Bill Ayers coming to CU to defend Ward Churchill
Ex-Weatherman to appear on behalf of fired professor
By Lance Vaillancourt, Colorado Daily
Published February 20, 2009 at 8:21 a.m.
Zak Wood © Colorado Daily
Nam Fernandez, left, and Sean Daly,right, hold up signs supporting fired CU professor Ward Churchill, Thursday afternoon, Feb. 19, 2009 outside of the UMC.
Photo by Zak Wood © Colorado Daily
Jake Rocamora, left, receives a flyer advertising the event "Forbidden Education and the Rise of Neo-McCarthyism" which will take place on March 5 in the Glenn Miller Ballroom from Aaron Smith.
Photo by Chicago Tribune
William Ayers
Photo by Associated Press/2005
Ward Churchill
BOULDER — Two of academia’s most controversial left-wing figures — ex-Weatherman Bill Ayers and fired University of Colorado professor Ward Churchill — will share a stage on the Boulder campus next month.
Three CU student groups recruited Ayers, a lightning rod of controversy during the 2008 presidential election, to speak at an academic-freedom rally just days before Churchill’s lawsuit against CU goes to trial.
“What we’re trying to show with this event is that Ward Churchill is not alone in this,” said Aaron Smith, a recent CU graduate and member of Students for True Academic Freedom.
The March 5 event, “Forbidden Education and the Rise of Neo-McCarthyism,” will be held at the Glenn Miller Ballroom, and also will feature author and activist Derrick Jensen. Co-sponsors include the Student Environmental Action Coalition and 180 Degree Shift at the 11th Hour.
Churchill is scheduled to participate in an audience question-and-answer session.
“These speakers are going to put (Churchill’s) case into the political context of an attack on academic freedom on a national scale,” Smith said.
CU fired Churchill, an ethnic studies professor, in 2007 for academic misconduct after concluding he plagiarized and lied about historical facts in his writings.
Churchill, however, alleges he lost his job over a controversial essay about the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, in which he referred to World Trade Center workers as “little Eichmanns,” a reference to Nazi Adolf Eichmann, the so-called “architect of the Holocaust.”
He sued the university to get his job back; that case goes to trial in Denver on March 9.
Neither Churchill nor Ayers could be reached for comment Thursday.
CU spokesman Bronson Hilliard emphasized that Churchill was fired only after an extensive review of his academic work by more than 20 tenured faculty members from CU and other institutions.
IF YOU GO
What: "Forbidden Education and the Rise of Neo-McCarthyism," featuring Bill Ayers and Ward Churchill
What: 7 p.m. March 5
Where: Glenn Miller Ballroom, University Memorial Center, CU campus, Boulder
Cost: The event is free for CU students. Tickets are $5 in advance for community members, and there will be a $6 to $10 sliding scale at the door. Tickets are available at the UMC Connection, local King Soopers outlets and TicketsWest.com. Organizers says free tickets also are available to "activist community members" who e-mail 180info@gmail.com.
www.180degreeshift.org
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February 20, 2009
8:32 a.m.
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MavrickG writes:
The terrorist Bill Ayers should be in jail for bombing US buildings and who cares what Churhill has to say? This guy's true colors have already been shown, why would anyone want to pay to hear him? He probably stole the contents from another writer.
February 20, 2009
8:34 a.m.
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flyboyjoe writes:
A match made in heaven - may they both come down with a gastric virus the day of this lovely presentation.
February 20, 2009
8:38 a.m.
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Sundog writes:
Oh, boy! Frick and Frack, the two spoiled babies. Come to cry at the breast of the great anarchist-producing machine.
They should rent a hall and charge admission, then no one would have to listen to their whiney tripe.
February 20, 2009
8:39 a.m.
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Sundog writes:
Sliding scale? They're taking a page from the current mortgage "solution." Maybe they are having some attendees pay other's admission. It's the new American way.
February 20, 2009
8:39 a.m.
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leavemealone writes:
Maybe Obama should share the stage also....
February 20, 2009
8:54 a.m.
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MBR693 writes:
Only the Left would consider CU's response to Churchill's lies and plagiarism to be equivalent to McCarthyism. If your message is one of hatred and intolerance then you will get an audience.
February 20, 2009
8:56 a.m.
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FCZ writes:
Churchill was found guilty of deliberate false assertions, misrepresentation of sources, and plagiarism.
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February 20, 2009
8:57 a.m.
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Mangone writes:
A stand up member of this nation like Obama has nothing in commen with Churchill, the King of Plagiarism.
February 20, 2009
8:58 a.m.
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Mangone writes:
*Common
February 20, 2009
8:58 a.m.
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elkman writes:
leavemealone
This is not about Obama. And no, I am not a Democrat. But get serious. He is the president. Give the guy a chance. I have been a Republican all my life, but lets face it, we are facing some hard times ahead because of the Republican party. Let Obama try to get things going again.
As far as churchill goes....just another baby trying to get attention again. What a loser, and a coward.
February 20, 2009
8:59 a.m.
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mytwosense writes:
Churchill's case is an interesting one from a legal point of view, and it's going to take a very wise judge to rule lawfully on it. I think it's obvious that Churchill's essay drew attention to his work, which then triggered the investigation into whether or not he plagiarized.
However, I remember when all this happened comparing his work to what they said he plagiarized. And yes, it did appear to me he plagiarized - heavily, at that.
It's like a cop unlawfully pulling someone over based on their race, but then discovering that person is driving drunk. A technicality could get that person off, even though they're guilty.
February 20, 2009
8:59 a.m.
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toocool writes:
Yee Gads two un-flushables sharing the same restroom..those "activists" just can't out do each other .....
February 20, 2009
9:02 a.m.
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HoosierGuy writes:
Students for True Academic Freedom
"Forbidden Education and the Rise of Neo-McCarthyism,"
Have fun playing hippie now kids because the real world is just outside the door. Out there you have to put up or shut up.
February 20, 2009
9:03 a.m.
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bph writes:
2 birds, 1 stone
February 20, 2009
9:05 a.m.
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FCZ writes:
Would You Join Santelli's "Chicago Tea Party?"
http://www.cnbc.com/id/29283701
February 20, 2009
9:05 a.m.
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Buckwheat writes:
Nice allocation of public funds...Next time you want some more tax money for the university, please let me know... They are going to pay Ayres and Churchill how much for this little get together???
February 20, 2009
9:05 a.m.
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GunnyBob writes:
Poor CU. Their reputation is now complete with the self-proclaimed terrorist bomb-building instructor and fake specops LRRP hunter-killer commando and fake Indian being visited by Dear Leader's mentor, business partner, fundraiser and colleague, and bona fide terrorist Bill Ayers.
Perfect.
February 20, 2009
9:07 a.m.
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ghoax writes:
two peas in a pod...thing is that they represent what 1/2 of America clearly shows they believe....pathetic
February 20, 2009
9:08 a.m.
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stevieray54 writes:
Boulder!!! Kinda makes me ashamed to be a Colorado native. The crap they come up with just makes me want to PUKE!!! Higher education. Yeah right. Educating rich kids on how to destroy the USofA. Hope there's a wacko out there to give back what Ayers deserves.
February 20, 2009
9:13 a.m.
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cfk writes:
Makes me ashamed to say I'm from Colorado.
February 20, 2009
9:17 a.m.
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FCZ writes:
Ward Churchill would do himself some good to express a profound apology to people he has offended and misled.
He should also come clean about his appropriated American Indian identity.
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February 20, 2009
9:21 a.m.
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FlyfishDude52 writes:
GunnyBob - Your post is a good beginning at the famous James Michener run-on sentence and quite accurate depiction of the situation.
As a supporter of our 1st Amendment rights these guys have a perfect right to air their beliefs. I would hope the assebly on hand would be much like "If a tree falls in the forrest & there's nobody there to hear it, does it make a noise?" I'm somewhat surprised that they don't have an emmisary from the ACLU on hand for this debacle.
I can't come up with any, even as a far stretch, parallel how McCarthyism could possibly be involved. It may be a witch hunt, but, then, we have two absolutely certifiable witches to deal with. Ayers as a criminal and churchill, who should be convicted as a criminal. Boulder & CU look worse everytime one of these whack-job nutcases opens their mouth.
February 20, 2009
9:23 a.m.
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freespeech34 writes:
The Peoples Republic of Boulder. They have to be dancing in the streets with our current downward rush to a socialistic state. Will they invite Hugo Chavez also? Maybe Barrack will fly out with Joe to spread their carbon footprints!
February 20, 2009
9:24 a.m.
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dannylee5280 writes:
WE ALL KNOW CHURCHILL WAS AND IS A PROVEN LIAR!!
THROW A TERRORIST IN THE MIX EXTREMELY VOLATLE!!
February 20, 2009
9:26 a.m.
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Sgt_Pepper_7_62 writes:
How come both these guys still have a heartbeat?? BPH, good idea.........7.62mm...........
February 20, 2009
9:29 a.m.
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dilligaf writes:
cfk writes:
If one man that is not even from Colorado makes you ashamed to be from Colorado I say you need to move some where else. I'm 59 yrs. old and have lived here all my live. I have seen a lot of changes and things happen here. But I'm still damn proud to call Colorado my home.
February 20, 2009
9:29 a.m.
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MBR693 writes:
mytwosense writes:
"Churchill's case is an interesting one from a legal point of view, and it's going to take a very wise judge to rule lawfully on it. I think it's obvious that Churchill's essay drew attention to his work, which then triggered the investigation into whether or not he plagiarized."
"It's like a cop unlawfully pulling someone over based on their race, but then discovering that person is driving drunk. A technicality could get that person off, even though they're guilty."
I don't agree. Students and faculty should not need a warrant in order to investigate whether the writings of a college professor or either reasonable or truthful. A person whose writings are in the public domain must always be prepared for public scrutiny. Colleges must never become a safe haven for those willingly and knowingly perpetuating lies or acting with academic fraud.
February 20, 2009
9:30 a.m.
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HastenForward writes:
Will this spectacle be open to the public? Maybe I can throw a shoe!
February 20, 2009
9:32 a.m.
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FCZ writes:
"Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents, that's where it's really at."
--Bill Ayers, Weather Underground, 1970
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February 20, 2009
9:35 a.m.
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leavemealone writes:
I like the 2 birds / 1 stone thingy that bph suggested
February 20, 2009
9:39 a.m.
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The_Punnisher writes:
I'd like to hand BOTH the same type of device that went off in a BofA building just across the street when I was walking near downtown Berkeley many years ago....
A similar type of device was used in the PG&E substation a block from my residence around the same time....
Some types have proven that our civilization would be better off without them. Ayers is one of them.
I owe him...Big Time....
February 20, 2009
9:40 a.m.
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Oh_Wise_One writes:
The Left has distorted McCarthy and the Red Scare for so long that the lies have become truth. While McCarthy did go overboard, he was correct in his analysis that there were genuine Communists in Hollywood trying to shape our view of that insidious ideology.
What sounds familiar? oh... just like now and the Left spin on Hugo Chavez or Fidel Castro.
February 20, 2009
9:52 a.m.
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Who_Me writes:
Wow, which is worse? The incessant whining by Churchill or the incessant "I'm not gay, well, maybe, kind of, sort of, it's complicated" whining from Haggard? Or the RMN for continuing to give them any attention in the first place? I wish they would share a cup of STFU.
February 20, 2009
9:55 a.m.
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Motherearthisjustdirt writes:
When Christ returns, it will be to undo the evil done by the new triumvirate - Obama, Reid and Pelosi.
Yes, we hate evil... the first thing Obama did was to widen the murdering of the unborn. Pelosi wants birth control... just like Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood wanted to provide abortion services to limit the minorities. How long do you think the waco environmentalists will want forced abortions like the Chinese, or to limit lifespans like Soyent Green?
For those people need to remember that "Mother" earth is just dirt.
February 20, 2009
9:56 a.m.
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Motherearthisjustdirt writes:
Ah! CU, Berkely east - the hotbed of fascism - we have to remember that the Nazis were the National Socialist Party and look what that got the world. Ayers is a would be Fascist and Churchill is as anti-(Constitutional) American as they come. academic freedom? If we are paying a huge portion of the cost of running the university system, why should they have academic freedom or jobs for life when they are against everything our Republic and Constiution stands for? Their only goal is to create a new National Socialist Party.
Would I deny them to have an opportunity to speak out and assemble? Absolutely not. But, at a school they build and finance themselves. Why should we be paying for them to tear apart the best country man has ever had?
February 20, 2009
9:58 a.m.
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the_ripper writes:
The Sitting Bulls!hit Show....ONE NIGHT ONLY!!!!!!!
Special guest...(former) terrorist Bill Ayers.
Wardo should write an essay that says Ayers really didn't do all those bad things...oh wait...someone ELSE should write it and Sitting Bullsh!t can copy it and claim he wrote it.
February 20, 2009
9:59 a.m.
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freespeech34 writes:
bph has the right idea!
February 20, 2009
9:59 a.m.
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The_Punnisher writes:
stevieray54 writes:
Hope there's a wacko out there to give back what Ayers deserves.
We are on the same page. Ayers needs a bit of instant karma.
February 20, 2009
10:01 a.m.
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localyokal writes:
Just when I thought the perception of CU was starting to recover
February 20, 2009
10:01 a.m.
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NoKoolAid writes:
I smell a rally in Boulder
February 20, 2009
10:05 a.m.
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freespeech34 writes:
Maybe the CIA will whack Ayers for Obama to stop further embarrassment. Remember Vince Foster? Hmmmm.
February 20, 2009
10:10 a.m.
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NoKoolAid writes:
Where were they meeting Barack Obama High?
February 20, 2009
10:11 a.m.
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tjpatriot writes:
"two birds - one stone"
Although on a gut level many would agree with this sentiment, the country is better off by letting them speak for a variety of reasons. Aside from Free Speech and Civility reasons, there are pragmatic reasons. For instance, if they get national coverage many normal people will become aware of it, and solidify their revulsion of the extreme leftist doctrines that Churchill and Ayers represent. The Obama administration may even have to come out with a statement distancing themselves from these doctrines. This may in turn give the pendulum more impetus when it finally starts swinging the other way. Their influence over those ignorant of history will be greatly outweighed by the revulsion they cause in those with normal American mindsets, IMHO.
As far as CU goes, I can't believe it would do anything to help their reputation, future enrollment, or future endowments.
Let them speak.
February 20, 2009
10:13 a.m.
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HSTOWEL writes:
Unbelievable! Churchill go away! You are a liar. Your entire adult life has been a lie and you have disgraced the university. Ayers, stay in Illinois. You should be in jail as you are a proven and admitted terrorist who also has no qualms with telling lies.
February 20, 2009
10:16 a.m.
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Beergut writes:
I think Churchill's comments were poorly put, but had more than an once of truth behind them even if Churchill at time appears unsteady. Ayers is a ego through and through. He overstates his importance of his past actions, and you folks give what he wants: attention. Still this should be a fun event, even if you don't make it inside.
February 20, 2009
10:29 a.m.
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303Centennial writes:
Ward Churchill is a liar and betting on that bringing a domestic terroist into the picutre will win over the far left nuts. Perhaps Ritter himself will fall for this crap and give Churchill his job back.
February 20, 2009
10:30 a.m.
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B300 writes:
Maybe we will get lucky and someone will beat the h&ll out of the both of them. The Boulder police cant catch anyone so in my opinion there would be no victims. Both of those guys are poop balls!
February 20, 2009
10:33 a.m.
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Iceman7 writes:
bph,
simple and effective.
Lets not insult Birds..
How about?
2 POSs and 1 stone,
February 20, 2009
10:41 a.m.
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BUCKSHOTT2006 writes:
Ah, yes the sixties-
1,2,3,4 We don't want your fu&kin' Ward!
Sound familiar, Bill Ayers?
February 20, 2009
10:43 a.m.
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Sundog writes:
Beergut: An ounce? In what, an ocean of lies? What, pray tell, specifically was truth in his spew? These clowns come and take a dump on truth and veracity in the very halls that purport to be the highest level of education in the land.
And there is no voice on campus to be heard against them. If such is found, the owner is told to leave. They cannot stand examination and inquiry. To oppose them in the midst of the "illuminati" is to invite expulsion. All while they prance and trumpet the First Amendment. Later, they plead the 5th.
High tuition and low national income will bring change to these coddled "eggheads."
February 20, 2009
10:51 a.m.
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Buckwheat writes:
Of all the speakers you could pay to come and speak to our kids, THESE TWO BONEHEADS are the best you can come up with??? I hope the Alum takes note of this the next time you go asking for donations.
February 20, 2009
10:56 a.m.
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buzzman writes:
Leaavemealone had it right-maybe obama should join them and then the tooth fairy can turn them into maggots and when it gets warm all three will fly away and the world will be bettter that they are gone for good--maybe run into some dieldrin along the way
February 20, 2009
11:09 a.m.
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Cowboy63 writes:
Two washed-up losers who couldn't get a real job if they tried.
They deserve each other.
February 20, 2009
11:18 a.m.
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CrazyJoe59 writes:
Two of the biggest P's O. S. I can think of. I would like to see them in front of our military running serpentine movements!!
February 20, 2009
11:20 a.m.
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BHS1976 writes:
Dear RMN, Do you get direct cash payments from the fringe left for the free advertising you provide to these two cirminals? What if it was a clinic bomber and a born again Christian having a meeting, would you be providing the free advertising? You don't have to look too far to see why you are going out of business, the pathetic thing is you actually can't see the cliff you are getting ready to swan dive off.
This is a non-story that would be ignored by most except the unwashed in Boulder had you not used your rag to advertise thier tirades against the man.
February 20, 2009
11:20 a.m.
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Fooster writes:
No comment on Ayers. Ward Churchill is a make believe indian who's been pulling the wool over peoples eye's for years. It's shame he was put in a position of trust within the university.
As for adding in Obama - give me a break. A good man, one who loves his country, with good intentions. Time will tell if he can pull things off. I understand it's difficult for the right wing nuts to get a handle on rebuilding our country but it's an effort worth supporting.
February 20, 2009
11:26 a.m.
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CrazyJoe59 writes:
"Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents, that's where it's really at."
--Bill Ayers, Weather Underground, 1970
...really... this says it all this guy needs to be in jail or worse
February 20, 2009
11:27 a.m.
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NoKoolAid writes:
Its time for a new PTA. Parent Teacher Activists. We need to start sitting in the classrooms and standing on the principals desks. Every age Every Grade its time to get our children back. Start demanding that they stop feeding our kids a bunch of vile crap like these two are spewing.
February 20, 2009
11:35 a.m.
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T1anda writes:
B-but Bill Ayers(American terrorist) is just a neighbor who initiated Obama into the Chicago political scene. Ayers is just a good guy who has NEVER done any harm....
Sure hope the stench can be removed from CU when this disgraceful worm finally leaves town.
February 20, 2009
11:36 a.m.
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kilpatrick88 writes:
Way to go CU. So proud of my Alma Mater. They allow a terrorist to support a plagiarist in the name of 'diversity'. Would they allow Anne Coulter or anyone from the far right the same opportunity.
Diversity my Arse. Nothing but liberal bias from a state funded university. No more money from me
February 20, 2009
11:44 a.m.
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ou8one2 writes:
Remember this the next time politicians and educators start whining about the states Univeristy's not having enough money to compete.
February 20, 2009
11:49 a.m.
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BurningChrome writes:
"2 birds one stone"
Wow, some of you people really disgust me. You disagree with someone so your solution is to assasinate them?
Really? No, really?
And you call yourselves Americans?
Don't misunderstand me, I do not like what Churchill has to say, and frankly I am REALLY tired of seeing him in the news. But I don't desire to kill him!
Again, some of you people are hateful individuals. I bet you go to church on Sunday. Dare I say your savior Jesus would be ashamed!
February 20, 2009
11:52 a.m.
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Spotcheck writes:
Don't you dare consider reinstating Ward Churchill. This guy might be capable of teaching something, but he knows nothing that he will be allowed to teach my children. Frankly, I wonder how Ward ever got to teach at the University level in the first place.
February 20, 2009
11:57 a.m.
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frontpage writes:
The issue really isn't Ward (the white trash injun wannabe) and Ayers (if is wasn't for Obama I'm a distant memory). Rather the focus should be the on three(3) student organizations. How does a recent CU graduate still be part of a student (college) funded organization? What other platforms do these organizations support. Maybe someone at the RMNews can do an expose on these groups (any student group) and just by "reporting" and not editorializing the facts they could show the taxpayers and the regents that these groups are far from ever being straightup with each other and especially the public and the university as a whole.
February 20, 2009
11:58 a.m.
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COLibertarian writes:
I for one am very glad to see these 2 coming to Colorado to speak! I want to hear more from these 2 and those that side with these 2 more often. Truly I do. 1. If for nothing else supporting our 1st Amendment rights to the fullest. 2. The more we see this type of talk, the more we can discuss this type of talk, will hopefully shine a light on what it really is and what it stands for.
After a full diet of this for awhile, it will not be those that oppose these 2 men, but it will be the supporters of these guys that are trying to shut them up.
Shine the light......Big azz spotlight.....
February 20, 2009
12:01 p.m.
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kilpatrick88 writes:
Anyone planning on protesting this meeting of mental midgets? Let me know and I'll join you.
It's time for the silent, moderate majority, to get loud and confront those obnoxious cooks on the far left (and right).
February 20, 2009
12:01 p.m.
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COLibertarian writes:
AND give them a microphone and a TV camera!
February 20, 2009
12:01 p.m.
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Truth writes:
This murdering terrorist's ties to Barack Hussein Obama didn't hurt Obama, I guess Ayers is feeling his oats and thinks he can help out every lunatic in a position of power. This would be entertaining if it weren't so pathetic.
February 20, 2009
12:04 p.m.
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the_ripper writes:
They can speak, I don't have a problem with that.
But anyone who tries to deny Ayers is a worthless scumbag terrorist, and Wardo is a liar and plaigarist lives in a fantasy world.
February 20, 2009
12:05 p.m.
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The_Punnisher writes:
BurningChrome:
"Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents, that's where it's really at."
--Bill Ayers, Weather Underground, 1970 "
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Bill Ayers wanted to assassinate ME and d@mn near did it that day in Berkeley.
Let the money support people that don't condone TERRORIST behavior. That especially applies to the people supporting the free ( to KILL people ) speech of Bill Ayers...
February 20, 2009
12:05 p.m.
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PaleoConservative writes:
They're both veritable limbs of Satan (I mean that in a figurative sense, since I'm an atheist). They both favor killing innocent Americans. But only one of them had an Obama rally in his household.
February 20, 2009
12:16 p.m.
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rakofgor writes:
This two birds, one stone analogy doesn't work for me. You don't kill sweet defenseless birds with stones. That's what shotguns are for. Stones are for killing adulteresses in Iran and other sharia theocracies.
February 20, 2009
12:18 p.m.
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February 20, 2009
12:23 p.m.
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davies writes:
Heck yes we need to reinstate Ward Churchill! We need his reasoned voice of conscience, telling us all how we are "little Eichman" nazis, because we earn a living by producing goods and services for the American economy.
And how is Churchill supposed to be able to condemn us, if he doesn't have his comfortable, well-salaried, tenured position at CU, which is ultimately supported by... uhhh... the American economy?
February 20, 2009
12:29 p.m.
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kilpatrick88 writes:
Now_You_Know,
By diverting the subject to 'Palin, McCain and Rush', you must obviously support Churchill, Ayers and their message.
How can anyone, in good conscience, support and not condone these guys? Their actions and sentiments are ridiculous.
February 20, 2009
12:30 p.m.
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leatherneck writes:
People that defend Ward Churchill are as Crazy as he is.
They disgust me and most of America........
"Churchill has said that not all of the victims of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks were innocent"
Churchill later clarified his "little Eichmanns" comment, saying he applied it "only to those described as 'technicians.' Thus, it was obviously not directed to the children, janitors, food service workers, firemen and random passers-by killed in the 9-11 attack."
February 20, 2009
12:30 p.m.
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JSeifert writes:
AIM and Weathermen is that not like KKK and NAZIS or Hammas and Muslim brotherhood all should be wiped from the face of the earth. All terrorist all Anti-American and all welcome in Boulder. The state should use ED and level the whole place for a park.
February 20, 2009
12:42 p.m.
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Willy writes:
Their next appearance will be at the reniasance festival as the replacements for puke and snot.
Just Spew It
February 20, 2009
12:43 p.m.
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Zim writes:
Good job, RMN, for once again providing Ward Churchill even MORE free P.R.! Or does the guy pay you? At this point, why not make him your mascot? I have never seen a figure get so much attention from the Rocky Mountain News who didn't deserve an iota of it. Let's make this clear, RMN:
1. Churchill's actions are not headline news.
2. Churchill's actions are not news period.
3. Ward Churchill's "intellect" and blatherings on paper aren't worth the time to even yawn at. The man is irrelevant.
4. People are sick of Ward Churchill and consistently ponder why he is news.
5. Quit giving the man free promotion at every step of his useless life and career.
February 20, 2009
12:44 p.m.
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COLibertarian writes:
For the record I do not support these guys. But to allow these and those in the same camp to speak and get their messages out, the more people will realize what they truly stand for.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer!
February 20, 2009
12:44 p.m.
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Now_You_Know writes:
kilpatrick88
Nice try but no way. Dont care for those two clowns!
Who wants a slice of Neocon Cry Pie?
February 20, 2009
12:54 p.m.
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HankReardon writes:
Ward... (yawn w/ butt scratch) Churchwho?
February 20, 2009
12:57 p.m.
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freespeech34 writes:
Hey BurningChrome, don't you read the newspapers or listen to NBC? Jesus is passe, Obama's the new messiah.
February 20, 2009
12:59 p.m.
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BenchBoss writes:
What Hank said......
The more we talk about these 2 losers, the more they feel they've accomplished something. Here's to quick & speedy anonymity for Arse and Churchwho.
February 20, 2009
1:05 p.m.
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vudumom writes:
I think someone should set off a bomb at Bill Ayers house to show their hate for everything HE stands for. Hopefully Churchill will be visiting.
February 20, 2009
1:06 p.m.
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AC writes:
Zim writes: "Good job, RMN, for once again providing Ward Churchill even MORE free P.R.! Or does the guy pay you? At this point, why not make him your mascot?"
It's amusing to always read comments from people reading stories who complain the stories shouldn't be there. Holy cow, Bill Ayers coming to talk at CU with Churchill is bleepin' NEWS. All right?
It never fails that at least ONE comment on almost every story is "This is news??"
February 20, 2009
1:10 p.m.
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WestminsterJ writes:
LMA- Maybe Obama should share the stage also....
Maybe you should grow a brain.
February 20, 2009
1:12 p.m.
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JMaster writes:
Hey freespeech34 Obama is not a a god he is just intelligent but I wouldn't expect you to know the difference...you know what with being ignorant and all.
February 20, 2009
1:12 p.m.
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Denver7 writes:
What is it about boulder that attracts so much attention like this? Is it the new Berkley? Are we becoming the new California?
February 20, 2009
1:14 p.m.
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WestminsterJ writes:
"GunnyBob": Poor CU. Their reputation is now complete with balh blah blah
Uh, Gunny, CU fired Churchill. Idiot
"GunnyBob", a moron with a microphone.
February 20, 2009
1:15 p.m.
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Beergut writes:
Sundog: Some of the people (some) in the World Trade Center worked for companies that created some hardships in the Middle East which when distilled was Churchill's main point. But that was not true for all companies, and too called them "little Eichmanns" is not only inflammatory but I don't think historically right.
February 20, 2009
1:16 p.m.
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KingSoopers writes:
AWESOME!!!
Ladies and gentlemen, it's the tag team INTELLECTUAL SUPER HEAVY WEIGHT CHAMPIONS of the universe!
February 20, 2009
1:17 p.m.
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elkman writes:
leatherneck
Defending a coward like churchill...whats that make you? Pathetic!
February 20, 2009
1:22 p.m.
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GunnyBob writes:
Uh-oh, I have gone and upset a Churchill flunkie.
Funny how he does not know that Ward still teaches--without pay--a class at CU, on campus. Odd how he missed that Ward is still a smear on CU's reputation or what's left of it, and a lawsuit is on-going between Ward and CU. Strange how he can't grasp that Ward will always be associated with CU in nearly everyone's mind.
Duh.
February 20, 2009
1:27 p.m.
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Scott writes:
WestminsterJ: Uh, Gunny, CU fired Churchill. Idiot.
Uh WestminsterJ, Coke U. ONLY fired the loser once intense pressure from public opinion revealed that the plastic Indian was a phony (he ain't an Indian) and plagiarist and that Coke U. was stupid enough to hire the plastic Indian in the first place. If the public pressure hadn't happened, then this phony plagiarist would still be polluting the minds of your younger idiots-in-training, err libs.
"WestminsterJ", a moron with a keyboard
Scott
February 20, 2009
1:28 p.m.
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bira44 writes:
As the RMN continues to focus on the irrelevant, it's plain to see why they won't be around in a few months.
We don't need two "newspapers" here in Denver if one can't find anything more newsworthy to report than a confab with two superfluous phonies as the main draw.
February 20, 2009
1:30 p.m.
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AC writes:
freespeech34 writes: "Maybe the CIA will whack Ayers for Obama to stop further embarrassment. Remember Vince Foster?"
Wow, the nutbars are out in full force today!
February 20, 2009
1:31 p.m.
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NuggetsFan2000 writes:
No wonder the country is in trouble. We have people like this teaching our children. These men would like nothing more due away with all academic standards. They only want to teach the opposite of what should be accepted as truth. I am sad to say that I am not surprised that some people actually believe the crap that these fools spread.
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February 20, 2009
1:31 p.m.
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Scott writes:
elkman,
Go back and re-read leatherneck's posting. He, I'll assume that leatherneck isn't a BAM ;-) , stated,
"People that defend Ward Churchill are as Crazy as he is.
They disgust me and most of America........",
and then out some of the stupid things that the plastic Indian lovers were saying.
Scott
February 20, 2009
1:36 p.m.
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NoKoolAid writes:
Hey JMaster Obummer only thinks he is a god. We will see how intelligent you think he is when your standing on Colfax with your cardboard sign. Mark my words at the rate he is spending we are looking at 17% to 20% interest rates and unemployment at 15%. Exactly the plan Churchill and Ayers espouse for bringing about their brand of change.
February 20, 2009
1:42 p.m.
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HankReardon writes:
NoKoolAid,
RE: "Mark my words..."
Okay, I've marked 'em. But like your kind, will you eat crow when your 'predictions' don't really happen? Probably not. Rush or Sean will having you jumping through other hoops by then.
February 20, 2009
1:46 p.m.
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NoKoolAid writes:
HANKREARDON,
Do your homework 56 Trillion in total debt obligation. I don't need Sean or Rush to tell me whats going on. I am a big boy it is you my friend who is drinking the Kool Aid
February 20, 2009
1:54 p.m.
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HankReardon writes:
So nice of you to climb out from under your rock, ParrotAid. What's it been... 8-10 years?
February 20, 2009
2:01 p.m.
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jersey writes:
If I were to ever read in a forum, regardless of the subject matter, in which racist numbskulls like T1lander, leavemealone, nokoolaid and others of their pathetic ilk did not bring up Obama's name as a negative attachment to something he has absolutely nothing to do with, it would be the day of extinction for all mankind!
February 20, 2009
2:01 p.m.
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JMaster writes:
Hey NoKoolAid you don't need to worry about me. My job is stable unlike your mental state. Interesting, I didn't know they had computers in mental health facilities.
By the way your predictions are a joke, but then.....so are you!
February 20, 2009
2:04 p.m.
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NoKoolAid writes:
That's all you got. Knock down my number? Tell me how I am wrong or I guess if you can't you could resort to naming a sewage treatment plant after me.
February 20, 2009
2:09 p.m.
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NoKoolAid writes:
Jersey there you go again. It is always the liberals that play the race card. You can spend 8 years calling Bush all kinds of vile crap but the second someone uses a phrase like Obummer he is targeted as a racist. How about showing me where I was wrong with my statement regarding the debt. You can't I stand by what I said.
February 20, 2009
2:11 p.m.
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HisPrinceMichael writes:
ONLY, in "America" can "former"-terrorists get better
treatment, that its military veterans. GOT Change?
THE Battle, has just BEGUN:
http://www.all4webs.com/q/f/love4yahweh
February 20, 2009
2:12 p.m.
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JMaster writes:
Actually I thought it was pretty good.
It would be a much much shorter list to tell you what you have "right" which would be nil, nicht, none, nada, and forgetaboutit.
Unemployment at 15% maybe if we were trying to employ people like you or your family members.
Or how about 17-20% interest rates could be possible on the planet of Pluto on a warm day.....maybe.
You just make these numbers up or did Rush, Hannity, or O'Reilly give them to you?
February 20, 2009
2:15 p.m.
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JMaster writes:
I will concede we will experience a good deal of inflation and devaluation of the dollar with all this spending but your rates are joke.....and again so are you!
February 20, 2009
2:16 p.m.
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NoKoolAid writes:
So you did your homework jmaster? All you have to do is Google Total Debt Obligation and There it is http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.ph...
Keep calling me names. You are showing the whole world who you are.
February 20, 2009
2:17 p.m.
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the_ripper writes:
The Paligarist And Terrorist Show.
Should be wildly entertaining.
February 20, 2009
2:28 p.m.
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JMaster writes:
Ha! Ha! KoolAid now wonder your a tool. Let me enlighten you. Let us look at the AUTHOR on which you base your FACTS.
Jerome Robert Corsi (born August 31, 1946) is an American author.[1] He is best-known for his two New York Times bestselling books: The Obama Nation and Unfit for Command (with co-author John O'Neill). Both books, the former written in 2008 and the latter in 2004, attacked Democratic presidential candidates and were strongly criticized, including for what critics said were factual errors.[2]
Sorry if I don't carry any weight to what he says moron. He seems to be a little biased as do you.
If you want people to listen have something important (and factual) to say!
February 20, 2009
2:28 p.m.
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jersey writes:
NoKoolAid: If the shoe fits.......
Obummer? Hell, that without a doubt is one of the more civil and humane things you have called him. No problem at all with that adjective. As for the multitude of others, I stand by what I said!
February 20, 2009
2:34 p.m.
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HankReardon writes:
UnCoolAid,
When you use terms like "Total Debt Obligation", I can tell it's spin. Could you be a little more vague?
February 20, 2009
2:36 p.m.
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benjamin.whitmer writes:
On the Ward Churchill Trial: http://wardchurchilltrial.wordpress.com/
February 20, 2009
2:42 p.m.
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AC writes:
NoKoolAid writes: "All you have to do is Google Total Debt Obligation and There it is http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.ph...
Holy cow, World Nut Daily as a source. Great job there.
February 20, 2009
2:43 p.m.
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davies writes:
The funny thing about Ward Churchill is that he felt ennobled when raising his voice to condemn American business people, but when he turns back to see that the public trough has been taken away from him, he squeals like a pig. He wants to be PAID to bite the hand that feeds him! I honestly believe that the University of Colorado was diminishing the value of its degrees and programs, by having such a notoriously unconscionable faculty member.
Ward Churchill is a shining example of the dino-libs who think they are making the world a better place, by feeling like they're better than everyone else.
February 20, 2009
2:49 p.m.
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JMaster writes:
Churchill's reference to WTC employees as "Little Eichmann's" says it all. The guy is a moron without the intelligence to teach at a soup kitchen let alone at a major university.
February 20, 2009
3:06 p.m.
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The_Punnisher writes:
Don't demean the ( former ) Puke and Snot duo. ( Google to see what I mean )
They weren't avowed TERRORISTS.
Ayers is. Like HAMAS ( ISRAEL MUST BE DESTROYED ).
February 20, 2009
3:06 p.m.
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NoKoolAid writes:
I gave you the first link that comes up when you google the term to show you how easy it is to do your homework. If you were paying any attention I used a much lower figure than they did but analysts all over the country will come up with a range between 56 and 65 trillion. HankReardon Total Debt Obligation is the Sum Total of everything we owe is GDP to vague for you.
Jersey Boy what else have I called Obummer quote me. You liberals are all the same kill the messenger when you can't disprove the message.
February 20, 2009
3:12 p.m.
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freespeech34 writes:
All you people blasting NoKoolAid should look at history. In 1939 unemployment was still at 20%, and this after eight years of the New (raw) Deal. Even FDR's treasury secretary Henry Morganthau was frustrated. He exploded at the New Deal programs saying, "We have tried spending money.... we are spending more than we ever did before and it does not work. We have never made good on our promises....I say after 8 years of this administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started...and an enormous debt to boot". If history is a guide we are doomed to failure.
February 20, 2009
3:22 p.m.
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jersey writes:
Kool: I've got your BOY. Punk!
February 20, 2009
3:24 p.m.
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Beergut writes:
freespeech34: You are about the 10th person this week on different boards to use the same star man argument. Is this "argument of the week (or weak?)" posted somewhere, or is a secret mailing? It can be debunked with ease, but being you appear to to marching to a group mind I won't waste my time.
February 20, 2009
3:36 p.m.
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The_Punnisher writes:
Freespeech34:
Hmmm. We might want to look at the history of GERMANY at that same time. Note the people who were friends of the person who ran the government of Germany at that time....
Including a type that could have been branded a domestic TERRORIST...
February 20, 2009
3:47 p.m.
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JMaster writes:
NoKoolAid are you going back on your ridiculous and dismal predictions....cmon man stick to your little guns!
I know let's use the Austin Powers - The Spy Who Shagged Me movie for examining your figures of 56-65 trillion debt obligation.....
PRESIDENT-Dr. Evil, what do you want?
DR. EVIL-Now what I want Mr. President, but I will receive. In 12 hours I will destroy Washington,DC with a giant laser.
I will destroy another major city every hour- that is, unless you
pay me.........One hundred billion dollars!
(The President and his advisors LAUGH.)
PRESIDENT-Dr. Evil that's more than the entire federal budget for 1969.
DR. EVIL-Don't play games with me. The capitol will disappear if I don't receive-One hundred billion dollars!
PRESIDENT- That much money simply doesn't exist. I don't think l00 billion is even a number. It's like saying I want a kajillion bajillion dollars.
That is what I think of your laughable "prediction" NoKool its like saying a kajillion bajillion dollars.
Btw...which is it 56 or 65 trillion there seems to be a BIG difference in your range of 9 trillion which is near our current entire national debt level as a WHOLE! How about 100 trillion or 200 trillion...since they are "made up" numbers I thought we should just go for the gusto.
February 20, 2009
3:50 p.m.
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Sgt_Pepper_7_62 writes:
Maybe if ayers had a pair, he would martyr himself and ward church-pile, like a terrorist with b@llz...Maybe Yank, Don't know nothin', jersey, MasterB, could be casually hangin around at that time..........7.62mm...........
February 20, 2009
3:55 p.m.
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taxidave writes:
Is this where Bill Ayers launches Ward Churchill's political career, much liked he launched Obama's career? They'll both make for great henchmen in the coming darker day's of Obama's administration.
February 20, 2009
3:55 p.m.
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JMaster writes:
Hey Sgt_PeePee if you had a pair you would martyr yourself and save us your dribble. Btw......you can take you 7.62mm round and fire it up your......
February 20, 2009
3:56 p.m.
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NoKoolAid writes:
Still no facts Jersey? Nothing to back it up. Whose the Punk?
February 20, 2009
4:04 p.m.
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NoKoolAid writes:
Wow Jmaster. It sure is easy to make up stories using Austin Powers but your not winning your argument. Maybe you still don't know what Google is? or how to conduct your own research. Maybe you are just lazy I don't know. 56 to 65 trillion is the consensus do you know what fluidity is? Today it is 56 Your buddy in Washington Spends 5 or 6 tomorrow. The next day 8 more flows in. It changes daily.
February 20, 2009
4:15 p.m.
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elkman writes:
Boy, did you guys get off the real subject. The story, was about two idiots going to CU to tell lies.
February 20, 2009
4:17 p.m.
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shanester writes:
I wonder when Ayer's will get a taste of his own medicine.
Funny how he used to bomb police targets, now gets police protection.
First, he tries to kill them, then hides behind them.
Typical Marxist.
February 20, 2009
4:17 p.m.
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Iceman7 writes:
The_Punnisher,
Very glad to know that you survived your ordeal back in Berkeley!
I don't understand how (Burning Chrome)can take a common every day expression and turn it into something as bad as what Ayers has done.
Let them exercise their free hate speech for the US... They should just not be paid with any tax dollars. That is the complete irony. Even though they dislike the US so much they keep receiving their pay checks from public institutions..
BTW, I lol on that new name you gave the Hick on a different blog. That was funny..
February 20, 2009
4:19 p.m.
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shanester writes:
Of course they have to cash paychecks from public institutions. Basically, they are worthless and could not make it on their own. They hate this country, but are basically welfare recipients & live off of it.
February 20, 2009
4:23 p.m.
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shanester writes:
"The guy is a moron without the intelligence to teach at a soup kitchen let alone at a major university."
I differ. He may not be smart enough to teach at a soup kitchen, but that is much more than is needed to teach at a public University. Especially in Boulder. If you are a Marxist and hate the USA, you are qualified.
February 20, 2009
4:25 p.m.
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shanester writes:
Funny how these guys hate the USA and claim people like Hugo Chavez and Venezuela are model countries and leaders.
Funny how they don't live there, isn't it?
February 20, 2009
4:32 p.m.
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JMaster writes:
NoKool nice arguement for someone with a labotomy. If you google hard enough (which I imagine you do by yourself every night) you can find whatever information you are "looking" for. And you are looking are right-wing analysis that will affirm your astronomical and unsupportable figures. Consensus by whom.....Whose consensus? The CBO doesn't have the numbers you are shoveling. The only thing fluid is between your ears!
February 20, 2009
5:17 p.m.
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BO writes:
While I don't like what Churchill did regarding his plagiarism, he has every right to say what he did in his 9/11 essay. While I also disagree with his essay, I have never bought the "they hate us because of our freedom" argument made famous by W. In this country, EVERYONE has the right to express their views in a proper forum (there can obviously be disagreement regarding what constitutes a proper form). Just because you don't like what someone has to say is no reason for them to be killed, unless you want to live in a 3rd world dictatorship.
As far as Ayers goes, the reason he never did time was because the FBI and the Federal Government of the time (led by Hoover and Nixon- not exactly the embodiments of moral or ethical behavior either) couldn't put together an honest case against him. As a matter of fact, most of you whining the loudest about Ayers probably had never heard of him until the last election cycle, nor did you care until Rush or Hannity told you to care. You know Obama didn't "pal around" with him in the regular sense. Time to move on, and let it go.
Punnisher- you're talking tough. You know where Ayers will be and when he'll be there.....
February 20, 2009
5:44 p.m.
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stumanchu writes:
Heap big medicine coming to town. Get ready with wampum.
February 20, 2009
6:03 p.m.
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The_Punnisher writes:
I'm resisting the temptation to become as EVIL as Ayers....
I just don't want to see that type of EVIL spreading... Because EVIL florishes best among the IGNORANT and STUPID...
February 20, 2009
11:55 p.m.
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BUCKSHOTT2006 writes:
He's an old hippie
and he don't know what to do
should hang on to the old
should he grab on to the new
he's an old hippie
his new life is just a bust
he ain't trying to change nobody
he just trying real hard to adjust
"Old Hippie"
-Bellamy Brothers
February 21, 2009
9:06 a.m.
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stumanchu writes:
9-11 victims have it out for this guy.
February 21, 2009
10:18 a.m.
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Madre2 writes:
Buckwheat: Did you even read the story? The University of Colorado is NOT sponsoring this event. Three student groups are paying (from student fees they raised) for Ayers' appearance. Your response is so indicative of the knee-jerk critics who rabidly await for any opportunity to smear one of the state's biggest employers and economic drivers. A lot of great work is being done at CU. Researches, medical doctors, global climate researchers, etc., are among the best in the world.
February 21, 2009
11:34 a.m.
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Iceman7 writes:
Folks,
Lets just drop this subject. To many people are letting a meeting become to much of a deal. Yes their have been transgressions to most us, but we learn to forgive and move on. These two guys will have their meeting and it should not matter to us cause we won't be there.
As an immigrant to this country; the US has the most generous and kindest people in the world. That is who we are. Just re-call how much money and volunteer time went into the Katrina, the Sunami and other disasters.
These blogs are suppose to be a way of expressing opinions and having some fun. We may disagree or agree and that is okay.
Have a great weekend everyone. The sun is back shinning.
February 21, 2009
2:44 p.m.
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Madre2 writes:
Good idea Iceman. I hope the sun cleanses the minds of the people who spread so much vile misinformation and hate over the Web. You have a great weekend, too!!
February 21, 2009
4:08 p.m.
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Mouthpiece writes:
To set the record straight: Madre2 has it right. Ayers' visit is funded by student groups -- not by CU. Students control their own funds. No taxpayer dollars are funding Ayers visit. Also, GunnyBob has it wrong. Churchill is not "teaching" at CU. He was holding court in free "lectures" offered after the university's normal operating hours. No credit was offered to CU students and the "class" wasn't sponsored by any CU department or faculty member. http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn...
And for Kilpatrick88: Ann Coulter spoke at CU-Boulder in 2003. Rudy Giuliani spoke in 2005. John Ashcroft spoke last year, as did Sandra Day O'Connor.
February 22, 2009
8:02 a.m.
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Snapple writes:
Ward Churchill "jokes" in three of his "scholarly" books that mothers should "snuff" their babies and kill themselves "to do the planet a real favor."
He also complained in his book "Perversions of Justice" that 24 books had been written about the Jonbenet murder.
Wardo actually counted the number of Jonbenet books. That's kinda weird. Even I didn't do that, and everyone says I'm crazy!
http://legendofpineridge.blogspot.com...
February 22, 2009
11:05 a.m.
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Snapple writes:
Why don't you all read Churchill's vicious words. this is not about liberal or conservative.
http://legendofpineridge.blogspot.com...
What if some nutty professor wrote in three "scholarly" books that professors should "snuff" their babies and kill themselves too to "do the planet a real favor"?
Do you think professors would defend his free speech? Churchill doesn't know anything about the environment, he just loves saying who should be killed.
Calling the 9-11 victims "little Eichmann" was nothing new with Churchill.
On June 26, 1975, two young FBI Special Agents, Jack R. Coler and Ronald A. Williams, were shot to death execution-style at close range on Pine Ridge Indian reservation after they were already injured and on the ground.
When ex-Professor Ward Churchill claimed that the two murdered FBI agents died "Custer-like--in their self-made trap," he viciously disparaged these victims of terrorism in exactly the same way that he disparaged the 9-11 victims as "little Eichmanns."
Ward Churchill also reveals that he has daydreams about politicians being overthrown and hanged:
"[R]everies of malignant toads like Henry Kissinger, Madeleine Albright and Jesse Helms squatting in the shadows of the gallows are simply too pleasant to be suppressed." [2003 Introduction to Churchill's book "Acts of Rebellion"; cited by Bruce Fein, "Professorship not a License" 2-15-05]
"I have these delightful visions which is what puts me to sleep at night of Madeleine Albright, Jesse Helms, and Henry Kissinger all in a nice neat little row with nooses around their necks and... And the current crop is amply entitled to the same destiny as far as I'm concerned. Do I think anybody's going to do it? Well, that's an interesting question. Who would be doing it? There's only one possible answer: you. We. Us"... [audio]---Ward Churchill 3-25-05
"Were the opportunity acted upon in some reasonably good faith fashion – a sufficiently large number of Americans rising up and doing whatever is necessary to force an immediate lifting of the sanctions on Iraq, for instance, or maybe hanging a few of America's abundant supply of major war criminals (Henry Kissinger comes quickly to mind, as do Madeline Albright, Colin Powell, Bill Clinton and George the Elder) – there is every reason to expect that military operations against the US on its domestic front would be immediately suspended." [Ward Churchill, "Some People Push Back."]
Do you think if people talked that way about Ward Churchill that professors would call it "free speech"?
Wrad Churchill cries about his free speech and losing his job, but he calls for elected politicians to be lynched by a mob. He jokes that babies should be snuffed.
He counted the number of books written about Jonbenet.
February 22, 2009
11:19 a.m.
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Snapple writes:
I read Bill Ayers' book. He was a follower of Mao. I think he probably even chose Mao as his spiritual father because they had the same birthday--December 26.
Billy Ayers is crazy, and I write about him on my blog, too.
http://legendofpineridge.blogspot.com/
Bill Ayers and Ward Churchill don't believe in free speech.
They are communist politicians. They believe in free speech for themselves. They believe that politicians elected by the people should be lynched and bombed.
Both of them work for state universities and have tenure.
We don't give politicians tenure. We elect them.
February 22, 2009
11:27 a.m.
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Snapple writes:
I believe in free speech for Ward Churchill. That's why my my blog has chronicled the loathsome ex-teacher's free speech, which he has often used to tell audiences in very graphic language who he thinks deserves to be snuffed, burned alive, shot, fragged, hanged, kneecapped, dismembered, stabbed in the throat, and so on.
Some scholars arrogantly claim they are "speaking truth to power" when they defend a propagandist who publishes his lies in a KGB mouthpiece. Ward Churchill claimed in a KGB publication that FBI-backed death squads killed 342 Pine Ridge Indians who were affiliated with the American Indian Movement.
Ward Churchill has also mischaracterized the words of genuine scholars to give credibility to his claim that the US Army deliberately infected the Mandan with smallpox.
Churchill "cites" "The Effect of Smallpox on the Amerindian" (1945) by E. Wagner Stearn, Ph.D. and Allen E. Stearn, Ph.D. to give the impression that his claim is documented by these respected scholars. In fact, this book actually chronicles in painstaking detail the attempts of the American government to innoculate Indians against smallpox. Ironically, near the end of the book, the authors even write:
Mischief makers tried to provoke the Indians against the whites by telling them that they were to be exterminated by smallpox, introduced in clothing sent to them. [Stearn and Stearn. "The Effect of Smallpox on the Amerindian" (102)]
http://legendofpineridge.blogspot.com...
February 22, 2009
11:33 a.m.
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Snapple writes:
Churchill is a mischief maker, too. His fabricated history of the Mandan genocide reminds me of the KGB lie that the US Army invented AIDS to kill black people. In the USSR, brave leaders of the Soviet Academy of Sciences actually did "speak truth to power" and denounce this lie right in Izvestia:
The New York Times (11-5-87) reported:
Soviet scientists have disavowed charges in the Soviet-sponsored press that the AIDS virus was artificially cultivated at a secret American military base.The scientists, Roald Sagdeyev and Vitali Goldansky, publicly distanced the Soviet Academy of Sciences from the accusations about American responsibility for acquired immune deficiency syndrome. They said they had protested the appearance of Soviet articles that repeated those contentions.The disavowal was contained in Izvestia, the Soviet government newspaper...
Finally, in 1992, KGB chief Primakov made this frank admission in Izvestia:
[KGB foreign intelligence chief Yevgeni Primakov] mentioned the well known articles printed a few years ago in our central newspapers about AIDS supposedly originating from secret Pentagon laboratories. According to Yevgeni Primakov, the articles exposing US scientists' 'crafty' plots were fabricated in KGB offices."--Izvestia (3-19-92)
I am thankful that the CU scholars finally examined Churchill's "scholarship" and saw through his divisive lies. It's too bad they didn't listen sooner to what brave Indian sources had been saying about Churchill.
If people had listened to what Indians were saying about this white man who masquerades as an Indian to get pitty points, CU would have gotten rid of Churchill before now.
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February 22, 2009
11:41 a.m.
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Snapple writes:
The Indian law professor Dr. John LaVelle really did "speak truth to power" when he bravely exposed Ward Churchill's lies back in 1996.
Scholars are supposed to try to uncover the truth, and Dr. LaVelle really did uncover the truth about the fake Indian Ward Churchill. Dr. LaVelle is a good example of a real Indian professor. When Indian nations want a good lawyer, they often choose Dr. LaVelle.
Dr. LaVelle shows that Ward Churchill is no friend to Indians.
More than ten years ago, Professor LaVelle pinpointed many of the issues that came to a head during the investigation of disgraced Professor Ward Churchill for research misconduct.
Professor LaVelle points out that Churchill actually is a white "wannabee" who inserts himself "into the political affairs of real Indian people" and "assaults tribal self-determination under the guise of championing Indian rights" [The American Indian Quarterly, Winter 1996, page 109].
Professor LaVelle says that Churchill's writings serve his leftist, agenda, not the rights of Indians.
Professor LaVelle writes:
"There is no escaping the conclusion that in [Ward Churchill's book] "Indians Are US?" Ward Churchill misrepresents the writings of both Russell Thornton and Patricia Nelson Limerick in order to create a false appearance that these acclaimed scholars corroborate and partake of Churchill's hostility toward Indian tribes...the anti-tribal posturing that Churchill cunningly assigns to Thornton and Limerick is decisively negated by both authors in those very same passages...Churchill cites!" [American Indian Quarterly, Winter 1996, page 112].
Churchill really used his position at the University of Colorado as a platform from which to repress and discredit authentic Indian voices and to appropriate and exploit Indian issues for the extreme communist "anti-imperialist" (anti-American) left. He tried to remould Indians into his "anti-imperialist" (anti-American) sock puppets.
But Churchill failed to take over Indians.
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February 22, 2009
11:56 a.m.
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Snapple writes:
Churchill is nothing but a lying communist politician who thinks he should have tenure.
Scholars get tenure because we trust them to be honest scholars who strive for the truth, not politicians.
Politicians only get tenure in communist countries. Unless they get shot or hanged by other politicians.
That is not the way of our people. We elect our politicians. We don't give them tenure.
Ward Churchill is not a scholar; he is an unelected politician who hides behind tenure and writes that elected politicians should be hanged.
As I noted above, even in Soviet Russia the great scientists spoke truth to power. They didn't defend the "free speech" of dishonest KGB-sponsored scholars.
February 22, 2009
12:03 p.m.
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Snapple writes:
Thank you University of Colorado scholars for speaking truth to power about Ward Churchill. Thank you for listening to Indian people and others who complained how he had hurt them.
Thank you for not letting Ward Churchill use a great university as a political platform to undermine Indian people's soverignty, to lie about our history, to denigrate women and children, and and to advocate the totalitarian politics of the noose and the bomb.
February 22, 2009
1 p.m.
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Snapple writes:
Thank you, Rocky Mountain News, for letting me stand up to Churchill. You are a great newspaper.
Churchill has free speech, but as a professor he must follow the written rules for honest scholarship. These are the same rules as the government uses for giving research grants.
Churchill's lawsuit is not about "free speech"; it's really a contract dispute. Scholars arent' allowed to fabricate history. They aren't allowed to plagiarize and mischaracterize the scholarship of other professors.
When the work of other professors is deliberately mischaracterized, it violates their free speech, in my opinion.
Churchill didn't just misunderstand what others wrote or get careless with his footnotes. He was deliberately dishonest and deceptive.
February 22, 2009
11:24 p.m.
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kevdenver writes:
I'm a liberal democrat. And even I cannot get behind this. Ward Churchill just needs to go away.
February 23, 2009
6:06 a.m.
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Duckster writes:
Wow--two of this country's most dishonest and unpatriotic people on the same stage at the same time. Isn't there any way that we, the people, can call down an air strike from a Predator drone? It would be worth the loss of the building, especially when you figure that any collateral damage would by limited to a bunch of mouth-breathing, America-hating sycophants and half-wits who idolize these creeps in the way that makes some sick women send marriage proposals to convicted serial murderers.