Highlands Ranch leads in household income
Community also ranks second in education level
Jeff Kassand Burt Hubbard, Rocky Mountain News
Published September 22, 2008 at 7:52 p.m.
Photo by Barry Gutierrez © The Rocky
Teammates from left, Amelia Greene, 11, Keri Dunnaway, 10, and Emma Atwell, 11, practice making a wall to block a free kick from outside the box as they play with the Highlands Ranch Real Soccer Team at Kistler Park in Highlands Ranch, Colo., Monday, Sept. 22, 2008.
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Marrianne Kokes and her two daughters Hannah, 12, right, and Olivia, 8, left, stop to talk about their experience of raising a family in Highlands Ranch at the Town Center Monday, Sept. 22, 2008.
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Donna Walker relaxes while one of her three sons, Michael, 6, cavorts Monday at Big Dry Creek Park in Highlands Ranch. Walker and her husband moved to Highlands Ranch a decade ago and are raising their children in the community.
On the surface, it might seem that Marianne Kokes, a schoolteacher who lives with her husband and three children in Highlands Ranch, leads an unremarkable life.
But according to an analysis of U.S. Census data being released today, Highlands Ranch residents like Kokes are remarkable because they are among the most affluent and well-educated in an affluent and well-educated state.
Colorado has the country's third-highest percentage of college graduates - 35 percent - and the 12th-highest median household income - $55,212.
The median income for a Highlands Ranch household in 2007 was $99,000, the highest in the state for communities of 65,000 population or higher. (The next highest was $66,485 in Thornton.)
Highlands Ranch also had the second-highest percentage of college grads in the state - 64 percent, bettered only by Boulder with 68 percent.
That and other numbers are part of the annual American Community Survey conducted by the U.S. Census Bureau that examines social, economic and housing characteristics.
Colorado state demographer Elizabeth Garner said the Highlands Ranch income data appears to make sense because the area has no housing for low-income people.
"If you don't have housing units for all income levels, you're not going to attract all income levels," she said. "They (Highlands Ranch) do not have a lot of low-income units."
But Jeff Romine, strategic adviser and chief economist for the Denver Office of Economic Development, saw the Highlands Ranch reported poverty rate - the state's lowest at 0.8 percent - as simply too low, given the number of foreclosures and subprime loans racking the area.
The poverty rate is a measure of the population living at or below income levels set by the Census Bureau. For a family of four, it is an income of $21,000 or less a year.
The highest poverty rate in the state was found in Pueblo, at 22.6 percent.
Romine also questioned the validity of some of the numbers for Denver. He noted that many traditionally working-class neighborhoods - Potter Highlands, Sunnyside and Whittier - are changing as wealthier and more educated people "return to the urban core."
"(The survey) is not capturing the economic gentrification," Romine said.
Kokes, 41, said she and her husband moved from Englewood to Highlands Ranch in 1993 because they found an affordable starter home. When they looked for a different home in 1998, they liked what they found in Highlands Ranch.
She said Highlands Ranch is family-oriented and has good schools (the Douglas County School District, where she teaches).
"A lot of people think Highlands Ranch is just a bunch of houses," she said. "But it's like a town."
But she also noted Highlands Ranch is not perfect.
"Everybody looks the same," she said. "You don't see a lot of true poverty, and if people are struggling, they mask it well.
"How do you give your kids a true sense of the world?"
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September 22, 2008
10:24 p.m.
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jay writes:
i wouldn't live in the rat's maze if you bought the house for me.
you might as well be living in cleveland.
September 22, 2008
10:37 p.m.
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EZBakeOven writes:
Yes, but HR residents have to live with painting their houses 20% warm grey or 30% warm grey. No thanks. My house is yellow :-)
September 22, 2008
10:59 p.m.
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Raemid writes:
If they had a category for hottest trophy wives, I'm sure Highlands Ranch would top that category too. I'm in Highlands Ranch occasionally and can't help but babewatch all the hotties driving around in their Lexus grocery-getters.
It's amazing what a little (ok a lot of) money will do to attract hot women and buy younger looks for the women already there. So there's probably a correlation between this and the study listed in this article.
Go Highlands Ranch! Rawr!
September 23, 2008
12:13 a.m.
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rj1967 writes:
HR = Cookie cutter houses, cookie cutter kids, cookie cutter soccer moms. They all make me wanna throw up.
September 23, 2008
7:15 a.m.
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sheepherder writes:
I like Highlands Ranch. The main roads have 45 mile per hour limits, everything is close, there is something to a planned community.
September 23, 2008
7:17 a.m.
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Keyho1297 writes:
I am a young mother of two and have lived in the wonderful city of Highlands Ranch for 10 yrs. I am offended by some of your comments. Not sure why there is so much hatred and neg. Makes you wonder who you are as a person...Everyone that I know and get to know in HR is very devoted to their children (yes, including soccer). Is something wrong with being their for your children and wanting to give them the support they need to succeed?? 64% of collage grads from HR really says it all. Sums up the fact why I live in HR.
September 23, 2008
7:23 a.m.
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tjason11 writes:
In case you were wondering, a number of years ago the North Carolina governor, at the time, was visting Colorado and was given a tour of Highlands Ranch. He was so disgusted at what he saw, he went back home and actually passed a building regulations law called the Highlands Ranch building code that forbids any housing development in the state of North Carolina to be built that resembles/looks like Highlands Ranch.
Planned communities aren't that great. If you want to live close to things, then live in the downtown area.
September 23, 2008
7:24 a.m.
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Tizzy writes:
Highlands Ranch residents like Kokes are remarkable because they are among the most affluent and well-educated in an affluent and well-educated state??
Columnist is saying that HR residents are among the most affluent? I would beg to differ that the most affluent, are most likely residing in places like Cherry Hills Village, Aspen, Vail and Greenwood Village to name a few.
The problem with Colorado's zoning, zip codes, etc. is that you have a place like Cherry Hills Village that is in 80113, however it shares this zipcode with South Englewood which has some poorer communities, it will always skew the numbers to a study with items such as affluence or education.
I think it's a very misleading article. If someone was to move to Colorado and read this, they would think that HR is one of the hot spots for the affluent and educated? Does this article base "education" in terms of HR residents on where they went to school, because you can say someone has higher education if they go to a community college, but does it really compare to a 4 yr. institution like Harvard, Yale, Stanford?
Again, I think most Coloradoans are well aware of the true affluent communities listed above and I believe there should of been mention to how Highlands Ranch compares to these. Is HR 4th on the list or 1st of the list of most educated/most affluent city? The article implies it's the top and well, I seem to think that those living in the Villages, Vail and Aspen tend to have have the earning power these days and the education to boot.
September 23, 2008
8:02 a.m.
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hikingartist writes:
A liberal in HR; yeah, it is a long story. I have lived here for 12 years. Got a great view of Chatfield Reservoir & the foothills, great bike trail access (5 minutes from the Highline Canal, Chatfield dam, etc), my kid has lots of friends and loves the 4 indoor swimming pools/rec centers, and at night when I ride my bike there is no one on the roads. I figure despite what it looks like on the outside a home is made of what is on the inside.
September 23, 2008
8:08 a.m.
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EastVail writes:
Funny. I like the "populations over 65,000" caveat. It's in there because nauseating high-desert suburbia can't hang with Vail, which can't hang with Aspen.
Welcome all to the futile exercise of hoarding material belongings.
September 23, 2008
8:15 a.m.
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Tizzy writes:
Another item that should of been mentioned to truly paint an accurate picture of this article should of been home costs.
If you live in Highlands Ranch, have a home valued at $500,000 and a household income of $100,000 (and a 4 yr degree), is this article implying that they are more educated/affluent than someone living in Greenwood Village, in a home worth $3 Million and a household income of less than $100K?
There was an article back in May 2008 from RMN Columnist John Rebchook that was all about Zip codes with the highest priced homes. Again, it was skewed as it can only really look at zipcodes by the whole. In the Denver Metro, we have so many neighborhoods that fall into the affluent range (Stapleton for example), but they will never see the light of day in any article like this one today or like in May's, because they share zip code and municiple boundaries with average or poorer communities that will always not show the true value of people's homes or incomes in that area.
In the future, columnists at RMN should really not look at places like Highlands Ranch as a whole, or Stapleton, Aurora, etc. If you do your research with Zip codes it will be flawed, if you look at a large city like Aurora as a whole it will be flawed. Not sure I have an answer on how to give an accurate reading of our metro area's neighborhoods, but I do think you don't tell the whole story on these types of articles. On the East Coast most communities are towns and they have their own zip code, town hall, etc. so it's much easier to talk about a community having the best schools, or the highest home sales. Here in our metro area, it's just a different with how cities are divided, zip codes, unicorporated communities. You'd be better off siting statistics where you define the space. For example, those living South of Countyline, north of Lincoln, east of Broadway and west of Yosemite. That area might cover several towns, zip codes, and so fourth, but one would know specifically what community you are talking about.
September 23, 2008
8:25 a.m.
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September 23, 2008
9:04 a.m.
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musicman80 writes:
I live in HR and I love it! My neighborhood is so nice and clean and we all truly get along just great. The schools are fantastic and yes my wife is a hottie too!:)
Most people on here can't stand the fact that some people are truly blessed and enjoy living in a community that has it all!
Be happy!:)
September 23, 2008
9:04 a.m.
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nbw9597 writes:
I think that every community has an extensive list of Pros and Cons for why a person or family might consider living there.
I live in HR and can tell you there are many things about the area that I don't like. There are also two to three times as many things about the area that I do like which is why I live there.
It is very interesting that all of the people bashing HR in this blog have failed to mention which community they currently live in. Why is that?
Might I suggest that you include that when you post? I am sure that everyone posting after you would love to add their 2-cents about why your community is not the best place to live.
September 23, 2008
9:09 a.m.
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musicman80 writes:
I agree w/ nbw9597.
September 23, 2008
9:13 a.m.
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SlouchingTowardBoulder writes:
I've lived in the following Denver neighborhoods: Park Hill, Indian Creek and West Highlands. None of those places can hold a candle to Highlands Ranch. The "ranch" is far superior as far as the schools, children's athletic leagues, incidents of crime, vandalism, graffiti, gangs, traffic, recreation centers, swimming pools, libraries and on and on and on. Plus, we are unincorporated Douglas County and don't have to deal with the bureaucratic layer and expense of city government.
Highlands Ranch is an absolutely terrific place for families!
September 23, 2008
9:16 a.m.
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Macita183 writes:
My old boss lived in the Ranch and he always got in trouble for trying to plant trees/build a fence, etc. I rent a house in a cookie-cutter neighborhood now and it is not a place for me. Kudos to people that like it but when I own my own home I want to do what I want to it when I want and not have to answer to an HOA.
September 23, 2008
9:18 a.m.
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Grim_Reefer writes:
HR ain't got nothin' on Leyden!! Let's hear it for HR's sameness...same...same...same....
September 23, 2008
9:19 a.m.
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SlouchingTowardBoulder writes:
Oh, and one more thing about "the ranch". This community has very strong and vibrant churches. My anecdotal observation (not based on any empirical study) is that church attendance here is far above the statewide average of 35% (see this poll where Colorado ranks -
http://www.gallup.com/poll/22579/Chur...).
Having lived in 3 Denver neighborhoods with sparsley attended churches I believe a vibrant church community with high attendance is a wonderful social cohesive factor and an asset to our community.
September 23, 2008
9:21 a.m.
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LadyBird112 writes:
Oh no, did I offend someone?
September 23, 2008
9:23 a.m.
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musicman80 writes:
I have to agree that there are cookie cutter homes all over HR, but there are many custom built homes as well. So if that's a problem for you then there are options assuming you can afford it.
Either way, most newer communities are COOKIE CUTTER HOMES. Look at the newer parts of Stapleton, Thorton, and Aurora? Moving on guys. Life gets much better when we focus on what we have been blessed with!:)
September 23, 2008
9:24 a.m.
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Tizzy writes:
What community do we "bashers" live in? Don't consider myself a basher, just think the columnists do these Types of articles every other month, and are failing to tell the story of the metro area in terms of the best schools, the highest home values, the most affluent, the best trails, the best place to raise a family, and so on. It's not just the RMN either. Has anyone picked up the magazine 5280 this month? Best school addition, and who determines what is the best school? You got it, the editor. It was pretty much all opinion on what are the best schools in Colorado.
Anyway, I'm proud to say I live in the Village (Belleview/Univ). We have our problems too, traffic for one thing, (nothing is perfect), but it just puzzles me consistently how my area is always talked about on the national level as being one of the most affluent, most this, most that, and on the LOCAL level, one never hears anything. The newspapers cater to their audience, and of course there are many hundreds of thousands of people living in communities like HR, Parker vs. a measily twenty thousand or so in Greenwood Village, Cherry Hills Village, so that's what they write about.
When a President comes to town, where is his fundraiser usually held? Where do a lot of the professional athletes live? Where do all the CEO's of major Colorado companies live? Where do homes valued at over $4Million dollars exist? You can answer with a few names: Vail, Aspen, CHV, GV, Telluride. All these places maybe have 20,000 households combined, so nothing is ever talked about with these "census" type articles.
September 23, 2008
9:27 a.m.
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Cowboy63 writes:
rj1967 writes: "HR = Cookie cutter houses, cookie cutter kids, cookie cutter soccer moms. They all make me wanna throw up."
Hey, rj1967. Easy fix. Don't live there or be a "soccer mom"!
This is America. You're free to live where you want take drugs take welfare and have abortions at will, but keep your jealous sarcasm to yourself.
People are trying to work hard, pay their bills, stay out of trouble and put their kids through school without you needing to throw up.
September 23, 2008
9:30 a.m.
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Buckwheat writes:
Thanks RMN for trying to point out that the rest of the state is nothing but a slum area, full of Hillbillies. Gee, maybe I should buy a Lexus and hang out at Starbucks instead of hanging with the worker bees..
September 23, 2008
9:38 a.m.
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datbinnurick writes:
First off - if you have lived in HR for 10 yrs - I'm sorry you haven't noticed it is not a city!!! And there we start - most educated - but yet have no clue where they even live.
Second- most people in HR are up to their neck in debt - can't afford anything, because their focus is on how to make themselves look rich! BTW have lived in multiple areas of HR and they are all the same!
September 23, 2008
9:42 a.m.
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rockythunder writes:
I always have to laugh at comments by people like Easy Bake. They like to make assumptions about the homeowners association and the all the problems that come with that. Having lived in the ranch for 5 years there are many different color combinations, including yellow that are painted on our houses. Are there issues with the homeowners assocations? Yes, at times but that is the reason that the resale value is high and it is a COMMUNITY that people want to live in. As for cookie cutter houses, it is obvious that you haven't frequented this area in some time. There are many different house sizes and architectural styles that dot our landscapes. We may not have the history of houses that were built downtown, but in time that too will change. Those of us who live here really don't care what the outsiders, especially those from other states think about our town. It really is a warm, inviting family friendly atmosphere. We have great schools and teachers, wonderful open-space areas and parks, great recreation centers, and fun family events that the town puts on for its citizens. We are proud of our town that is why we live here and call Highlands Ranch home.
September 23, 2008
9:43 a.m.
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Cowboy63 writes:
EastVail writes: "Funny. I like the "populations over 65,000" caveat."
I hear you! Take a drive down University Blvd through Cherry Hills Village, Greenwood Village and Centennial sometime.
This is just some left hand attempt to ridicule the suburbs. Highlands Ranch is hardly where the wealthy live in Colorado.
September 23, 2008
9:43 a.m.
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JustSayin writes:
"Hey, rj1967. Easy fix. Don't live there or be a "soccer mom"!
This is America. You're free to live where you want take drugs take welfare and have abortions at will, but keep your jealous sarcasm to yourself."
??!!?? So, if you don't appreciate white bread homogeneity, or consider that perhaps you were born okay the first time, then that means you're a drug taking abortionist on welfare?
Cowboy63 - you have some issues and need to get out more. You'll find all kinds of decent and honest and hard-working people outside of HR - some of them even go to <gasp> established churches!
September 23, 2008
9:45 a.m.
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musicman80 writes:
dabinnurick, shutdahellup!
September 23, 2008
9:52 a.m.
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GeneseeBoy writes:
The Ranch is a joke. Soccer mom please don't move to Genesee.
September 23, 2008
10:29 a.m.
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ifyem writes:
Highlands Ranch is a town????? I just thought it was the epidemy of suburban sprawl!! You'll never find me there, however the MILFs are probably nice!!!!!!
September 23, 2008
10:46 a.m.
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sheepherder writes:
My hood is better than your hood! Sound like a bunch of gang bangers on here!
September 23, 2008
10:48 a.m.
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jamesdenver writes:
Yup I too find HR to be the most boring place in Colorado. I live downtown, own a townhome, and can walk and bike everywhere - and my friends can actually find my house without calling me six times from similar named streets.
If I moved I'd rather have a farm out on the eastern plains with plenty of open space than that "rat maze" as noted above.
September 23, 2008
11:13 a.m.
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GladysKravitz writes:
Is the RMN sure this about Highlands Ranch or Stepford Ranch?
September 23, 2008
11:15 a.m.
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FU writes:
Highlands Ranch = Sprawl of Shame
September 23, 2008
11:19 a.m.
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fmikey writes:
ifyem: The word is "epitome", not "epidemy". Clearly you wouldn't fit in in highly educated Highlands Ranch.
Also agree with some of the posts....lot of hatred here, and probably some jealousy and envy.....isn't it interesting how we humans can always find something to criticize other people about? What a character trait of our species!!
If you don't like HR, don't live there...if you do, then live there. Its that simple! There is no value in trying to elevate yourself over others based on something as meaningless as where you all live....just showcases your own self-confidence problem...
September 23, 2008
11:28 a.m.
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ifyem writes:
fmikey,
Your a fricken joke bro...Don't read the postings if you don't like what they say...Thanks for being my personal spellchecker buddy...You must be really, really bored!!!!
September 23, 2008
11:32 a.m.
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ifyem writes:
Milehighguy writes:
It is clear that some people are very jealous of those living in Highland Ranch, their vehicles, beige home, and their trophy wife. Most of the critics probably live in North Aurora and Commerce City. Highlands Ranch is a wonderful city with more intelligence, money, and class than other metro areas. That's not to say that HR quality people don't live in other areas too, but they seem to be highly concentrated in HR. Your probability of a positive lifestyle is more likely in Highlands Ranch.
Signed,
A future HR resident
You are seriously kidding me...I feel sorry for anyone who thinks Highlands Ranch is "classy."
September 23, 2008
11:34 a.m.
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leatherneck writes:
"Highlands Ranch leads in household income"
NOWAY.......... I would have never guessed......Are you kidding me........Please........this is not news
September 23, 2008
11:49 a.m.
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leatherneck writes:
"According to our research of the Colorado and other state lists there were 20 registered sex offenders living in Highlands Ranch"
I bet the Rich and Classy don't like this stat
September 23, 2008
12:01 p.m.
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Francesca writes:
I am a rural resident, definitely not a lifestyle for those that dislike hard, physical, outdoor work. I cannot understand why everyone thinks it's okay to bash those that have different ideas of how they want to live. Who cares if someone lives in an unincorporated area, or a subdivision/PD or the big city? Are you happy where YOU are? Good! So is the person you are dissing about living where they do. Nobody is better than anyone else for living where they choose. Good gawd people. Get a grip.
September 23, 2008
12:02 p.m.
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timothyc writes:
A few years ago, National Geographic had a great article on Highlands Ranch. I believe it held the title of worse case of urban sprawl in America? No, thank you. I will stick with Capitol Hill. No cookie cutter houses, diversity, I can walk everywhere, great neighborhood, where people actually know one another, beautiful old homes. I remember highlands Ranch when it actually WAS a ranch. It was way more attractive then, then it is now.
September 23, 2008
12:16 p.m.
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fmikey writes:
ifyem: Clearly you have hatred and jealousy issues, and just confirm the second part of my post. Have you considered professional help?
I read the posts to see what people think....and will continue to do so....bro.....enjoy your day.....
(yeah, go ahead and respond....I'll enjoy the humor...).
September 23, 2008
12:41 p.m.
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ifyem writes:
fmikey,
Clearly you get your self-esteem from acting like a big shot online!! Jealous of who?? You?? Highlands Ranch?? I only wish we could compare our lives!!! Annoyed by knuckleheads like you...You bet buddy!!! You must really enjoy making yourself look like an idiot..I think you should be the one seeking the professional help, who knows, you are probably writing your posts from an institution right now!! Get back to your group session fmikey!!!
September 23, 2008
1:29 p.m.
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FU writes:
USANumber1 - I reside in Highland (no Ranch), just West of Downtown. Rapidly appreciating home values, great central location, can walk/ride about anywhere, easy commute, great restaurants...I could go on and on.
Of course, if you like having to drive everywhere because your neighborhood was poorly designed, busy streets, long commutes, chain restaurants and shops, and only seeing white people, then I'm sure you'd enjoy the Ranch.
I agree, it was better when it was actually a ranch, not a poorly planned case study in urban sprawl... By the way, if it's a city, where is the downtown or city center?
September 23, 2008
1:37 p.m.
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Cowboy63 writes:
JustSayin writes: "So, if you don't appreciate white bread homogeneity, or consider that perhaps you were born okay the first time, then that means you're a drug taking abortionist on welfare?"
No. (I was just tryin' to get a rise out of ya) and No, I don't live in HR, but I have a few friends there.
What it means is: Stop belly-aching about where people freely and legally choose to live. The Left is all about freedom of choice, but only when those choices fall within their approved spectrum.
All of the "whitebread" derogatory comments.. would you be just as quick with the racial remarks if there was a sister story on "Five Points Last in Household Income"?
September 23, 2008
2:31 p.m.
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horsinaround writes:
I live in northwest Elbert County, middle of nowhere basically, but we used to live in Highlands Ranch and I think HR a wonderful place to raise kids. We love our place now, 35 acres with horses, dogs, cats, etc., but I will say I miss the rec. centers that Highlands Ranch has to offer. My kids love it here, but I don't think they'd argue too hard if we ever decided to move back to Highlands Ranch. The schools in Highlands Ranch are also excellent. While the Community Association can be a pain, it has its good points. You don't have to live next to a house with a mobile home, super high weeds, or a neighbor who leaves dead cows and piles of manure out in his pasture to rot. I don't miss the houses being on top of each other in Highlands Ranch or the traffic, but there are a lot of things I do miss. I love the fact that now we have about 500+ yards separating us from our neighbors. There's good and bad in all communities. I don't see how those who are bashing HR think they know anything about life there or the people who choose to live there unless they have actually lived there themselves.
September 23, 2008
3:09 p.m.
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HighIQProgressive writes:
I prefer Boulder. People don't make fun of me for my progressive inconsistencies and fruity bike spandex in the Republic.
September 23, 2008
4:14 p.m.
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fu2 writes:
For starters I'm sure your lil yellow house is"ah, nice", it's nice to know that some people would'nt live here even if you bought the house for them, translation: I can't afford to live in a nice area like H.R. so i'll pretend to be happy. Only 20 sex offenders,not bad. The thing about H.R. ( that stands for HighlandsRanch for those who do not catch on as quickly ) is that we do have cookie cutter houses but NICE BIG ones, our wifes are HOT,our lawns are groomed, are cars in the fron of the house run and our kids know how to dress for school. I guess if that did'nt get attention theres always Jerry Springer. Next time you interview for a job, your boss probly lives in H.R..
September 23, 2008
4:15 p.m.
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timothyc writes:
I was just speaking to a neighbor. She and her family moved here from Boston when her husband was offered a transfer to Denver, 10 years ago. Guess where they lived? Highlands Ranch. She described how she thought they loved the town. Then, five years ago, they had a revelation. They visited friends who bought a beautiful house in Cheesman Park, and discovered the beauty of the city. They couldn't sell their house fast enough and move into the city. She now has a five minute commute, and spends more time with her husband and kids, walks to Cheesman Park, Botanical Gardens, Licks Ice Cream, etc. Yes, the city has more to offer then Highlands Ranch.
If I didn't live in Denver I'd live in Boulder.
September 23, 2008
4:33 p.m.
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fu2 writes:
CITY OF: Thorton, Lone tree, Longmont, HighlandsRanch. None of us has a Downtown or city center. Its not a very big word but Perhaps you should understand its meaning before using it. Prime example why you should stay in school kids.
September 24, 2008
1:34 p.m.
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datbinnurick writes:
musicman80 - did I strike a nerve, dear? The truth is not easy to handle, is it?
September 24, 2008
2:16 p.m.
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datbinnurick writes:
fu2 - only 20 sex offenders - hmm - it is more than double that... you should really verify info before posting it - take a look at the sherrifs office. They are in HR just like anywhere else...
September 26, 2008
2:08 p.m.
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4gColoNative writes:
Had a boss that lived in Highlands Ranch. This "nice, normal, church-going" guy went home one weekend and killed his wife, kids and then himself.
Where Harris and Klebold lived isn't that far from Highlands Ranch.
Various other weird fatal incidents in the news in the last six months have transpired out that way, or have involved people from there.
Places like these worry me more than Denver proper. They seem to have many people who are quietly dysfunctional ... and then we see them snap!