Obama to be in Denver on Sunday

McCain, Clinton will campaign in state Friday

By Sara Burnett, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)

Published October 22, 2008 at 12:21 p.m.
Updated October 23, 2008 at 6:37 a.m.

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Flanked by secret service agents, Democratic Presidential candidate Bill Clinton sings the Pledge of Allegiance in the doorway to the Greek Theatre in Civic Center Park before going onstage for his noontime Rally ,Sept. 17, 1992.

Thousands from throughout the Denver area showed up to hear Democratic presidential candidate Bill Clinton address a rally at the Greek Theatre at Civic Center in Denver, Thursday, Sept. 17, 1992.

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October 22, 2008

12:27 p.m.

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LingLingfor_prez writes:

I am not a member of GOP, but if I want to be critical of your tax plan, I expect not to be brushed aside as well.
October 22, 2008

12:36 p.m.

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taoistblockhead writes:

Al-Qaida-linked Web site backs McCain as president

By Pamela Hess, AP

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iF...

WASHINGTON (AP) - Al-Qaida supporters suggested in a Web site message this week they would welcome a pre-election terror attack on the U.S. as a way to usher in a McCain presidency.

The message, posted Monday on the password-protected al-Hesbah Web site, said if al-Qaida wants to exhaust the United States militarily and economically, "impetuous" Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain is the better choice because he is more likely to continue the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"This requires presence of an impetuous American leader such as McCain, who pledged to continue the war till the last American soldier," the message said. "Then, al-Qaida will have to support McCain in the coming elections so that he continues the failing march of his predecessor, Bush."

SITE Intelligence Group, based in Bethesda, Md., monitors the Web site and translated the message.

"If al-Qaida carries out a big operation against American interests," the message said, "this act will be support of McCain because it will push the Americans deliberately to vote for McCain so that he takes revenge for them against al-Qaida. Al-Qaida then will succeed in exhausting America till its last year in it."

Mark Salter, a senior McCain adviser, said he had heard about the Web site chatter but had no immediate comment.
October 22, 2008

12:56 p.m.

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dilligaf writes:

LingLingfor
First of all Obama has explained his plan to the voters over & over. And they are the ones that need to know and understand it. Who the h--l cares what the GOP thinks of it. The GOP is just trying to lure him into a fight. They are desperate. They are loosing. So they need to see if they can lure people like you in so you get mad and vote for McCain. Well it's not working.
October 22, 2008

12:57 p.m.

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danirobi writes:

Spread the wealth, redistribution of wealth, sounds like socialism to me. Oh yeah and that whole 95% would receive a tax cut when 1/3 of the group doesn't even pay taxes???
October 22, 2008

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October 22, 2008

1:10 p.m.

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Willy writes:

The taxes we need to worry about are the ones Pelosi, Reid and the looney dentist have planned for our retirement savings and pension plans.
October 22, 2008

1:12 p.m.

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JluvDC writes:

I'm tired of hearing that 1/3 of the population doesn't pay taxes. They might not pay income taxes, but they pay into social security/medicare (if they work) and pay taxes on everything they buy (whether they work or not). Just because its not direct, doesn't mean they don't pay.
October 22, 2008

1:18 p.m.

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sunshinestate writes:

The GOP has painted itself in to a corner through it's own double speak.......
The current NRA monthly publication just out is a hoot.....a focus on Sarah,after all,the NRA trashed McCain in 2001 for being an "enemy of the Second Amendment".
How about "Joe the Hunter"?.............have Sarah come on out ovet to Roan way and do some explaining,take some feedback.
The current Field & Stream issue features seperate Mccain and Obama interviews....Obama wins that one too.
October 22, 2008

1:35 p.m.

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Michael writes:

I want Obama, Pelosi, and Reid to explain to me how you can give anyone a "tax break/refund/rebate" when they PAY NO INCOME TAXES now! Sales tax, payroll tax, medicare/medicaid and SS taxes do not count as we are talking about INCOME TAX and who makes more money. The word "tax credit" is a manufactured word from the liberal economic playbook that simply means "welfare handout", "income redistribution", or "transfer payment". Obama and the left view taxation and tax policy as a way to do social engineering and "making things fair" in their twisted view of the world. Life is inherently UNFAIR and pretending that you can make it less so by taking from those who make more and giving it to those who make less (or nothing) is an illusion and all smoke & mirrors.
Taxes and tax policy are a way for our govt to raise the money needed to fund the military, build roads, fund govt agencies, and do the things that the govt does. Providing a safety net to the elderly, the sick, and the very poor are included in those jobs. Taxes are NOT meant to "make life fair" or "spread wealth". Those tenets are at the root of socialism and communism, so when Obama is accused of that it is a correct accusation based on his own words and the true meanings of those systems.
October 22, 2008

1:52 p.m.

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Candice writes:

YES!!! I will be attending yet another historic gathering by our next president Barack Obama! He is The ONE who is going to bring real CHANGE to America!
JluvDC is right when its said that: I'm tired of hearing that 1/3 of the population doesn't pay taxes. They might not pay income taxes, but they pay into social security/medicare (if they work) and pay taxes on everything they buy (whether they work or not). Just because its not direct, doesn't mean they don't pay.

Everyone pays taxes! People need to open up their eyes and clean their ears because Obama and Biden have what it takes to UNITE AMERICA and help the people who have been struggling with healthcare, mortgages, educating thier children, finding jobs, women having the right to chose, giving basic rights to our gay and lesbian friends, equal pay for women ect...

John McCain and Sarah Palin are just going to continue the downward spiral that Bush got the American people in to begin with. I'm sorry but I myself cannot handle 8 more years to Pain, Stupidity, and Ignorance!

I want to see the American Dream realized once again and that is why most precious vote goes to OBAMA/BIDEN!
October 22, 2008

1:52 p.m.

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Douglasdoesit writes:

MAY THE BEST MEN WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 22, 2008

2:27 p.m.

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dilligaf writes:

Michael
Sorry dude but this same old rhetoric is running out of steam. But here is what you do. When McCain and Barbie loose move to Alaska and when Barbie and Ken secede from the US you can live in her own little world and live happily ever after. And if we can get all the cons that think this women is the best thing since sliced bread to do the same thing we can get get this country back where it should be. November 5th 2008 Barack Obama President of the United States of America!

DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 22, 2008

2:39 p.m.

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riverrafter writes:

Captain, go find Tenelle. You are the loony one. My husband and I pay more in taxes than I make in a year.
October 22, 2008

2:42 p.m.

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Michael writes:

dilligaf - Here is what you, and candice, and every other liberal, left leaning American can do; keep hoping and waiting for the federal government to make you happy, give you a life and an education and a job and a house and money and healthcare, take from others what they have earned and give it to you, provide for you from cradle to grave and you will continue to be disappointed and you will never get enough, never get what you can get quicker and better and more of for yourself, and you will never be happy no matter how much is given to you that was taken from someone else - because government creates NO WEALTH. They can only give that which they take from someone else and when you take too much from those that have more, they stop creating wealth and move elsewhere. Look to California as a model on this. They are BILLIONS in the hole because of just such an equation.
Deal with that because history proves it all to be true and as you probably have never studied much of that in your life maybe this is all new to you.
October 22, 2008

3:01 p.m.

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Michael writes:

Follow Up - I was imcomplete on my economic model citing California; Any government can continue to payout money for education, roads, healthcare, "tax credits", etc. and every other demand placed on it by the citizens who keep voting for politicians who promise even more even after the money runs out and the revenue sources (many) have all left town due to taxes being too high and regulations being too restrictive to run a business and make a profit. What they do is run HUGE deficits, sell bonds (debt instruments), and pass all the debt along to future generations. Sound familiar??
This happens because no one is willing to CUT SPENDING and live within their means - both citizens and government alike. Wait until our government can no longer function at the state or federal level because no one will loan them money (happening in CA right now) and even the most needed services will be cut or slashed to the bone. I can hear the screams and howls from the left already.
October 22, 2008

3:03 p.m.

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Sal writes:

Michael, you have a basic misconception about the government. The government isn't a "them". In America, the government is all of us. We can choose to govern how we see fit. I pay taxes, too, and plenty of them. But I'm tired of my taxes going to pay subsidies for companies (like exxon, etc) who don't want to help out the American people at a time when we're hurting most. I'm tired of paying for a 500 pound bomb used to root out an insurgent in a country that had no insurgents before we invaded them in the first place. If I am going to pay taxes, I want to get a return on my investment. I think we should expect something better than what we've been given by Bush.

A chain is only as strong as its weakest link, and our society is only as well off as its poorest citizens. That starts in two basic places. Education and health care. As the good book says, we ARE our brothers' keepers. I don't think a family should have to go bankrupt because one of their children gets leukemia. Uncovered medical ailments are the number one cause of bankrupcy in the country, and that seems wrong. I don't think a student with debt strapped parents should have to give up the dream of going to college because he can't afford it. If we strengthen the people of this country, we will be better off.

That doesn't mean hand-outs. No one is in favor of helping those who won't help themselves. Reagan and Bush 1 promised to reform welfare, but it was Clinton who made "welfare to work" a reality. Similarly, Obama is promising college grants to students who donate not just military service, but civil service (peace corps, etc) as well. In addition, he wants to improve the current G.I. bill so that if you want to serve in the military, the least we can do is give you a free college education.
October 22, 2008

3:07 p.m.

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djbrav writes:

Michael - the governor of California is a 'pulican.

Shaggy - why don't you be patriotic, pay higher taxes to support the Bush you put into office who increased spending AND the national debt. You are as much on welfare as the person who receives food-stamps. You support the fiscal policy of your fearless leader but you don't want to pay for their increased spending and budget in the form of taxes. So doesn't that mean that you are getting the services you voted for free of charge? Actually it's not free - the next generation is paying that tab FOR YOU! Its just a different form of the socialism you continue to insist Obama is leader of, only you want to spread the wealth of future generations - as long as YOU don't get hit up to pay for it.

Obama - two more weeks!
October 22, 2008

3:31 p.m.

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PonchoVia writes:

djbrav, thanks for your brilliant comment!

Obama/Biden '08
October 22, 2008

3:32 p.m.

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LeLo writes:

Thank you, JMac.

Like JMac, Michael, I have worked hard for the good life I have. I did not/do not wait for the govt to make me happy. I worked for my education, my career, my house, my healthcare. The govt took nothing away from you, Michael, or anyone else to provide for me and mine. I bust my butt everyday to provide for my family. And, like JMac, I do so in a very nice fashion, thank you very much. Not a 1%er, but well beyond the 10% threshold, thank you very much. My wife stays home to take care of the kids because we don't need her income, thank you very much.

And I understand, Michael, how badly Bush and the other Republican leaders have screwed this country up.

So keep screaming your head off about socialism and income redistribution and Bill Ayers. It is all immaterial. Obama is going to win this election. That much is clear. And you can keep getting madder and madder and madder if you would like. You're guy still loses, Michael.

So why don't you go ahead and start practicing. Go ahead, say it with me know. President Barack Hussein Obama. President Barack Hussein Obama. It has a nice ring to it, doesn't it? You should go ahead and get used to it, Michael, because you will be living it for years to come. The fat lady is warming up, and your ranting isn't going to change anything.
October 22, 2008

3:36 p.m.

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LeLo writes:

And yes, Poncho, I know, don't stop now, don't stop working for the victory. We will push through Nov. 4. And on Nov. 5, I can't wait to visit this forum and hear what Michael and his friends have to say.

Actually, that's not true. They won't have anything constructive to say then, either. So maybe I'll just come to the forum on Nov. 5 to gloat a little.
October 22, 2008

3:38 p.m.

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rickg19611 writes:

The funniest line on the planet..... an Obama supporter whining about "increased spending AND the national debt"

Of course, the fools fail to realize that Obama even admits that he will INCREASE spending and INCREASE the national debt!!!

Obama has promised that his tax increases will be given away to those who don't pay taxes. He calls it "spreading the wealth".

Of course, his idiot supporters are left stammering and stuttering when an average American (aka a plumber) asks them how Obama will be able to afford his other INCREASED SPENDING PLANS.... like nationalized health care. And head start. And tax cuts targeting special interest groups. And all the other schemes he's promised.

Simple. Obama will pay for his INCREASED SPENDING through INCREASED DEBT. He can't do it otherwise, since he promised to give out the funds from his tax increases to pay for tax "cuts" (aka handouts) to those who don't pay taxes!!

And so if Obama fools enough people into voting for his con-artist plan, the Obama dweebs will be back on here a year from now saying that INCREASED SPENDING and INCREASED DEBT is a good thing.
October 22, 2008

3:38 p.m.

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Sal writes:

To the libs out here dancing on people's graves:

Stop. It doesn't help anything. If Obama is elected President, he will need the support of everyone.

When Bush won the last two elections, many smug/sarcastic Republicans said "Love it or leave it, man!" to those of us who didn't vote for Bush. That attitude created the most divisive eight years in the history of American politics. That attitude hurt all of us.

As tempting as it is to do the exact same thing, I would encourage restraint - regardless of who is elected. Even though we have different ideas about how to move our country forward, we aren't going to move it anywhere unless everyone gets on board. The last eight years have taught us that much.
October 22, 2008

3:44 p.m.

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amaikovich writes:

Obama back in Denver. Could we possibly beat the 100,000 in St. Louis?

He gave one inspired nomination speech, so this is really something for Colorado.
October 22, 2008

3:44 p.m.

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Johnny_LaRue writes:

Captain, I think you are confusing a few terms, which is confusing a few people. You keep saying tax return when I think you mean tax refund. You get a tax refund after you file your tax return - if you paid more through your payroll deductions or pre-payments than the tax liability you owe. You still pay taxes - you just paid too much and get some back. You owe more taxes if you did not already contribute enough through payroll deducions or prepayments based on your tax liability.

Also, I believe riverrafter is saying she and her husbands income total is such that her income alone doesn't cover the tax liability from their total combined income.
October 22, 2008

3:48 p.m.

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60s4ever writes:

Just how bad does it have to get before the repubs take their blinders off?
October 22, 2008

3:55 p.m.

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glycerine831 writes:

Well said LeLo!

I will be in here to gloat with you in just 2 weeks.

OBAMA/BIDEN
October 22, 2008

3:57 p.m.

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FCZ writes:

Obama was adopted by an Indonesian and had to have Indonesian citizenship himself to attend his school in Indonesia.

It is alleged that Obama could not, according to Indonesia at that time, have dual citizenship.

It is also alleged that there is no record of Obama’s being naturalized as an American citizen.

It is also alleged that he traveled to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport.

The primary allegation is that he was actually born in Kenya.

Somebody has to sort this out.
October 22, 2008

4:05 p.m.

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jefferson3 writes:

FCZ: Go to snopes.com and 'sort it out' for yourself. Sheesh.
October 22, 2008

4:07 p.m.

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Douglasdoesit writes:

To all Obama Supporters:

There is no need to argue and fight with non-believers...as long as we are supportive of our President then there is no need to go back and forth. We are acting like McCain in the last Presidential Debate...Let's not go there! "The Proof is in the Pudding" watch and see!
Let's hope for the BEST! OBAMA BABY!!!!!!
October 22, 2008

4:08 p.m.

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PonchoVia writes:

JMac and other Obama supporters, I think it is more correct to refer to the opponents as McCain supporters, rather than Republicans, because nowadays more and more Republicans are supporting Obama, in light of the past 8 disastrous years, McCain's complete inability to distinguish himself from Bush, McCain's serious lack of judgment in choosing Palin, and McCain's erratic, negative, dishonest, and terribly run campaign.

Vote Obama/Biden '08
October 22, 2008

4:35 p.m.

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Nobama writes:

BARACK OBAMA

Who IS he, really?

Where and how did he spend his youth?
What do we know about his activities during his college years?
What is a community organizer?
What is the reputation of Chicago politics?
Who have his associates been?
Who was his “spiritual mentor”?
What were the fiscal, health, education and crime conditions in Chicago and Illinois during his tenure as State Senator?
What has he accomplished as a Senator after almost 3 years in office?

But, he is good looking, intelligent, and gives a great speech! That’s all that matters?
October 22, 2008

4:37 p.m.

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Sal writes:

Michael, if you're worried about a balanced budget, look no further than the Democratic Party.

***Reagan promised to balance the budget, but didn't do it.
***Bush 1 promised to balance the budget, but didn't do it.
***Clinton DIDN'T promise to balance the budget, but he did it, and he threatened to shut down the government if congress didn't go along with the balanced budget he proposed.
***George W. Bush promised to spend Clinton's budget surplus wisely and instead gave us the largest budget deficit in history.

Now, we get to the present.

***McCain promised to balance the budget.... Sound familiar?

If you need someone to balance the budget for you, elect a Democrat. I know a lot of Republicans who are supporting Obama this year for a simple reason: They are conservatives who have watched their party fail to "conserve" much of anything in the last eight years. Time to try out the party with a proven track record for fiscal responsibility.
October 22, 2008

4:37 p.m.

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Candice writes:

Well said JMac on Joe the Plumber. He is unlicensed in Ohio and was never told he was going to be able to buy into or purchase the company he is working for. Even if he were to buy the company under Obama's plan he would still save money on the healthcare for his employees because Obama would cut his taxes on healthcare being a small business because he wants to give American's the opportunity to flourish. Under Bush's command we are getting less in healthcare and paying more. I personally am not a Joe the Plumber I make an honest living and follow the rules of my trade to the fullest extent. I am not a Republican crook, cheater, lyiar, whiner trying to rob the lives of HONEST HARD WORKING AMERICANS

GiovanniJones writes think I'll load up the car with the wife and kids and come downtown and show them what a bunch of hypnotized zombies and mesmerized groupies look like as the worship at the altar of their fake messiah. "Save us oh great and all powerful one". I think you really should do that. Show your wonderful children what an inspiration Barack Obama is to the nation and how he is the change we need and hope for. You republicans are all the same. You bring religion into everything. Again open up your eyes and see that people do not worship Barack like you say he is such an inspiration and a courageous man people come to see him because he is going to do what Bush failed to do in his joke of a term as president or should I say eight year Vacation at the expense of the American People.
I support Barack because he is going to CHANGE and Unite America. I agree and so do many other hard working wealthy democrats, republicans, independents that are gonig to vote for Obama that it is ok to pay a little more on taxes to help rebuild America and bring it back to the Beautiful country it once was.
Again Republicans need to open their eyes life is not all about money like you think it is. Its about helping out yor fellow Americans and your children. Any president will bring some sort if defecit to the economy it is a given, however if you properly research under Obama's presidency there will be less of a defecit that Mc "I need a" Cain !

OBAMA/BIDEN '08
October 22, 2008

4:40 p.m.

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Nobama writes:

PonchoVia writes:

"nowadays more and more Republicans are supporting Obama, in light of the past 8 disastrous years, McCain's complete inability to distinguish himself from Bush, McCain's serious lack of judgment in choosing Palin, and McCain's erratic, negative, dishonest, and terribly run campaign"

There you go, spreading that urban myth again. I thought I already shot down your theory. Almost every day we see the anti-Bush rant about “the last 8 years under Bush have been a disaster”. The Liberals must think the whole country hates Bush, just like they do. I’d like to apply some deductive reasoning and debunk their theory. Less than 4 years ago more than 64 million Americans voted to re-elect Bush. So, we could logically assume that these voters did not believe Bush was a “disaster” at that point in time, even after 9/11 and the Iraq War. Now, if you accept the current poll numbers, about 30% of Americans still “approve” of the job Bush is doing. Does that mean the remaining 70% agree with the Liberal premise? Well, I am in that 70% portion, but not for the same reasons as the Liberal hate mongers. I disapprove of Bush because he let his Conservative base down. He allowed a congress, controlled by Republicans, to spend without constraint. He appeased Democrats with education and new entitlement bills. He sponsored amnesty for illegal immigrants and he did not aggressively prosecute the war in Iraq. So, you have to logically assume that there is at least some component within the 70% disapproval factor who are like-minded Conservatives. Are we disappointed in Bush? Yes. Do we regret voting for him versus Kerry? No. Would we ever vote for Obama, a Socialist, instead of McCain. No. Now all you Liberals have to do is worry about whether that component is more than 20 %. We shall see.
October 22, 2008

4:46 p.m.

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kris writes:

Can we limit nobama's word count on the message boards? It's just noise and takes up too much space.
October 22, 2008

4:57 p.m.

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PonchoVia writes:

LOL, I agree with kris's suggestion.

nobama, please tell your tale of wonderful times to all the people who lost their jobs and homes this week. Explain to them why we're spending $10billion/month in Iraq while their wondering how to put food on the table... if they have a table. Explain to them why we haven't caught OBL. Explain to them why the economy is teetering on the brink of disaster while bank CEOs walk away with tens of millions of dollars. Explain to them why the debt is the biggest it's been in history. Explain to them why Bush/McCain have been giving out corporate welfare like it's a big happy party. Explain to them why McCain has lobbyists running his campaign, and he's been doing the same-old, same-old in DC for 26 years, and yet he'll allegedly change his ways over night. It's Bush/McCain economics! And McCain offers nothing different!

Vote Obama/Biden '08!
October 22, 2008

5:18 p.m.

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seeker writes:

Part of the reason 40% of Americans are paying no taxes is because they are earning so little money they don’t need to file. Some of these people are paying taxes but are not filing for their returns. See the link below and part of the article that explains Fred Thompson’s remarks on the 40% figure and the explanation. Read the entire article on Thompson's remarks.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-met...

"There's a small caveat to the 40 percent number — it includes nonfilers, typically taxpayers who don't have to file returns because their incomes are too low. It's logical to assume that most nonfilers don't pay income taxes, but it's possible that some did if they had income taxes withheld by an employer. This is probably a very small number, because people with low incomes have an economic incentive to file a return and get a refund.
The U.S. income tax system is progressive, which means that rates increase as income increases. Given that structure, it makes sense that people with higher incomes pay more taxes, and people with low incomes might pay no tax at all. Thompson's numbers are on the money, and we rate them True."

If these individuals had decent jobs their earnings would go up and they would pay more taxes. More jobs are always created by a Democratic administration. The economy also does better. Wall Street, the Stock Market, the very rich, the Republicans, the middle class and the very poor all do better under a Democratic administration.
October 22, 2008

5:33 p.m.

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NeilT writes:

PonchoVia writes: "Explain to them why we haven't caught OBL"

That's easy. We haven't elected McCain yet. As soon as he is elected, he will get OBL. He knows how to do it. He has known all this time, but has not shared this information.

You've been harboring a terrorist, Senator!
October 22, 2008

5:59 p.m.

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Speak writes:

"I will be in here to gloat with you in just 2 weeks".

Not sure gloat is what you're looking to do (put down the NOBama Koolaid)

Practice........ "We Wuz Robbed".
October 22, 2008

6:45 p.m.

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PonchoVia writes:

Speak, I love the Obama Koolaid. So do the great majority of Americans!

Vote Obama/Biden '08.
October 22, 2008

7:25 p.m.

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Reason writes:

"So do the great majority of Americans!"

You must be spiking your koolaid if you think that Obama is gonna pull off a Washington or a Roosevelt or a Nixon.
October 22, 2008

7:53 p.m.

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WHATRIGHTS writes:

kris has so much intelligent input....please enlighten us more with your great wisdom and knowledge, really can't wait......yeah right! If you don't want to read NOBama's comments then don't, but please have some respect for the CONSTITUTION! At least NOBama has some facts and informational basis for what they are saying....no need to be so rude!
October 22, 2008

8:06 p.m.

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Uno writes:

2 more weeks and millions of people will be very disappointed.
Hopefully Obama will join the Gore/Kerry sore losers club.

Go ahead and celebrate the victory today Obamamaniacs, November maybe pretty sad for you;

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/10/...

http://www.ajc.com/services/content/s...
October 22, 2008

8:11 p.m.

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Kukulcan writes:

GO BARACK GO!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmUUYo...

YES WE CAN!
October 22, 2008

8:33 p.m.

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Kukulcan writes:

@ Uno

The only way the GOP scoundrels will win is if they rig the DIEBOLD voting machines--again!

This HBO special on how DIEBOLD voting machines were rigged--allowing Bush to "win" Ohio in 2004 and hence the U.S. Presidency--is now available on google video for free!

Hacking Democracy

http://video.google.com/videoplay?doc...
October 22, 2008

8:48 p.m.

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Speak writes:

"We Wuz Robbed"

"wat-u tak-in bout willis"

"We Wuz Robbed"

NOBama "didn't see that com-in"

Nah-man-------- "We Wuz Robbed"
October 22, 2008

8:58 p.m.

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Reason writes:

"The only way the GOP scoundrels will win is if they rig the DIEBOLD voting machines--again!

This HBO special on how DIEBOLD voting machines were rigged--allowing Bush to "win" Ohio in 2004 and hence the U.S. Presidency--is now available on google video for free!"

Wow, people still spew the rigged ballots story? And then probably think Obama is the first clean politician in the last 100 years of Chicago politics?

Oddly enough, in the news today, the AP poll found it's a one point race. You Obama supporters better get back on the volunteer trail, lest the Messiah squander what was once a double digit lead.
October 22, 2008

9:50 p.m.

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Norseman writes:

Reason writes: "the AP poll found it's a one point race".
Go ahead and live in your make believe world for the next two weeks. Anyone can cherry pick a poll to make their point. Check out RealClearPolitics, and see if you can come back with the same hallucination that McCain will win.

Poll Results Spread
FOX News Obama 49, McCain 40 Obama +9
Rasmussen Reports Obama 51, McCain 45 Obama +6
Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Obama 52, McCain 42 Obama +10
Gallup (Traditional)* Obama 50, McCain 45 Obama +5
Gallup (Expanded)* Obama 52, McCain 44 Obama +8
Hotline/FD Obama 47, McCain 42 Obama +5
ABC News/Wash Post Obama 54, McCain 43 Obama +11
IBD/TIPP Obama 46, McCain 42 Obama +4
Associated Press/GfK Obama 44, McCain 43 Obama +1
GWU/Battleground Obama 49, McCain 47 Obama +2
F&M/Hearst-Argyle Obama 50, McCain 45 Obama +5
October 22, 2008

10:26 p.m.

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chiy writes:

Reason:

The rigged "ballots" story is really the rigged machine story. And it's still spewed because it's still true. It's didn't become less true over time, or because you ignored it.

We on the left are also still spewing the voter suppression story. It was true when Katherine Harris tossed thousands of innocent Floridians off the voter roles and it is true when the head of one of McCain's voter registration contractors was just arrested.
October 22, 2008

10:34 p.m.

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coloradovet writes:

Do we want a VP who can't even give a third grader a straight answer on what her job is?

Pretty sad when that third grader's parents have to re-explain to him what the VP does.

Another "gotcha" moment for Caribou Barbie
October 23, 2008

6:33 a.m.

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Mainer1776 writes:

Yah! Soon we'll have our first Marxist President with a nit-wit with more than a few loose screws as VP! I have no idea what voters are thinking.
October 23, 2008

6:49 a.m.

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dilligaf writes:

Mainer1776 writes: " I have no idea what voters are thinking."

I ask that same question the last two election. As far as all the gloom & doom predictions you cons are coming up with. I read the same cr-p in 1992. And guess what? We had the most prosperous 8 years we ever had. No one lost their guns. We had a welfare reform bill passed which took thousands off welfare and put them in tax paying job. But whats sad is because of the last 8 years they have lost those jobs and sent them back on welfare. So that is what voters are thinking.
October 23, 2008

6:49 a.m.

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thincaboutit writes:

WARNING: Disturbing images of John McCain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8ceYt...

See more at http://parodyandson.blogspot.com
October 23, 2008

7 a.m.

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coloradovet writes:

Michael, you want to talk about tax fairness? Read the link below. And don't try to draw such a fine line between social security/medicare taxes. You know as well as I do that the government loots those sources of income to give the rich their tax breaks and pay 11 billion a month in Iraq. Plus, the wealthy STOP paying social security most of the year, so they already get an unfair tax break.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27328293
October 23, 2008

7:14 a.m.

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riverrafter writes:

Captain, yes, my husband's and my combined income has us paying taxes that equal more than what I make in a year. My son, however, gets a refund- he pays the most allowable so once a year he gets a check to do some work around his house- a little savings account, so to say. But the refund is only a fraction of what he pays. I'd love to see ANYTHING, ANYWHERE to support your claim. Oh, and my mom doesn't pay taxes- but then again, she lives off her Social Security and has no income. So tell me, how much taxes do you pay from the looney bin?
October 23, 2008

7:27 a.m.

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Reason writes:

"Reason writes: "the AP poll found it's a one point race".
Go ahead and live in your make believe world for the next two weeks. Anyone can cherry pick a poll to make their point. Check out RealClearPolitics, and see if you can come back with the same hallucination that McCain will win."

Yeah, those numbers really reinforce my belief in the validity of political polls. This just in- Dewey wins!

"The rigged "ballots" story is really the rigged machine story. And it's still spewed because it's still true. It's didn't become less true over time, or because you ignored it."

I'll bet you have a very credible Kossack reference to prove that too, huh? Go back to your fanboyism and empowerment.
October 23, 2008

7:32 a.m.

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Speak writes:

"Obama to be in Denver on Sunday"
We all duck and cover the wealth on Friday

"Do we want a VP who can't even give a third grader a straight answer on what her job is"?

No we want NOBama running on lies to become president

No we want VP Biden who can’t find his way around his
Foot mouth disease

You...betcha!
October 23, 2008

7:39 a.m.

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spencerr writes:

dilligaf,

I think you are making a mistake by comparing Obama to Bill Clinton.

Bill Clinton started out much more centrist than Obama, and he was a very practical (or pragmatic) leader. He often led and managed based on what the polls said the American people thought he should do. He wanted to stay president for eight years. In a lot of issues, Clinton was not that far left of McCain.

Obama is as left as they get, and he and/or his people have an agenda (I say he and/or his people because I suspect someone is pulling his strings...but that may not be the case). They are like a pack of ravenous dogs about to be let out of the pen. They don't care about "four more years"...not yet anyway. Bill Clinton was thinking about four more years before he had even started the first four years.

Also consider that Republicans stole the house and senate two years after he was elected, so they didn't have much time to work with. I doubt that will happen this time around.

The sky may not be falling, but conservatives have reason to be scared of Obama.
October 23, 2008

7:42 a.m.

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radagan writes:

It is certainly NOT clear Obama will win this election. The press is trying to make it that way but it is not. McCain definitely can win this. Most of the polls are bs because most of the people their polling won't vote.
Here is a comprehensive AP poll released last night that shows a 1 point difference among very likely voters.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081023/a...
October 23, 2008

7:50 a.m.

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PonchoVia writes:

radagan, a single poll does not reflect reality. Reality is better reflected by a "poll of polls", like the ones shown in the websites below:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics...
http://www.pollster.com/
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/

Despite Obama's clear lead in the average of all polls, in the next two weeks I will be joining many other Obama volunteers to get out the vote to ensure the better candidate wins.

Vote Obama/Biden '08
October 23, 2008

7:53 a.m.

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spencerr writes:

Did you know that shortly before the election in 1980, Reagan had a five point disadvantage in the polls, and he managed to win easily come election time?

I don't think McCain will win, but it will be closer than those polls show.
October 23, 2008

8:10 a.m.

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speakthetruth writes:

It will be a blow-out for Obama. Not all polls are counting cell phones of younger voters who are mostly for Obama. It's going to be over when the East coast results come in and we win Florida, Virgina and PA.

Obama/Biden '08!!!!
October 23, 2008

8:32 a.m.

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GunnyBob writes:

25 years ago today, Hezbollah, owned and operated by Iran, destroyed the Marine BLT-MAU barracks in Beirut with a 12,000-pound VBIED, killing 241.

Yesterday, Iranian Speaker of the Parliament Larijani, at a presser in Bahrain, announced the Iranian terrorist regime is endorsing Obama.

And today, the RMN forgot to run a single story about the disaster's anniversary or the Iranian endorsement. What a surprise. But they have the space and reporters available to write about apple colors, the ski season, Star Trek, a gorilla, etc.

Outstanding job, Mr. Temple.
October 23, 2008

8:48 a.m.

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boogman writes:

JMac - you are just the guy that Obama wants to pay a little more in taxes as your patriotic duty. It sounds to me that if you are telling the truth and paying that much in taxes - you need to find a different accountant who knows what the legitimate deductions are. Look at the records - Obama took all those legit deductions.

By the way - the 1% pay a huge portion of the national taxes and they don't get money back from the govt. They keep it by claiming legit deductions. If it weren't for those 1%ers you would be paying a lot more in. Why don't we go to a flat tax or a consumption based tax. That way everyone pays based on what they use. A flat tax of 20% would create a huge surplus. The bottom 40% would actually have to pay instead of getting hand outs.
October 23, 2008

8:55 a.m.

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EXrepublican writes:

GunnyBob, you neglected to mention AlQueda's endorsement of John McCain for president...
As a john McSame as bush does for their war against us better than they can themselves.
they even sugessted another attack upon America to ensure a McCain victory.
Staying in Iraq for another hundred years, stifling our economy, wearing down our military. all related to, and helping AlQuedas mission to destroy America.

For Americas sake.... vote Obama/Biden'08
October 23, 2008

9:02 a.m.

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LingLingfor_prez writes:

Watch a couple episodes of Judge Judy and you will see some people that pay no taxes and get SSI for being a fraud. I wouldn't distribute a penny to them. Am I being sensitive enough?
October 23, 2008

9:06 a.m.

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speakthetruth writes:

Most of us know the Denver Post leans Dem, but I now think the Rocky is moving that way too. Congrats!!! Glad you are moving away from the Dark Side.

Obama/Biden '08!!!
October 23, 2008

9:13 a.m.

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dilligaf writes:

spencerr
So I guess what you purpose is that the rich continues to get richer and when they get in trouble us peons bail them out and the middle class continues to loose their health insurance and fall further and further behind. For god sake the last thing we want is for some one to help the low life trash. Because helping them is socialism and bailing out the rich is capitalism and the great American free market.
October 23, 2008

9:18 a.m.

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spencerr writes:

Whoa dilligaf,

I didn't throw any of that rhetoric at you. I was just pointing out the differences between the times and the candidates.

I have already voted, and as God as a witness, I will never vote for a democrat while I still live (though, considering their voting practices, I suppose I might vote for them after I have passed on).

That being said, I am not all that stoked up about McCain or the way Bush has run this country. ...so lay off.

I was just pointing out a couple fallacies in your last post.
October 23, 2008

9:22 a.m.

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spencerr writes:

And btw, dilligaf,

Us peons didn't bail anyone out. That bill was footed mostly by the richest 10 percent (or will be when all is said and done). The people who you are batting for are net tax receivers or otherwise non-players.

Still amounts to corporate socialism, and any form of socialism should be snuffed out.
October 23, 2008

9:46 a.m.

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boogman writes:

I sent my absentee ballot in already since I will be out of town. I didn't check Nobama's name or Udall for that matter. I would liked to have checked one of the other no name candidates further down the list because I don't like the idea that our only 2 choices are US Senators - the biggest old boys club (with a few women) in the country. IMHO Senators aren't very qualified to be President - especially those who have never run a business or anything. The last one was Kennedy in 1960 and things have changed a bit since then.
October 23, 2008

10:08 a.m.

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Nobama writes:

It sure looks like Barack Obama will be the next President of the United States. This is a sad commentary about our country. It implies that a majority of voters favor a candidate based more upon personal characteristics and attributes instead of political ideals and experience. This same majority apparently think that Obama and the Federal government can, or should, resolve their personal education, health, welfare, social and economic problems. If so, we are likely heading down a path towards socialism and away from capitalism. It is hard for me to believe that Obama’s “followers” are so naïve, idealistic and gullible.
October 23, 2008

10:09 a.m.

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Creative_N_Denver writes:

Stay home Obama! Stay home McCain! All promises will be null and void after either is voted into office. It is going to be a bumpy 4 years!
October 23, 2008

10:14 a.m.

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spencerr writes:

Nobama,

Some of his followers are socialists, some more moderate liberals. The rest are, what you call "naive, idealistic and gullible."

It's just a high school popularity contest...um, election. "If I win, everyone gets free stuff. You will be worry free."

It's socialism, but with any luck, most of the sukkers who voted for him the first time around will realize that he is not giving them what they signed up for. Those are the ones that don't vote next time.
October 23, 2008

10:15 a.m.

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EXrepublican writes:

Nobama writes:"It implies that a majority of voters favor a candidate based more upon personal characteristics and attributes instead of political ideals and experience."

Like Bush1 and 2 or Regan?
October 23, 2008

10:36 a.m.

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Nobama writes:

EXrepublican writes:

"Nobama writes:"It implies that a majority of voters favor a candidate based more upon personal characteristics and attributes instead of political ideals and experience."

Like Bush1 and 2 or Regan?"

It's hard to keep from insulting you, but I'll try. Do you honestly know what the resumes of these three Presidents looked like when they first ran for President? And do you know what political principles they stood for, right up front with the American people? You do? Then, compare those two factors to Obama's, side by side, and tell me you made a logical point.

Oh, by the way, it's Reagan, not Regan. I'm guessing your historical perspective doesn't go back much more than 4 years. {Darn, I guess I DID manage to insult you.)
October 23, 2008

10:42 a.m.

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spencerr writes:

The funny thing is that the democrat presidential candidate has less executive experience (translation: relevant experience) than the republican VP candidate.

That said, none of the four have any REAL executive experience. I just think it is funny how everyone is ripping one VP candidate because she is not qualified to be PRESIDENT when the other three people on the two tickets are less qualified than her.

That said, I don't really care who wins. Vote yes on 47 and 49.
October 23, 2008

10:55 a.m.

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dilligaf writes:

I heard that when Palin was here she had her driver stop at Walmart. She said she needed diapers. The driver ask if the baby was out. She said no John called and said he was out and wanted me to pick some up for him.
October 23, 2008

11:07 a.m.

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boogman writes:

good one dilligaf - there are lots of people in the Congress & Senate that could be called Senator Depends, Byrd, Biden, Kennedy to name a few. When the Biden limo was going by a pharmacy they stopped in to get Joe some more Aricept. They are trying to keep him from putting his foot deeper in his mouth. Pfizer could make billions of dollars just selling Aricept to politicians. For those of you who don't recall Aricept is the only drug indicated for the treatment of Alzheimer's.
October 23, 2008

12:25 p.m.

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StarsNStripes writes:

Barack Obama's 85-year-old grandmother broke her hip recently and is "gravely ill," her brother said>>>Tuesday <<<
Sen. Barack Obama told The Early Show co-anchor Harry Smith that he doesn’t want to make the same mistake with his grandmother that he made with his dying mother.

CBS reports
In an exclusive interview to be broadcast Thursday morning, the Democratic presidential candidate recalled how didn’t get to his mother before she died.

“Yeah, got there too late,” the senator said in the interview, conducted Wednesday afternoon in Richmond, Va. “You know, I mean, it was sort of like this, in the sense that she had a terminal illness. We knew she wasn’t doing well, but you know, the diagnosis was such that we thought we had a little more time and we didn’t. And so I want to make sure that I don’t make the same mistake twice.”

Obama's campaign confirmed Wednesday that he will be in Colorado on Sunday, but did not release a location or other

So if NOBAMA is SO deeply concerned. Why is he still comming to Denver?

McCain / Palin 08
October 23, 2008

12:47 p.m.

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dilligaf writes:

StarsNStripes
Another idiot showing why the Republicans are going down and going down hard. People are fed up with their nasty hatred.
October 23, 2008

1:20 p.m.

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5thgennative writes:

You all are so moronic...scary to think that you will be voting for our next president. You're so caught up in the celebrity and gossip of all of this that I can't distinguish you from Extra or ET
October 23, 2008

7:21 p.m.

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Speak writes:

I heard that when NOBama was here he had his driver stop at the Wal-Mart. He said he needed diapers. The driver asked if Biden was out. He said no I been talking so much crap I wanted to be ready.

See how its done…………Supposedly your party (Dems) is the kinder gentler party can we go back to being civil or continue with the dozens game. “My Big Black Brothers”…..got this!
October 24, 2008

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bph writes:

Spread the Wealth Baby!!!!! Bring on Socialism so Big Brother can take care of us.

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Obama to be in Denver on Sunday

McCain, Clinton will campaign in state Friday

By Sara Burnett, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)

Published October 22, 2008 at 12:21 p.m.Updated October 23, 2008 at 6:37 a.m.

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