McCain in Durango: 'I know you’re worried' about the country
By Alan Gathright, Rocky Mountain News (Contact), Hector Gutierrez, Rocky Mountain News (Contact), Lisa Ryckman, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)
Published October 24, 2008 at 10:24 a.m.
Updated October 24, 2008 at 7:17 p.m.
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Brandon Young serves Republican presidential candidate John McCain and former Broncos quarterback John Elway at Conway's Red Top in Colorado Springs.
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Republican presidential candidate John McCain greets voters at a rally of more than 6,000 people at Durango High School on Friday night.
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Republican presidential candidate John McCain and his wife, Cindy, walk with CEO Tom Neppl at Springs Fabrication in Colorado Springs on Friday.
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Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain walks onto the stage at the National Western Complex in Denver.
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Former Broncos quaterback John Elway shakes hands before taking stage at the National Western Complex in Denver.
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Republican presidential candidate John McCain kicked off a three-stop barnstorm of Colorado today at a morning rally with legendary Broncos quarterback John Elway at Denver’s National Western Arena.
The stakes are high as political analysts call Colorado a “must-win” state for the Arizona senator, who’s trailing Democrat Barack Obama in polls here and in other key battleground states.
McCain hits airport rallies in Colorado Springs this afternoon and Durango tonight.
The Rocky blogged live from the National Western complex this morning and on the Durango event tonight.
6:42 p.m.
McCain and his wife bid farewell.
6:39 p.m.
McCain tells his supporters, “I know you’re worried.” He reassures his audience that the country will be safer and prosper under a McCain-Palin administration despite the challenges ahead. He encourages his backers to continue fighting for “our children’s future. ... Stand up to defend our country against our enemies. We never give up…”
6:35 p.m.
The crowd breaks into chants of USA, USA. McCain vows to veto every pork-barrel spending that comes “before my desk.” “You’ll know their names,” he says of lawmakers.
McCain makes a slight pause when he says to the audience: “If I’m elected president. … WHEN I’m elected president,” and the audience burst into cheers.
6:25 p.m.
Graham introduces McCain to loud cheers of his backers. Reiterating what Graham just remarked, McCain echoes Obama’s line of “spreading the wealth.” He looks to the crowd and said Joe the Plumber wouldn’t want that. “The Joes here don’t want that. Joe the florist, Joe the carpenter, Joe the plumber’s kid, Paul the landowner, Josie the nurse…”
“In this country, we believe in spreading the opportunity,” McCain retorted to Barack Obama’s line. McCain alludes to the economic slowdown and says Obama, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will raise taxes on Americans, which will do more damage to the economy.
McCain didn’t hesitate to bring up Joe Biden’s comments that Obama will be tested in the first few months of his administration. Obama’s response, McCain says, will be to raise taxes and reduce the strength of the military.
The senator blasts Wall Street bigwigs for helping to create the current economic crisis. He says the underlying problem with market problems was created by foreclosures and bad mortgages.
6:17 p.m.
Cindy McCain introduces South Carolina Sen. Lindsay Graham as her husband’s “best friend in the world.” Graham calls the Republican senator as the one person who can reach across the aisle to resolve the country’s problems. “We don’t anybody who sounds good. We need somebody who works hard,” Graham says alluding to Democratic challenger Barack Obama’s speaking abilities.
Joe the Plumber is introduced again by Graham, and he reminds the audience of Obama’s line of “spreading the wealth around.” Graham also resurrects the words of Democratic vice presidential pick Joe Biden, who told supporters in Washington that the world plans to test Obama in the first six months of his administration.
6:12 p.m.
McCain appears on stage with his wife, Cindy, in Durango, with the backdrop of Rocky’s theme blaring in the background as a throng of supporters wave “Country First” signs and chant “USA”! Cindy McCain is the first to greet the audience with “Thank you, Colorado. Thank you so much for being here. …I can’t tell you how pleased I am to see so many people here in support of my husband.”
10:52 p.m.
“Once enacted, taxes have a way of spreading and rising,” McCain warns, saying he and Sarah Palin will cut budgetary waste in Washington.
He asks if people agree that Palin is great. The crowd roars approval.
McCain says “Joe the Plumber” and other small business owners have reminded everyone: “America didn’t become the greatest county on earth by giving our money to the government to spread the wealth around.”
People cheer,
McCain raises Democratic Vice Presidential nominee Joe Biden’s recent comment that Obama would be challenged by an international crisis with six months of taking office.
McCain says that Obama explained that Senator Biden is prone to rhetorical flourishes.
“That’s another way of saying that he accidentally delivered some straight talk!” McCain says.
As for Biden invoking young President John F. Kennedy during the Cuban Missile Crisis, McCain says he was a Navy pilot on board the U.S.S. Enterprise off Cuba at the time.
“I will not be a president that needs to be tested. I have been tested. Senator Obama hasn’t,” he says to cheers.
“We know that Sen. Obama won’t have the right response” in a crisis, he adds.
“He opposed the surge strategy (in Iraq). He still refused to admit that it worked,” McCain says.
“He said that he would sit down unconditionally with the world’s worst dictators,” he said as people boo Obama.
“We need action…and we need to fight for it,” McCain says.
He vows to push take the nation in a new direction from Day 1 in office
“I’m not afraid of the fight and I’m ready for it,” he says.
“If I’m elected, when I’m elected president” – the crowd cheers – “we’re going to stop sending $700 billion overseas to buy oil from countries don’t like us very much.”
McCain offers people “a little straight talk.”
“I know you’re worried. America’s a great country, but we’re at a moment of national crisis that will determine our future,” he says.
“Let me ask you:
“Will we continue to lead the world’s economies or will we be overtaken?”
“Will the world become safer or more dangerous?”
“Will our military remain the strongest in the world?”
“Will our children’s and grandchildren’s future be brighter than ours?”
“My answer to you is: Yes,” as the audience rises to his affirmation.
“Yes, we will lead! Yes, we will prosper! Yes, we will be safer!”
“We will pass onto our children a stronger, better country, but we must be prepared to act swiftly, boldly with courage and wisdom,” McCain says, picking up the cadence.
“I am an American and I choose to fight.”
“Don’t give up hope, be strong,” he urges the crowd. “Have courage and fight, fight for a new direction for our country. Fight for what’s right for America. Fight to clean up the mess of corruption, in-fighting and selfishness in Washington. Fight to get our country out and our economy out of the ditch and back in the lead.”
“Fight for our children’s future. Fight for justice and opportunity for all. Stand up to defend our country from its enemies.”
“America is worth fighting for. Nothing is inevitable here. We never give up. We never quit...”
“Now let’s go win this election and get this country moving again!’ McCain ends and the crowd roars approval
10:32 a.m.
McCain blasts Barack Obama for a tax plan that would redistribute the wealth of America.
The crowd boos Obama.
"My opponent's massive tax increase is the wrong approach,” McCain says, talking about new reports of 15,000 new job losses Thursday.
The group of protesters, at least some of whom are in wheelchairs, are lead out by police. The crowd boos. McCain holds up his hand to calm them.
McCain warns Americans can’t afford to have Democrats control both the White House and Congress.
He says Obama would boost taxes and hurt small businesses and working-class Americans.
10:30 a.m.
Security has surrounded the group of protesters. Their chant is still audible, but it's subdued.
10:27 a.m.
Cindy McCain says her husband exhibits “leadership and character every day.”
She introduces her husband as a man “who’s about duty, who’s about honor and, of course, he’s all about country.”
McCain thanks Elway and Lynch for being example courage and pokes fun at himself as a “mediocre junior high school” football player.
As a senator from arid Arizona, he says “I thank you for the water, please keep sending it down to Arizona.”
“I will not renegotiate the Colorado River Compact. Colorado will keep its water,” he assures them.
He talks about the tough road in the last days of a tough campaign.
“With your help we’re going win Colorado. This is going to be a tough state my friends. We’re going to be up late. But we’re going to win here,” McCain says.
The crowd chants “USA! USA!” and “John McCain! John McCain!”
10:25 a.m.
Several protesters at the back of the crowd are chanting, "In God's community, choice!" Their banner has been ripped, and McCain supporters are trying to drown them out with a "USA!" chant.
They're continuing to chant while McCain speaks.
10:20 a.m.
“I’m proud to look John McCain in the eye and let him know that he and Sarah Palin have earned my trust,” Lynch said.
“I know that on Nov. 4 he’s going to deliver victory.”
Lynch introduces Elway.
“As an NFL quarterback I learned about pressure under fire, leadership and personal sacrifice."
He says that McCain has also proven his mettle during years of service to the country.
Elways says that some pundits are counting McCain out.
“I know a thing or two about comebacks,” Elway says to cheers, “and I cannot wait until Nov.4 when you once again prove those pundits wrong and elect our next president of the United States.”
Elway urges the crowd to spend the next 11 days “doing everything you can in your power to see that (McCain and running mate Sarah Palin) are elected.”
He introduces Cindy McCain.
Obama returns to Colorado Sunday with rallies in Denver and Fort Collins as campaigning reaches a fever pitch with the election just 11 days away.
10:15 a.m.
“My name is John Lynch and I couldn’t be more proud, honored…to be here this morning.”
“I miss you, too,” Lynch responds to a Bronco fan.
“It’s an honor to be on the stage with a true American hero, John McCain.”
The crowd cheers.
He thanks McCain for his years of public service. "And thank you for the next four you're about to embark on as the president of the United States of America. And we’ve got to make sure that happens, right?”
The former pro-bowl safety puts the last 11 days of the campaign into football terms.
“It’s the fourth quarter and it’s crunch time and we’ve got to get this thing right,” Lynch says.
10:11 a.m.
McCain give the crowd a thumbs up as former Bronco John Lynch thanks the crowd.
10:07 a.m.
To heroic music and thunderous applause former Denver Broncos John Elway and John Lynch are introduced along with John and Cindy McCain their daughter Meghan
10:04 a.m.
The crowd's expending nervous energy by doing the wave. It actually went all the way around the bleachers twice before petering out. There are lots of families with babes in arms and kids on shoulders. They'll actually be able to see. Creedence Clearwater Revival’s song Stuck in Lodi Again is playing.
9:36 a.m.
Anna Gilmer, 11, is wearing a white cowboy hat with a McCain sticker on it, and a button that says "NOBAMA."
She says she likes McCain because he's a Christian. "That's very important. Also his pro-life views," she says. And his plans for winning the war in Iraq.
Anna combines her love of politics with a great set of pipes whenever she can. "I'm singing at a nursing home tomorrow," she says. The show will include her favorite song, "God Bless the USA."
"I've been singing that since I was 4," she says. "I really like patriotic songs."
9:30 a.m.
Cathy Hodgson from Denver is one of those independents the candidates are fighting over. She's here to get a closer look at McCain.
"I want to get a feel for him you can't get from TV," she says.
Hodgson says she's kept an open mind throughout the election, but she's impressed by McCain's experience -- the kind you want in the 4th quarter when your team is down.
She says Obama seems to have all the answers, but that fixing the nation's problems is easier said than done.
9:20 a.m.
U.S. Senate candidate Bob Schaffer gets a big cheer. He makes a plea for people to get out and do their part for the next 10 days. He says the race is going to be close, that Colorado is still a toss-up.
"If you can contribute money, do it now," he says.
If elected, Shaffer promises to uphold all of President McCain's vetoes of congressional spending.
Aides have circulated through the crowd with tiny American flags, and everybody's waving them now.
9:16 a.m.
Owens thanks the crowd for coming out to elect the "Next president of the United States, John McCain!"
He talks about our troops. "We ask so much of so many to protect the freedom we have right here, right now."
"We have seen the sacrifice of brave Americans," he says. "I want to ask you each day for the next 10 days to do something to elect John McCain." He suggests calling neighbors, relatives, friends and ask them, "Can you do this for John McCain?"
U.S. Senate candidate Bob Schaffer gets a big cheer. He makes a plea for people to get out and do their part for the next 10 days. He says the race is going to be close, that Colorado is still a toss-up.
"If you can contribute money, do it now," he says.
If elected, Shaffer promises to uphold all of President McCain's vetoes of congressional spending.
Aides have circulated through the crowd with tiny American flags, and everybody's waving them now.
9:11 a.m.
Wayne Allard is introduced, and he talks about how Obama's tax plan will hurt small business. "Joe the Plumber is right, wouldn't you say?"
At the mention of Joe, signs go up: "Fight for Joe's Dough" and "Joe the Plumber is the Heart and Soul of CO."
Allard says the McCain/Palin ticket is the most experienced, and he puts in a couple of pitches for Bob Schaffer while he's at it. "God Bless America," he says, then introduces former Gov. Bill Owens.
8:45 a.m.
The crowd waves white plastic cowboy hats to "I'm Proud to be an American" and sing along with "God Bless America."
The atmosphere is electric, and the crowd is already revved up. There's a thunderous cheer at the mention of McCain's name. A massive America flag hangs behind some bleachers, and there are red, white and blue banners and flags everywhere.
The crowd has started chanting "We want John! We want John!" But it's unclear whether they're talking about McCain or Elway.
8:30 a.m.
Vilma Carlson has come from Tekonsha, Michigan, to attend the rally with daughter Robin Carlson and granddaughter Rachel Carlson Harris. They carrying signs that identify them as "Three Generations for McCain."
"We saw the light a long time ago," Vilma Carlson said.
They have people on the other side in the family, but nobody's changing anybody's mind about this election.
"We have arguments," Vilma said. "That's what democracy is all about."
8:22 a.m.
Protesters are standing at the fence near the main entrance to the building -- both pro-McCain and anti-Obama signs are out. "Hocky Mom for Obama" is right next to "Bad Change.com, whose literature indicates their main issue is abortion.
The biggest banner belongs to SAFER -- Safer Alternative For Enjoyable Recreation -- who promote marijuana as a safer choice than alcohol.
Their sign asks "What's the difference between Cindy McCain and a marijuana dealer? Mrs. McCain has made a fortune selling a more harmful drug -- alcohol."
"That's just sad," a woman wearing a McCain button says to one of the SAFER volunteers.
8:15 a.m.
A guy in a massive Chevy Silverado nearly sideswipes a reporter's car in the parking lot outside the National Western complex. Turns out it's U.S. Sen. Wayne Allard, who's going to be one of the speakers at the event.
"We have a VW and a truck, and I usually drive the Vw," he said apologetically."My wife took the VW today, so I got stuck with this."
Allard says he thinks the McCain campaign is doing better than polls might reflect.
"If you'll recall, some polls had me down by 12 points last election, and I won by 6," he said.
He was at the last Colorado rally for Sarah Palin, and he hasn't seen any negativity. "People seem pretty excited," he said, noting that the line to get into the McCain event stretches all the way around the National Western complex.
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October 24, 2008
8:51 a.m.
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5thgennative writes:
Man I wish that I could be there! Go McCain!
October 24, 2008
9 a.m.
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enough321 writes:
Me too! It's just like the Stock Show, only with twice the smell!
October 24, 2008
9:02 a.m.
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UNV_ME writes:
Yeah... People are lining up to see the train wreck that is John McCain.
October 24, 2008
9:10 a.m.
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Freshynana writes:
Elway??? Say it isn't so. I still love the guy...
October 24, 2008
9:11 a.m.
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glycerine831 writes:
yawn.
October 24, 2008
9:27 a.m.
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Speak writes:
NOBama “Welfare” re-allocation
Some “POT” in every decision
Dibs on the Lincoln bedroom after all he “did free-me”...
October 24, 2008
9:28 a.m.
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deezBroncs1127 writes:
Love Elway to death but cmon Mccain, you just said that Obama is Mr.Hollywood. Why use the biggest icon Colorado has ever had. Ohh Wait, That's Why, your down in the polls and need every little bit of help that you can.
October 24, 2008
9:32 a.m.
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Jesse writes:
Well, Obama has the support of Opie, Sheriff Taylor and the Fonz!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10...
October 24, 2008
9:32 a.m.
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Mommyx4 writes:
Awww man, now I've got to cancel my reservation at Elway's tonight....
October 24, 2008
9:44 a.m.
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Hambone writes:
Bill Owens? Where have you gone Bill? You were the rising star of the GOP just a few years ago! What happened? Did your woody get you in trouble?
October 24, 2008
9:45 a.m.
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psu96 writes:
I got news CO is no longer a toss up state...
October 24, 2008
10 a.m.
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voicewithin writes:
Let McCain take the stage! Let everyone see how stupid he is! Why is McCain's campaign struggling? One stupid mistake after stupid mistake beginning with Sarah 666 Palin.
A Special Interest / Private Interest Sort of VP in Palin
68 % of the women in America earn $25,000. in annual salary, NOT $22,800. EVERY TWO WEEKS just to make Sarah look good. WOW! Based on these numbers Sarah if were elected her traveling make up artist would earn $592,800.00 annually. That would be over 23 times more than the average American woman earns annually!
This shows what a fool McCain is.
On 09-or-08 the Texas Chronicle reported that John McCain and Sarah Palin today cast the new Republican presidential ticket as a team of determined reformers eager to challenge Washington's political establishment. "John McCain doesn't run with the Washington herd," said Palin, the 44-year-old Alaska governor and surprise pick as McCain's running mate. "It's over. It's over. It's over for the special interests," McCain promised. "We're going to start working for the people of this country."
How is purchasing $150,000.00 in clothing and paying a private jet setting make-up artist $22,800.00 in two weeks WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE OF OUR COUNTRY?
For more information on John Foolish McCain and his jet-setting sidekick Sarah 666 Palin, visit http://www.ibelievethis.us
October 24, 2008
10:06 a.m.
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McGowdog writes:
Give me my Freedom, Guns, and Money! You keep the Change.
Life is like a diaper, let the libs change it.
McCain's campaign is NOT struggling. Looky here you idiot! http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx
Read em and weep! You've got the media AND the internet on your side and it's all gonna come down to my vote. The early voters are even now! This ain't gonna be no Obama landslide.
McCain/Palin 08'
October 24, 2008
10:06 a.m.
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NeilT writes:
My friends.
MY friends.
my FRIENDS.
MY FRIENDS!
Thank you, my friends.
October 24, 2008
10:07 a.m.
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Hambone writes:
I wonder how much bigger Obama's rally on Sunday will be compared to McCain's. 100,000 in St. Louis the other day. Repubs can only blame the current administration for such sentiment.
October 24, 2008
10:09 a.m.
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Beau writes:
The Barakopolis in Denver final tally: 5.3 million.
That's where your donations are going on the Democrat side. Sarah's wardrobe is going to charity after the election, where it will probably earn more than they paid for it.
I'm still amazed. 5.3 million, 800 million in donations, and Obama still can't move out of a tie. Where does a socialist go to buy an election around here?
October 24, 2008
10:16 a.m.
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jay writes:
i wish i could be there....to ask him how he justifies a vote for a third bush term.
October 24, 2008
10:18 a.m.
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NeilT writes:
McGowdog writes: "Life is like a diaper, let the libs change it."
You're right! As usual, it takes a Dem to cleanup the messes left by your party.
You should be thankful. It will probably be a "lib" changing your diaper soon enough.
October 24, 2008
10:19 a.m.
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Cowboy63 writes:
You might as well go pull those Obama signs out of your front yards now Libs...
Broncos Orange trumps Democrat Blue all day long in my State.
Go John, Go!!!
(and that goes for McCain, Elway and Lynch)
October 24, 2008
10:27 a.m.
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UNV_ME writes:
This is your party republicans.... I can't believe these people still exist! Stupid is just not strong enough word to describe them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfq...
October 24, 2008
10:27 a.m.
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DenverDan writes:
Elway falls in the top 1% percent for sure. He loves Bush/McCain tax plan. He is still my hero. I guess if I had 90 million I would need the best tax break, screw the middle class.
October 24, 2008
10:29 a.m.
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joggle writes:
Beau (and Cowboy): I have found nothing online to backup your claim that the clothes will be auctioned off. This is what McCain has said about it:
'"She needed clothes at the time. They'll be donated at end of this campaign. They'll be donated to charity," McCain told reporters on his campaign bus between Florida rallies.' http://www.startribune.com/politics/n...
I suppose the charity can auction them if they want but that money will obviously not make its way back to the campaign. I don't know about you, but given how they are short on cash it seems like a very extravagant expense they could not afford. They could have found plenty of nice clothes for Palin and her family for a lot less than $150k. I mean, who is she trying to impress? Elites that actually care about designer clothes or everyday people like yourself that couldn't care less about what label is on her jacket?
October 24, 2008
10:34 a.m.
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glycerine831 writes:
Battleground States
Obama McCain Spread
Colorado 50.4 45.0 Obama +5.4
Ohio 50.0 43.4 Obama +6.6
Florida 47.8 45.6 Obama +2.2
Nevada 49.3 46.0 Obama +3.3
Missouri 48.0 45.3 Obama +2.7
North Carolina 49.2 47.2 Obama +2.0
Virginia 51.5 44.5 Obama +7.0
October 24, 2008
10:36 a.m.
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NeilT writes:
If Palin wants to know what it's really like to care for a special needs kid, she just needs to ask her 7-year-old daughter. That poor kid is always holding, carrying and generally playing mother (licking her hand and fixing his hair at the RNC, it was cute, but sad when you really think about it) to her little brother.
Palin has no idea what it's like. $150k would cover 5 years worth of medication for my son.
October 24, 2008
10:41 a.m.
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glycerine831 writes:
As a senator from arid Arizona, he says “I thank you for the water, please keep sending it down to Arizona.”
“I will not renegotiate the Colorado River Compact. Colorado will keep its water,” he assures them.
LMAO!!!!
October 24, 2008
10:41 a.m.
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Sal writes:
Looks like that McCain supporter who claimed to have been cut up in Pennsylvania by an Obama supporter made up the entire story. The police gave her a lie detector test and now the entire story has changed.
The depths to which McCain and his supporters will go to trick the American people apparently knows no bounds. When you run a sleazeball campaign the way McCain has, it's no wonder that others will try to imitate it by smearing Obama.
Here's the NEW story.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081024/a...
October 24, 2008
10:42 a.m.
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Bob299 writes:
After 8 years of the Bush/McCain regime, I've lost over $50,000 in my investment accounts, the value of my home is down 10% (I'm lucky that I'm not underwater like most of America), McCain wants to tax my family's health benefits (I can tell you that $5,000 won't afford anyone any decent healthcare in the open market - the insurance companies will love it because they will be shooting fish in a barrel), I have yet to see any of the "trickle-down" economics from Bush's tax cuts to his buddies in the millionaire-crowd, and they are contemplating layoffs at my company after holding out for a year.
All of you Republicans can vote McCain and cut your nose off to spite your face.
McCain is 72 years old - Do you honestly think Palin is fit to lead? She can't even face down Katie Couric or Charlie Gibson - and they are the friendly faces of morning television.
McCain will be 4 more years of disaster.
Vote Obama.
October 24, 2008
10:47 a.m.
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Over_Nobama writes:
The NObama lemmings are really out today. Have fun following him right off a cliff.
October 24, 2008
10:49 a.m.
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Highcountry writes:
Elway and Lynch are disappointing. I've always known Elway was a Republican but I forgot that sometimes he is a loser.
October 24, 2008
10:51 a.m.
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NeilT writes:
The entire country went over that cliff already. At least with Obama we have a chance for a softer landing.
Lemmings? I bet you created the "Nobama" slogan. You're not just following a smarter, more creative person in your backwards party, are you? Nope, you're the leader!
October 24, 2008
10:56 a.m.
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October 24, 2008
10:56 a.m.
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Buff4Life writes:
Wow. I can't believe Elway likes McCain's tax plan. That's really a wonder.
Oh wait, under Obama, Elway gets taxed more, the budget is balanced, I get taxed less, and Elway won me two Super Bowls.
Under McCain, Elway gets taxed less, we go further down the rabbit hole that is our National debt, I get taxed more, and Elway won me two Super Bowls.
Either way, I've got two Super Bowls. I could care less about Elway off the field. I'll take more money in my pocket and a balanced budget.
Obama '08
October 24, 2008
11:01 a.m.
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Over_Nobama writes:
Some of Obama's plans include "taking on the insurance companies" and taking on "big business." In case you have not noticed, this is a capitalist society. Many of the people who are rich have worked there buts off to get where they are. Some worked there way out of poverty to where they are today (didn't Obama?). Obama had to work to get where he is and I respect that from what he came from and it also shows how possible it is without a trillion dollars in new "programs" and "spreading the wealth." Also, the big companies of this country have become very powerful in the world. Do you really think Nobama can change that? Absolutely not. Obama's plans to raise taxes on the rich, will result in them saving money elsewhere (ie. cutting jobs). A vote for Obama i a vote for socialism in this cocuntry which is a proven failure.
October 24, 2008
11:07 a.m.
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kel writes:
Bob299- I'm surprised that you are still blaming Bush for what has happened to the economy. Actually I'm not. People are pretty ignorant. Do you realize that we have had a Democratic Congress for the past two years?? If you are pissed about the value of your house, then you need to AT LEAST assign SOME blame to Clinton and his act which pressured Fannie Mae to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people??
Also, the health care?? Really?? Obama wants to expand the government and spend more of the tax payers money in order to SOCIALIZE health care so that everyone can have mediocre health care and people who work hard can't have great health care.
That sounds a lot like the problems we are having with public schooling too. Oh and Obama thinks that we need to spend more money and expand the government even more with that. Nevermind that America has more money in the public schooling system than any other country, yet we aren't even in the top ten in performance.
I don't understand how so many people can sit by and actually think that socialism is the best thing for our country. It didn't work in Russia and it won't work here.
October 24, 2008
11:07 a.m.
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NeilT writes:
mt,
The wing-nuts on the RMN website were saying it was typical libs when this girl was "attacked." They're claiming that "libs" are violent.
Hurricane? What about the Republican stronghold that is known as Texas? You know, the idiots that were told for weeks that a nasty storm was coming. Those same idiots that stayed to tough it out. The same idiots that called the socialist phone number known as 911 begging for somebody to come and get them once the water started to rise.
October 24, 2008
11:11 a.m.
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Over_Nobama writes:
kel.......... well said....
October 24, 2008
11:12 a.m.
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I_am_smarter_than_you writes:
Should have known that Mr. Dirtbag John Elway would support McCain. It took John 4 tries to win the big one. Too bad McAncient doesn't have time for a few more....
October 24, 2008
11:13 a.m.
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I_am_smarter_than_you writes:
Hey, what do McCain and Elway have in common? Both left their first wife. This is the party that runs on the Family Values™ ticket.
October 24, 2008
11:14 a.m.
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glycerine831 writes:
Things to do in Denver When you're dead (in the polls)
Call Elway for his support... Check
Talk about "Joe the plumber" when your standing with "John the millionaire" (TWO OF THEM)...Check
Contradict yourself in the same breath
(As a senator from arid Arizona, he says “I thank you for the water, please keep sending it down to Arizona. I will not renegotiate the Colorado River Compact. Colorado will keep its water,”
Check!
October 24, 2008
11:16 a.m.
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BigSky182 writes:
Hambone writes:
I wonder how much bigger Obama's rally on Sunday will be compared to McCain's. 100,000 in St. Louis the other day. Repubs can only blame the current administration for such sentiment.
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Of course Obama has better attendance at his rallies.... most of John McCain's supporters are AT WORK during the day!!
October 24, 2008
11:19 a.m.
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Over_Nobama writes:
BigSky182 , why go to work when you can just kick back and for for Obama trillion dollars in "programs"
October 24, 2008
11:19 a.m.
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NeilT writes:
"Hey, what do McCain and Elway have in common?"
They're both afraid of getting tackled by a big black man?
October 24, 2008
11:22 a.m.
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PonchoVia writes:
Many, many prominent Republicans are voting for Obama. Below is a short list:
Elected Officials:
Jim Leach, Former Congressman from Iowa
Lincoln Chafee, Former United States Senator from Rhode Island
Wayne Gilchrest, Congressman from Maryland
Richard Riordan, Former Mayor of Los Angeles
Lowell Weicker, Former Governor and Senator from Connecticut
Jim Whitaker, Fairbanks, Alaska Mayor
Linwood Holton, Former Governor of Virginia
Government Officials:
Colin Powell, Secretary of State under Bush 43
Douglas Kmiec, Head of the Office of Legal Counsel under Reagan & Bush 41
Jackson M. Andrews, Republican Counsel to the U.S. Senate
Susan Eisenhower, Granddaughter of President Eisenhower & President of the Eisenhower Group
Francis Fukuyama, Advisor to President Reagan
Rita Hauser, Former White House intelligence advisor under George W. Bush
Larry Hunter, Former President Reagan Policy Advisor
Bill Ruckelshaus, served in the Nixon and Reagan administrations
Ken Adelman, served in the Ford administration
Lilibet Hagel, Wife of Republican Senator Chuck Hagel
Scott McClellan, Former Press Secratary for George W. Bush
Arne Carlson, Former Minnesota Governer
William Weld, Former Massachussetts Governer
Columnists and Academics:
Jeffrey Hart, National Review Senior Editor
Andrew Bacevich, Professor of International Relations at Boston University
David Friedman, Economist and son of Milton and Rose Friedman
Christopher Buckley, Son of National Review founder William F. Buckley & former NR columnist
Andrew Sullivan, Columnist for the Atlantic Monthly
Wick Alison, Former publisher of the National Review
Michael Smerconish, Columnist for the Philadelphia Enquirer
Others
CC Goldwater and sibling/cousins, grandchildren of Republican icon Barry Goldwater
Source: http://www.republicansforobama.org/?q...
Republicans, you CAN vote for Barack Obama. Many other Republicans have and will vote for Barack Obama.
Vote Obama/Biden!
October 24, 2008
11:23 a.m.
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RightDownTheMiddle writes:
Did he refer to Elway as "John the QB" and then start calling out all the idiots with the name Joe in the crowd?
I'm embarrassed for you McCain supporters......or should I call you "Joe the morons"?
October 24, 2008
11:23 a.m.
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Over_Nobama writes:
PonchoVia: you are a broken record. You post the same crap every day
October 24, 2008
11:27 a.m.
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PonchoVia writes:
Over_nObama, actually that's not true because the number of prominent Republicans who endorse Obama grows everyday and the poll numbers keep showing Obama's lead growing. So, really it's different everyday. You betcha! ;)
Vote Obama/Biden!
October 24, 2008
11:27 a.m.
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Over_Nobama writes:
PonchoVia........... Any one can vote for whoever they wish. Which is how the democratic system works (in case you didn't know that). Most republicans, and even some dems, understand what socialism is and DO NOT want that in our country. A vote for NObama is a "vote for Change." A change from capitalism to socialism.
October 24, 2008
11:30 a.m.
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Over_Nobama writes:
In case you have not been looking at Gallup recently, Obama has been losing ground on McCain (with the exception of today). And polls mean nothing. All that matters is the final vote.
October 24, 2008
11:31 a.m.
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joggle writes:
Over_Nobama: "A vote for Obama i a vote for socialism in this cocuntry which is a proven failure."
Mr student of history, which market-based approached pulled the US out of the Great Depression? What socialist-based approach led to the depression in the first place? (note: these are trick questions, but not rhetorical)
October 24, 2008
11:31 a.m.
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pete10000ft writes:
Elway supports him?! How many concussions did he have?!?!
October 24, 2008
11:33 a.m.
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PonchoVia writes:
Over_nObama, untrue. Obama's tax rates just bring us back to what they were pre-Bush 43. Interestingly, McCain himself opposed Bush's tax cuts.... before he was for them....
Here's McCain on Meet the Press discussing his flip-flop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYsKiA...
So, when McCain was opposed to the Bush tax cuts, why wasn't McCain "socialist"?
Vote Obama/Biden
October 24, 2008
11:35 a.m.
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INC writes:
BigSky182,
yeah mcSame supporters Work on SUNDAY...
spew another one.
October 24, 2008
11:36 a.m.
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kel writes:
Just like some black people can vote for McCain.
Below is a link
http://suppressednews.com/mynews/news...
Disclaimer- If you are one of the mindless leftist Obama followers (you know, the ones who like him because George Clooney and all your professors do) you will most likely become offended because it challenges a lot of what is in pop culture and the media. If you are still undecided or just open minded and curious, enjoy.
October 24, 2008
11:40 a.m.
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PonchoVia writes:
Over_NObama, which is it? The polls show Obama losing ground, or polls are worthless?
Actually, here are polls of polls (averages of polls) showing Obama's lead growing:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics...
http://www.pollster.com/
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/
Vote Obama/Biden!
October 24, 2008
11:41 a.m.
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INC writes:
Over_Nobama, kel...
ENJOY the current electoral vote tally...
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
October 24, 2008
11:43 a.m.
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joggle writes:
kel: "Disclaimer- If you are one of the mindless leftist Obama followers (you know, the ones who like him because George Clooney and all your professors do)"
If Obama followers are mindless, then why day after day are they able to make posts defending him. If McCain's followers aren't mindless then why can they not defend him? Even some of the best conservative posters here (Reason and Logic) have shown no inclination to defending McCain substantially.
kel, do you volunteer to try to defend McCain for once? I would be more than happy to cut my teeth on a strong anti-McCain post (which I have abstained from doing to this point because nobody will defend the poor guy).
October 24, 2008
11:45 a.m.
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Erocker writes:
all you democrats keep this up, and you will see how your taxes will go up. Right now Obama and the Democratic congress are looking at taking away tax credit for your 401K. When the 2002 tax cut goes away your taxes will also increase. We will be going back to 1989 when interest rates were 14% and inflation was 17%. You did not like Nixon so you brought in Jimmy Carter. Obama is the same as Cater. You need to learn from history!!!!
October 24, 2008
11:51 a.m.
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daRock writes:
Buff4Life said: under Obama the budget is balanced...
Are you kidding me? All of Obama's plans call for more government spending. No where has he claimed he will balance the budget, and if he did, the math does not work. He has not named one program he will cut back or eliminate. As he raises taxes on businesses, all goods will cost more. Businesses pass tax increases on to consumers as a cost of doing business. Obama will raises taxes on gas, oil companies (two separate taxes), capital gains, FICA, inheritance, income on small businesses and many more.
Investors Business Daily:
"Two-thirds of small business profits are earned in households making more than $250,000 per year," reports Americans for Tax Reform. "In 2006, $473 billion of the $706 billion of small business profits was earned in households Obama has said he would raise taxes on."
Obama's proposed increases in income taxes and Social Security taxes would shift the bulk of the profits in the small-business sector to the federal coffers, reports Americans for Tax Reform:
"The tax rate on the lion's share of small business income could reach 54.9% under a President Obama. The individual top rate will climb from 35% to 39.6% and the Social Security/Medicare tax rate could climb from 2.9% to 15.3%. Put those together and you get 54.9%."
By increasing costs, Obama's higher business taxes would have the direct effect of increasing layoffs and raising prices. His proposed 54.9% tax rate would be the highest since the Carter administration, when the nation's unemployment and inflation rates peaked, respectively, at 7.6% and 13.5%.
"Obama's tax increases will only affect you if you have a 401(k), have any savings, buy things from small businesses or are looking for a job," explains Grover Norquist, president of the Americans for Tax Reform. "If you fall into one of these categories, his policies will take money out your pocket. Otherwise, you're fine."
With federal income taxes, Obama additionally says that "95% of working families will get a cut." That, in fact, is not possible because over a third of these households don't pay federal income taxes.
Rather than being permitted to keep more of their own earnings via a tax cut, Obama is actually proposing that they'll get to pocket someone else's money as part of his "spread the wealth around" agenda.
Similarly, Obama is saying that those making less than $250,000 a year "will not see one dime's worth of tax increases." Once again, what he's not saying is that his tax hikes on businesses will be passed on to consumers by way of higher prices.
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As Obama supporters gleefully anticipate lower taxes or even a check from the government, remember "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is."
October 24, 2008
11:51 a.m.
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AC writes:
What the heck is he talking about? McCain hasn't been "tested" in any way for presidential leadership. He sat on a flight desk during the Cuban missile crisis? How is THAT testing HIM? Was he going to crash yet another airplane? He survived being a prisoner of war. How is THAT testing him for good presidential leadership? It's not. In fact it was his POOR decision skills that led to his being shot down because he failed to respond appropriately to the cockpit warning that a North Vietnamese missile was locked on him. He shoudl have broken off but instead he recklessly continued and was shot down. Horrible decision making that fails the test of leadership.
October 24, 2008
11:53 a.m.
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PuppyGal567 writes:
Hello Just wanted to Say GO McCain and Way GO go Elway.
And to Let every one know who cares About our Country and Military men and women that if you did send a Absentee Vote your vote may not count cause in the news this morning in Virginia
They Are throwing away votes that Military sent cause they were not witinessed when signed. Military has a right to Vote to every state count the votes
October 24, 2008
11:53 a.m.
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PonchoVia writes:
Erocker, I'm not a Democrat. I'm an Independent who has actually voted Republican my whole life, except for 2004, after I realized how the atrocious Bush/Rove admin had lied to America in the worst of ways. Now Bush/Rove have increased the debt to the largest amount ever and the largest % of GDP in 50 years. Bush/Rove got us in a Vietnam-like quagmire just to avenge Bushy's Daddy where we spend $10billion/month. Bush utterly failed to capture OBL. Bush/Rove have ruined the reputation of the US around the world. Bush/Rove/McCain deregulation and corporate welfare have resulted in the socialization of the banking system and the worst economy since the 1930s. Meanwhile US jobs are being cut in droves and foreclosures are rampant.
And I should reward the Republicans with my vote? Thanks, but no thanks.
Vote Obama/Biden.
October 24, 2008
11:55 a.m.
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mytwosense writes:
As far as I'm concerned, McCain failed many of his most important tests.
When he had a choice to not be bought off by Charles Keating, he failed the test of character.
When he had a choice to vote against a war that has resulted in tens of thousands of dead Americans and Iraqis, has no end in sight, and appears to have restored radical Islamic law, he failed the test of judgment.
When he had a choice to pick a VP running mate who had integrity and wisdom, he failed the test of putting his country before himself.
Thanks for the reminder.
October 24, 2008
11:57 a.m.
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Cowboy63 writes:
The whining Liberal bitterness on this string is music to my ears!
Listen to them writhe in agony over John Elway endorsing John McCain.
Go John, Go!
October 24, 2008
11:58 a.m.
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Over_Nobama writes:
If McCain loses, it will be the new Jimmy Carter administration and then we will have our Ronald Reagan, Mitt Romney.
October 24, 2008
11:59 a.m.
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joggle writes:
Erocker: I'm not worried about taxes going up (and neither should you). I'm worried about unemployment going up (which will go up, whether McCain or Obama is elected). I'm worried about efficiently stabilizing Iraq so that we can get our troops out of there to finish the job in Afghanistan (hopefully with more help from Europe with the persuasion of the Obama administration). I'm worried about our relations with Russia (which, under the Bush administration, was to essentially ignore their opinions--not a good idea--instead building missile defense systems that don't work and only serve the purpose of antagonizing them). I'm worried about the US production of goods that are desired abroad. I'm worried about a great many things and the approach by Obama to the problems I'm concerned about are far, far superior to that of McCain, much less Palin should something happen to McCain.
A vote for McCain is a vote for mediocrity. We need leadership that will be defensible and able to be explained to the rest of the world. There is very little chance of that happening under a McCain administration.
October 24, 2008
11:59 a.m.
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kel writes:
joggle, even uneducated and/or ignorant people can choose to vote for obama or make posts about him.
And you are right, not a lot of people have been defending McCain and that is because he isn't a true conservative. I'm not a huge fan of him, but he is the lesser of the two evils. My personal politics aren't represented by either of these parties, but unfortunately I have to choose. So I'm voting against Obama and not necessarily for McCain. I want less government involvement, less public social programs that have been proven time and time again they don't work, more personal freedoms, less spending, less debt. I'm a capitalist and heart and even though McCain can't really be considered one, Obama is anti.
October 24, 2008
12:01 p.m.
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Erocker writes:
AC?
How has Obama been tested, taking millions of dollars and giving them to groups like Acorn to spread there radical ideas? He was out getting people to vote that did not care about voting? How about helping his brother with some money? Or giving the school named after his father some money that he said he would?
McCain was unlucky to have his plane shoot out from under him during the biggest fire on an aircraft carrier. Then to get shoot down like a lot of the pilots during the war. Get a life
October 24, 2008
12:02 p.m.
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PonchoVia writes:
Here's the flip-flopper John McCain at his best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90n...
Vote Obama/Biden!
October 24, 2008
12:02 p.m.
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glycerine831 writes:
NoBama-" In case you have not been looking at Gallup recently, Obama has been losing ground on McCain (with the exception of today). And polls mean nothing. All that matters is the final vote."
You can't have it both ways.
October 24, 2008
12:04 p.m.
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StarsNStripes writes:
What is with all the liberal pouting today. I thought your NOBAMA had things wraped up here in CO. John Elway has been a Republican for ever. This is no surprise.
McCain / Palin 08
October 24, 2008
12:05 p.m.
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kim1299 writes:
someone please tell me how McCain has been tested and please don't tell me its because he was a POW.
October 24, 2008
12:07 p.m.
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INC writes:
Over_Nobama,
Carter is a good man... Winner of the Nobel peace prize... Carter had Ideas that if were implemented we would not be in the mess we are in today.
he $ucked in morale boosting... Ill give ya that.
Obama excels at morale, as well He will solve the messes republicans have forced upon us. Using Carters Ideas... with Carter as our foremost statesman. With an Obama victory the future looks no where near as bleak as a mcSame as bush administration...
OBAMA/Biden '08
October 24, 2008
12:08 p.m.
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jefferson3 writes:
The VP of foxnews said that if that nut in pittsburgh made her story up, the election is OVER. Desperate times for mccain supporters. Enjoy elway's endorsement and don't forget to tip your waitresses on the way out.
October 24, 2008
12:17 p.m.
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mytwosense writes:
INC: "Obama excels at morale, as well He will solve the messes republicans have forced upon us."
I am probably voting for Obama, but can I just say that no matter who wins, let's not expect him to solve our country's problems on his own. There will be many powerful forces working against this, from huge corporate influences to partisan bickering to pundits trying to incite even more division, and yes, let's not forget our crazed enemies in the Middle East.
So the people of this country are really going to have to step up here, if we can put aside our fixations on whether or not to raise taxes by three points and Joe the Plumber.
This election season has inspired so many people to get involved with politics for the first time. Let's keep doing our civic duty even after the election is over. Stay involved and hold your elected government accountable to the promises they made you!
October 24, 2008
12:18 p.m.
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O_TRAIN writes:
Elway - it's fourth and 99, no time-outs, two seconds on the clock, down two scores and you're lined up behind the guard again. You have two maverick wide-outs, one is 72 yrs old, the other is busy arguing with the "liberal" refs. Good Luck.
Seriously I loved Elway as a QB and to give him credit he earned his millions himself through athletics and business. McCain only had to say "I do" to get his millions.
October 24, 2008
12:19 p.m.
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Erocker writes:
Kim1299
Before McCain became a Congressman he spent over 20 years in the Navy. Now five of those years were in a POW camp, but at least he had a real job and did something for our country.
What has Obama done for twenty years? He became friends with "HATE America" Bill Ayers and Rev. Wright.
October 24, 2008
12:20 p.m.
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Frank25 writes:
Obama will pull in all the kids who have not registered, and would not vote anyway because he talks their language. Most radical folks McCain has ever been surrounded by was his captors in Hanoi, and in the U.S. Congress amoung the "white-haired good old boys" who have been there 20 plus years. He had reputation of having a temper, but who wouldn't have with some of the biased stupidity in both parties. Only those who earned it, received it, same as VP Cheney privately giving Leahy some advice. For those who follow Obama, maybe he will be elected, but don't expect him to follow through with his promises. There are still 455 representatives, and 100 senators in Congress, each with own ideas and agenda. They will not roll over and play dead for him or anyone else. When you (as a registered voter) remove them, will you see a change. At 79, unaffiliated voter, I have suffered some fools in office at different levels, but last candidate for President the Democrats put forth was Harry Truman, and they did not like him. I have been a democrat and a republican, and both parties left me long ago. But regardless of present "hatred of Bush and Cheney", history will record them as right for this era. Next president (? party) will have a difficult time with economy, and changing system to have some controls. Consider changing some who should have retired long ago. Oh, by the way, I voted 10 Oct and dropped ballot in ballot box.
October 24, 2008
12:22 p.m.
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AC writes:
Erocker writes: "AC? How has Obama been tested, taking millions of dollars and giving them to groups like Acorn to spread there radical ideas?"
He didn't.
"He was out getting people to vote that did not care about voting?"
OMG!! Tell me you didn't say that! How DARE we want everybody to vote!!
You sound like Paul Weyrich -- you don't want people to vote who won't vote your way.
"How about helping his brother with some money? Or giving the school named after his father some money that he said he would?
McCain was unlucky to have his plane shoot out from under him during the biggest fire on an aircraft carrier. Then to get shoot down like a lot of the pilots during the war. Get a life"
You don't know too much about the flipflopper rich-guy kiss-up you're supporting, do ya! He was shot down and made prisoner as a result of his own LACK of judgment in disregarding his cockpit warning of missile lock-on. NOT ready to lead.
October 24, 2008
12:24 p.m.
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leatherneck writes:
jefferson3: Are you saying that every McCain supporter will suddenly not vote for him if this woman was not attacked?
Whatever........
McCain / Palin 08
October 24, 2008
12:29 p.m.
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P_Denver writes:
TO ALL POSTERS:
"There" is a LOCATION . . . It is over there.
"Their" refers to people . . . It is their opinion.
"They're" is a contraction for "they are" . . . They're also contributing to the problem.
PLEASE don't sound any more ignorant than necessary!
Thank you!
(signed)
Mr. Language Person
October 24, 2008
12:30 p.m.
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joggle writes:
kel: "So I'm voting against Obama and not necessarily for McCain"
I guessed as much, and I believe Reason has expressed similar sentiments previously.
However, I don't think a campaign can win with attacks alone. While Obama has made more attack ads than anyone in history, he has also made more positive ads than anyone in history. The reason is obvious, he has a gazillion bucks. McCain has lately started running some positive ads again but are still largely negative and mostly focus on issues that aren't pressing to anyone.
Even though you are really voting against Obama rather than for McCain, I can make a very solid case as to why you would want to vote against McCain as well.
My first question is how do you determine the lesser of two evils? If you only listen to the information that is anti-Obama but ignore the information that is anti-McCain how do you really know that you are, in fact, voting for the least-bad person (so to speak)? There are many prominent Republicans that are voting against McCain for very good reasons, as probably best stated by Powell on Meet the Press this past Sunday. If Powell, who is highly intelligent and even made a significant speech at the RNC convention in 2000 for Bush's candidacy can vote for Obama why can't you? If the richest man on Earth, who is at the apex of the capitalist system, believes Obama to be the better candidate, why can't you even consider it? If 80% of professional economists in the US believe Obama has the better economic plan then why can't you even consider the possibility? http://www.economist.com/world/united...
I'm not aware of anyone on Obama's team I would consider anti-capitalist. Rather, it's really quite an impressive list of people (see http://econ4obama.blogspot.com/2008/0...)
October 24, 2008
12:30 p.m.
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Erocker writes:
AC
Your very funny. Obama is the most perfect person in the world and he is the ONE to save us all. OK I'm coming over to your side. HA HA HA!!!!
October 24, 2008
12:32 p.m.
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joggle writes:
Ha, even when I try to make an anti-McCain post I still make a pro-Obama post! I guess I'm not too mean-spirited :P.
October 24, 2008
12:33 p.m.
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jefferson3 writes:
leatherneck,
It might mean that some undecided voters are tired of the race baiting the mccain campaign is mired in and vote for Obama.
Breaking: mccain managed to scare up a whole 4,000 people today... let's check out civic center park this sunday.
October 24, 2008
12:34 p.m.
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RBN writes:
Bush and McCain's polices are proving failure all day and all night right now. Give me a little change, just something to believe in. Why are McCain follower so angry. Everything they say sounds like it comes from anger. McCain is not a bad guy, he is just not the guy for this job.
October 24, 2008
12:39 p.m.
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davis_x_machina writes:
reading the most of the wingnut posts here reminds me that that sometime darling of the American right Winston Churchill was absolutely correct when he said, "The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter".
Winnie was fortunate that he never had to converse with the typical below average wingnut voter who's never had a thought or idea not predigested for them and then regurgitated down their gullet by the likes of oxyrush limpball or one of the many other wingnut spewers.There are polls and then there's Intrade the "market-based" concensus on politics and current world events which is predicting an Obama landslide.
October 24, 2008
12:41 p.m.
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SDaedalus writes:
My kids had off from school today and I took them to McCain's appearance as a bit of civics/living-history lesson. We purposefully came on the later side and caught most of McCain's speech, but missed the warm-up acts.
One factoid not mentioned in the RMN reporter's blog: the Nat'l Western Arena is ringed by seat/bleachers in addition to the floor seating. For this event, the bleachered seats were cordoned off with black curtains starting about 1/2-way up. As a result, the remaining closer-in seating was fairly full, but not jam packed. The upshot: this was far from a full-house in this venue, likely about half the potential capacity, for whatever that is worth for political junkies comparing this event and Obama's planned Civic Center appearance on Sunday.
October 24, 2008
12:41 p.m.
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jay writes:
yeah...mccain's been "tested"....and found to have a 25% chance of dying soon enough to put Failin in office.
that's terrifying.
October 24, 2008
12:42 p.m.
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Erocker writes:
joggle: If the richest man on Earth, who is at the apex of the capitalist system, believes Obama to be the better candidate, why can't you even consider it?
The richest man on earth has no problems with the increased taxes, because he has all of the money he needs and will hide any increases form the increase in taxes. Now Powell has always been a left leaning Republican. The problem with Black people is they put race over policies.
I'm not aware of anyone on Obama's team I would consider anti-capitalist.
Except for Obama himself. Ayers is also a very anti-Capitalist. The weather underground felt that after they took over the country that they would turn it over to USSR, Cuba and North Korea and have to kill 25 million people. With halve the country in education camps.
October 24, 2008
12:48 p.m.
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leatherneck writes:
jefferson3 : That's funny. The only one bringing race up is the left. The MSM has been saying all month that "Law enforcement officials say the intense public interest and historic nature of the vote could cause riots if McCain wins"
Please............
I wonder if there will be riots if NOBAMA wins?? NO WAY.
BUT IT WILL BE OK IF NOBAMA LOSES.. That is typical liberal crap.
If that woman made up her story, and it is possible, but who cares. Like that woman represents the rest of us.......Please...
October 24, 2008
12:51 p.m.
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AC writes:
Erocker writes: "AC, Your [SIC] very funny. Obama is the most perfect person in the world and he is the ONE to save us all. OK I'm coming over to your side. HA HA HA!!!!"
Yo dude, take a pill, mmm-kay? He's clearly the better candidate but you ought to calm down about it.
Dems always have been called upon to clean up repub messes.
October 24, 2008
12:52 p.m.
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Barron writes:
You guys can argue to untill you're blue in the face about this race but here's the bottom line. The race is over. Colorado has gone blue, yay! Hundreds of supporters at the stock show, all looking like they come from the same family, and a has-been bronco (who apparently shares mccain's "family values.") There will most likely be hundreds of thousands at the Civic Center park on Sunday to cheer for the next president.
October 24, 2008
12:56 p.m.
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jay writes:
more "anti-capitalist", "socialist", "marxist", "terrorist" myths?
we're 11 days out.
is that really what you folks on the right are going with with a few seconds left in the fourth quarter?
October 24, 2008
1:06 p.m.
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jefferson3 writes:
Leatherneck,
If she doesn't represent you, welcome aboard! Come on down to the park on sunday and hear the next President of ALL OF OUR United States of America!
October 24, 2008
1:08 p.m.
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mytwosense writes:
Frank25 writes: "Obama will pull in all the kids who have not registered, and would not vote anyway because he talks their language."
Yeah, it's called the spread of democracy when more people join the voter base. Or do you only approve of us spreading democracy by invading weaker countries? Or when only GOP voters are added to the voter rolls?
At least the Obama youth aren't going around shooting bear cubs in the face and setting up hoax attacks that send this country straight back to the Jim Crow era.
October 24, 2008
1:15 p.m.
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leatherneck writes:
TheCaptain: You said it brother... I totally agree with you. Thanks for your comment today.
Semper fi
McCain / Palin 08
October 24, 2008
1:18 p.m.
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joggle writes:
TheCaptain: "Why is it every time I hear a leftist comment about the campaign it is a personal, emotional shot at their target?"
I don't know, are you blind? I post here all the time. Go ahead and try to find one by me that is personal or emotion or is drivel. And I'm hardly the liberal poster here that could make the same claim.
"If I get labeled an angry white for supporting McCain/Palin, then it becomes fair for me to label a Obama/Biden supporter a dumb black."
So, if I understand your 'logic' correctly, if someone is wrong about you it's fair for you to be wrong about someone else? So if I call you a pumpkin it's fair for you to call Obama a squash? OK...sounds like 3rd-grader logic to me (at best) to be honest.
October 24, 2008
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joggle writes:
Meant to say, "hardly the 'only' liberal poster here that could make the same claim."
October 24, 2008
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jefferson3 writes:
The Captain,
How much more scrutiny is needed when a mccain campaign worker sets up a situation where a 'large black, angry obama supporter' robs her and cuts her face? mccain has quietly moved his campaign into an incredibly dishonorable place. You are who you hang out with. Why is it such a bad idea to finally have a government who gives a lick about the ENTIRE nation???
October 24, 2008
1:27 p.m.
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PonchoVia writes:
leatherneck, the woman who made up that story of getting beat up by the alleged Obama supporter is an example of the trickle down effect of hatred in the Republican party. Like the Republican "trickle down" economy, the hatred in the Republican party "trickles down" from the top to the bottom...
There is one difference though... the trickle down hatred actually trickles down! ;)
Vote Obama/Biden!
October 24, 2008
1:27 p.m.
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jay writes:
"every time I hear a leftist comment about the campaign it is a personal, emotional shot at their target"
this is quite possible the most ridiculously ignorant statement made on these blogs in months.
okay...but enough humor.
captain, i think if you'll take the time to actually read the regular posters who write here, you'll find that by far, the folks who lean to the right are more aggressive, emotional and insulting than those who are left of center.
some days it's hard to find a reasonable conservative voice capable of supporting their views with facts rather than feelings and emotional outbursts.
October 24, 2008
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mytwosense writes:
TheCaptain: "If I get labeled an angry white for supporting McCain/Palin, then it becomes fair for me to label a Obama/Biden supporter a dumb black."
You want to know why Obama is winning? Because he subscribes to the exact opposite of what you consider "fair."
When Obama's called a terrorist, he calls out McCain's policies on the economy. When he's called an unpatriotic socialist, he calls out McCain's policies on the economy. When he's accused of being a racist against whites, he calls out McCain's policies on the economy.
In short, this man keeps a cool, steady head and resists the emotional temptation to get down in the mud with his attackers. Why should he? An elevated position always more advantageous.
If McCain had done likewise, this race would be at a dead heat, maybe with McCain even well ahead. He chose not to. Instead, he chose to let the fringes of the far right dictate his campaign strategy. He gambled, and he is likely going to lose because of it.
October 24, 2008
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COnative1966 writes:
Dont make $250K? Think you won't get hit by Obama's big tax increases?
Senator John McCain, speaking in Denver today:
"Senator Obama assures us that he has a very clear target of just the top five percent of income earners. And anytime you hear talk of a targeted tax increase, you might want to double-check the skill of the marksman -- the U.S. Congress has been known to fire wildly. Remember the Alternative Minimum Tax? You probably do if you're one of the more than 30 million Americans currently threatened by it. That "targeted tax" was originally aimed at just 155 specific people. Once enacted, taxes have a way of spreading and rising. And that is why, as president, I am going to put a stop to the out of control spending, so we can keep taxes low.
The McCain-Palin tax cut is the real thing. We're going to double the child deduction for every family. We will cut the capital gains tax. And we will cut business taxes to help create jobs, and keep American businesses in America.
As Joe the Plumber and small business owners across the country have now reminded us all, America didn't become the greatest nation on earth by giving our money to the government to "spread the wealth around." In this country, we believe in spreading opportunity, for those who need jobs and those who create them. And that is exactly what I intend to do as President of the United States."
October 24, 2008
1:28 p.m.
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leatherneck writes:
jefferson3: If NOBAMA LOSES. Would you say there will be riots?
Same question if McCain loses?
October 24, 2008
1:29 p.m.
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Barron writes:
Captain - most Obama supporters are white, because white people are the majority. So go ahead and call them all angry blacks, but it will make you look stupid.
October 24, 2008
1:41 p.m.
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PonchoVia writes:
If you're worried about your taxes when Obama becomes president, go check for yourself what your tax cut will be with the "Tax Cut Calculator":
http://taxcut.barackobama.com/
October 24, 2008
1:52 p.m.
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jefferson3 writes:
Leatherneck,
The idea that riots would occur if Obama loses is another weak attempt at race baiting by the right. When mccain loses I can only hope he'll quit this bitter anger and vow to help convince his supporters to do the same. This country is too important to have it dragged through the mud.
October 24, 2008
1:55 p.m.
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glycerine831 writes:
McCain Campaign Volunteer Admits Alleged Attack Was a Hoax
www.foxnews.com
MC-Desperate
October 24, 2008
2:02 p.m.
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HankReardon writes:
Hey everybody, why don't you just shut up and vote. We are all in this together, whether you like it or not. In order for us to truly be the greatest nation on the planet, which I think we are, we must lead by example. This is not a football game. We all lose if we don't make informed decisions. Just reacting to everything with force and anger will bury us. If you really believe in the future (and not some endtimes cult fairytale), vote for your hopes and not your fears. Forward.
October 24, 2008
2:05 p.m.
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UNV_ME writes:
"I've been tested, Obama hasn't, McCain tells crowd"
Tested and failed... repeatedly. That argument is null and void.
October 24, 2008
2:07 p.m.
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PonchoVia writes:
freethought, John "I don't know how many houses I own" McCain is very out of touch with the average American. And Cindy "I only made $4.2 million in 2007" McCain is quite out of touch too.
October 24, 2008
2:10 p.m.
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Speak writes:
"If Palin wants to know what it's really like to care for a special needs kid, she just needs to ask her 7-year-old daughter".
Can't make their point without picking on children no matter what the age, ladies and gentlemen introducing the.........
Kinder-Gentler Democratic Party.
October 24, 2008
2:11 p.m.
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joggle writes:
glycerine831: "McCain Campaign Volunteer Admits Alleged Attack Was a Hoax"
I would just like to voice my opinion on this matter. I don't blame McCain or his campaign for this particular incident. However, I think this should be a reality check for people (like Uno) who believe everything they hear on Fox News and on conservative blogs and lambaste 'liberal' news for not making a bigger issue of it. This is the second time in a week that a story that was quickly spread through the conservative part of the Internet was proven to be completely false (the first was the story about Michelle Obama getting caviar at a hotel in New York City reported in the New York Post that turned out to be 100% fiction).
I'm reluctant to make this comparison, but this seems rather similar to how men were lynched back in the earlier part of the 20th century. Often a woman would make a claim that some black man attacked her, a vigilante mob would take her word for it, go find the guy and kill him. When it turned out later that her husband had been the guy that had beaten her...oh well.
This enormous, instant, ground swelling of hate and anger at Obama's supporters based on the word of this one woman (who turned out to be lying) is appalling. I'm sure there were many people out there that would have loved to have found this fictional man that attacked her and have some vigilante justice. I wonder how those same people feel now.
October 24, 2008
2:16 p.m.
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RufusTFirefly writes:
Obama is winning the "7-Election" 60% to 40%.
October 24, 2008
2:20 p.m.
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leatherneck writes:
jefferson3: That is a perfect example of a Liberal avoiding the question.
It's a yes or no answer..........
October 24, 2008
2:22 p.m.
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leatherneck writes:
jefferson3 writes:
The idea that riots would occur if Obama loses is another weak attempt at race baiting by the right
That has been brought up by the liberal media not the "Right"
Nice try...
October 24, 2008
2:28 p.m.
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PonchoVia writes:
RufusTFirefly, cool! The "7-election": a nice nugget of Americana! I love it!
October 24, 2008
2:43 p.m.
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dilligaf writes:
joggle
In my many blogs I have made it very clear that I'm an Obama supporter. But I also have to say that there is a lot of radical clowns like this women on both sides. To place this on the entire right is like them blaming some of the Acorn members on Obama. Idiots are idiots no matter what party affiliation.
October 24, 2008
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riverrafter writes:
Captain, aren't you the one who posted the long rant about the ant and the grasshopper? Talk about nasty, personal and largely unobjective. LOL!
October 24, 2008
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riverrafter writes:
speak, i liked you better when you were an evil ranter. :)
October 24, 2008
2:48 p.m.
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joggle writes:
dilligaf: Of course there's crazies on both sides. But where do you see false reports spreading like wildfire through the 'liberal' newspapers, talk shows and TV? Twice in one week this has happened on the conservative side. I don't recall it happening even once on the liberal side during this entire campaign.
October 24, 2008
3:05 p.m.
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BigSky182 writes:
HankReardon writes:
Hey everybody, why don't you just shut up and vote.
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And THAT, Laddies and Jellyfish, is the correct answer.
October 24, 2008
3:06 p.m.
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guz21715 writes:
Over_Nobama writes:
In case you have not been looking at Gallup recently, Obama has been losing ground on McCain (with the exception of today). And polls mean nothing. All that matters is the final vote.
Okay then, why bring it up? You just contradicted yourself...congrats...
October 24, 2008
3:25 p.m.
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kim1299 writes:
Erocker
that doesn't mean he can run this country it takes more than being in the service and being a POW. Tell me something he has done on his own because all he does is follow behind President Bush. And now he wants to tell a bunch of lies because he is behind in the polls. So what has McCain actually done?
October 24, 2008
3:29 p.m.
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mhow88 writes:
Cowboy63 writes:
The whining Liberal bitterness on this string is music to my ears!
Listen to them writhe in agony over John Elway endorsing John McCain.
Go John, Go!
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Listen to Republicans writhe in agony over 'COLIN POWELL' (Former 'Republican' Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff, 5 star General, and former Secretary of State) endorsing Obama!!!
October 24, 2008
3:32 p.m.
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eoj writes:
kim1299,
This is just too difficult, maybe the answer is buried in all the questions Obama has NOT answered.
Yes Obama is a natural leader as you can see below;
This is leadership!
Who is Barry Soetoro, religion Islam?
What is the status of the 3 lawsuits on proof of Barry Soetoro’s citizenship?
Why is Obama fighting those 3 lawsuits instead of proving he's a citizen??
Who is Saul Alinsky?
Who is William Ayers?
Who is Tony Rezco?
Who was not proud to be an American for most of her adult life?
Who is Jeremiah Wright?
What is Black Liberation Theology?
What about the ACORN fraud?
And to think that JFK almost lost an election because of his Catholic faith...
October 24, 2008
3:32 p.m.
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Bob299 writes:
Let's see 8 years of the Bush presidency and only two years of a Democratically controlled Congress. Yes, let's blame the economy's woes on Congress - it's a smoke screen created to hide the failures of the Republican party.
Republicans whine about taxes. That is because they want to "Share the Debt." The rich - people like Bush, McCain, Elway, and all of their oil buddies - benefit from tax cuts for themselves while the country has to borrow money to cover the deficit. Under the Bush administration, the national debt has grown to over $10 trillion. The Republican party has lost its way. It wants to cut taxes for the rich, borrow from the Chinese, and spread the debt to the middle class.
Deregulation is what forced us into this mess. The Bush/McCain administration has let the fox guard the hen house. The banking industry happily gave money out to anyone - remember a few years back when they tightened up the bankruptcy laws. They'll still have their pound of flesh.
October 24, 2008
3:37 p.m.
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expatman writes:
Just a thought. How does being a junior officer in the cockpit of a fighter aircraft awaiting the orders of your commanders equate to "being tested" in a crisis the magnitude of the Cuban missle crisis? Was there some command decision responsibility here that I miss?
October 24, 2008
3:49 p.m.
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PonchoVia writes:
expatman, I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure that ex-fighter pilot will get the chance to go down in a ball of flames one more time on November 4.
October 24, 2008
3:56 p.m.
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joggle writes:
PonchoVia: "expatman, I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure that ex-fighter pilot will get the chance to go down in a ball of flames one more time on November 4."
LOL! Ouch! You should e-mail that joke to Bill Maher so he can use it in his routine tonight.
October 24, 2008
3:59 p.m.
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Beau writes:
If people vote for Obama, they're voting for a socialist. Socialist policies spreads nothing but misery and poverty. Just look at Chicago -- crime ridden streets, schools that don't educate kids, corrupt public officials, and more deaths this year than in Iraq.
Welcome to the USA, President Obama style. It's going to be a long four years if he wins.
October 24, 2008
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PonchoVia writes:
joggle, thanks. I hope I wasn't too harsh on the old guy.
October 24, 2008
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PonchoVia writes:
Sorry Beau, the way I see, the Republican administration of the past 8 years lied to the American people, created an economic disaster, got us mired in a Vietnam-like quagmire, and failed to capture OBL.
How does it go? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice.... errrrr, uhhh... you can't get fooled again!
I am not rewarding the Republican party with my vote.
October 24, 2008
4:16 p.m.
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Hola writes:
PonchoVia, took the words right out of my mouth. The disaster we are in now is after 8 years of Republicans running the administration. No thank you.
October 24, 2008
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arvada_mark writes:
All of the left leaning, spewed hatred aside, I see quite a bit of similarities between the two Johns. First of all, they are both great leaders of men. They are both athletes/warriors (you have to be a warrior to compete at the level Mr. Elway did), they are both intellectually superior than 95+% of all humans (including you & me, I guess), & they are both babe hounds. They are my kind of guys. They are true men's men. And whether or not I agree with either party's policy, I would follow both of these men into battle...they have earned their trustworthiness. Not so sure about the other guy.
Also, am I the only one who thinks Senator Biden needs to hold a press conference to clarify what exactly he meant when he said there would be an international incident within the next 6 months? Isn't he privy to the same info that W. is in regards to international terrorism & other threats? Does he know something that the American public should be made aware of? For being a long-time, professional polititian, he sure doesn't choose his words too carefully.
October 24, 2008
4:31 p.m.
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joggle writes:
arvada_mark: "Also, am I the only one who thinks Senator Biden needs to hold a press conference to clarify what exactly he meant when he said there would be an international incident within the next 6 months?"
He was basing his statement on history. Bush was tested just months after being elected as was Clinton. FYI, despite what you may like to believe, Al Qaeda has not been defeated yet.
October 24, 2008
4:34 p.m.
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ou8one2 writes:
"Hambone writes:
I wonder how much bigger Obama's rally on Sunday will be compared to McCain's. 100,000 in St. Louis the other day. "
They all heard barry was going to start redistributing the wealth that day, and their welfare checks had not shown up yet.
October 24, 2008
4:41 p.m.
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joggle writes:
Frontranger: To be fair, Joe Biden also graduated low in his class when getting his lower-level degree (not as low as McCain however). Unlike McCain, Biden did go on and acquire more education afterward.
I think the main reason McCain graduated so low in his class was because he was an arrogant jerk at the time as well as a trouble maker (his own autobiography doesn't exactly disagree with me on this point). He isn't an idiot, but putting him in the top 5% may be a little bit of a stretch too.
However, even if you grant McCain being in the top 5%, Obama would probably be in the top 0.5% of the population. If he makes it into the White House, he would certainly be among the most educated and intelligent presidents in American history.
October 24, 2008
4:43 p.m.
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arvada_mark writes:
And what year did you graduate from a service academy, or Stanford?
October 24, 2008
4:44 p.m.
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PonchoVia writes:
A prominent McCain campaign committee member defects. Check this out:
"Reagan Appointee and (Recent) McCain Adviser Charles Fried Supports Obama
Charles Fried, a professor at Harvard Law School, has long been one of the most important conservative thinkers in the United States. Under President Reagan, he served, with great distinction, as Solicitor General of the United States. Since then, he has been prominently associated with several Republican leaders and candidates, most recently John McCain, for whom he expressed his enthusiastic support in January.
This week, Fried announced that he has voted for Obama-Biden by absentee ballot. In his letter to Trevor Potter, the General Counsel to the McCain-Palin campaign, he asked that his name be removed from the several campaign-related committees on which he serves. In that letter, he said that chief among the reasons for his decision 'is the choice of Sarah Palin at a time of deep national crisis.'
Fried is exceptionally thoughtful and principled; his vote for Obama is especially noteworthy."
Source: http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_pl...
October 24, 2008
4:52 p.m.
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SanctuaryCity writes:
I heard that Plummer is throw the pass to Obama Sunday. Looks like a fumble to me.
October 24, 2008
4:55 p.m.
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arvada_mark writes:
It's not community college. You pretty much have to be in the top 5% to just be admitted to either school. And I never said anything bad about NObama, just that I'm not too sure I trust the guy enough to follow him blindly. Are you angry over something? Having a bad day? And where do you get that I said Al Queda is defeated? This is why you guys lost my vote 2 weeks before the last election. Too much nay saying. Too much whining, not enough doing.
October 24, 2008
5:09 p.m.
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PonchoVia writes:
McCain supporters, a top McCain campaign advisor votes for Obama and you have nothing to say? If McCain is such a good choice, why would his own advisor vote for Obama?
"Reagan Appointee and (Recent) McCain Adviser Charles Fried Supports Obama...
This week, Fried announced that he has voted for Obama-Biden by absentee ballot. In his letter to Trevor Potter, the General Counsel to the McCain-Palin campaign, he asked that his name be removed from the several campaign-related committees on which he serves. In that letter, he said that chief among the reasons for his decision 'is the choice of Sarah Palin at a time of deep national crisis.'"
Oooff, that's gotta hurt!
Vote Obama/Biden! Even top McCain campaign advisors are voting Obama!
October 24, 2008
5:14 p.m.
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SanctuaryCity writes:
Bill ayres is voting for Obama
October 24, 2008
5:22 p.m.
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jbowen43 writes:
When it comes to redistributing the wealth Sarah Palin is the queen of that style of governance. She put a massive windfall profit tax on oil companies and then spread the proceeds around Alaska.
McCain claims to have been tested. When was that? Was it when he was a legacy student at the Naval Academy where he partied all the time (like his buddy George W. Bush) and graduated at the bottom of his class or was it when he crashed all those planes before he went to war. Maybe it was when he ran away form the fire on the aircraft carrier while his fellow pilots stayed and fought the inferno that killed so many sailors when his plane burned up on the deck. Was it when he was praying with his jailer? I want a man who will think BEFORE he commits us into a war not some egomaniac who will just fly off the handle and lash out.
I want a president who will recognize trouble and plan for it and not have to be told several times that things are bad before he gets it. I want Obama for president, not McCain.
Boy does Elway have bad taste.
October 24, 2008
5:48 p.m.
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Ahab337 writes:
Elway, first you're marrying a former Raider cheerleader, now this. I still respect the guy, but when you make mistakes, you really go all out.
McCain will not bring changes to America. His plan to tax health care for the first time in U.S. History is totally wrong. He can't debate the issues facing the country because he knows he doesn't have a leg to stand on, so he resorts to attacks. And when he talks about having experience and being tested, his experience has been voting with Bush. Oh, and by the way, being a P.O.W., while admirable and deserving of honor and respect, does not qualify someone to be president. Not to mention Sarah Palin, the worst choice for VP, being only a heartbeat away from the Presidency.
Obama has so much support because people realize he represents real change in America, and has plans that will benefit this country and bring it out of its recession. I'm voting early, and I encourage others to do the same. Colorado goes BLUE this November.
Obama/Biden '08
October 24, 2008
6:01 p.m.
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JimmyTheSaint writes:
You've been tested. And failed.
This Republican's voting for Obama.
October 24, 2008
6:23 p.m.
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Reason writes:
"TheCaptain: "Why is it every time I hear a leftist comment about the campaign it is a personal, emotional shot at their target?"
I don't know, are you blind? I post here all the time. Go ahead and try to find one by me that is personal or emotion or is drivel. And I'm hardly the liberal poster here that could make the same claim."
joggle, you are an exception rather than the rule. The average poster on this board does not typically make arguments with valid points, regardless of political philosophy. Your average leftist poster is someone like jay(who I would guess will take that as a compliment), and your average rightist poster is someone like, well, I would have said KW awhile back, but he doesn't seem to come here anymore(which is somewhat understandable, hardly the level of worthwhile conversation that there used to be in the early days, RMN is almost Dailykos Colorado edition these days).
"However, even if you grant McCain being in the top 5%, Obama would probably be in the top 0.5% of the population. If he makes it into the White House, he would certainly be among the most educated and intelligent presidents in American history."
I'm not sure that I buy the argument that intelligence matters so much for a president. As I understand it, the average IQ of past presidents based on historical estimates is high 130s to low 140s, and this includes many of our worst presidents.
I will grant you that Obama has talent, it takes a very special kind of charisma to convey aristocratic arrogance through a television. We've had eight years of a President who thinks he knows more about how people should live better than they do can do to a country, I'll pass on another four.
October 24, 2008
6:28 p.m.
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Over_Nobama writes:
jbowen43, Alaska has been giving a share of its oil profits to its residence LONG before Palin was there and it is due to a surplus. It is the same as in Colorado under TABOR.
October 24, 2008
6:33 p.m.
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seeker writes:
So a form of socialism. Sharing the wealth of the land with the people.
October 24, 2008
6:44 p.m.
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Brunowolfe writes:
McCain continually trots out the "My friends, I've been tested, and I've got the scars to prove it" crap. Look, I'm glad he served our country in the military, and I'm greatful for his service. But for him to simply point to the fact he was held captive in a hole for some years as being that he's going to be a better president and more ready for a military issue, is simply baulderdash.
If how he's run his campaign is an indication of how he'll run the country, then he'll be a disjointed frenetic failure.
If how he choose Palin or Joe the Plumber is any indication how he will choose key cabinet positions, then he won't vett properly or grandstand (haven't we had enough of a president who chooses people like that.....think: "Brownie").
If how he kept his promise about running a non-negative campaign is any indication of how he'll keep his promises, then he'll just do what's prudent for his administration when times go against him.
Aside from how you may feel about his policies, take a look at how he's conducted this campaign. You want that kind of "leadership" steering this boat?....I didn't think so.....
October 24, 2008
6:47 p.m.
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Cawren writes:
The Ridiculous Sarah Palin / SARAH SIXPACK AS PRESIDENT
A Vice President or President that winks and says GOLLY?
Ms. Palin was a parlor trick in response to Mr. Obamas flashy Democratic Convention. The problem is that a trick, is just that.
It is a fact that Colorado is turning BLUE. Of course there areas like Colorado Springs that could be renamed "FOCUS ON THE FAMILY CITY" or perhaps "DOBSONVILLE". This pocket of voters would vote for a stump if there were some religious agenda tacked to it.
I am terrified at the prospect of this less than open, inexperienced, undereducated woman might be the President of the United States.
Ms. Palin has close ties to the some pretty interesting people in Wasilla.
Google: Steve Stoll and Palin.
Extreme? Anti-American? You must judge for yourself.
PLEASE do your own research.
October 24, 2008
10:52 p.m.
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patronusa writes:
i love the new buzz word. socialism. SHOW ME THE MONEY!
if it's as bad as the republican knuckleheads say it is, then ,
SHOW ME THE MONEY! I want my slice of the apple pie. if it's good enough for canada and sweden and denmark, then
SHOW ME THE MONEY!
cause i haven't seen sh*t over the past 8 years.
tis the season...
Jesus is a socialist and this is a CHRISTian nation...
October 24, 2008
11:06 p.m.
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patronusa writes:
No, you're wrong McCain. "I'm worried about the people who keep supporting you and your Bush policies". Unless every single McCain supporter is like Elway (millionaires) then we've got a problem.
Ignorance is our greatest obstacle to greatness.
Obama/Biden 08
October 25, 2008
7:06 a.m.
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FrictionSoul writes:
It's really weird how the McCain supporters can't be bothered to read Obama's plan. Instead they prefer to believe the lies that McCain repeats everyday.
See, you couldn't even read past the word "lies" because you just don't want to believe it could be true that McCain lies - and that he has to lie in order to deceive you from your vote.
How come his website offers up a very vague "plan" but out on the campaign trail his sole focus is about attacking Obama?
Click on McCain's website's Economic Plan and it says he has a comprehensive plan, but reading through every page it's all about John this John that - it's just nothing more than comprehensive vagueness.
Take the Immediate Relief for American Families for example. It says "John McCain believes we should send a strong message to world markets. Under his plan, the United States will be telling oil producing countries and oil speculators that our dependence on foreign oil will come to an end - and the impact will be lower prices at the pump. "
Nowhere on his website will one find exactly what that plan is. He doesn't have one. He's just winging it, or I should be more accurate: his campaign manager and aides are just making it up as they go along.
So all of you McCain supporters need to own up to the fact that you support McCain just because you believe his repeated lies. It's really easy to believe the lies because they're based on tapping into your social and culture perspectives and religious beliefs. It's much easier for John McCain to attack Obama to win your support than it is to do it the old-fashioned way: develop an actual plan.
John McCain is counting on you to realize that he offers no plan, just glib vagueness. His entire website is vague. Just check out McCain's issue's page and read it for yourself: he has no plan; he just makes it look like he does.
October 25, 2008
7:15 a.m.
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rumplstilskin writes:
Elways new squeeze is HOT, but I'm still voting for Obama!!
October 25, 2008
10:57 a.m.
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Admiral108 writes:
Straight rednecks I'll bust'em in their chops