Has it occurred to anyone out there that MS wanted to go. He looks too happy in the photos whilst the owner looks miserable. I believe MS feels he has done all he can do at Denver. They have concocted a departure which damages neither the owner or MS. MS is a massively marketable property whilst I feel that he has been there a season or 3 too long. Familiarity breeds contempt. MS was too close to players to give them the KITA treatment when needed. Jay can do with a new coach to bring him back to earth and reality. I hope it all works out sooner than later. Any opinions out there about this theory/guess?
January 2, 2009

1:56 p.m.

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bronco_fan_no_matter_how_painful writes:

I think that the primary issue that I hope Pat Bowlen is thinking about is addressing the lack of identity on defense. With that said I hope that he is able to convince Spagnuolo to accept the job in Denver. He brought a true identity to the Giants defense and has had the best pass rush over the past two years. (that was even after Strahan retired and Osi Umeniyora was lost for the season) Heck this guy shut the Patriots (last year's version) down in the Super Bowl...wow, that is impressive. Keep the offensive staff in place and let them continue to grow with the young players on that side of the ball. If a stud RB is available AFTER the key areas are addressed on defense, then fine. If not, I am confident in a combination of Torrain, T Bell, and Hillis. As for the rest, unsure, let them prove themselves. Alridge had even less carries (preseason) that Torrain had during regular season. Jury is still out. Bottom line there is that the offense will be just fine. I have a sneaky suspicion that if it is Spagnuolo that he may want to use Hillis in a similar role to Brandon Jacobs in NY with other guys as change of pace but getting plenty of carries. will have to wait and see...but, special teams is another area of great concern. It would be great to steal a guy like Bobby April from the Bills, easily the best special teams coach in the league. Remember when the Broncos were winning super bowls, a lot of starters played special teams...hmmm

Here's hoping that Bowlen hires a defensive minded guy (preferably Spagnuolo)...while I'm at it, here's hoping that Webster is sent down the road, along with nearly every safety on the roster and Karl Paymah...

Go Broncos 09 is our year!
January 2, 2009

1:56 p.m.

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GJrodburner writes:

That's my opinion too Spider: why can't Denver do what just occured in Atlanta, Baltimore, and Miami? We'll know right away if Pat Bowlen has a front office that is worth their salt real, real soon.

Another name that was overlooked, and maybe rightfully so, was that of Urban Meyer. As much as I would like to see Bill Cowher roving the west sidelines at Mile High, he probably can't hang with the limitations, or at least the idea of limits on his authority that Pat wants in place for the next head coach. Urban Meyer was mentioned on another bloggers Bronco' site-input somewhere between yesterday and today here in the RMN, and IMO Urban would be a better pick than that of Stoops IF Pat Bowlen decided to go college.

If I had to look at the current landscape, and given today's and yesterday's log and blogs it has been all over the map, one name from the current coaching staff that I want to see retained above Bates is Bobby Turner! I'd like to keep Cutler upright as much as possible next season, and sometimes, just like everything else in life, things change. Without a ground attack properly coached in "the one cut and down-hill" approach we have here, Jay may not make it an entire season. Given the IR list we had this year at RB, it could be argued that we didn't have a ground game this year to protect Jay; actually, that protection was from the passing scheme and that damnable bubble-screen. Because the N.F.L. is a true copy-cat league, don't think the bubble screen would be a good item to use next season, given how SD schemed against it in the last game played. So, the item list of whom to keep has to also be extended to another coach from the offense. That "next-in-line" person is actually a man that I have just busted and ripped on time and time again, and that is Rick Dennison. Rick Dennison and the work he did along with the O-line players too, well that was just short of great. I think Rick actually did Alex Gibbs proud with the way that line blocked this whole season. I think that some type of hybrid spread is going to be the norm here within the next 2-3 seasons in the N.F.L. The "wildcat" is old-school, but the apparitions and derivations that it lends to an offense, I don't know if we the paying and viewing fans can count that high! I think that Urban Meyer would be head and shoulders above Bob Stoops in regards to that style of play. In the end, the N.F.L. goes with the fundamentals when all else fails. Bigger is still better, and bigger and fast is always better than smaller and quick, at least at the pro level. I think the Broncos will follow script and opt for a Steve Spagnuolo type of head coach...not a bad move, but definitely a "traditional" approach to the position needing to be filled here in Denver.
January 2, 2009

1:59 p.m.

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bronco_fan_no_matter_how_painful writes:

tomk, interesting theory...not sure if Shanahan wanted to be fired but he certainly looked relieved. Maybe that was relief that he and Bowlen would continue to be friends, maybe relief that he wouldn't have to watch that miserable defense anymore, but relief nonetheless...I think that it truly was time and as much as I appreciate Shanny, a change will be good for the Broncos and for Shanny.
January 2, 2009

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GJrodburner writes:

Tomk, all bs aside, I wondered to myself the same thing about the MS walk-away or firing...depending on how you saw it! I know that from what I've read over the years, and have seen on T.V., even before the news conference, Mike and Pat are true best friends; maybe certain things can be faked for unusual effect, but what we saw, given how cynical we all have become in watching reality news, and reality shows, and reality everything else, it still occured to me that MS was looking forward to his new way of life, regardless if it was to a team this year or next year. I'm not mocking Mike or Pat, they didn't fake, IMO about anything they said in the news conferences; but your take on the whole event as another scenario may have some legs. I would love for Schefter or Krieger to explore this opinion...that this departure was of Mike's doing, not the other way around. If the team was to have the least amount of perceived damage, and if Mike really did decide it was in his best interests to go, it had to be in the eye of the beholder as if the owner decided on Mike's occupational termination. If they haven't already, I'd love to hear what Schefter or Krieger have to say about this line of thought.
January 2, 2009

2:16 p.m.

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ClintEastwood writes:

Since Cowher must not be an option anymore - far & away the next best option is Stoops. People forget Coughlin was a college coach & Stoops manages a team in a similar manner.

10 years is a long time to be at one school in college ball. My guess is Bowlen will 'pony' up the big bucks.

Prediction - Stoops to Denver, Leach to OK.
January 2, 2009

2:19 p.m.

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Cwillyrun1 writes:

elwaygod, Jackson is an injury looking for a place to happen. No back will gain over 2,000 yards sitting in his street clothes during parts of each season.

GJ, the wildcat offense was losing steam towards the end of the year. It wasn't catching any defense off guard by then and once the surprise of it was lost, it's effectiveness diminished quite a bit. It's nothing more than a fad, and like the wishbone isn't more than a quirk offensive play that couldn't be used too often because the speed in the NFL means defenders run those plays down easy. I read your comments on Urban Meyer, but he's too much like Nick Saban to me. Better in college than the NFL!
January 2, 2009

2:25 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

termig8r, while Stoops is being considered, I hope he's not picked. I stand by my theory that college coaches have a tough time making the transition from college to NFL. Also, the fans don't want to go into the season with all that uncertainty. Spags, Morris, Ryan. These are names I would feel more comfortable with.
January 2, 2009

2:26 p.m.

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Cutler6 writes:

People get your heads straight COLLEGE COACHES ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL IN THE NFL IT HAS BEEN PROVEN QUIT TRYING TO JUSTIFY (YOU TOO BOWLEN) THE FACT THAT MEYER OR STOOPS WOULD BE GOOD THEY WILL BE OUTTA HER AFTER TWO TO THREE SEASONS WITH A LOSING RECORD SEE THE ATLATA FALCONS LAST YEAR.

I AM SURE GLAD NONE OF YOU FANS WHO EVEN THINK THESE COACHES WILL WORK OUT ARE RUNNING THE TEAM
January 2, 2009

2:37 p.m.

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ElwayGod7 writes:

thats cool Cutler6, let Bowlen bring in a College coach to prove your point and then in 2-3 years when he fires whoever it is he can bring Shanny back as the rightful coach of the Denver Broncos
January 2, 2009

2:37 p.m.

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GJrodburner writes:

Cwilly, it's left to be seen how much steam is out of the "wild-cat"; given the defense it will be playing in the first round (the Ravens) and the guy who is their DC (Rex Ryan), I would say that Sporano and his crew have been holding out on it and we'll see if this type of old fashioned single wing has outlived its fad status or is a harbinger of things to come. I have no idea, really, one way or the other. I just think that given the way ball has changed at the high school level out in Cali, and the way that Urban Meyer has won at Utah and now with UF with a hybrid spread, run-and-shoot, and to some extent a version of the "wild-cat" , and given the train of thought on this current site, Meyer would be my pick if and only if Bowlen went college coach instead of a traditional coordinator into the top spot route. Cutler could run this offense, and do it well. Mind you, just an opinion, nothing more.
January 2, 2009

2:44 p.m.

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liesandpropaganda08 writes:

Mike Shanahan did not want this. Cutler was far from a mistake, so why wouldn't Mike want to continue molding him? It doesn't make sense.

Since Shanny is gone, IMO, we need to change our offensive philosophy and move away from the west coast offense. Don't abandon the short passing game completely, but mix in more double moves and deep routes for our receivers. I would like to see an offense in Denver like the Pats had last year. We have the weapons to do it.

Does anyone know how much cap space we have this year?
January 2, 2009

2:53 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

liesandpropaganda08, I Googled it and someone mentioned that we never reached the 116 million this season and 2009 it is being raised to 125 million. I'll do some more research.
January 2, 2009

2:59 p.m.

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GJrodburner writes:

Cutler6, all options must be explored...that's called doing homework by us laymen, and extending the possibility of NOT overlooking the right man by those in HR. I really can't say if taking a college coach is the most prudent or non-prudent route. I'd like to see what Pete Carroll could do in the pro game again, given the right circumstances. I personally don't care for Bob Stoops, but as for Urban Meyer, I think this person has the demeanor to take on the N.F.L. and win. It may not be in his current style, but Urban Meyer could lend another flavor to the N.F.L. coaching fraternity with his views of offensive passing in the game we all love to talk about. I know your views, they were all in caps, but man you've got to do the legwork and forget what happened with all of the other flame-outs. Re-treads are dangerous, either on a truck or in a coaching selection, and I think that Denver has to look at all possible angles of this given situation...college coaches, DC's, OC's, retreads too. This is a lot like waiting for the birth of a child, nerve-wracking to say the least. As my blogging brothers/sisters have pointed out to me on various occasions, you have to give who ever is chosen a chance, even if it is a college coach moving up to the big dance.
January 2, 2009

3:05 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

liesandpropaganda08, found it.
Salary Cap: $129.9M
Team Salary: $90.5M
Cap Room: $39.4M
January 2, 2009

3:17 p.m.

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GJrodburner writes:

LAP'08, I think that the West Coast Offense, if it is to continue to grow, then the initial DNA (dink and dunk when the ground game is stalling, or non-existent, TE use in the seams of a given coverage, checkdown operations within the qb reads and the WR reads, including branch route assignments, etc.) will have to mutate within the spread offense. Defenses have caught up to certain styles of the West Coast Offense. Unless you stay with the idea that you see the WCO completely dead, why would you want to go away from what still does work in the N.F.L. by the Broncs? As much as I hate to admit it, I liked what Turner was doing with his running backs with a maximum scheme of blocking then letting them flood out into the patterns, but only after they "blocked" not "chipped" on a given assignment. This allowed the TE, and the WR's to run multiple move and go routes. The WCO will have to adapt to stay relative to offensive scheming in the N.F.L. Given all the down news in relation to the Broncos acquiring Bill Cowher, and no I'm not done in exploring any opportunities with Steve Spagnuolo or that ilk, why not look at who has the most creative form of offense in the collegiate ranks as of now. In my opinion that would be Urban Meyer. Could he change the WCO to a point that it would be almost impossible to defend? Hell if I know. Maybe Pete Carroll could implement his brand of football back into the pro game again, and allow for his type of WCO to be implemented in Denver. IMO the WCO is still relevant and vital to having a rugged game plan against the 3-4 and hybrid D's like that.
January 2, 2009

3:20 p.m.

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liesandpropaganda08 writes:

Dynamicdave- Thanks man. That is a pretty significant amount of money for the Broncos to make some moves this offseason. I didn't think we had anything close to that, so maybe we can sign our young guys to long term deals and land a big fish or two.
January 2, 2009

3:21 p.m.

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Cwillyrun1 writes:

Rex Ryan wouldn't be a good fit in Denver. He's suited better as a defensive coordinator than as a head coach, IMO.

Cutler6, just to prove that you're wrong about college coaches....... I'll name just one and leave you with it. Jimmy Johnson of Dallas. Took over after Landry and built the team into a 3 time Super Bowl winner. College coaches are capable, it's only a matter of finding the right one. The Atlanta Falcons of last year is a poor example, even if it conveniently suits your position. It doesn't stand with the facts though.

GJ, about the wildcat....... the issue was talked about before Miami and the Pats played the second time this season, on the NFL Network and ESPN. The Pats were not caught by surprise a second time and easily handled the Dolphins. So the talk for the next week was about the wildcat and how at this point it's not a surprise to any defense and just like the wishbone, defenses are too fast for gimmick offenses and the wildcat went to the wayside for the most part. Now when Miami's offense is mentioned, we hear about Chad Pennington and not a gimmick offense. The word on both networks was that the wildcat was losing viability.
January 2, 2009

3:28 p.m.

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Jubei writes:

GJrodburner, while I think that Meyer is an intriguing choice, I think he's the type of guy that wants to stay in the college ranks for a while.

I was going to Utah when he took Alex Smith and the boys all the way to a BCS bowl game. Of course, after that he took the job at Florida. I loved what the guy did for Utah, and I think he is just about the perfect college coach. But I recall him saying that he much preferred the tradition and rivalry of the college game over that of the pros.

Never say never, but if Urban goes anywhere, I think it might be Notre Dame, where he has a history, and might be looking for the next big challenge.

I'd like to see Spagnuolo, Ryan or maybe Frazier from the Vikings. But I won't hold my breath waiting for Bowlen to call me looking for advice...
January 2, 2009

3:36 p.m.

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GJrodburner writes:

With the way that the defensive player has now evolved into a better player on the field than his offensive counter parts, now they have put the defense on the upper hand in all that is going on out on the field of play. Any way to loosen up coverage, slow down recognition, delay pursuit, and give a mental hemmorage to DC's will take a team committed to variations of a given offensive game plan. Has the wild-cat lost viability, yes. Given the need to have a diverse attack, you had better not limit the scope of what you can employ in your game plan. From that view point, it should be an advantage to have it in your game plan. What happened with NE and the 'fins was that it was the second time around. You don't think that BB and his staff weren't going to be ready for the wild-cat on a second go around? Viability is what you need to accomplish to win. A day in and day out offense, I would have to agree with you that the wild-cat cannot be your bread and butter. I'm curious as hell to see what the 'fins will do with this "fad" in the play off game with Baltimore. As of right now, it is an offensive idea that was an old one that became new again. Given the options it can allow for, why deny it?
January 2, 2009

3:40 p.m.

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liesandpropaganda08 writes:

GJ- I never said the west coast offense is completely dead. What I said was we needed to change our philosophy and focos "deeper" down field. The west coast offense is made up of short routes to compensate for the running game. I do not think we can do better than Shanny did with that offense. Again, don't abandon the short pass game completely, just don't let that dictate our offense.

Urban Meyer? Say it aint so GJ. No college coaches. Please. We are too CLOSE to start reaching, and that's just what it would be. I'm not saying Meyer doesn't deserve a shot.......
Just not in Denver {;^)
January 2, 2009

3:42 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

liesandpropaganda08, also keep in mind that Denver was going to talk to players about renegotiation of their contracts. Lets see who's "all about the money" and "who is about the team and the ring". This will free up some money. Jay already said he would do it. They need to talk to Champ.
January 2, 2009

4:12 p.m.

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liesandpropaganda08 writes:

Dynamicdave- I couldn't agree more. We have something special in Denver on offense. Even the haters, if they know football, know that. We are the Baltimore Ravens in reverse. We know what we need to fix and with a leader like Jay that is willing to step up and make sacrifices for the TEAM, there are no limits! Now, bring in a good coach and let's spend some of that money and fix the D.

I will support the coach they bring in. Even Urban Meyer.

Go Broncos!
January 2, 2009

5:37 p.m.

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bronco_fan_no_matter_how_painful writes:

roundthebend...I love the way you think...I guess great minds think alike...wow imagine Big John in charge of the personnel for this franchise, imagine Big John being the one to tell a player that they get to be a part of the franchise that HE made, that HE built, that HE is still the face of...yep, roundthebend has it all figured out...

John Elway - GM/VP of the Broncos

Steve Spagnuolo - Head Coach (my contribution)

Go Broncos
January 2, 2009

7:47 p.m.

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GJrodburner writes:

Dynamicdave do you have a gut feel that the Broncos would use the existing cap space plus some renogitiated contracts to bring in a coach like Cowher or are you looking at the cap space to get the defensive FA's to turn around the D in one season?
January 2, 2009

8:28 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

GJrodburner, to turn the D around by getting quality players. Cowher will not happen, simply because he wants total control. By the time they got the players to reduce their salaries, We should already have a coach, long before. Time is important and Denver needs to make these decisions quickly. Negotiate the players salary, after we get a coach. To ask the players to give up $$ without a reason for doing it (a plan of the future, so to speak, which can't be given unless they know who the coach will be and what he wants to do) is unreasonable. It's like living in Missouri (the "show me" state). Show them the future 1st, then ask them to give up $$ to make it happen. Don't know what they will do for talent, yet? Depends if Shanahan goes back to work? If he does, it frees up a lot of money.
January 2, 2009

10:07 p.m.

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ORBroncoFan53 writes:

Jubie, huge props to your Utes, thats why we play the games!!!!! I said It yesterday and I will say It again today Bowlen needs to talk to Whittingham this guy can flat out coach. This was total domination from start to finish, and that defense destroyed the Tide. No disrespect intended to the Utah players, but could you imagine if this guy coached at a University that pulled in the best High School players around. I am not an Alum nor do I have any ties to the UTES but I have watched them play a few times this year and Coach Whittingham always has his guys prepared.This guy is a diamond in the rough and I'm afraid that he won't be around long.Mr. Bowlen give this man a call!!!!!!!!!!!
January 2, 2009

10:23 p.m.

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RoloFan writes:

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Rolofan, if Atlanta can do what they did with the players and situation they had or if the Dolphins can go from 1-15 to 11-5 why can't a new coach do the same in Denver?"

Umm, because the Dolphins brought in a KNOWN winner (Bill Parcells) and didn't just rely on a newby at head coach?

Because Atlanta defensive end John Abraham stayed healthy for 16 games and led the league at his position with 16 1/2 sacks? Because they made some great offensive draft picks at QB and on the OL? Because Lawyer Malloy can still play defense?

Not saying it isn't possible for Bowlen to make that lucky pick at head coach. But even the Cowboys struggled after they let Tom Landry go. And the Bronx need a major talent upgrade on defense. That ain't no 6 month project over at Dove Valley.
January 2, 2009

10:40 p.m.

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pmadd writes:

We don't know that Cowher requires total control until Bowlen talks to him. This is an assumption that everyone is making. It is also an assumption (although hinted at by Bowlen) that is he totally unwilling to give more control. From what I have heard, Denver is exactly the opportunity that Cowher would be interested in - chance to win quickly (unlike Cleveland or Detroit) and with no GM in place yet so he'd at least have the opportunity to influence who is brought in if he were to be brought in as coach by Bowlen.

The problem that Cowher has is that he has a very limited number of options since most teams that would give him total control are desparate (ala Detroit and Clevelend) and are not likely to be winning anything for a while - not a situation that I'd think would be attractive to him. On the other hand, other teams will already have a GM in place where he would not have total control but where he would have a chance to win again quickly. Denver is the best opportunity he's going to have of getting the best of both worlds. I'd think that Bowlen might be able to bring someone in like a Sundquist and then also bring in Cowher where he would have more influence over personnel decisions. This might be acceptable to Cowher if the Denver opportunity is attractive enough to him which it may be. Bowlen won't know unless he reaches out to Cowher first.
January 2, 2009

10:46 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

RoloFan, I both agree and disagree with your analogy. Yes, Parcells helped by aquiring talent, but Chad Pennington (the talent) is the biggest reason that Miami turned it around. As for Atlanta, I don't say their DE was the only reason. He didn't get any sacks on Cutler against a rookie in Clady and as I recall, Denver beat Atlanta? Again, I would say that Ryan made the difference. He also made ROTY. I feel Denver can do wonders with 6 months. Our O is already there. The D can't possibly be any worse then it was this last season. It can only get better. Therefore, I feel Denver will get better. Denver wasn't 1-15, they were 8-8. They can turn a .500 ball club into contenders, easily. They just need to draft smart, hit the FA smart and most importantly, get a defensive minded coach to put the D together.
January 3, 2009

8:04 a.m.

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RoloFan writes:

Dynamicdave, who was the driving force behind acquiring Chad Pennington? Suppose Bill Parcells had something to do with it?
January 3, 2009

8:31 a.m.

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gr8fun4me writes:

Bring in Ken Norton Jr. The guy has been on three winning Superbowl teams and has been a winner at UCLA. He's currently working for USC for Pete Carroll.
January 3, 2009

12:08 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

RoloFan, my post ackowledged that. But, Parcells is not on the field, nor is he coaching them. Chad is the one making it happen on the field. He's the one scoring points. He is the biggest reason (player/talent-wise) that the Fins are where they are at.
January 3, 2009

12:14 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

Meant "acknowledged". Typo.
January 5, 2009

7:58 a.m.

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MarcoPolo writes:

Careful there, Dave. Spelling errors means you're not a real Bronco fan.

Funny how someone posts a simple name as a coaching candidate and suddenly your panties are in a bunch. So I'm bashing? Wow, there's the pot calling the kettle black. Keep in mind you did piggyback on another response from another poster just to add your cheap shot. What a tough guy.

I've read your posts too, Dave. Served in all branches of the military, trained Shaolin monks, saved the world on many occasion, yadda yadda yadda... Is that supposed to scare everyone? What does that have to do with a REAL Broncos discussion? Methinks with the infinite amounts of time you have to judge, belittle, and reprimand everyone's postings on this board that you're already writing from your own padded room.

In addition, I never recall once that I laid into YOU on YOUR choices for head coach. Everyone loves Spags, yeah okay. If he's your man, great. As for Chan being the head coach, people forget the job he did when he was in Denver and the three Superbowls he went to.

Then again, only a real Broncos fan would know that.

I'm not going to waste any more time on the head coaching argument, since mentioning <that guy>'s name makes your blood boil. I'll let you do the research if you're so inclined. Besides, I believe it's time for them to give you your meds.

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Search for Broncos head coach in full gear

Three interviews get set up; feelers are out across country

By Jeff Legwold, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)

Published January 1, 2009 at 1:47 p.m.

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