Palin fires up state races
Alaska governor's influence extends to legislative races
By Ed Sealover, Rocky Mountain News
Published September 22, 2008 at 12:05 a.m.
Sarah Palin has energized voters in both major parties.
Photo by Barry Gutierrez / The Rocky
Holly Hansen, Republican candidate in House District 31, canvasses along East 104th Avenue in Thornton on Friday. The 35-year-old working mother of two making her first run for office believes Sarah Palin's candidacy "will energize young suburban moms to get out and vote."
Sarah Palin's presence on the Republican ticket is causing a ripple effect that's being felt even on the streets of Thornton.
That is where two women - Democratic Rep. Judy Solano and Republican challenger Holly Hansen - are knocking on doors to drum up support for their legislative candidacies. They are encountering working mothers who see someone they can relate to on the GOP ticket, as well as women who are offended at what they consider John McCain's attempts to pander to them.
The House District 31 race is an example of how candidates are coming to grips with the idea that the Alaska governor has energized voters who might not otherwise have much interest in the election.
Both political parties believe that energy will trickle down to legislative races spurring women voters to get behind female candidates who remind them of Palin - or stand in contrast to her.
Hansen, a 35-year-old working mother of two making her first run for office, has gone to homes where unaffiliated female residents said they have never voted Republican but are open to considering GOP candidates.
"Outside the political spectrum, people like me are looking for role models. I think her candidacy will energize young suburban moms to get out and vote and support local candidates," Hansen said. "I think Sarah Palin kind of gives permission to some of those disenfranchised women who have felt that the party was out of touch to come back and look at the party again."
GOP officials identified as many as eight legislative races for suburban seats that are held or targeted by Democrats in which Republican women candidates could benefit from the so-called Palin effect.
Return to 'heart issues'
It is those suburban female voters, often known collectively as the soccer moms, who have played a large role in the Colorado GOP's defeats. Feeling that Republicans have concentrated too much on social issues rather than matters important to their lives, they have voted in larger numbers for Democrats since 2004 and have turned former GOP safe areas from red to blue.
Palin's appeal is that she can relate to those women on "heart issues" - education, health care, public safety - that Republicans too often haven't discussed, said Katie Witt, the GOP challenger in Longmont-centered Senate District 17. Once those women open the door to voting for the GOP at the top of the ticket, they are willing to look at other races, too, Witt said.
Legislative Republicans have been known for their male-dominated caucus in recent years. Just five of the 40 Republicans in the House and Senate are women.
The party worked to find quality female candidates this year, Colorado Republican Party Chairman Dick Wadhams said.
Pushing the momentum
The reaction to Palin has been swift and apparent. GOP headquarters distributed 15,000 McCain/Palin signs in the 10 days after she joined the ticket.
State Rep. Amy Stephens, R-Monument, said she met both independent and Democratic women - as well as women who'd never before cared about politics - at a Colorado Springs rally where Palin appeared.
Pushing that momentum down to the legislative level will involve one-on-one contact between female candidates and the suddenly interested and open voters, said Witt, a 36-year-old soccer mom.
"It just gives normal people a role model in government," Witt said. "Sarah Palin, I think, of all the candidates on the top of all the tickets, she is the one that is easiest to relate to."
But some Democrats say they also have seen an energizing of their base since Palin came onto the national scene.
Rep. Anne McGihon, D-Denver, said as soon as Palin joined the GOP ticket, she began hearing from a new swath of women wanting to volunteer.
These women, both traditional Democrats and moderates, felt McCain chose a running mate based on gender rather than preparedness for office, she said.
Some Democrats have even taken to comparing their opponents to Palin. Sen. Brandon Shaffer, whom Witt is challenging, wrote in a campaign e-mail that Witt, like Palin, is out of step with most voters on important social and educational issues.
"What people are concerned about is the economy and making sure their job is secure. And at the end of the day it doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman, it's whether you can handle the issues," the Longmont Democrat said.
McGihon conceded that many Democrats worried initially about Palin's popularity, but said that talk has faded as the economy falters and news of controversies surrounding the governor come out.
Colorado College political science professor Bob Loevy said the presidential race is likely to have coattails down to the legislative races only if McCain and Palin sweep the state by a large margin.
John Straayer, a political science professor at Colorado State University, said the conservative Palin will get some women to take a look at the GOP but will alienate some moderates, too. She could swing 100 or so votes in a race, but not the thousands the Republicans need to take back a House where Democrats hold a 15-vote advantage, he said.
"It's not inconsequential," Straayer said in describing Palin's impact on local races. "Could it make a difference in a tight race? Yes. Is it going to lead to a capture of the requisite eight seats? I would bet heavily against it."
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September 22, 2008
3:32 a.m.
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AKdan writes:
The October 2008 issue of Field and Stream is highly recommended for anyone who cherishes their 2nd Amendment rights.
Especially important is page 85 of the article - where Barack Obama is asked about his quote on people 'clinging' to guns, and he says that he should have said 'relied on' instead of 'clinging to.'
'Why' - Field and Stream asks?
Obama replies, 'Because people have given up on the government on fixing their economic problems, so they have moved on to something else, guns being that something else.'
(And Obama clearly doesn't want those 'bitter' people to use their guns to say... oppose 'Tryanny' like that of oppressive taxes, right?)
Obama is then asked: 'Do you agree with the Supreme Court's decision' concerning the second amendment.
His answer: 'What I think it has done is provided some clarity that, in fact, the Second Amendment is an individual right and that law-abiding gun owners can't be prevented from going out and hunting, protecting their family on their own.'
Gee Barack Obama, I seem to remember that Bill Clinton had the same point that the Second Amendment gave us the alleged right to hunt ducks - when the 2nd Amendment has NOTHING TO DO WITH HUNTING!
Barack Obama then goes on in the interview to say that the AK-47 is not a hunting arm and should be banned, permanently, from 'civilian hands.' (like he'll ban murder and drug-dealing with his 'magic wand'..)
Obama also answers 'YES' to an assault weapons ban.
They ask McCain the same questions.
McCain's is a very short 'NO' to an assault weapons ban and McCain states that he finds high cap magazine bans purely academic and a waste of time.
Is there any question of who to vote for now?
So, the 'Communist piece of trash', Barack Hussein Obama not only wants to screw up the economy even worse with higher taxes on the very people who create jobs (business owners earning over $250K), but now he says civilians are to be 'permanently' barred from owning AK-47's (which would also include AR-15's and other military style semi-auto rifles)!
What a plan - take away Whitey's 'Assault Weapons' - so Obama and his hoodlums can 'redistribute the wealth' (of whitey) to Obama's oppressed 'tribal brothers' - who can get fully-automatic AK-47's from the same drug cartels who supply these hoodlums with the drugs they turn around and sell to the people who are really the #1 cause of gun crime - Democrats who fund gun violence with their purchase of illegal drugs!!!
Sounds like Obama wants the same of what happened when Rhodesia degraded into the plundering and collapse that Zimbabwe saw when 'whitey's' wealth was 'redistributed' by blacks?
Does this mean another CIVIL WAR is imminent - as CNN, Time and the AP have already printed articles that allege if Obama loses the election - then it has to be because of race - which is literally giving militant Blacks the 'GREEN LIGHT' to engage in RIOTS and a RACE WAR!
September 22, 2008
3:47 a.m.
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roger44 writes:
Even if they wanted to ban the AK's, it's too late. Many citizens have them. Even when the ban was in effect, they could be bought, the dealers put on a stock with a thumb hole and called it a target rifle, thus getting around the ban. Like closing the gate after the horse gets out. They cannot track all weapons, private sales don't have paperwork. Don't read anything into these statements that aren't there, they know they are fighting a losing battle when it comes to our 2ND amendment rights, just a political topic.
September 22, 2008
3:50 a.m.
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Sue3275 writes:
Do you "really" want Obama in charge of keeping YOUR family and the US safe??? Someone that said....."Iran is just a little country, nothing for the US to be worried about"??
Officials: Pakistani Troops Open Fire on U.S. Choppers
Monday, September 22, 2008
Fox News
"ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Pakistani troops and tribesmen opened fire when two U.S. helicopters crossed into the country from neighboring Afghanistan, intelligence officials said Monday.
Meanwhile, suspicion hardened that Al Qaeda or the Taliban were behind Saturday's blast at the Marriott hotel in Islamabad. Some 270 people were wounded, while the dead included the Czech ambassador and two U.S. Department of Defense employees.
......Pakistani Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said the attack was an attempt to "destabilize democracy" in Pakistan, which this year emerged from nine years of military rule."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,4...
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Russia Threatens Military Response if U.S., Poland Follow Through With Missile Defense Deal
Wednesday, August 20, 2008
Fox News
MOSCOW — The United States and Poland signed a deal Wednesday to place a U.S. missile defense base just 115 miles from Russia — a move followed swiftly by a new warning from Moscow of a possible military response.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,4...
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2 Russian Blackjack Bombers Land in Venezuela
Wednesday, September 10, 2008
Fox News
Two Russian strategic bombers landed in Venezuela on Wednesday as part of military maneuvers, the government said, announcing an unprecendented deployment to a new ally at a time when both nations are involved in tense relations with the U.S.
Russia's Defense Ministry said the two Tupelov-160 Blackjack Bombers flew to Venezuela on a training mission.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,4...
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Iran Moves Closer to Nuclear Weapons Capacity
Monday, September 22, 2008
Fox News
VIENNA, Austria — Two years? One? Even less?
Opinions differ on how close Iran may be to being able to develop a nuclear weapon, but concerned governments and experts agree the time to stop Tehran is growing short — and the options limited.
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September 22, 2008
7:02 a.m.
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CBJMM writes:
Senator John McCain’s campaign manager was paid more than $30,000 a month for five years as president of an advocacy group set up by the mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to defend them against stricter regulations, current and former officials say.
September 22, 2008
7:52 a.m.
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Beau writes:
The Presidential race seemed like a bad joke to me. A Marxist Senator who stutters endlessly unless he has a teleprompter and a cranky old guy that's been around Washington forever. Oh, joy.
Now we have Sarah Palin, and I'm not just energized -- I'm on fire to elect this woman. She's an outsider, a non-elite, non-Washington mom who knows how to balance a checkbook. She probably even knows what a utility bill looks like.
As far as "pandering" to women goes, well, Obama could have selected the capable, proven and popular Hillary Clinton, couldn't he? He was too threatened, too scared, so he didn't, and John McCain went ahead and had the guts to tap a woman for the Vice Presidency.
I ready to work hard to get this team elected. I'm fired up.
September 22, 2008
7:52 a.m.
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fastnloose writes:
A lot of other news outlets think she has run her course,shows you how dumb these so called experts are.They hate surprises and it stumps them when they actually have to report news as it happens.Go Fox news what would we do without you?
September 22, 2008
7:55 a.m.
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INC writes:
AKdan, nice cut and paste re-post...& Sue3275,
the article was about Sara phalin.
granted it did not cover her abuse of power or republicans loss of truth, honor or dignity. it talked about how when Sara came on the national scene her mystery was an energizer. however as we learn more about her and how she is a:
Foreign policy expert because she can see Russia from Alaska.
Her absolute Ignorance of the Bush doctrine.
Her willingness to charge victoms for their rape kits.
Her Obvious abuse of power as Gov of Alaska.
Her claim of maverick status running against the "good ol' boys network that is really just her corruption replacing theirs.
Her repeated lies about "thanks but no thanks" yet keeping the money.
Sarah is fading as a player in the big show.
If she were a baseball player, she would have been sent back to the minors last week.
However, I am glad McSame is stuck trying to swim with her dead weight.
September 22, 2008
8:14 a.m.
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Sensible writes:
McCain/Palin '08!!!!
They will...
decrease government and get it OUT OF THE WAY
install self-sustainable energy policies (i.e. NUCLEAR!)
protect your gun rights
let the states regulate baby killing (i.e. ABORTION)
decrease taxes
END the BAILOUTS
GET OUT OF SOCIALIST GOVERNMENTAL POLICIES!
Folks, it's all pretty simple. You just have to get to Washington and LITERALLY work for the good of the citizens of the UNITED STATES.
Not special interests, not political parties, not themselves.
MCCAIN/PALIN '08!!!!
September 22, 2008
8:25 a.m.
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Sensible writes:
roger44 -
You better think twice before you hap-hazardly dismiss gun bans. It is real, and it will happen if Obamamama gets into office.
It's really quite simple when you boil it down. It will begin with voluntary surrender of firearms (for some $$). Then as time progresses a few extreme (set-up) gun crimes will occur and everybody will feel proned to hopping on the bandwagon to BAN ALL GUNS.
It's happened ALL OVER THE WORLD.
As far as I'm concerned they can "ban guns". They'll never get mine and probably will never get yours. BUT that doesn't mean that they won't throw your a$$ in prison if your found with one.
This will happen under Obamamamaa.
There has never been a more critical election in the history of the Untied States.
Vote McCain/Palin '08!!!!!
September 22, 2008
8:35 a.m.
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ollie writes:
Caribou Barbie
September 22, 2008
8:38 a.m.
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Fred1 writes:
CHANGE CHICAGO STYLE?
Body count. In the last six months 292 killed (murdered) in Chicago , 221 killed in Iraq.
Sens. Barack Obama & Richard Durbin, Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr.,
Gov. Rod Blogojevich, House leader Mike Madigan, Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike), Mayor Richard M. Daley (son of former Mayor Richard J. Daley).....the leadership in Illinois .....all Democrats.
Chicago is a combat zone. Of course they're all blaming each other. Can't blame Republicans, there aren't any!
State pension fund $44 Billion in debt, worst in country. Cook County ( Chicago ) sales tax 10.25% highest in country. (Look'em up if you want). Chicago school system one of the worst in country. This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois .
He's gonna 'fix' Washington politics?
September 22, 2008
8:45 a.m.
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Sensible writes:
ollie -
carfeul you might inadvertantly turn some of repubs on.
"Caribou Barbie"... oooohhhh so sexy.
McCain/Palin '08!!!
September 22, 2008
8:51 a.m.
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Barron writes:
"BonR writes: The Presidential race seemed like a bad joke to me. A Marxist Senator who stutters endlessly unless he has a teleprompter and a cranky old guy that's been around Washington forever. Oh, joy."
BonR, if all you can say about Obama is he's a marxist (an ancient, 60's term), and that he stutters, you just flat out haven't been paying attention.
"Now we have Sarah Palin, and I'm not just energized -- I'm on fire to elect this woman. She's an outsider, a non-elite, non-Washington mom who knows how to balance a checkbook. She probably even knows what a utility bill looks like."
You are on fire to elect someone because she can balance a checkbook. LOLOL!!!! This is a straight-up qualification for the highest position in the land!!! By Golly! Tell me, have you sat in her kitchen (with her, while she collected a per diem she wasn't entitled to, hardworking Alaskan taxpayer dollars, non-insider that she is) while she balanced her checkbook? Are you sure?
"As far as "pandering" to women goes, well, Obama could have selected the capable, proven and popular Hillary Clinton, couldn't he? He was too threatened, too scared, so he didn't, and John McCain went ahead and had the guts to tap a woman for the Vice Presidency."
Obama had the good sense to choose the most qualified candidate to run our country should something happen to him, and didn't pander, but nice try. I'm a woman, and I'm certainly not offended by Obama's choice, I applaud it. John McCain, however, showed his true lack of judgement when he BLATANTLY tried to pander to women by just grabbing some chick, who isn't qualified for dogcatcher. That's pandering, and intelligent women all over, and I've talked to them, see right through it. See, here's the deal. Intelligent people don't want someone elected to RUN OUR COUNTRY just because they're just like you and me. Intelligent people want candidates who are smarter, the best, the most capable.
"I ready to work hard to get this team elected. I'm fired up."
I'm glad "you ready." Me too - I'm working really hard to make sure that peop0le become educated.
September 22, 2008
8:52 a.m.
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Cowboy63 writes:
Malachi_Constant - do you have any DIRECT Sarah Palin quotes that support these claims or are all of these third-hand YouTube hearsay?
September 22, 2008
8:58 a.m.
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DenverDan writes:
The prom queen makes Bush look smart, and that makes McCain look dumb. The clear choice for a better direction of our Country is OBAMA!
September 22, 2008
9 a.m.
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Sensible writes:
Barren -
I regret to inform you that your logic is barren (for obvious reasons, I don't want you to think I'm just name calling w/out just cause).
Nutin in der atol.
Bummer for you.... ok moving on.
McCain/Palin '08!!!!!
September 22, 2008
9:03 a.m.
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Sensible writes:
DenverDance -
You would know all about queens wouldn't you!?
Last time we conversed you were bragging about how queeny you were.
Ha!
McCain/Palin '08!!!!
September 22, 2008
9:05 a.m.
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Barron writes:
Sensible, please be sensible and prove your (if it exists) logic. Show me where palin is more than some empty shell and what her achievements have been, and what her qualifications are for VP (other than she has been Governor of a state with less than a million people for less than 2 years).
September 22, 2008
9:27 a.m.
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DenverDan writes:
Sensible
Dont get mad, I would not kick her out of bed for eating crackers.
She is dumber than Bush! Not ready for VP. Not sure she is ready for GOV. You vote for your party first, I vote for Country first. Are you a Redneck?
OBAMA 08
September 22, 2008
9:28 a.m.
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Marshdale writes:
The paranoid attitude on the right is so astounding it is laughable. As a liberal gun owner my right to posess guns is more threatened by legislation that was brought forward in large part by conservatives and some democrats. Yes, I'm talking about the Patriot Act and The Homeland Security Act. Guns are not specifically mentioned, but everything in those two pieces of legislation is designed so your home can be entered into without warrents, your phone calls and e-mails can be listened to illegally just because Homeland security might "suspect" something. "Suspect" being the opperative word. They don't have to have proof to come in and seize your assets at a moments notice.
These are the most dangerous pieces of legislation to gun owners ever written. These peices of legislation give the government a leg up on citizens.
All you gun owners. These are the pieces of legislation that need to be wiped out along with other proposals.
September 22, 2008
9:31 a.m.
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Cowboy63 writes:
Barron writes:"...and what her qualifications are for VP (other than she has been Governor of a state with less than a million people for less than 2 years)."
Sorry, Barron. Being a sitting Governor matters. The last democrat president was Governor of Arkansas. You really want to argue that Arkansas is more "cosmopolitan" than Alaska?
Actually; at last check, being "Governor of a state with less than a million people for less than 2 years" is STILL more experience that Obama, Biden and McCain put together.
I'm sure the Senators know their way around the Washington Cocktail Pary Circuit far better than Palin and get , but none of them has ever had to put together a budget or make executive decisions.
The Left loves to deride Palin for being the Mayor of a town of 8,000 (and forget that she's been Governor for two years now), but those 8,000 votes in Alaska were STILL MORE votes that Biden got in his lame presidential bid.
Look. You can disagree with Palin on her policies all day long and at least you'd have a leg to stand on. But this "lack of experience dog, just won't hunt".
September 22, 2008
9:41 a.m.
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UglyDuck writes:
Thanks, Malachi_Constant! You convinced me to vote for McCain/Palin.
September 22, 2008
9:57 a.m.
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Sensible writes:
DenverDance -
You say "I vote for Country first."
For your statement to be true I must ask:
Are you Iranian? Russian? Chinese? North Korean? Venezuelan?
You must be one of the above, unless your a bold faced LIAR.
Which is it?
oh, by the way:
McCain/Palin '08 for the AMERICANS.
September 22, 2008
10 a.m.
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O_TRAIN writes:
Cowboy63 says... "The Left loves to deride Palin for being the Mayor of a town of 8,000 (and forget that she's been Governor for two years now), but those 8,000 votes in Alaska were STILL MORE votes that Biden got in his lame presidential bid"
Palin received 651 votes for Mayor in 1996 & 909 votes for Mayor in 1999.
Biden received 79,754 votes for President
If you and Palin are going to lie - try something not so lame and easily checked.
www.factcheck.org
September 22, 2008
10:02 a.m.
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fastnloose writes:
Obama+Pelosi+Reid=Disaster. Wake up USA,we need you to stop these extreme lefties more than ever.
September 22, 2008
10:09 a.m.
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ActualThinker writes:
McCain/Palin '08!!!!
They will...
decrease government and get it OUT OF THE WAY
**The only president in the last 30 years to decrease govt was Bill Clinton
install self-sustainable energy policies (i.e. NUCLEAR!)
**Nuclear's a better option than renewable and less dangerous?
protect your gun rights
**Aww yes the right to own a machine gun in the interests of hunting.
let the states regulate baby killing (i.e. ABORTION)
**20 of the last 28 years have been spent with a pro-life candidate in office. Nothing's happened or even close to happening.
decrease taxes
**Obama actually gives a bigger increase to the middle class that need it, but you are accurate if you mean "decrease taxes on the super wealthy"
END the BAILOUTS
**Ummm the bailouts were written by a republican administration that McCain supports. It also helps the wealthy and does nothing for regular people.
GET OUT OF SOCIALIST GOVERNMENTAL POLICIES!
**We are seeing right now what happens when the goverment lets markets move freely
Folks, it's all pretty simple. You just have to get to Washington and LITERALLY work for the good of the citizens of the UNITED STATES.
Not special interests, not political parties, not themselves.
MCCAIN/PALIN '08!!!!
**How do you avoid working for the special interests when they work on your campaign?? How do you not work for political parties when you voted with a very failed president? How do you know how to work with the good citizens that make up the united states when it's been decades since you've had to worry about money and you own 5 houses and 13 cars?? I agree with a lot of the theories you say but its inaccurate to say Mccain or anyone in the republican party will follow them, they abandoned small govt and fiscal responsibility during the Reagan years and never looked back.
September 22, 2008
10:11 a.m.
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Beau writes:
Obama's church is blatantly Marxist (look up black liberation theology and James Cone.) Obama's political cradle is Marxist (look up Saul Alinsky and William Ayers.) Obama's thin voting record in the Senate puts him as the most far left (Marxist) voter in the Senate.
It is positively depressing when people display such ignorance of their own candidate. If you don't know who James Cone and Saul Alinksy are, if you don't know why the Weather Underground use the "fork" symbol to salute each other and why Obama is not only close to William Ayers but served for years on the Annenberg board with him, if you cannot exactly tell me what the Annenberg foundation is, how can you pull the voting lever for Obama?
I hope there's enough educated people in this country who will do their homework and won't vote for Obama. We'll all vote for the team that can actually accomplish something -- McCain/Palin.
September 22, 2008
10:19 a.m.
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DenverDan writes:
Sensible
Running on fear! That was done in 2004. I understand why you dont talk about issues. Just four more years of the same. Better stick to pushing fear. What color code of terror are we on today?
fastnloose
McCain + MILF = Bush3
Wake up USA we need to stop the the free spendind cons running the middle class in the ground.
September 22, 2008
10:33 a.m.
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Sensible writes:
AsholeTinker -
Thanks for setting the record straight.
I'm convinced.
McCain/Palin '08!!!!!
September 22, 2008
10:34 a.m.
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diamondstay writes:
The envy by Democrat women is funny. They want to think they represent the women in the country but it's obvious they don't and they just can't deal with it. The Republicans have usurped their banner for representing women with this smart attractive Sarah Palin. All they can do is gripe about not being fooled by McCains pandering to women by selecting her. They are just jealous and green with envy!
Face it ladies, there are smart women who are Republicans and they don't reject everything that's American like many of the Democrats do. This country didn't get great from the likes of Mr. Obama. It got great from the likes of folks like McCain and Palin.
September 22, 2008
10:37 a.m.
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ActualThinker writes:
For someone named "sensible" you sure don't talk about much substance. Perhaps thats why you havent yet realized the republican party abandoned you decades ago.
And for those that think Palin is so great and qualified tell me why is she still not doing interviews and being prepped by her handlers? Whats going to happen to this "qualified" lady when we have an international issue. Sorry Russia hold on tight we will get back to you in a couple months once we've prepared our VP enough.
September 22, 2008
10:42 a.m.
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jay writes:
for all the intellectual rumbling, bumbling and fumbling we've seen from the far right this election season...
....we still have yet to hear from ANYONE who can justify a vote to continue failed bush policies under McSame...no matter how hot his vp distraction candidate is....
September 22, 2008
10:52 a.m.
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1world writes:
McCain's party did what they needed to do to re-vitalize their race. They enlisted someone that had the charisma of a sports caster, but the intelligence of a newt. That "newt" does have the ambition to walk on two legs, but that is beside the point (and not something she would believe in).
Do we really want a tandem in office that graduated 5th from the bottom of his class (and gladly claims he barely passed) and a running mate that took 6 years and 5 city colleges (not a major University) to get that Journalism degree. Don't get me wrong, I don't begrudge them the time it took or that their grades weren't tops in their class. I just wouldn't hire them to work for my company.
If they are elected, I can envision the leaders from around the world just smacking their foreheads with the heels of their palms saying a collective, "Doh!"
Ignore the gun argument and who would run a better war (forever and ever) and look to the big picture. While both are key issues, they aren't the most important - they are just the low hanging fruit that we cling to when we don't have anything better to say. We need someone that is intelligent and can speak on the same level as all of the other educated Heads of State from around the world. We are not alone here and our current president has bungled Foreign Policy to the point that any other faux pas by another buffoon will put us in even further disdain by those we call our "allies".
The reality is, we probably won't lose our gun rights to ANY president. The reality is, we will not be ANY safer with a Republican in office - a Democratic President will listen to their Joint Chiefs of Staff (something the current Republican administration does NOT do) and react according to REAL information and not emotion, ego or stupidity. In fact, I believe we will be better for listening to our Generals and Admirals. They are the cream of the crop and smarter than many of the Presidents that have "led" them. I know several 4 star Generals and they are some of the most intelligent people I know. They also have your (our) safety in mind and would not jeopardize that for petty political wrangling. This is a global situation and the US cannot navigate it alone. We need to build on our relationships with our allies and mend the fences of those we have wronged in the past 8 years.
"Dumb and dumber" don't have the skill set to be President and I am not willing to have them add to the mess that their stupid cousin (Bush) has created.
I am tired of hearing how ridiculous the US is viewed by the rest of the world every time I travel for work. I am proud of being American, but I am also embarrassed to say so when I am out of the country. We need smarter people running this country, not the dude you want to have a beer with or the woman you want to date.
September 22, 2008
11:01 a.m.
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jay writes:
"How can an intelligent thinker (giving you the benefit of the doubt) actually believe the junior senator is more qualified to make the necessary changes in this country than John McCain and Sarah Palin"
one more time.
policy.
policy.
policy.
obama's policys stances...according to the DATA...have a better track record of success than mccain's.
period.
if you want to base your vote on something other than POLICY STANCES...that's certainly your choice, mcrush...but i urge you to consider the more intelligent alternative.
September 22, 2008
11:08 a.m.
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DenverDan writes:
MrCrush
Instead of looking for a real reason not to vote for the better person (Obama) for our Country. Why don't you just say "I will not vote for a black person"? I will respect that you are a bigot over just sounding stupid and not knowing what you are talking about. You cry over how people in the "media" are not fair to the prom queen. And I have had to hear crap about Obama over the last year and half about his wife, his pastor; he is a terrorist and so on, never about the real issues, just crap. That is how the people run if you got nothing better to offer the people of this Country.
September 22, 2008
11:48 a.m.
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Cowboy63 writes:
DenverDan writes: "Why don't you just say "I will not vote for a black person"?"
Here it comes. The Left is already generating excuses for a possible Obama defeat by blaming it all on racism. No. If Obama loses it will be because the American People aren't quite ready to fully embrace the Socialism that Obama is offering. His race has nothing to do with it.
If America has any problem moving beyond racism - look to the Left. It is the Left that benefits from ever stoking the tribal fires of race, gender and class "war".
September 22, 2008
12:12 p.m.
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DenverDan writes:
Cowboy63
You are truly stupid, Wow there are a lot of you out there. Socialism is what is going on now under Bush. The biggest wealth re-distribution in history is taking place right now. The transfer of everyman's tax-dollars into a welfare program for the rich and reckless. Why are you "conservatives" so deathly afraid of taking accountability for your actions? I thought you were the "personal responsibility" party. When you're ready to man-up and admit you voted for idiots, then I'll cut you some slack for your abject ignorance. And, it seems to me, that everyone that has defended, stood up for or otherwise voted for these criminals has no credibility whatsoever. That is all of you who want four more years of this BS.
September 22, 2008
2:58 p.m.
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jay writes:
"Jay while we can all agree that we need to make some changes "RADICAL SOCIALISM" is not the change that America needs"
sorry, yiota.... as usual...the strawman arguments aren't going to fly here at the rmn.
you might try the blog at www.rushlimbaugh.com...that rhetoric gets a lot of play there.
let's recap.
the POLICY STANCES of obama's have a better track record than mccain's do.
now...if you're not going to base your vote on POLICY...maybe you should do the country a favor and stay home on election day.
September 22, 2008
3:35 p.m.
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jay writes:
"Are you suggesting that "RADICAL SOCIALISM" is the change that America needs?"
again....this is a strawman argument, yiota.
why are you still confused about this, yiota?
again...if you're not going to base your vote on facts and policy stances...i urge you to stay home on election day.
the last thing this country needs is more ignorant, dogmatic voters at the polls.
September 22, 2008
4:55 p.m.
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BrandiWine_84 writes:
I am curious to know what people think about McCain's chief of staff being gay. How many are hoping that Palin and her church will be successful in praying Mr. Buse out of homosexuality?
September 22, 2008
5:57 p.m.
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Barron writes:
"Cowboy63 writes: Barron writes:"...and what her qualifications are for VP (other than she has been Governor of a state with less than a million people for less than 2 years)."
Sorry, Barron. Being a sitting Governor matters. The last democrat president was Governor of Arkansas. You really want to argue that Arkansas is more "cosmopolitan" than Alaska?""
Ummm, yes, actually. Clinton was Governor for more than 10 years and, guess what? He actually did something! Golly jeez, cowboy! Go ahead and post what palin did in her less than 2 years, i'm really interested (yawn). As far as budgets go, any bookkeeper or housewife knows how to put one of those together, so nice try but no cigar. Sorry cowboy, but lack of experience DOES count (unless you are just one-sided, like most of you guys are). See, it counts if you are Obama, but if you are palin it doesn't. Go figure...
September 22, 2008
5:58 p.m.
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Barron writes:
"UglyDuck writes: Thanks, Malachi_Constant! You convinced me to vote for McCain/Palin."
Oh please, as if there was ever a question...
September 22, 2008
5:59 p.m.
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Barron writes:
For those of you posting these 12 page novels, you need to know that nobody is going to read a post that long. Thanks though!
September 22, 2008
6:02 p.m.
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Barron writes:
Bonr and your marxist blather, how do you explain, ooops I mean justify, palin's husband's secession movement? Oh yes, secession is far better than perceived marxism! Um, nice try but not.
September 22, 2008
9:44 p.m.
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BrandiWine_84 writes:
Barron writes: For those of you posting these 12 page novels, you need to know that nobody is going to read a post that long. Thanks though!
I say: Hey now, I read the long posts! They usually have more substance than the short little ones; those are too often just regurgitations of sound bites and catchphrases. The only long ones I skip are from those readers who I have come to find are Crazy and/or Full of Crap. I will not name names, but if you read this and suspect that I may be referring to you, you just may be right . . . .
September 22, 2008
9:47 p.m.
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BrandiWine_84 writes:
Now stop arguing about the same things you've been arguing about for days, weeks, months - and answer my question - what do y'all think about McCain's chief of staff being gay?
September 22, 2008
10:12 p.m.
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jay writes:
again yiota, strawman arguments about "radical socialism" don't play outside of the rush limbaugh fantasy hour.
i'll ask the favor that if you're not going to vote based upon actual policy stances...please stay home on election day.
September 23, 2008
9:43 a.m.
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rg writes:
Right BrandiWine: An extended version of bias and prejudice i.e. common sense is not read. Richard Grimes: Deicide.
Deicide Corner: “No legal ceremony--no election of the woman--no penalty for the perfidy of the man--no law to compel him to do his duty, no compensation for the poor woman who is turned adrift like the girl of the street, penniless, to sell herself on the best possible terms. This is Divine marriage, or Moses and the Bible lie; and this is Bible divorce--putting away!”-- Victoria Woodhull