Palin power to energize Colorado Springs event
By David Montero, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)
Published September 5, 2008 at 8:27 p.m.
Barry Gutierrez / The Rocky
Jane Hyde works on campaign signs at the Victory Office in Colorado Springs for the McCain-Palin rally.
Photo by Associated Press
Sen. John McCain and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin attend a rally Friday in in Cedarburg, Wis.
COLORADO SPRINGS — Anna Litchenberg was on her knees in the campaign office parking lot, the sun dipping behind an old two-story building as a chill gripped the air.
With a brush soaked in dark blue paint, she traced carefully over the stenciled words in pencil onto the white poster. Around her, others with green and red paint wrote out their messages, too.
At a nearby table, Walt Peacock decided he couldn't suppress his enthusiasm anymore.
"Let's hear it for Sarah Palin," he yelled while raising his arms to form a V.
About 30 people cheered. Litchenberg smiled, put her head down and went back to painting the words "Coloradans for Mac and Sarah."
Before John McCain's announcement that Palin was going to be his running mate, Litchenberg had little motivation to be making signs for today's rally when the GOP's standard bearers come to town.
She voted for Mitt Romney in the February Republican caucus and was never quite sure McCain could be trusted as a true conservative.
But then Palin happened.
The first-term governor of Alaska is an evangelical Christian who has been called a heroine of the pro-life movement.
James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, reversed his vow to not vote for McCain and got on board with vigor. So did radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh — a frequent critic of the Arizona senator.
Litchenberg was sold on the ticket and, for the first time this election season, decided to not only vote for McCain, but to also volunteer.
"By McCain choosing Sarah Palin, he showed he could be trusted," Litchenberg said. "The pick really nailed it for me."
And, it may just put a crimp in the talk of Democrats, including Barack Obama, about getting at least 40 percent of the votes in this reddest of red counties.
Dems in GOP country
Back in June when Obama came to Colorado Springs to deliver his "call to service" speech, his campaign decided to take its message into the heart of a Republican stronghold.
As campaign spokesman Matt Chandler said then: "We will not cede any county."
But Colorado Democratic Party Chairwoman Pat Waak set a more specific goal — putting 40 percent of the El Paso County vote in the Democratic column.
Gov. Bill Ritter achieved 39.73 percent in El Paso County when he defeated Republican Bob Beauprez in 2006. That was light years better than 2004 when President Bush trounced Sen. John Kerry by a 2-to-1 ratio.
The Palin pick might complicate things in El Paso County.
"As far as the targeted number, I would say we want 40 percent and we will look at the number," Waak said.
"We launched the 64 county strategy and we're keeping to it. Obviously there are more resources going into some counties than others, but we're not giving up on any votes," she said.
Tom Kise, regional spokesman for the McCain campaign, said Palin has brought so much energy to the conservative base in El Paso County that "a wide margin" of victory is possible again.
Kise said the appearance of McCain with Palin here today in front of an expected crowd of about 10,000 could make the statement that the county is still firmly Republican.
"I think a lot of people in El Paso County — and around the country — were waiting for that very big pick of the VP," Kise said.
"It's a sign of judgment and experience by the presidential candidate and when you put the two candidates next to each other, she's a solid pick with good conservative credentials that will appeal to a lot of people in El Paso County," Kise said.
Jason Allen bounced up and down on the balls of his feet, hands thrust in his pocket outside the McCain office in Colorado Springs shortly before Palin was to address the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minn., this week. The 31-year-old expressed excitement about Palin and smiled a lot when her name was mentioned.
Allen, a Mike Huckabee supporter during the Colorado caucus, said McCain failed to energize him. Before Palin was picked, Allen hadn't even visited McCain's Web site.
The life-long Republican was even a little dispirited by President Bush and was highly critical of the administration's lack of fiscal discipline.
Almost immediately after the Palin pick and a quick bit of research on her, Allen not only logged onto the McCain site, he signed up for e-mail alerts and sought to volunteer for the campaign.
"I sent out e-mails and personal messages to people urging them to support the ticket," Allen said. "This is a game-changer."
Averting a blowout
All week, the Obama campaign has been tilling the Republican soil — not just in El Paso County, but around Colorado. On Wednesday, they established the Colorado Republicans for Obama, including counting Colorado Springs City Councilwoman Jan Martin as a key member.
Martin acknowledged the support for Obama could cost her, but said she knew several Republicans who were ready to vote for the Democrat in November. Martin invoked the word "change" several times.
While swing areas such as Jefferson, Arapahoe and Larimer counties remain key targets, University of Colorado political science chairman Ken Bickers said averting a blowout in El Paso County would be helpful to the Obama campaign.
"It sounds like she's really quite appealing to that group of women — the ones being called hockey moms now," Bickers said of Palin. "It might cause them to give another look to McCain and even if it moves a point or two, that's a big deal here."
And, in turn, a big deal for the nation.
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September 5, 2008
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gr8fun4me writes:
Too old and little experience. Sorry but true. Now I see that the government is going to bail out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to the tune of $25 billion dollars. Why is it that the Republicans always talk a good campaign but do poorly in running the country. They keep on having these huge financial scandals that have cost taxpayers billions. The Savings and Loan scandal during the 1980's in which John McCain was trying to bail out his homeboy Keating and now we've had two huge financial scandals under Bush(Enron and now the mortgage mess). All these were caused by the loosening of regulations.
September 5, 2008
9:40 p.m.
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PonchoVia writes:
Here's an email from a resident of Wasilla regarding Palin:
http://www.thepresidentialcandidates....
September 5, 2008
9:57 p.m.
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truthaboutdems writes:
Why are liberals so full of fear? If Palin is so bad, why do you have anything to worry about? Hmmm....
The Democrats have been in charge of congress for two years and have done nothing. The fact is politics in general are broken.
The last thing we need is more regulations. Democrats = Higher taxes and more regulation. The end product is a dead economy and destroyed lives. You liberals can spew all the hatred and lies you want, but your policies have been proven wrong throughout history.
Please proceed to tell me how bad Bush is, how Republicans are evil, and Obama is your savior.
September 5, 2008
10:01 p.m.
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anya writes:
Odd that they would waste their time in Colorado Springs. Pretty much preaching to the choir, isn't it? They won't win many new votes there; they already pretty much own El Paso county.
Of course, at the same time, they made Dobson break a solemn vow to god, so perhaps they have to stop by and say thanks.
After Cheney, we really need a pit bull with lipstick in office here in what's left of the United States.
September 5, 2008
10:38 p.m.
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mcmakev writes:
There are poor kids in jail across the county for consensual statutory rape. Why is Sarah Palin's son-in-law-to-be walking free? Why is this situation an example of family values, but when a kid in the hood does it, it's reprehensible.
Christian conservatives are necessarily hypocrites. Necessarily, because even they are human and make mistakes. However, they appear to not hold themselves to the same standards by which they judge the rest of us.
The idea of a president who advocates the teaching of creationism and abstinence-only ed, someone who says that Iraq is "God's task" and it's God's will to complete a pipeline in Alaska is terrifying. Please do not put Sarah Palin within one beat of a McCain's heart to the presidency.
I hear a lot of snide talk about how "liberals" are scared of Palin. You're right, but for the wrong reason (incidentally, I'm a fiscal conservative, tolerant voter who believes in alliance-based foreign policy). I'm scared that the country will buy the "maverick" and, after his heart gives out, get the reactionary, bigoted right winger. That may sound morbid, but it's a valid concern.
September 5, 2008
10:44 p.m.
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hikingartist writes:
Palin has not offered up anything of value on the economy, education, the war, etc. Her whole schtick is about making the other candidate look bad...more or less Palin is the mainstreaming of Ann Coulter.
September 5, 2008
11:05 p.m.
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EZBakeOven writes:
When is Palin going to Meet The Press? The McCain team seems to be hiding her from interviews.
September 5, 2008
11:51 p.m.
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djrom66 writes:
Hey McMakev:
You seem to think that Bristol Palin and her boyfriend Levi Johnston (Sarah Palin's son-in-law-to-be) have committed a crime. You clearly know nothing about statutory rape laws. In Alaska, like many other states, the age of consent is 16....for it to be a crime, the "minor" has to be under 16, and the other partner has to be over 18. These were both consenting teens over 16 and under 18, so no law was broken. Like Obama himself said, "The children of the candidates are off limits." Go take your hate and fear mongering elsewhere.
September 6, 2008
12:06 a.m.
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mcmakev writes:
djrom66,
That's nice. You need to finesse the laws of statutory rape to defend the double standard.
I have no hate, nor fear-mongering - I leave that to the RNC. I have a strong, well-researched aversion to the integration of church and state.
Sarah Palin has:
--threatened to fire librarian for not removing books she wanted banned.
--referred to the invasion of Iraq as "God's task"
--implored people to pray to God that a pipeline in Alaska is built
--advocated abstinence-only education, which anyone with a rudimentary grasp of statistics will tell you results in increased teen pregnancy and std's.
My beliefs tend to be split between the 2 parties, but the most important issue for me is the separation of church and state. To see God used for political gain offends both my civic and spiritual sensibilities. I believe it to be the biggest threat (bar none) to our democracy.
September 6, 2008
4:51 a.m.
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FrictionSoul writes:
Libtards_R_Idiots:
That link didn't even work. How careless can you be? Plenty.
Dems=tax hikes? That's an old one designed to scare voters away from the fact that the GOP borrows, spends and sticks tax payers with the bill. But since you're a Republican you've never let facts get in the way of whatever your goal is.
Palin raised taxes, raised spending. That's just a fact and it doesn't bother anybody because when one does it right one can produce good.
But there are many corporations, capitalists, and free marketers who have fed off the Republican war machine who no longer know how to make money. The world's economy depends on cheap oil and has for years. So when Republicans poo-bah renewable energy in favor of oil they are merely promising more of the same old same old, yet promising better results and then turn right around and say government doesn't work but elect us anyways so we can prove it.
Dems aren't afraid. Never have been. The media isn't liberal and never has been. It's just another exploit from Republicans who learned a secret right in Genesis 3: "everybody has a slippery mind, so let's bamboozle them with fear. Fear is good."
God is not mocked: you reap what you sow; and in the Republican's case, they want to blame the Dems for what the Repubs have sown. We're not buying it.
September 6, 2008
5:03 a.m.
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FrictionSoul writes:
PonchoVia:
Your screen name reminds me about Pancho Villa, a few facts that most people aren't aware of.
Osama bin Laden is not the first. He's the second foreign terrorist to come onto our soil, murder people and then escape. Gen. Pershing lead an army of 10,000 into Mexico for 11 months of fruitless searching. He was never captured.
Therefore I've always felt that at some point in time there would be a state park in New York called Osama bin Laden State Park. They could put right at ground zero, no?
They never found Pancho Villa, but they did create a State Park:
http://www.emnrd.state.nm.us/PRD/Panc...
September 6, 2008
5:45 a.m.
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windbourne writes:
America does not need an unethical, unable to balance a budget without loads of debt, lack of idea type politician. McCain is regarded as more of reagan/W politics and Palin has shown that she has the ethics/budget ability of regan admin and W himself.
She all but guarantees a win for Obama. Just watch real clear politics.
September 6, 2008
6:24 a.m.
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dragonfly writes:
Ponchovia,
Interesting letter. Sounds like a lefty, Palin hater wrote it. They'll say anything to stop her. I expect to hear more. She'll survive.
September 6, 2008
6:33 a.m.
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Hambone writes:
The Maverick and the Milf.
sounds like a tv show.
September 6, 2008
7:04 a.m.
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windbourne writes:
>>The Maverick and the Milf.
>>sounds like a tv show.
Yes; it is called America's most wanted criminals.
September 6, 2008
7:12 a.m.
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September 6, 2008
7:52 a.m.
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Vector049 writes:
Wingnuts.
September 6, 2008
8:06 a.m.
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gratefulweb writes:
Just Say NO to freak religious zealots. this chick does not want to teach evolution in schools, does not believe in Global Warming, is against sex-ed, but of course is teenage daughter is pregnant. can you say hypocrisy? but i guess that's no surprise coming from the sexually repressed GOP.
September 6, 2008
8:08 a.m.
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MrCrush writes:
The same thing that happened to the Germans in the early 30's is happening to the brainwashed democrats in this country. If you know your history, the similarities are uncanny. My god be careful. Electing Obama will be the beginning of the demise of this democracy. This is not the time in our history to elect a president based on touchy, feely speeches and false promises by someone with no experience. Don't you see this for what it is?
September 6, 2008
8:17 a.m.
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COLibertarian writes:
mcmakev writes:
"djrom66,
That's nice. You need to finesse the laws of statutory rape to defend the double standard."
mcmakev take it from a fiscal conservative and a social free-for-all kinda guy when I ask...... How the hell was that finessing? It is the law in Alaska, and therefore explained to you and everyone who read your post claiming rape! For some people will read your post and say "yea" without hearing what is true, posted after your post.
I too, do not trust or like the religious right in any way form or fashion. BUT I will not lie, nor distort the truth to make a point to discredit them. Is that not sinking to thier level????
I am not voting for either candidate because I can not supporting the worse of 2 evils. Vote Ron Paul
September 6, 2008
9:19 a.m.
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dilligaf writes:
COLibertarian
Good morning. This statutory rape talk is BS. Boy that means when I was 17 myself and thousands of others would still locked up. What is the issue is you can't go around preaching to the whole country about God and family values and can't keep her own house in order. Now I know you can't always depend on your children to do the right things all the time. But where this went south is making a quick fix by saying how proud she is of her daughter for deciding to keep the baby (And I truly don't believe it was her daughters choice because according to her believes women don't have a choice). Then she says they are doing the right thing and getting married. You know and I know that marriage is two people joining in marriage because of love and wanting to be together. Not because they have to. But what this couple has going for them they have Mommy & Daddy to take care of them. Most of the peasants out here don't have that. This has hypocrisy written all over it.
September 6, 2008
9:35 a.m.
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COLibertarian writes:
Dilligaf, Good morning yourself.
Then he should have said that the first time! He did not and then defended his statement with the excuse of Finesse... WTF?
One of the many reasons I am not part of the Rep party is exactly the family values crap that is put out there by the religious right.
I am not defending Palin or any of her actions. I am looking and fighting for true change in our political policies and environment. I do so from more of a conservative slant. Rick_E_Bear does so from more of a liberal slant. I believe in true conservatism of our past. True Freedoms. Not those freedoms that only benefit me or only benefit you, but True Freedoms. This BS talk of Stat. Rape was a slap in the face of Freedoms and I called him on it, not because he said it, but because of the way he tried to defend it.
September 6, 2008
9:43 a.m.
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Acemon writes:
McCrush wrote:
"This is not the time in our history to elect a president based on touchy, feely speeches and false promises by someone with no experience."
That's correct. Ronald Reagan's only experience was governor of California, where his reckless behavior caused harm to the local economy and left it with a (then) record deficeit. He won his election for President using touchy-feely speeches and promises that went unfulfilled. Let's not forget his illegal, secret sale of weapons to Iran in order to fund the failed Contra revolution in Nicaragua. Other examples of his "upstanding" career can be found at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_a...
Those who fail to study history are bound to repeat those mistakes.
September 6, 2008
9:52 a.m.
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dilligaf writes:
COLibertarian
You know I have been labeled many times as being a liberal. And there is times this is true. Now this may be straying off the subject but the other day a co-worker ask me if I was for universal health care. I said no. BUT capitalism as we know it today is forcing us to it. The higher the cost becomes the more people can't afford it. Our uninsured is growing like a wildfire. So if someone can find a better answer (as Ross Perot said) I'm all ears. This is a problem that can't be left alone. Now Obama said he wants to go to universal health care. What is McCains plan to fix this serious problem? Many economist has said this and social security will be the end to this country as we know it.
September 6, 2008
10:07 a.m.
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COLibertarian writes:
Dilligaf
Universal HC. I have not seen a plan that includes total implementation costs nor addresses the many businesses that are secondary to HC that will go under and also the HC professionals now and in the near future that will leave the industry. Huge problems. I was asked if I could accept Universal HC. I said show me the numbers and how it will work and we can talk.
Dilligaf we must look at why HC is such a huge problem for americans today and then start analyzing on how to fix. My suggestion is to follow a dollar through the entire process of getting HC as it is set up today and define % as costs su ck up that dollar and address the wastes.
For example, why do we get our HC through the employer? What piece made this the model for doing so? How do we fix that? By fixing that 1 piece (not as easy as stated) what other areas of concern can be fixed. Low hanging fruit business theory.
September 6, 2008
10:26 a.m.
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COLibertarian writes:
Dilligaf,
I will try and put something up that better explains my positon, but I have guests coming over in a bit and will not be at pc much. Besides this may be one of those coffee or adult beverage discussions that I have talked to Rick_e_bear and Cwilly about. Enjoy your day if we dont get a chance to discuss later on.
September 6, 2008
10:30 a.m.
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dilligaf writes:
We have been led to believe that the high cost of malpractice insurance for doctors and law suits. I know this is a strong contributor but HC is no different then anything else in this country. And that is plain and simple GREED. I have a hard time with CEO's and Doctors being paid millions in bonuses by insurance companies for the number of claims they deny. My daughter is a nurse in a doctors office. The stories she tells of these big pharmaceutical companies that come in and drop payed vacations all over the world for pushing their drugs. And this is just a drop in the bucket what is going on in the HC world. This country spends 10-20 times more for these drugs then other countries for the exact same drugs.
September 6, 2008
10:41 a.m.
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mcsame_failin writes:
Putting all arguments of religion, or liberals vs. conservatives aside. Take a hard look at the record. McCain and Palin are a risk that will fail for America.
McCain did not thoroughly vet Palin. His campaign team did not talk to anyone in state or local government about her (read about it here http://tinyurl.com/66x3uh). They keep saying that they had her complete 'a personal data questionnaire with 70 "very intrusive" questions', as if this is a more than sufficient application for the Vice President of the United States. Why would someone gamble their election to the highest office on a decision that was not given due diligence? Because McCain is desperate to be President? This is not the type of person to put in charge of our nation's military and made executive of our government.
Palin has piles of dirt that will be slung as mudd. She will reap what she sows. What she says now does not match her past statements on public record. She did not say no to the bridge to nowhere until is was politically beneficial to her. She told CNBC that before she could seriously consider this VP position "We want to make sure that that VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans and for the things that we're trying to accomplish up here". Like building a $30 billion pipeline to nowhere? This is NOT a person who will fight against earmarks and pork, or will serve the people of this country, UNLESS it will be fruitful for her and her interests. Palin is a SPECIAL INTEREST party.
It is a great thing for conservative christians that now there is a candidate on the Republican ticket that seems to be a strong voice for their ideals. But they are being deceived by one of the basic, core tactics of the modern Rovian-Republican playbook. McCain and Palin are not right for America. They are right for themselves and their ambitions, only.
McCain and Palin are more of the McSame Failin' politics that are tearing the people of this nation apart. Maybe Obama is not the right vote for everyone, but McCain is the wrong vote for anyone.
September 6, 2008
10:43 a.m.
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H20 writes:
My MrCrush:
I can't believe you throw in the brainwash card when that is what the Republican party is know for, " Gods task" that we go into Iraq and all the right winged radio talk shows. Religious beliefs and Right-winged talk shows, Isn't this some form of brainwashing on the American people?
September 6, 2008
10:48 a.m.
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H20 writes:
Misleading the American Youth:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jN...
September 6, 2008
10:50 a.m.
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dakar writes:
Palin challenged the establishment and reformed politics in Alaska. Obama went with the politics in Illinois, his friends are the criminal likes of Ayers, Rezko and Kwame. Obama became senator and then started running for president about a year or so later. These are facts, not opinions. The Republicans have it right, the experienced maverick as #1 and the younger reform gov. as #2.
September 6, 2008
10:55 a.m.
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H20 writes:
I'm not so sure you can call McCain a Maverick anymore! Look up the definition of a Maverick dakar!
September 6, 2008
10:58 a.m.
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LuvAmerica writes:
truthaboutdems writes:
"The Democrats have been in charge of congress for two years and have done nothing."
The Republicans have filibustered all their efforts.
September 6, 2008
11:02 a.m.
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LuvAmerica writes:
MrCrush writes:
"The same thing that happened to the Germans in the early 30's is happening to the brainwashed democrats in this country. If you know your history, the similarities are uncanny. My god be careful."
I hear you! I toured the Holocaust Museum in D.C. recently and was amazed by the parallels between what happened in Germany and what has happened under the Bush administration.
September 6, 2008
11:10 a.m.
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BJG writes:
It's no surprise that Mac and Palin are going to Co Springs. What a great photo shoot, thousands of Dobson's cyborgs cheering for them. This whole circus is for the press who will eventually decide who is going to win. Obama was and is a good story, "First African American" yadda, yadda, yadda....Now we have "Hot chick running mate" yadda, yadda, yadda....We just soak this stuff in and the media knows it.... And in the end...we only know what we are told on the boob tube.
September 6, 2008
11:54 a.m.
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Jonjonmon writes:
gr8fun4me,
"too old and little experience" this sounds like another ticket doesn't it?The democrats parade Biden as a "master" in foreign policy. However, his record suggests otherwise.Joe Biden was wrong on many foreign policy issues. He voted against kicking Saddam out of Kuwait. He voted for the war but then flipped his stance. He voted against the surge that has worked. I could go on.
I agree with you that the Gov. shouldn't bail out fannie mae. The gov. is also bailing out GM and Chrysler motors from bankruptcy. Its a difficult issue. If it doesn't bail these companies out then millions of people loose their jobs and Obama blames it on the Gov. instead of poor planning of GM. If it does bail the companies out then the deficit goes higher and Obama blames the Pres.
Mr. McCain admitted the other night that the GOP has "lost the trust of people". He admitted this. As a matter of fact. It was one of his first lines. Obama is part of the same Senate. I didn't her him once saying "we've lost your trust". He always blames it on the "other side".
September 6, 2008
12:13 p.m.
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Campbell writes:
What I have noticed in the media and especially here in town with the Denver Post is the amount of hate being directed toward this woman. Its just amazing what they are saying. I don't think I have ever seen so much hated directed toward one human being by the Democrats and the liberals. Its really becoming bizarre.
September 6, 2008
12:15 p.m.
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rascalofearth writes:
Palin is what Senator McCain, before he sold his soul to become gop nominee McCain would have called an agent of intolerance.
She is also a sadly typically corrupt republican who faces serious legal issues back home. Of course she is forbidding her staff from testyfying before the legislature while she runs to the courts to argue the legislature can't investigate the gov. just like Bush/Cheney
as many of you have already seen the palin's staff is already caught in lies via tape and video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOBWZ7...
here's the local news report http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UojMn...
& a version with the longer tape of the phone call
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdQWQz...
in repsonse to pressure from the gop to delay the results of the troopergate investigation, due the end of october, until after the election, the investigator will deliver the report on 10/10.
btw - can someone explain, after local schools, community colleges and doc/patient relationships have all beeen federalized according to McCain's speech and the gop platform, how exactly the federal law enformencement folks would prosecute a woman for having an abortion v a miscarriage? what if she leaves the country pregnant and returns not pregnant? how far into people's private lives would you all like to see the federalgovt intrude?
September 6, 2008
12:23 p.m.
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rg writes:
Sara’ from Alaska raises money for her foe:
Barack Obama's presidential campaign said it raised $10 million Thursday following the Republican National Convention speech by rival John McCain's running mate, Sarah Palin.
Sara' from Alaska seeks to meddle in your belief by denying you "choice." It is my way or the highway, says Sara', a hard-core fundamentalist petitioning for greater government involvement in your rights such as "choice." I want your uterus, says Sara' from Alaska whose church hates America and seeks secession from the Union. Richard Grimes: Deicide and Independent.
Deicide Corner: “I am not going to question your opinions. I am not going to meddle with your belief. I am not going to dictate to you mine. All that I say is, examine, inquire. Look into the nature of things. Search out the grounds of your opinions, the for and the against. Know why you believe, understand what you believe, and possess a reason for the faith that is in you.”-- Frances Wright
September 6, 2008
12:30 p.m.
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Campbell writes:
rick_e_bear writes:
"Except for all the hate the republicans spewed towards Barack and Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton, and all other democrats.
Watch out, your hypocrisy is showing."
I don't think so. The only thing they are saying about Obama is that he is inexperienced and why. That is nothing compared to what they are throwing at Palin that is way beyond the norm for a political campaign. I have heard nothing toward Michelle Obama or Hillary Clinton at all so your running a line of bull on that comment. We are talking about smearing Palin because she's a woman and directing the same hate toward her newborn and her daughter. That's not politics, that pure hatred. Go check out the Denver Post.
September 6, 2008
12:52 p.m.
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mcsame_failin writes:
If Palin is against choice, why did she make such a big deal about her daughter making the right choice without being forced? Why is it that her daughter deserves to make her own choice, but legislation should be introduced to keep the rest of America from being able to make the right choice? Is it because only those that are faithful are allowed the right to choose? Doesn't this go against God's will that to believe in him shall be a personal choice of one's own free will? There is a serious conflict of ideals here!
Is it a sin to give birth to a baby only because it is the law, although the mother does not want to have the baby? The mother did not freely choose to do God's will in this case.
Taking away a woman's right to make the correct choice is in essence taking away her ability to faithfully abide by God's will. It is no longer a matter of faith, but a matter of law with no free will involved. But for Sarah and Tod Palin, and those that are speaking out in support for them, Bristol's choice is very important!
This issue is distracting voters from making the choice about who can lead this country out of the serious problems we face. Isn't it time to set this aside and instead work together; to trust that people should be able to choose right and wrong for themselves; to have the free will that God intends their faith to be based on?
September 6, 2008
1:11 p.m.
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truthaboutdems writes:
Here is more proof that you can't trust the left:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09052008/...
Let's see how you spin this one rick-e-bear... idiot.
There standard reply to everything is: "Hey it's not our fault, the republicans started it. It's Bush's fault, conseratives are evil, ... blah blah blah." My three year old has more composure and logic.
September 6, 2008
1:13 p.m.
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reshas1 writes:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblog...
Middle American is FINALLY standing up to the left wing biased media... I hope this happened in CS too.
Re: Rick e bear
You mean the lies that are perpetuated by the corrupt media???
The lies that DailyKossacks, Media Matters, MSNBC are putting out to smear hear. From what Michael Steele said earlier in the week, they Dim's are trying to make her quit. Me thinks you all just created a fire storm of support for her, so THANK YOU!
Go OPERATION CHAOS, GO McCain/Palin 08
September 6, 2008
1:15 p.m.
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sunshinestate writes:
Headline reads: "Palin Power"...but wait,what about....McCain??
She can tout 'small town living' to the crowds and then retreat to meetings with the "growth & development" interests and scheme on how to GROW GROW GROW all the little towns with unlimited 'energy' from her 'richest ' state.........if only they could get rid of the pesky 'enviro extremist'....which includes the conservative hunter/conservationist base that have placed the Republicans consistently since 1980. This time the issues will finally come to the fore front- the conflicts obvious-she can gut a moose and she can gut the effective conservation community.
September 6, 2008
1:18 p.m.
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H20 writes:
Truthaboutdems did someone ruffle your feathers? rick_e_bear has a great point on the the Republican party spin.... One smart 3 year old, I have to give credit for that, may be you should switch positions with your three year old and allow he/she to write the comments for you!
September 6, 2008
1:42 p.m.
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Hambone writes:
I just put in my order for the '09 Sarah Palin bikini calendar!!!!!!!
September 6, 2008
2:20 p.m.
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mcsame_failin writes:
LOOK AT THE CANDIDATE CLOSELY BEFORE DECIDING YOUR VOTE! and I don't mean her figure or pretty face (if that's your taste).
From http://tinyurl.com/5kw8ch:
and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhgUvX...
"The McCain campaign has admitted to a ban on most press interviews for its largely unknown but popular running mate. McCain's aides are selling this highly unusual approach with rank contempt for the public. "Who cares?" laughed Nicolle Wallace, when pressed on why Palin won't take questions by Time's Jay Carney, on MSNBC. "But I mean, like, from who, from you?" she added, incredulous at the very idea of Palin taking questions from Time's Washington bureau chief. "Who cares? No offense," she added, "who cares if she can talk to Time magazine?""
This sounds like a quote from Zoolander, "Lucky for me no one I know reads your little TIME magazine or whatever its called", hahahaha, boy does Nicolle Wallace sound stupid. And she is a press aide to McCain. Proof of another unwise choice by McCain.
"Ultimately, with proper coverage and pressure, voters can make a judgment about what Palin's actions as a candidate tell us about her character. She talks tough about reporters, but can't face them; she talks up government ethics, but won't answer an investigation under oath; she raves about her own pit-bull image on stage, but betrays a cowardice under actual pressure. In some ways, she is living out the very caricature that she drew of Obama last week -- all talk, no action -- coupled with the smug attitude of her predecessor, the sarcastic swagger and faux-populism of George W. Bush."
Come on people, don't let the Rovian spin doctors deceive you. Read the news paper, and maybe even "TIME magazine or whatever it is called". Your vote is a constitutional right and responsibility to do the due diligence and make an INFORMED decision, not base your vote on a cute joke about hockey moms and pit-bulls!
September 6, 2008
3:25 p.m.
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mcsame_failin writes:
rick_e_bear, you're makin' me cry (with laughter :). But really, this whole weird McCain/Palin show is going to go down as a historical low for the American people if they get elected. This will even beat the bizarre 2000 and 2004 election outcomes. Is Idiocracy becoming a reality?
September 6, 2008
6:23 p.m.
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windskull writes:
So sorry to burst your bubble there truthaboutdems BUT there is a little site out there called FACT CHECK and guess what? They were completely under the radar having only had to surface when deceitful lies spewed forth in St Paul and required correction
September 7, 2008
11:25 a.m.
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mytwosense writes:
So far, I see no deviation by Governor Palin from the usual extremist rightwing tactics: vilify the media, then refuse to talk to the media.
Unfortunately, the vast amount of Americans can't make her scripted Colorado Springs campaign stop. Unscripted interviews with the media, and without the aid of a teleprompter, is the only way we can find out more about her true policies.
I can understand if she banned any questions about her children, I would fully support that. But this country has a right to know her true position on separation of church and state, based on all the information pouring in that she's a hardcore Assembly of God evangelical. I'm not even talking about abortion, I'm talking about suggesting to a librarian she might want to have some books banned!
But mostly, we need to know if she's actually intelligent and intellectually curious enough to be second-in-command, or just shrewd and quick with a sarcastic quip. The only way to know that is through unscripted interviews with the media.
Perhaps that's why the McCain campaign took the precautionary step of denouncing the media.
Well, if this campaign really put "Country First," and was truly hellbent on "reform,'" then they would be an open book.
Same old talk. Same old refusal to actually walk the walk.
September 7, 2008
12:24 p.m.
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diggtbks writes:
Yea like Uh-bama and his handlers refused interviews on FOX News for last 18 months until last week (Oreilly)? How will he conduct no preconditioned negotiations with the world's worst regimes if he doesn't have the courage to be on FOX?
Oh yea, don't forget in the past, any question about Uh-bama's patriotism or platform is racist?
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/...
September 7, 2008
12:49 p.m.
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GetReal writes:
It would be nice if Palin was granted an intimate interview spot so America could get to know her.
You would think a fellow strong, successful women who has a huge media platform that reaches millions of women would be fighting for that interview,
But Oprah has banned any Palin appearance until after the election saying she doesn't want her show to get political.
This is of course after Barrack and Michell, Edwards and his wife, Hillary........have all appeared.