Poll: Obama regains lead in Colorado
By Bill Scanlon, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)
Published September 23, 2008 at 8:26 a.m.
Updated September 23, 2008 at 8:26 a.m.
Barack Obama has regained the lead over John McCain in Colorado and has maintained his lead in the three other battleground states being followed by the Quinnipiac University poll.
Obama is favored by 49 percent of likely voters in Colorado, versus 45 percent for McCain.
McCain had held a one-point lead in Colorado in late August.
The poll of 1,418 likely Colorado voters, taken Sept. 14-21, has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.6 percentage points.
Obama leads by four points in Michigan, two points in Minnesota and seven points in Wisconsin.
And Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Mark Udall broke a tie with Bob Schaffer, leading the Republican by 8 percentage points in the September poll.
"Two years ago when the Democrats picked Denver for their convention, one of the main reasons was the hope it would help them win Colorado, which is shaping up as a key state in the Electoral College," said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute. "Sen. Obama has come from behind to take the lead there and it is a reasonable assumption that the convention has something to do with this," Brown said.
The poll, conducted in conjunction with the Wall Street Journal and Washington Post, found that those polled chose Obama as the "candidate of change" by wide margins.
"With a lousy economy, an unpopular war and an even less popular Republican president, it's difficult to find voters who don't want change," Brown said.
Obama has made himself the candidate of change by "joining Senator McCain at the hip with President George Bush," and sharply defining himself as the antithesis of the president, Brown said.
The Wall Street meltdown happening while the polling was being done likely "fed the public desire for change and seemed to benefit Senator Obama."
Despite Sarah Palin's explosion onto the scene, more voters in each state said they would rather see Democratic vice presidential candidate Sen. Joe Biden become president than Palin.
They did say McCain's selection of the Alaska governor was a good choice.
By a 49 percent to 42 percent margin, Colorado voters would rather see Biden as president. Women pick Biden 52 percent to 37 percent, while men go 46 percent to Palin and 45 percent Biden.
Obama holds a 15-percentage-point lead among Colorado women, while men prefer McCain by seven points, the poll said.
White voters in Colorado favor McCain by seven points, while Hispanics here give Obama a 42-point margin.
Obama has a 10-point lead among Coloradans 35 to 54 years old.
Younger voters are split evenly among the two candidates, while those 55 and over favor McCain by a single point.
Just over half of the Coloradans surveyed said the economy is the most important issue in the election.
Colorado voters gave Obama the nod — by six points — on which candidate better understands the economy.
McCain had a big lead — 34 points — among Coloradans on who better understands foreign policy.
Obama's lead shrunk a couple points in Wisconsin — to seven points — and he maintained his two-point margins in Michigan and Minnesota.
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September 23, 2008
8:30 a.m.
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Biff writes:
I always wonder who and where they are polling? I"ve never gotten a call for one of these? They probably just send someone over to the Auraria campus. Real accurate.
September 23, 2008
8:40 a.m.
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JYP3500 writes:
Biff, I think they call a thousand people in Denver District 1 (Diane Degette's world). I've never been called either, and I don't know a single person who is voting for Barack, so I'm confused.
September 23, 2008
8:41 a.m.
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opinionatedcolo writes:
biff, I would try to explain the complicated process behind the polling, but since you reject any information that does not play into your preconceived notions, it would be a waste of time. Certainly polls have their flaws, but for you to assume that the Wall Street Journal, now owned by the same guy who owns Fox news, is some how faking the polls in Obama's favor is demonstration that critical thinking is beyond your capacity.
After the convention bounces and the Palin bounce and all the yelling and attack ads, the polls are about where we were in August. It will be interesting to see if the debates move anyone.
September 23, 2008
8:45 a.m.
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opinionatedcolo writes:
another brilliant comment by jyp; if his limited circle does not believe something, it must be untrue. Look up "hasty generalization" online and try to learn something today. I am sure you do not know anyone who voted for Ritter, or the Salazars or Clinton for that matter either, but somehow, they got elected. Maybe you need a broader circle of friends.
September 23, 2008
8:46 a.m.
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davies writes:
Obviously, Coloradans believe that terrorists just need a new best friend (see article above) ;-)
September 23, 2008
8:54 a.m.
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DenverDan writes:
Sweet, I knew my home state had it together.Go Obama, Go Broncos and Go USA!!!
September 23, 2008
8:58 a.m.
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gregu710 writes:
I guess this flies in the face of those on these boards (you know who they are) who have been DESPERATELY trying to paint a picture of Dems panicking and scurrying in every direction after the Palin bomb was dropped. Yep, the big whoop is all whooped out, and now it's back to the real world. I'm sure McCain will get a big boost from her big UN introduction. Let's see, she's going there not to really get exposed to international events and topics, but more to get her picture taken with people who ARE exposed to international events and topics. I guess just like in the old college days, she's going to absorb this knowledge and wisdom through osmosis! And for those of you on the boards decrying the "flawed polls" I know of only 2 or 3 people directly who are even considering McCain, all of whom have always been straight-ticket Republicans. The VAST majority are voting for Obama, but hey, I'm probably just making that up...
September 23, 2008
9:04 a.m.
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SlouchingTowardBoulder writes:
NRA is starting to carpet bomb select states with TV and radio advertisements. Colorado is one of the states. These ads will innundate radio stations in the 3rd Congressional District - I fully expect that they will make a difference.
September 23, 2008
9:15 a.m.
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Woodrow writes:
Hey McCain supporters, read the daily headlines! Its the Dems that are fighting for provisions in this 700B bailout package that protect average Americans and limit huge payouts to senior leadership of these failed companies.
If the Repubs had their way they would just bail out all of thier buddies like they have been doing for a VERY long time, don't you see that? How stupid and blind do you have to be not to see how you are getting fleeced by these people.
If you are not filthy rich, you have NO business supporting this party or its leaders.
Just know that you are going to lose this election, thank GOD!!
September 23, 2008
9:18 a.m.
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ActualThinker writes:
You have to figure the NRA ads are really going to affect those who think owning a machine gun is what the founding fathers were thinking of when they said the right to bear arms. Those people are already voting republican so it's kind of moot. Same with why abortion ads aren't readily pushed even though people on here like to bring it up, if abortion was a big topic for you then Jesus Christ could run on the democratic ticket and you'd still vote republican. It's issues like the economy, oil, and the war that are going to get people's minds made up.
I do love how when McCain was winning it was "haha yeah, in your face" but now that he's not it's "I bet these polls aren't being done accurately". Really there is no advantage to being the winner in polls, it allows the other guy to play the underdog card, and insures more of his base turns out, if Obama had a ten point lead going in to the election it would hurt him because people would see the lines, taking off work, etc. and think they dont need to bother since he will win. There isn't an advantage there.
Anyway if you are interested in polling, the only site I trust is www.fivethirtyeight.com it's written by a baseball statistician that used some of the basic models he created to predict baseball success (where he was very accurate) to add up polls and other factors towards political success. In the primaries this site was the only one that was off by a few % on just two states, they blew everyone away in terms of accuracy.
September 23, 2008
9:18 a.m.
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jmg writes:
I dont think this election is as close as it's being made out to be either. I've never been called for one of these polls. none of my freinds have either. They dont call us 25-35 somethings that only have cell phones. Obama is doing really well among this age group.
September 23, 2008
9:22 a.m.
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dilligaf writes:
JYP3500
Well it sounds like these pollsters need to start just calling people you know. That should be more accurate. WHAT A MORON!!
September 23, 2008
9:24 a.m.
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fishoutawater writes:
After watching the Republicans follow the Democrats ideas about forign policy (last few months), and the economic meltdown that the current administration has set us up for, how can anyone possibly vote Republican in Nov.? Can you believe that after having to clean up the economic destruction of a Republican Administration back in 93 (remember the late 80's early 90's), the Democrats will have to do it again in 08, and that some people will still vote Republican thinking its about tax hikes and gun ownership? I remember the economy during Clinton. You'd think some of these NRA NEOCONS would be praising Clinton for his mistake. Oh wait, they would if it was a male he diddled with. Ha ah, Minn Senator. How can you be so scared that you vote against your own wishes? McCains adds are so false its pathetic, but you'll let him draw you in like Bush has. Shaggy is a perfect example, its not about being right, its about doing whats best. Let it go man!
September 23, 2008
9:24 a.m.
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rorygebbers writes:
cynical one writes;
So, you really think that Murdock would pressure the media outlets that he owns to push his political agenda???
It's hard to type that with a straight face.
No! Never would Murdoch ever do that! He is a paragon of the 4th Estate! Fair and Balanced all the way. I had trouble typing THAT with a straight face.
September 23, 2008
9:27 a.m.
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rorygebbers writes:
Cynical, I did not read your comment correctly. Apologies from Gebs.
September 23, 2008
9:45 a.m.
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SteveM writes:
Shaggy et al were loving the polls a week ago when McCain was ahead..."oh my Dumbocrats are hurting now" I believe was your sentiment, but now they're crap. Hmm. Not sure what that proves about you all. Loved the first poster who says pollsters probably just went over to Auraria as if to imply that all college kids are voting for Obama. Isn't this campus the home of the student who got all upset about a certain paper she was assigned that you people have been assailing for days now?
But, none of this is surprising given that the one sure thing about neo-con Republicans we've all grown to count on, and that is your double standards and double speak. You change your opinions on everything to suit your current needs.
September 23, 2008
9:50 a.m.
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fishoutawater writes:
If Republicans are against taxes and wellfare give-aways, commonly set up by caring Democrats, then why are they giving so much money away? To whom?
Forcing tax increases on the American people can come in many shapes and sizes, I guess Republicans like to MAKE it happen rather than VOTE on it!
Thats not the American way.
How much is this bail-out, divide it by number of citizens, prepare to be amazed and think about your views on policy, especially economic.
BTW - I love hunting with my guns. Bring on the NRA adds. Thats the most obviously Republican agenda scam ever. Talk about companies (Gun lobbyists) influencing politics! I've never found a state where I can load more than 3 shells, when hunting, much less a few hundred in a semi-auto, a rediculous gun with no purpose other than gang killing. To think we'll loose our rights if we restrict certain guns is rediculous at best. DEMOCRATS SUPPORT GUN OWNERSHIP!
September 23, 2008
9:52 a.m.
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Cowboy63 writes:
What?! Obama was OUT of the lead?
A month ago they were saying Obama was going to win this election 75-25. What happened?
Oh well. I guess we'll still go through the motions of having an actual election anyway. The sooner the better!
September 23, 2008
9:57 a.m.
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Nobama writes:
We shall see. Guess when you factor in the "6% racial factor", things don't look so good for Obama. I'm not saying I believe that, but you see something new in the polls everyday. I don't put any stock into them. You Liberal lefties are going to look real silly after election day.
September 23, 2008
10:16 a.m.
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usmcmustang writes:
So, if the poll has a 2.6 margin of error, and the "score" is 49 Obama and 45 McCain, couldn't it theoretically also be 47.6 McCain and 46.4 Obama? That would go right along with McCain's "one point lead" mentioned in the article. Plus, I think I remember a poll saying 56 % for McCain just last month during the DNC. Anyway, why exactly are these polls important? Are they trying to tell us who to vote for "because Candidate X is going to win anyway"? It kinda makes one wonder.
September 23, 2008
10:23 a.m.
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LoneTreeLady75 writes:
I think Shaggy, Nobama and Cowboy are all the same person...hmm?
September 23, 2008
10:25 a.m.
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Sensible writes:
Obamamama is to Colorado
like
black is to white
Obamamamama is to New York
like
stink is to...
(just trying to make a simple compare and contrast for the simple minded folk)
September 23, 2008
10:30 a.m.
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DenverDan writes:
Shag roll over and let NBama type now, it is his turn.
September 23, 2008
10:30 a.m.
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chickenlittle1234 writes:
It's amazing how so few - either in Washington or on Wall Street - saw this meltdown coming, especially since it's been underway for a year already. That's what makes me so suspicious of Paulson's motives - as if we would want to give anyone in this administration a blank check based on their track record of getting blank checks and botching things.
But back to the poll. The only one that counts is the one we'll be hearing about on the night of Nov. 3.
September 23, 2008
10:46 a.m.
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joggle writes:
Big_D: "They are playing fiddle as we burn."
Nice reference, but they aren't THAT bad (ie, as bad as Nero). They're pretty awful though, I'll give you that much. I'd say they're more 'Let them eat cake' kind of bad, at least to poorer people. To richer ones, it would be more like 'Want more cake? Here ya go.'. And then, when people start asking questions, they'll reply 'The cake is a lie.' :-).
September 23, 2008
10:59 a.m.
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opinionatedcolo writes:
In what world do you expect to get shaggy or cowboy to listen to logic or reason? The joy of their world is their totally unjustified confidence in their own infallibility. silly things like consistency or rationality would impinge on that world and force them to face their own massive limitations.
September 23, 2008
11:02 a.m.
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T1anda writes:
Typical RMN Obama bias. (yawn)
September 23, 2008
11:14 a.m.
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Biff writes:
the RMN is so Dem/Obama biased it makes me sick to my stomach.....I've said this once and I'll say it again...
The Dem moto is: "I'm angry, I'm lazy....and...by god...I'm voting for Obama".
September 23, 2008
11:19 a.m.
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H20 writes:
Do you see a common theme here with Shaggy, Cowboy, Nobama, and Biff? Hmmm
September 23, 2008
11:22 a.m.
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dakar writes:
They haven't even had any debates yet. Hardly anyone knows what others policies would be. Mostly negative ads and people so one sided they can't see anything beyond their own candidate. People seem to vote for President more on who they like than what they'll do. I asked a guy who is for Obama - why do you like Obama and what is he going to do for you? All he could tell me is "I just want someone different in there". Well heck, I'm sold.
September 23, 2008
11:23 a.m.
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gregu710 writes:
"Biff writes:
the RMN is so Dem/Obama biased it makes me sick to my stomach.....I've said this once and I'll say it again..."
And yet, here you are again. If it's such a horrible biased rag, why are you here? Frankly, it seems rather evenhanded to me, but then I'm one of those crazy people who believes in rational thought, so what do I know?
"The Dem moto is: "I'm angry, I'm lazy....and...by god...I'm voting for Obama""
Well, see now, that makes absolutely NO SENSE whatsoever Biff old boy, since any good conservative knows that all good Dems hate God and the US, so why would they say "by god"? I guess it's time to crawl back under that rock of yours with Shaggy, Cowboy and Nobama....
September 23, 2008
11:29 a.m.
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gregu710 writes:
Don't worry Big D, as soon as Sarah comes out of her Top Level International Thinktank/Conference/Photoshoot (but NOT interview!!!), there's going to be a 30 point jump in the polls in favor of McCain, you just watch and see!!! She's going to come out of this together with McCain and her new-found knowledge and deliver a rousing speech and 10 point plan that's going to turn this country around! They are the candidates of Change, don't ya know....
September 23, 2008
11:37 a.m.
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Biff writes:
I just think its kind of funny how me, shaggy, cowboy and nobama are the only 4 repubs posting on a blog with 50 democratic bloggers....the difference between you and I actually is quite simple....greg old boy.....I WORK...and you spend all of your time....and your employeers time (which is unfortunate) blogging...
September 23, 2008
12:02 p.m.
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jay writes:
the bounce is officially over:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epol...
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epol...
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epol...
September 23, 2008
12:10 p.m.
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gregu710 writes:
"Biff writes:
I just think its kind of funny how me, shaggy, cowboy and nobama are the only 4 repubs posting on a blog with 50 democratic bloggers....the difference between you and I actually is quite simple....greg old boy.....I WORK...and you spend all of your time....and your employeers time (which is unfortunate) blogging..."
Really Biff, what is it that you're doing right now, blogging, or working. Plus, you assume I'm voting for Obama, and that I'm a Dem, just because I don't like McCain/Palin, but you know what they say when you assume, don't you? Actually, I work, pay taxes, and everything else. How do I know you're not some welfare queen somewhere just trying to stirr up the pot.
September 23, 2008
12:12 p.m.
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ActualThinker writes:
I've seen the Fannie Mae remarks posted by Shaggy a few times so I thought I'd post this in hopes someone can read this to him in words he can understand. Basically yes Obama has rec'd a lot of money from Fannie Mae EMPLOYEES, but McCain is leading by FAR when it comes to donations by fannie Mae directors and up (you know the people that make the real decisions at these companies)
From: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/...
Federal law forbids candidates from receiving money directly from companies. The nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics tracks donations from employees of various companies. The center's list of contributions from Fannie and Freddie employees places Obama second. Ahead of him is Sen. Chris Dodd,
Democratic chairman of the Senate Banking Committee.
The total listed for Obama is $126,349 — a tiny fraction of the approximately $390 million his campaign has raised, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. The list shows McCain has received a total of $21,550 from Fannie and Freddie employees. The list includes donations of at least $200 from those who receive paychecks from Fannie and Freddie. It also includes donations from political action committees — pooled contributions from employees. Obama decided early in his presidential run not to accept PAC contributions, but the Center for Responsive Politics' list includes all contributions for members of Congress dating back to 1989 — including Obama and McCain's Senate campaigns.
The New York Times has published a separate list looking at contributions from "directors, officers, and lobbyists for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac" for the 2008 campaign cycle. That list — using figures from the Federal Election Commission — shows McCain receiving $169,000, while Obama received only $16,000.
Explaining the difference, the Center for Responsive Politics said on its Web site that it does not include members of the board of directors because they could serve on boards of various companies. Their contributions are listed along with other employees of the companies they work for. And the center says lobbyists usually represent multiple clients as well, so their contributions are listed under their lobbying firms — except in-house lobbyists, who are included in the center's list.
The mortgage giants Fannie and Freddie became symbols of the nation's economic mess — and, to critics, of corporate greed — after the government recently took them over to bail them out, making donations linked to the company in any way potential political fodder.
VERDICT
Partially true, but misleading. Donations don't come from companies. A list of employee contributions puts Obama second, but a different list including lobbyists and directors shows McCain getting more.
September 23, 2008
12:17 p.m.
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gregu710 writes:
Big D, i think you're missing my apparently not-so-obvious sarcasm in my posts. Rest assured, I'm not voting for McCain/Milf, although in all fairness, I'm not exactly chomping at the bit to vote for Obama either. I see him as the lesser of the 2 evils, and I'm hoping he lives up to the hype, but see both parties as the sole cause of the downfall of this country (if some REAL change doesn't come SOON!)
September 23, 2008
12:25 p.m.
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gregu710 writes:
by the way biff, I hope you use more thought in whatever work it is you do for you employer than you do posting here, or YOUR employer is the one getting short-changed. Now, I've got to get back to scamming the welfare system, ooops, I mean working!
September 23, 2008
12:36 p.m.
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timothyc writes:
JYP3500, you don't know a single person who is voting for Obama? Where do you live and work? I know plenty of people on both sides; my neighborhood, of course, is full of Obama signs, with McCain signs scattered here and there.
Hopefully, I will not be living on an island of blue in a sea of red, but wou'll be living on an island of red in a sea of blue. Colorado is catching on slowly but surely.
Go Obama!
September 23, 2008
1:06 p.m.
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timothyc writes:
cynical_one, I think it depends on the neighborhood. There are a lot of people out there who are still undecided. That's not a bad thing, as politics needs to be taken seriously, with a lot of thought put into the decision. I live more towards downtown, a staunchly democratic neighborhood, but I work in Littleton, which leans more republican.
September 23, 2008
1:14 p.m.
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ActualThinker writes:
All that article about the times slamming them but no mention on if their allegations were true or not? Is that not an issue? If mccain's campaign is so worried about biased media are they having the same conversations with Fox News then in the interests of non-slanted news? Bottom line if its true then its not slanted on either side, if its not true then it needs to be corrected immediately, thats the real issue.
September 23, 2008
1:20 p.m.
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gregu710 writes:
ActualThinker, yes it is true. You don't need to worry about that though, but moreso about the obviously blatant slander of the NYT.(grin) I am quite sure that we can believe Mr. Schmidts comments that his lobbying group is just out there to promote home ownership. Isn't that why all lobbyists do what they do, the help out the little guys? Wow, I never knew that there was a group of lobbyists out there trying to get me into a new home, where have you guys been?!
NOW, in all fairness to the McCain campaign, I don't think you will find ANY candidate who is going to correct a journalist or story that incorrectly favors them, do you?
September 23, 2008
1:35 p.m.
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rorygebbers writes:
McCain is a child of privilege, and is COUNTRY CLUB FIRST.
McCain backed the INVASION of IRAQ and sent our families to DIE in IRAQ for insanity and OIL.
McCain has ALWAYS been a “D” student and he knows nothing of the economy or of TRUTH.
McCain has EIGHT homes and was given or has TAKEN everything he wanted from women to money.
McCain was a CENTRAL Figure in the Savings and Loan scandal with Charles Keating!
McCain is 100% part of the cause of deregulation and the current crisis at the banks and Wall Street!
McCain wants to BET your Social Security in the STOCK MARKET and SEND our kids to DIE in IRAN for his OIL lobbyists friends.
And Palin, when McCain dies will force women to bear the children of RAPE and INCEST when she isn’t trying to destroy education or the environment.
September 23, 2008
1:44 p.m.
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fastnloose writes:
Rorygebbers,nice post,proves the lefties are losing their minds in this long campaign.Biden will fake medical issue and Hillary will be back,you heard it here first.
September 23, 2008
1:56 p.m.
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Cowboy63 writes:
LoneTreeLady75 writes: "I think Shaggy, Nobama and Cowboy are all the same person...hmm?"
Sorry, Ma'am... not the same.
Shaggy is the "cool" one, Nobama is the "smart" one, and I'm the "good looking" one.
September 23, 2008
2:06 p.m.
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gregu710 writes:
cynical_one, did it say anything about "fair and balanced" on their website...
Ha, ha, ha! Even my firewall here at work wouldn't let me go to that website (it automatically filters out all BS)
September 23, 2008
2:20 p.m.
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Biff writes:
Good afternoon my man Greg,
Well, actually I do own my company....so I can afford to blog here and there every once in a while.....I can also afford to work out at the Denver Athletic Club....not the City of Denver Rec facilities...when I play golf Greg....I play at Cherry Hills....not City Park or Park Hill....when I eat out at nights, I prefer Elways or perhaps Cherry Creek Grill....not Chilies....you see Gregy my man, these are some of the accoutrements that go along with success.
Good luck buddy and keep punching in the time clock so you get your hours!
September 23, 2008
2:47 p.m.
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gregu710 writes:
Biff, I'm sure your mommy is very proud of you. Now, since we have no idea if you just make this all up, I'll just clap my little hands for you and tell you how proud I am of your accomplishments. Now, having said that, I will say that it has been my experience, almost without exception, that those who talk about how successful they are, are typically about 90% talk, and 10% reality. Generally, the friends I have who are self-made are very quiet about it, but I realize not everyone is so modest. As for me, well I work as a poor schlepp mid-level Engineer for the biggest bearing manufacturer in the world, and although not a tycoon like you, am quite sure I can match you, accomplishment for accomplishment, of course, in my own little non-contributing way. By the way, instead of going to the gym or Elways, how about getting a spell-checker. It's "Chilis" not "Chilies", but then since you don't loiter with riff-raff, I'm sure you probably don't care that much how it's spelled. Personally, I prefer to spend my time with "normal" people, not elites like yourself (although I find it so funny that you are so elite, yet rail against elites like Obama....)
Night night, time to punch out on the old time clock and tell the Boss Man that I'm headin' back to the shack!
September 23, 2008
3:20 p.m.
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Reason writes:
"They dont call us 25-35 somethings that only have cell phones. Obama is doing really well among this age group."
I've been called twice by the Obama camp looking for money on the weekends. I was going to vote for Nader, but I think I'll vote McCain out of spite, f#$%^^&& a#&#&*@ annoying me on the weekend. I hear that Obama is doing real well among teenaged Xbox Live voters too, too bad the California idea of child votes didn't go through.
September 23, 2008
3:42 p.m.
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Biff writes:
Hi there greg....you know successful people....wow....just so you know mr. smarty-engineer-spelling-police-guy, I can glote all I want, because you'll never know who I am. It's the nice thing about internet blogs.
Also, I barely graduated from college....I made horrible grades....and I have not always been successful in my life. I'm a people person....I can have a conversation with the guy changing my oil at grease monkey just as easy as I can the CEO of a large oil and gas company. Yes Greg, I am very good in sales! I just like ribbing people like you Greg...you think you have everything figured out in this little world of ours. Trust me Greg....your idea of normal is much different than my idea of normal.....an elitest I am not, do I hang out with successful people...you bet your arse I do! There is a huge difference between cocky and confident....I am not cocky...but I'm very confident....something that you, my friend, need a little bit of! May I suggest a book for you to read. Its called Psycho-Cybernetics by Maxwell Maltz, M.D. I think you would find it very helpful. I sure did.
Take it easy buddy.
September 23, 2008
4:07 p.m.
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joggle writes:
Reason: "I was going to vote for Nader, but I think I'll vote McCain out of spite, f#$%^^&& a#&#&*@ annoying me on the weekend."
If you're registered as an independent of course you're going to get called. If you weren't called by the McCain campaign then just fault that on them not having nearly as many volunteers as Obama has here in Colorado (Obama has 29 regional offices in Colorado, McCain only has 9 -- just check their websites to confirm).
While you say here that you're voting out of spite, based on your past posts I don't believe you and you're just trying to get a rise out of Obama supporters by claiming that you're stupid enough to vote for someone out of spite of the volunteers of the other campaign (I don't think you're that stupid).
September 23, 2008
4:20 p.m.
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joggle writes:
Reason: Also, the person you were responding to was talking about people taking polls. Political campaigns are explicitly exempt from the no-call list law and they generally have no idea whether they are calling a cellphone or not (the volunteers don't know anyway). At least on the weekend it doesn't use any minutes under most calling plans.
September 23, 2008
4:43 p.m.
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gregu710 writes:
Biff, cocky no, confident in my work, yes. Got the track record to prove it. Like you, I barely made it out of high school alive, solely due to my own distraction with the fairer sex, but came back after doing a stint in the Navy, and finished my BS, Magna Cume(can't spell it the right way, the spelling police are looking) Laude. Worked my way through on my own, and my GI Bill, so yes, I feel confident, but it wasn't a cakewalk, and I've made more mistakes than I can count, but I do my best to learn. Along the way I was that "grease monkey", and well, my idea of "normal", you can't frankly know what I consider normal, since although I worked my way up, I came from a fairly successful family, and so have seen things from both sides of the street. I'm quite sure I never claimed to have things figured out, but my gut instinct has steered me clear of sh#t salesmen, and hasn't failed me yet. Didn't need a book to tell me that either. Doesn't matter to me whether someone is as successful as Bill Gates, or as down to earth as my next-door neighbor, to me it matters how that person handles themselves, that they show some sign of using what God gave them in the thinking department (note I am not saying book smart, I am saying someone who thinks their way through things), and that they are honest. I have very low tolerance for smarty-pants people, blowhards, hypocrites, people who try to bait other people, and people who think that they are Gods gift to the world....
September 23, 2008
5:29 p.m.
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Wizard101 writes:
The REAL Barack Obama: Everything that you did not want to know:
. Flip Flops - abortion, gun control, Iraq troop withdrawal, campaign
financing, taxes (capital gain), FISA, economic plans, running for
President
. Affiliations - Wright, Farrakhan, Rezko, Ayers, ACORN, David Kernell
George Soros, CPUSA, Khalidi, Penny Pritzker
. Inexperience - 143 Days in the US Senate - never voted against Iraq
War
. Debates - Avoids direct questions requiring direct answers - wants
to minimize his exposure to the American Public by avoiding debates; has
put off until just before the elections to have his debates
. Wages- Female Staff .77 cents to the dollar
. Berg Lawsuit
. Logan Act
. Voting Record - Present or not taking a stance - not a unifier -
voted yes three times for babies born alive due to failed abortion be
allowed to die -
. International Experience - wants to sit down at the table with enemy
nations.
September 23, 2008
8:24 p.m.
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Reason writes:
Alright joggle, you've got me, I was just trolling the Rocky Mountain Kos, guilty as charged. I do think it's a pretty bad idea to disturb people with political pressure on the weekend, I get enough of the political attack ads when I watch the news.
Also, I don't really intend to vote, I like b!tching about politicians and I don't have grounds to do that I vote(see George Carlin's reasoning on that one).
September 23, 2008
9:05 p.m.
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allelsefollows writes:
Only last week, Obama was giving McCain heat for suggesting the placement of committees and specialists to help the country ride out the financial crisis. http://www.denverpost.com/ci_10481936...
What was that he said? "Sen. McCain offered up the oldest Washington stunt in the book — you pass the buck to a commission to study the problem."
Now...
-As president, Obama said he would create a White House team headed by a chief performance officer to monitor the efficiency of government spending.-
From: http://www.denverpost.com/nationalpol...
Oh dear, it looks like Obama is passing the buck.
September 23, 2008
9:32 p.m.
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joggle writes:
allelsefollows: The difference between the two proposals is that we already know what the problem is in the financial sector and what caused it -- thus, what's the point of McCain's proposed committee? There's already the SEC that's theoretically monitoring the financial sector not to mention the treasury department.
In the case of the other proposal, Obama wants to create a group that has a job that nobody is doing in government (trying to keep things efficient). Generally, the way funding is done in the government now is pretty messed up and even people within the government are upset about it. It basically encourages inefficiency because each year each group reports how much it spent during the previous year. If they spent less than their allocated budget, their budget is cut the following year. If they spent right at or even over budget they get as much if not more money the next year. There's really no rewards built in for running each department well unfortunately.
In the first proposal, McCain is pledging to make a committee to analyze a problem where the causes are obvious (similar to Bush proposing further analysis of global warming or making a committee to consider stem cell research--the results of which he ignored anyway). There's no point to such committees other than to make it seem that you're doing something about an issue when your true intention is to do nothing at all and simply want to delay doing anything.
Reason: Well, there's no great time to call although they're certainly horrible times (one hard rule is all calls must be made before 9pm local). Volunteers are given a script and are encouraged to hang up immediately if the person they're calling doesn't want to talk (don't want to antagonize a potential supporter after all). They might ask "I'm a volunteer for the Obama campaign. Do you have time to talk now?" and if you say "no" then they'll mark you down as 'call refused' and hang up. Of course, since they're volunteers, your mileage may vary. Then you might ask, why risk antagonizing people in the first place? Well, many volunteers don't start volunteering until they're directly asked to by the campaign by phone. Also (obviously) it's a great way to raise money for the campaign. As for calling on the weekend vs the weekday evenings, both are leisure time for most people so I'm not sure if generally it's much worse to call at one time or the other.
I have mixed feelings about being 'forced' to vote. If I really didn't like either candidate I'd probably either write in the candidate I want or vote for a leading third-party candidate. Fortunately I haven't had to do that (yet).
September 23, 2008
10:54 p.m.
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rmtalker writes:
How can these numbers be so low? I NEVER get called for these polls and I'm absolutely voting against ALL Republicans, now and forever. I despise these con-artists entirely.
September 23, 2008
11:09 p.m.
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rmtalker writes:
Virginia has already flipped over to Obama.
Ohio is in the process of flipping over to Obama. Give it a week.
September 24, 2008
10:19 a.m.
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jay writes:
it's still the economy, stupid.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26862018/
September 24, 2008
1:04 p.m.
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Wagthedog1001 writes:
Now we will be treated to a lot MORE dirty, nasty name-calling, lies, and negative advertising from the right. It'll be a long six weeks, my friends.
The mcCain Mutiny will not work.
mcCain has tried everything but killing the Able.
Vote for America. Vote Obama/Biden 2008
September 24, 2008
1:27 p.m.
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obamaforchange writes:
I'm voting for him, and they didn't poll me either.. uh oh!
September 29, 2008
5:40 a.m.
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Treehugger53 writes:
Among the many reasons NOT to vote for McCain are the fact that he has had melanoma (the deadliest type of skin cancer) FOUR times. The American Cancer Society estimates a 66% chance of recurrence within 10 years, and in McCain's case, SIX OF THOSE YEARS HAVE PASSED.
Sarah Palin might be qualified to sit in the Senate and look bored, but she is NOT ready to step in as President if something happened to McCain. Anyone who thinks she is, is either naive or psychotic.