Cops' DNC shirts raise ire

By Brian Maass, CBS4 NEWS

Published September 25, 2008 at 3:09 p.m.

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A T-shirt created by Denver police union is selling fast.

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September 25, 2008

3:19 p.m.

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opinionatedcolo writes:

If anyone ever denies there is a "cop mentality" just show them this article.
September 25, 2008

3:24 p.m.

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Mayor_Quimby writes:

Where are the police protective offices? I want one.
September 25, 2008

3:24 p.m.

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BroncoRick69 writes:

So they are celebrating "beating" people? A long time ago, I used to have respect for the police. But I was young and dumb.
September 25, 2008

3:24 p.m.

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The_Punnisher writes:

I bet they would sell even more if the shirts were BROWN or BLACK in color...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_sh...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackshirts

You might want to add a couple of Runic Lightning Bolts...

http://www.ns88.com/shop/images/ss-lo...

I bet these could become best sellers, especially with the Jeffco greenies...
September 25, 2008

3:30 p.m.

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Denver_Dan writes:

And then cops whine and complain about the animosity they get from the general public.
September 25, 2008

3:34 p.m.

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gary writes:

Good for the police. They know their rights too.
They have the same freedom of speach that we do.

Way to go Denver Police Department.

Do not let the politically correct "beat" you down!

Nuff Said!
September 25, 2008

3:37 p.m.

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chickenlittle1234 writes:

In this age of irony, I was surprised to find this shirt wasn't being put out BY the protestors. Sort of similar to the perverse pride I saw in New Orleans post-Katrina, of surviving almost anything.
September 25, 2008

3:38 p.m.

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Scott writes:

I take a size XL!

Scott
September 25, 2008

3:39 p.m.

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Buckwheat writes:

Reminds me of a hat I used to own "St. Vrain Power Plant...A Little Nukie Never Hurt Anyone"
September 25, 2008

4 p.m.

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aryn writes:

excellent, very creative, I like this detective
September 25, 2008

4:10 p.m.

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just_dis writes:

This story would be much more informative if a web link were included indicating where I could buy one of these shirts.
September 25, 2008

4:10 p.m.

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freedomfighter1 writes:

It is kind of funny.
September 25, 2008

4:11 p.m.

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OhBrother writes:

They beat me to the punch
September 25, 2008

4:14 p.m.

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righty_left writes:

I'll be sure to wear mine when I'm out driving drunk.

I'm sure the police would respond very postively if the protestors wore anti-cop shirts, even mockingly.

Whatever, freedom of speech/expression - got to love it.

I'll take one in L.
September 25, 2008

4:36 p.m.

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Buckwheat writes:

I find this totally dispicable, crude, and absolutely irresponsible. These people are suppose to be the pillars of the community. How dare they flaunt their power over ordinary citizens in this manner........ I'll take two..XL (and do ya have anything in pink for the little woman?)...
September 25, 2008

4:37 p.m.

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thebruisedreed writes:

I think it's funny. You people need to get a life.
September 25, 2008

4:37 p.m.

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Andy writes:

I believe the Police did a good job during the convention. This, however, is in poor taste.
September 25, 2008

4:57 p.m.

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TheDenverB writes:

you're right gary (as much as it pains me to say it)

but as someone said (so very appropriately):

"And then cops whine and complain about the animosity they get from the general public."
September 25, 2008

5:01 p.m.

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temurlan writes:

LOL

They did a good job during the convention. Let 'em have a little fun.
September 25, 2008

5:14 p.m.

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The_Punnisher writes:

freethought writes:

How 'bout..."Denver cops beat-off protestors"?

How about " Denver Cops jerk off on the public dime "

" Denver cops beat off ON protestors; It's the only way they get their jollies "

It's more appropriate...
September 25, 2008

6:05 p.m.

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jbowen43 writes:

Apparently when a police officer exercises first amendment rights that's OK but when a citizen does they are subject to a beating by the same police officer. This just continues a pattern started by George Dubya Bush.
September 25, 2008

6:18 p.m.

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agzela writes:

I would have loved to have seen what these "peaceful" protestors would have done if there was no Police presence..
September 25, 2008

6:38 p.m.

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incognitoboy writes:

gary, please.

find a new tag line, dude. "nuff said!" is getting really, really, REALLY old.....

i do agree with everything else you said, though.
September 25, 2008

7:23 p.m.

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tfooq writes:

well, agzela, they would not have been as hurt, that's for sure. I bet their eyes and throat would not be filled with pepper spray. I bet they would not have been illegally detained without an order to disperse. I bet they would have make themselves heard.

But we can't have that, can we?

Look, the cops are practicing their right to free speech! Someone beat them up and arrest them illegally!
September 25, 2008

7:24 p.m.

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Really writes:

With all of the bullsh*t they had to deal with that shirt is perfect!!
September 25, 2008

7:45 p.m.

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WHATRIGHTS writes:

Since I travel all over the country I would love to sport this gear to let the rest of the country know how tough Denver cops are that they beat up girls.

The shirt is an accurate enough statement, nothing tongue and cheek about it.....
September 25, 2008

7:46 p.m.

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watcher1 writes:

Yeah, real smart DPD, real smart. Very clever little t-shirt you have there. Very...cool.
September 25, 2008

7:53 p.m.

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TheDenverB writes:

"Look, the cops are practicing their right to free speech! Someone beat them up and arrest them illegally!"

HYSTERICAL and SPOT on.
September 25, 2008

8:39 p.m.

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September 25, 2008

9 p.m.

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Francesca writes:

Looking at this only from the surface - I like that sort of twisted, tongue-in-cheek humor. I see it a little differently than some of you and only with a grain of salt, I guess. To poke fun at oneself publicly like this takes some nads.
September 25, 2008

9:50 p.m.

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Uno_Cinco writes:

People are taking this way to seriously, I support them and I need one in XL can I have my #15 on it as well?
September 25, 2008

9:58 p.m.

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ColoradoDave writes:

"Recreate 68 organizer Glenn Spagnuolo calls the shirt appalling and tasteless."

That's ironic because most everyone else in Colorado (on both the right and the left) finds Glenn Spagnuolo appalling and tasteless.
September 25, 2008

10:05 p.m.

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B_Man writes:

Maybe Im confused, but you libtards complain about your free speech all the time, but cops cant live by the same rules?? HMMM, and where are some of you coming up with the fact that cops complain and whine about "animosity?", must have missed that one. Do you think any cop, especially good ones really give a crap about what whiney arse people on this site say??? Come on now. Those are funny shirts and they are entitled, leave it alone onion skins. Waaaa Waaaaa Waaaaaa
September 25, 2008

10:22 p.m.

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pennylayne writes:

I think they did a great job considering they were against a group touting to "recreate 68" where the protesting got violent and out of control. There is always a place for non-violent protest but when you blatantly put out there that you want to bring back a time in history that was ugly and messy what do you expect from the police forces?
September 26, 2008

3:34 a.m.

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Highcountry writes:

Cops are crazy egomaniacs with little richards.
September 26, 2008

3:48 a.m.

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MilesUnltd writes:

Cops need to be above this type of thing. DPD (their Union) has shown once again they are not to be respected as professional peace officers. I'd expect something like this from a prison gang.
September 26, 2008

5:03 a.m.

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roger44 writes:

Given the fact they came into Denver and let everyone know they wanted to stir it all up, what did they expect? They laid down the gauntlet and the Police responded. The police can't protect anyone, all they can do is respond to a situation. the Cops have free speech too. Call back these protestors when the illegals gather next May, and put them all together, might be fun to watch.
September 26, 2008

5:44 a.m.

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GodzillaSr writes:

where is Gort when you really need him?
September 26, 2008

5:51 a.m.

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JohnDoeNumber2 writes:

Maybe these COPS might just get something much worse than some hippies protesting the DNC as AL QAIDA begins 'STAGE 1' of their 'OCTOBER SURPRISE' for the U.S. and Europe:

2 terrorist suspects arrested on KLM flight

By NICOLE LANGE, Associated Press Writer

COLOGNE, Germany - German police boarded a plane at Cologne airport and arrested two terrorist suspects Friday just before the plane took off for Amsterdam.

A 23-year-old Somali man and a 24-year-old German man born in Somalia were arrested before the KLM flight left the airport, a spokeswoman for North Rhine-Westphalia state police said.Police spokeswoman Katharina Breuer told The Associated Press that officers boarded the plane at 6:55 a.m. (0455 GMT) and arrested the men without incident. She said authorities do not think the men planned to abduct the flight.

Germany's top-selling Bild newspaper, citing police sources, said the men had been under observation for months and a suicide note was found in their apartment saying that they wanted to die for the 'jihad' or 'holy war.'

Breuer would not disclose how authorities knew the men would be on board.

A KLM spokeswoman told NOS news in the Netherlands that police boarded the Fokker 50 jet when it was at its 'point of departure' and grabbed the two suspects. She said all other passengers aboard KLM Flight 1804 were then forced to leave the plane.

'Then a 'baggage parade' took place to see if the two passengers who were taken by the police had bags with them,' the spokeswoman said.

She said the plane took off after an hour delay and landed at Schipol airport in the Netherlands without further incident.

The Dutch anti-terror chief warned earlier this month that the country remains one of the top targets for Islamic terrorist groups because of publicity surrounding a lawmaker's anti-Islam film.

The National Coordinator for Combating Terrorism said in a report the film 'Fitna' by lawmaker Geert Wilders has made the country a 'preferred target.' Fitna set Koranic texts against a background of violent images, which the agency said 'is considered a major insult and provocation' by terrorist groups.

The terrorist threat has been rated as 'substantial' since the film's launch in March.

Frank Wallenta, a spokesman for federal prosecutors in Germany, said the arrests in Cologne were not related to an announcement Thursday that two men linked to terrorist suspects may be on their way back to Germany.

On Thursday, prosecutors announced that Eric Breininger, 21, and Houssain Al Malla, 23 could be headed to Germany after leaving a terrorist training camp in the border region between Afghanistan and Pakistan. The men are linked to a foiled plot to attack American targets in Germany in 2007.
September 26, 2008

6:11 a.m.

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JohnDoeNumber2 writes:

Arrested on LOOKS ALONE?

http://cfapp2.rockymountainnews.com/p...
September 26, 2008

6:59 a.m.

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leftside writes:

Yep! This should go along way in helping the woman who is suing the police department win her judgment against them.

If you want to act like a bunch of thugs then it's going to cost the taxpayers.

You do realize your one of the taxpayers, don't ya.........
September 26, 2008

7:17 a.m.

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jefferson3 writes:

Gotta love freedom! Now I know how they feel!
September 26, 2008

7:18 a.m.

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sheepherder writes:

What a bunch of whiny wussies on this site! Who cares! The shirt is funny!
September 26, 2008

7:21 a.m.

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fiesty writes:

I do think the shirts are pretty tasteless; however, the protestor spokesman's condemnation of the shirt showing that the police have no respect for rights is pretty hilarious- does he realize how hypocritical that sounds? Yeah, let's support your rights, but don't allow them their right of expression since it's a tacky shirt you don't like!
September 26, 2008

7:29 a.m.

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JSeifert writes:

Too Funny, Where can I buy one?
September 26, 2008

7:33 a.m.

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Duckster writes:

As usual, an appropriate commentary here:
http://lagniappeslair.blogspot.com/20...

Those of you who hate the cops might not want to look, but if you can keep your comments PG, they'll be allowed as well.
September 26, 2008

7:38 a.m.

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Tunlrat writes:

Fiesty, tasteless is in the eye of the beholder. You're 100% right not to like the shirt if that's your opinion. But everyone who's brought up the issue of "Why can't the cops have their 1st ammendment time?" are also right. It is what it is, a funny shirt to some people. If R-68 can call themselves "peaceful protesters" in the paper and want to fight for people's rights then why isn't it an issue that they have, and still are, selling "Devend Denver" shirts with an AK-47 on the front on their web-site? That's hypocritical to me. It's a joke, funny, t-shirt, nothing more. If anyone here hasn't laughed at a tasteless t-shirt designor quote once in your life I'd be surprised.
September 26, 2008

7:47 a.m.

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fiesty writes:

I was thinking that this was really tasteless, but my brother (who is a county sherrif) just pointed out something to me- the word "beat" here was probably not meant as in "hit" but as in the cops' "assigned beat". Anyone understand what he means? I guess it's some police term. IF that's what they meant, I guess it's not as tasteless as it appears, but they should have realized what the interpretation to civilians would be.
September 26, 2008

7:52 a.m.

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Tunlrat writes:

It's a double meaning depending upon how you take the shirt...beat as in hit, or beat as in before the crowds arrive.....
September 26, 2008

8:02 a.m.

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Noia writes:

Nothing is more curious than the almost savage hostility that humor excites in those who lack it. ~George Saintsbury

'nuff said I think.
September 26, 2008

8:10 a.m.

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DerbyBound writes:

And Neil Bush is now selling Silverado Savings shirts that say " I approved over 1 Billion in bad loans, and all I got was this lousy t-shirt."
September 26, 2008

8:11 a.m.

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sheepherder writes:

ssqured...quit your whining already!
September 26, 2008

8:15 a.m.

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Tunlrat writes:

I've got a clue, and have made no personal attack towards anyone in voicing my opinion. I (along with others) think it's a humourous shirt. But that's my sense of humor, or opinion. If a Teacher/Lawyer/Doctor/Mechanic/Bus driver, all people who "serve" you (that you pay alot more for their services then that for a cop) had shirts that they wore on their own time that were taseteless in your opinion are you going to comment about them beating their wives and kids? That's tasteless to make a comment like that directed towards someone's person based on their profession and a t-shirt.
September 26, 2008

8:15 a.m.

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DiogenesTheCynic writes:

People yelling about the First Amendment don't get it. It's not a First Amendment issue because nobody is asking that the government censor the police. They're pointing out (rightly) that it's appalling for the police to celebrate police brutality and that it undermines the work of everyone on the force who has earned the respect of the areas they patrol without cracking skulls at the drop of a hat.

It is a sick irony that the people crying "First Amendment" in defense of the police, whose speech is not being suppressed by government, don't see that when people cannot assemble, protest or report, as guaranteed in that amendment, without being beaten, the First Amendment is in serious danger.
September 26, 2008

8:21 a.m.

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JSeifert writes:

Ever notice that its the ones that want or have broke the law are the ones that complain most about the police, the ones that actually follow the law support the police.
Protesting has nothing to do with violating the law. We live in a republic you do not like the law you vote on a change not riot in the streets. What are we French students or British soccer fans.
Code pink girl got what she wanted Media time. She planned this as all of her ink does FOR ATTENTION. I think she is lucky if she was in France she would have been missing teeth.
September 26, 2008

8:28 a.m.

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Marshdale writes:

Even as a liberal I will give them some credit for being creative. However it does beg the question of, "what is the police departments general mentality?" Are they really the gang in blue or are they mostly decent folks. My guess is that they are mostly decent. I can say that as a white dude in Denver though, I have been pulled over several times while driving around with a couple of my black friends for no real aparrent reason, other than they seemed to be curious as to why I was hanging out with a black person. I think they call it profiling.
Whatever the reason. There still seems to be some overt racism in the department.
September 26, 2008

8:28 a.m.

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OldSailor writes:

I want one too, I need a 3X. Where can I get it?

I have never been abused by the Police and I have no complaints with them. I just wish they would ticket people with real noisy motorcycles and excessively loud car stereos.
and....to hell with the "Sanctuary City" rules, do their best to deport illegals of any country.
September 26, 2008

8:38 a.m.

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almostarmy2003 writes:

I need about 10 of them. 2 for myself and the rest for christmas presents. I love it
September 26, 2008

8:50 a.m.

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UNV_ME writes:

Freedom of speech remember... you can't have it both ways. If you give it to one you give it to all.
September 26, 2008

8:51 a.m.

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almostarmy2003 writes:

Any large group of people that can shoot at you, arrest you, or hit you with a stick and get away with it is a gang. Now with that being said I support them and I want a shirt.
September 26, 2008

9:04 a.m.

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OldSailor writes:

Here is a link for you enlightened and law abiding people who respect the Police, as I do, who want to buy a shirt.

http://www.dppa.com/
September 26, 2008

9:07 a.m.

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RockyMtnMac writes:

I giggled my a$$ off!
I know Denver PD is not perfect, but they handled the DNC very well. Most groups had their protests with very little police involvement and the ones who did get into it with the police were looking for a confrontation (and got one).
The shirt is funny and if you are truly that up in arms about it, you need to fix your sense of humour!
September 26, 2008

9:12 a.m.

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O_TRAIN writes:

UNV_ME - you are right, free speech for all. I think this is humorous and appreciate what they are trying to do. I only hope they have the same respect for free speech when others wear the "I was in fear of my life, so I had to kill'em" t-shirt showing a picture of a cop shooting a mentally-retarded teenager holding a butter-knife.
September 26, 2008

9:12 a.m.

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opinionatedcolo writes:

Once again, the board is full of ignorance. The first amendment protects your speech from government censorship. It does not protect you from private citizens criticizing you when you say something stupid. This cop and those like him can say what they wish when off duty that is their right: just as I have the right to say that the T-Shirt demonstrates that some cops are loud mouth bullies who get off on power and could not really care less about the law.

People like oldsailor only care if the buses run on time and if a few people sailor does not like get beat up, then who cares about them any way. It is a selfish viewpoint but he is entitled to it. Lots of people in Germany and Italy in the 1920's and 30's also agreed with it. Did not work out so well for them.
September 26, 2008

9:16 a.m.

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kc02 writes:

Boy, those open minded lefties get a little touchy, don't they?
September 26, 2008

9:17 a.m.

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ron65ron writes:

To "Serve and Protect", not to BEAT THE CROWD. What they are saying is that they do not want to serve and protect but beat down people? How can anyone think that this is funny? Really bad taste and this helps the Denver Police dept reputation how? They need to stop the sale before the reputation gets worse.
September 26, 2008

9:18 a.m.

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FlyfishDude52 writes:

It is freedom of speech!!! I want one, or three.

gleng spagnuoloo - you are completely appalling and tasteless, and I might add a despicable individual for trying to incite riots during the dnc. I'm glad you were as effective as a fart in the wind.
September 26, 2008

9:57 a.m.

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lwt5150 writes:

When the Broncos won their first Super Bowl, I took my 5-month pregnant wife downtown to see the parade. She works on 17th st, and we got down early and stood in front of her building.

At one point, the Denver cops decided to move all of the crowds back out of the street, even though lines had been painted on 17th for us to stand up to. The cops, on horseback, started moving down the line of people, shoving them back with the horses. The people behind us would not budge, and we were effectively knocked down, stepped on, and crushed by the horses.

The cops and their animals knocked my pregnant wife to the ground, and did not listen when we told them that the people behind us would not move.

One of the cops, on horseback, saw my wife fall and get stepped on by his horse. He laughed and grinned as he stared at her. I will never in my life forget that look. Given some time alone with that cop, I could have proven how cruel humanity can be. I would have turned him inside out, very, very slowly.

My wife and my baby were not permanently injured. Needless to say, we did not attend the next Super Bowl parade, or the Stanley Cup parade in 2001.

The Denver PD is the most brutal and corrupt department I have ever seen. This article, along with my own experience, proves my point.
September 26, 2008

10:07 a.m.

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vendari01 writes:

Tasteless and appalling...I had a few t-shirts like that when I was in service; they come with the territory, when your life is on the line, day after day. DPD has a tough job, and most of them do a good job. Of course there are ten-percenters that give them a bad rep, but that's par for any group. None of us like having anyone 'policing' us, which is why we all check our speed, etc., when we have a marked car in the mirror. I'd rather deal with uniformed officers, than the alternative. So let them have a little fun.
September 26, 2008

10:13 a.m.

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davies writes:

freethought writes:

How 'bout..."Denver cops beat-off protestors"?

Yeah! As an idea for a competing T-shirt, I like it! But you gotta put the word 'protesters' on the back, and 'Denver cops beat-off' on the front ;-)

Then put both T-shirts on a web site and see which one sells more. All profits to go to a non-involved charity.
September 26, 2008

10:14 a.m.

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Billy writes:

Sad the public have no respect for the Denver police. But if something happens to them or theirs, they will be the first to call. I've had relations with the police depts. in many cities, was born and raised in Denver in a not so richy neighborhood, but was always treated fairly by law enforcement, even when I was at fault. I don't share the sentiments of these posters, but I guess i was taught respect by my grandmother for those that do for others. As for these t-shirts, I can honestly I don't agree with them. But I put it in this perspective; if a person hears nothing but negative about themselves all the time, that see is planted. Being a Middle School teacher I see it. When a child hears he/she is no good, will never amount to nothing, that seed is planted. It works the same for adults.
September 26, 2008

10:27 a.m.

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agzela writes:

Of the 1000s protesting 130 were arrested. Youre going to tell me that you actually believe everything would have been peaceful if the Police wasnt present?
September 26, 2008

10:34 a.m.

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sheepherder writes:

Good point egzela, 1000s protested without any problem and occasion with the assistance of the police. The only ones that got arrested wanted to be arrested to prove a point. So the cops have some humor about the whole thing, and people are going to complain about it...get over yourselfs people!
September 26, 2008

10:37 a.m.

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agzela writes:

Hmmm, anti-gay Christian vs. Recreate 68 a recipe for a fine debate while drinking tea with crumpets!

Notice the rather large stick Carlos is carrying must be his love stick to go out touch someone.

http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/a...
September 26, 2008

10:48 a.m.

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agzela writes:

Code pink was present at the DNC dont you think the Police are aware of what the main person that runs Code Pink, Medea Benjamin did during the violent 1999 World Trade Organization protests in Seattle in which she used the Marxist World Worker’s party to help supply bodies. The ensuing riots injured innocent bystanders, caused millions of dollars of property damage for business owners and taxpayers, and left many out of a job. With a POLICE presence and all....

Let also talk about another wonderful day of protest here the Columbus Day parade, when all of the La Raza illegals come out with their peaceful banners "Pilgrim you get out!" and "We were here first!" What a fine mix of peaceful dialogue..
September 26, 2008

11:03 a.m.

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fiesty writes:

lwt5150 - if (and I'm not doubting you) that happened, did you catch the officer's name (from his badge)? If so, you most certainly need to report the incident. Honestly, most cops are good and conscientious, but it's the few that aren't (and act in the matter that you describe) you give the whole a bad name.

However, I do believe that the Denver PD in particular has three major problems on a scale that I fail to see in any other PD I have encountered:
1. A failure in leadership (especially in making expectations clear and expected, as well as enforcing them)
2. Accountability issues (failure to take responsibility)
2. Training lacks
These problems have led to the current atmosphere which has resulted in constant police brutality (both human and animal) incidents. The Denver PD needs a complete overhaul, in leadership from the ground up. Let me tell you something; never, when I was active duty, did I hear of even ONE like incident occurring with military police (SFS) on an installation. It simply would NOT be tolerated; there is a "zero tolerance" policy that SFS members know that they WILL be held accountable to. They are held to higher standard; for the most minor of infractions, they are disciplined more harshly than others. I remember a recent case of an OFF-DUTY SFS member who rode as a passenger in the car with an impaired driver; his fellow SFS at the gate arrested not only the driver but him too! No "blue code" nonsense there! And the SFS commander punished him just the same as the commander of the impaired troop.
September 26, 2008

11:04 a.m.

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agzela writes:

You see for the most part history shows that when there is protest and lines are not drawn to separate the factions what ensues is violence. I could post some examples w/ links but you would dispute the fact cause that what protesters do! Luckily there is some of use that use reason and talk things out instead of shouting and acting threatening to those that might have a different opinion. DP you did a fine job!
September 26, 2008

11:10 a.m.

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JustSayin writes:

Great shirts, but they are missing one thing - a bulls-eye dead center front and back.
September 26, 2008

11:17 a.m.

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almostarmy2003 writes:

fiesty- The same rules apply for support and infantry. I was a squad leader and 2 of my guys and one infantry soldier were arrested because the driver was drunk and he sober passengers let him drive. By the time the UCMJ was finished the 2 E4 were E1 and the E5 was a PFC.
September 26, 2008

11:18 a.m.

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Jangle writes:

Deeply offended? HAHAHA what's offending is that someone is still trying live in 1968. It's a joke, stop whining and crying. Probably the funniest thing we'll see all week. I'll take a XL.
September 26, 2008

11:49 a.m.

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Scott writes:

almostarmy2003,

Courtmartial for DUI? Back in the old days it was Captain's Mast, Article 15.

Scott
September 26, 2008

11:51 a.m.

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almostarmy2003 writes:

They courtmartialed the NCO AR15 the enlisted
September 26, 2008

12:22 p.m.

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Cwillyrun1 writes:

jbowen, the Denver police are under Hickenlooper's supervision.

freethought, funny stuff, dude!! Another t-shirt could say, "We love to stroke our batons".
September 26, 2008

12:42 p.m.

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mynewdaze writes:

Let's see, it's "okay" for the protesters to have "free speech" and protest, but the police have "different" and "lessor" rights ! ! !

Either you agree that EVERYONE has the right to free speech or - - - - you don't let ANYONE have free speech ! ! ! PERIOD.
September 26, 2008

12:44 p.m.

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Beergut writes:

Yea it's kind of funny, but for the police of Denver to make fun of beating people up is simply not appropriate. They need to apologize to us tax players now, else some us are going demand a change in leadership. They are suppose to working for the citizens of Denver, not making fun of them.
September 26, 2008

1:31 p.m.

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fiesty writes:

Cwillyrun1 - ROFLMAO! I LOVE that idea...
September 26, 2008

2 p.m.

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Ahab337 writes:

Where's 2Pac and NWA when you need them?
September 26, 2008

2:11 p.m.

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DahmersCookbook writes:

If your gyno had a shirt on that said "Open Wide" would that be just as funny? No. The message this conveys to children is not that police help people, but hurt. In an age when image is everything to children this only throws fuel on the fire. Being a
'Bad A55' is cool, so carry a gun kids because the cool people
do. Where in the shirt is honor, respect, protect. Very poor choice of where our tax dollars could have gone.
September 26, 2008

2:13 p.m.

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almostarmy2003 writes:

If your gyno had a shirt on that said "Open Wide" would that be just as funny? HELL YEAH!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!
September 26, 2008

2:25 p.m.

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Scott writes:

almostarmy2003,

I'm still missing something on the DUI. I thought that they could only bust an E4 or lower by no more that two paygrades on AR15? What did they do, nail him with two charges for essentially the same offense, hence three paygrades?

BTW, I always referred to it as the Uniform Code of Military Injustice. Never got charged under it, came close once, but I had a Commander for a friend. Once and a while I refer to when I was discharged as, "When I had my civil rights restored." ;-)

Scott
September 26, 2008

2:28 p.m.

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Scott writes:

It would also be funny if my proctologist wore an "Open Wide" T-shirt. He went where no man had ever went before :-)

Scott
September 26, 2008

2:30 p.m.

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almostarmy2003 writes:

Drinking while underage, Drinking while driving, Fraternization, and they impounded the car. They get them good at Fort Drum
September 26, 2008

2:38 p.m.

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Scott writes:

YIKES! Did they at least allow the now E1 and E2 to first apply Vaseline? ;-)

What was the Fraternization charge? The Navy allowed non-rates (E1 to E3) to associate with E4s and up. Not so in the Army?

Scott
September 26, 2008

2:45 p.m.

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almostarmy2003 writes:

It was an E5 in the backseat sober, an E4 in the passenger seat sober, and a drunk E4 driving. E4 and below can't be around NCO's (E5 and above).
September 26, 2008

2:48 p.m.

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Scott writes:

Sorry to hear about that. So much for building "teamwork".

Scott
September 26, 2008

2:55 p.m.

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fiesty writes:

Scott- building teamwork and drunk driving aren't remotely comparable!
September 26, 2008

3:05 p.m.

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Scott writes:

fiesty,

I totally agree with your comment.

What my "teamwork" comment was getting at was the Dogs (army) not allowing E1s to E4s to associate with NCOs (E5s and up). BTW, I just called the squid (navy) recruiters and they still allow non-rates (E1 to E3) to associate with Petty Officers (E4 and up). The Chief (E7) thought I was crazy when I asked him. Then I told him about the dogs. Some of the most fun I had was when the entire work center (E1 to E7) partied together.

Scott
September 26, 2008

3:16 p.m.

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almostarmy2003 writes:

Fiesty what branch were you in?
September 26, 2008

3:19 p.m.

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almostarmy2003 writes:

Squids, never heard that before. Funny
September 26, 2008

3:29 p.m.

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Scott writes:

It's what the JarHeads called us. They claim that we were "squids" because squids (the animal) are the lowest form of sea life.

The ex-military characters that I hang around with refer to each other as dog, jarhead, squid, wing wiper (Air Farce) or harbor duck (Coast Guard). Our conversations almost always start out, "Hey <insert slang name> ...."

Scott
September 26, 2008

3:47 p.m.

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almostarmy2003 writes:

The only time I was really involved with a branch other then army was when they put me and my PIC with a marine unit in Abu Garib prison. Other then that it was 10th Mountain all the time.
September 26, 2008

3:52 p.m.

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Scott writes:

So did the jarhead bunk two per rack? :-) I made that comment to a former Marine sniper (we worked together a Bell Labs). He just looked at me and said, "You @sshole!"

Scott
September 26, 2008

3:56 p.m.

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September 26, 2008

3:58 p.m.

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almostarmy2003 writes:

If they did more power to them we had our own cell. They were good guys though. A little over protective but alright guys
September 26, 2008

4:50 p.m.

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sheepherder writes:

I'm with JINX...the shirt would have been better if the picture of the cops was clubbing Spag-Moron!
September 26, 2008

5:16 p.m.

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JINX writes:

wow - i didn't think I put anything offensive in my statement - why was it removed? I can't put that the DPD did an awesome job.
September 26, 2008

5:18 p.m.

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agzela writes:

Quotes from the Spag himself :

After his group R68 was denied one of the permits it sought for Civic Center, Spagnuolo said into a thicket of microphones and cameras, that the city could be facing "a dangerous situation."

He followed that up with comments like, "If Denver needs to become Ground Zero in the fight to take back our rights, it will," and the possibility that things might "blow up" when the police step in.

At an April 2005 rally, Spagnuolo told the crowd, "Don't sit back and wait for an invitation to the revolution. Riot about something real, like Ward Churchill."

I can see why the cops feel the way they feel you have Code Pink, Anti-Gay Christians, Recreate 68, and the rest of the misfits.....Lets Talk REALITY if I was a cop knowing the groups tendencies I would allow ZERO tolerance!!!
September 26, 2008

5:32 p.m.

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agzela writes:

Code Pink news the same wacky group our Police had to deal with!

They met with the president of Iran!

http://codepink4peace.org/blog/2008/0...

The CODEPINK women proposed inviting American and Iranian artists to build a “peace park” in Tehran, a memorial dedicated to people-to-people commitment to peace and diplomacy between our two countries.

I say, go do it! I mean I'm sure the radical Islamic fundamentalists that think Americans are infidels won't have ANY PROBLEMS with you "exposing your Bush".
They'll lop their heads off quicker than you can say "jihad".
September 26, 2008

9:44 p.m.

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p_myers661 writes:

I just visited the web site and can't find the shirts. Anyone know how to order some.
September 28, 2008

11:20 p.m.

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22much writes:

POLICE STATE !!! POLICE BRUTALITY !!! This T-Shirt is not tongue-in-cheek. It's down right scary !! I saw the big white police vans with 6-8 COPS hanging off them. Meant to terrorize people. I too used to respect police. I knew they didn't always treat minorities appropriately. Now I'm apparently a minority. 64 year old white grandmother of 8. Where has respect gone? Where is common courtesy? Where is kindness?

They may have a right to wear any t-shirt they want but if they expect respect this isn't the way to get it. If they want fear it doesn't work with me. If they want anger and disgust they got it. I've never called a police officer a PIG. I never wanted to. If I seen one in this t-shirt I will want to call him/her a PIG ! A disgusting PIG!

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Cops' DNC shirts raise ire

By Brian Maass, CBS4 NEWS

Published September 25, 2008 at 3:09 p.m.

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