Broncos lose Ramsey, call Champ Bailey's injury 'severe'

By Jeff Legwold, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)

Published October 22, 2008 at 12:29 p.m.

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Broncos coach Mike Shanahan confirmed Wednesday cornerback Champ Bailey will miss at least a month with a tear in a groin muscle that he termed a "severe injury.''

Bailey could miss more time, but the Broncos are hoping he can return by late November or early December.

"I think it will be a month for sure,'' Shanahan said.

Linebacker Boss Bailey will have microfracture surgery on his knee within a week or so – they need swelling to go down – and the Broncos are hopeful he's back on the field in time for training camp in 2009.

Quarterback Patrick Ramsey, who played six plays against the Patriots in the first half Monday night, reaggravated a right elbow injury he suffered in training camp. The injury is severe enough that he will miss the rest of the season.

The Broncos added Ramsey and Boss Bailey to injured reserve Wednesday.

They will elevate Darrell Hackney from their practice squad to the active roster and are considering several veteran quarterbacks.

Running back Michael Pittman who has sore ribs on his right side and also had a stinger in Monday's game, was being sent for a precautionary exam by a neurosurgeon Wednesday to check his neck.

"But I'm fine, they're just going to make sure,'' Pittman said.

Wide receiver Chad Jackson, who was in for a workout recently, will be brought back to visit with Shanahan and could be signed as well.

Tackle Erik Pears, who had an appendectomy in Massachussetts Sunday night and was on the sideline for Monday night's game, was moved to reserve/non football injury, which finishes his season as well.

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October 22, 2008

1:09 p.m.

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Broncody writes:

Wow more good news... It is getting hard to be optimistic anymore
October 22, 2008

1:21 p.m.

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arvada_mark writes:

Oh, man...My expectations are now offically lowered. And why the receiver? Is Stokes worse than we thought? Or does this have to do with Darrell Jackson's non-production?
October 22, 2008

1:37 p.m.

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Outlaw writes:

Call up John Lynch. Tell him you are sorry. He can come back and start.

Maybe some tackles will be made, with him to show the rest of the D how it is done.
October 22, 2008

1:51 p.m.

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mmmark217 writes:

I have one thing to say about the loss Monday Night and that is this. The Av's played at 8:30 Monday as well!!!
October 22, 2008

2:37 p.m.

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I_am_smarter_than_you writes:

Where are the pumpers today????
October 22, 2008

3:15 p.m.

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righty_left writes:

Cherry Creek HS may have a flew players they can loan out.
October 22, 2008

3:21 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

A page full of whiners. Sell your Broncos jerseys, ect., to me. You all apparently have given up. Still in 1st place and crying. I use this term often and I will continue to use it. It's ok to be frustrated, but when you talk about doom and gloom, you are nothing more then bandwagon fans. I've been a Broncos fan for 37 years and I support them through thick and thin. When you talk nonsense like "mmmark217", you are NOT a fan. Either jump on the bus for the ride, good or bad, or get off and walk.
October 22, 2008

3:54 p.m.

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Brunowolfe writes:

Dynamicdave writes:

A page full of whiners. Sell your Broncos jerseys, ect., to me. You all apparently have given up. Still in 1st place and crying. I use this term often and I will continue to use it. It's ok to be frustrated, but when you talk about doom and gloom, you are nothing more then bandwagon fans. I've been a Broncos fan for 37 years and I support them through thick and thin. When you talk nonsense like "mmmark217", you are NOT a fan. Either jump on the bus for the ride, good or bad, or get off and walk.

Dave, are you serious! If we don't "rah rah" we aren't fans? LMFAO....so if we objectively look at the team: it's horrendously bad defense, terrible kick-off returns, recent offensive slump, massive injuries, etc, etc....and someone makes a joke about it then that person isn't a fan? Tad facist aren't we?
This team is in first place because of a Hochuli gift and a missed field goal. Otherwise it's 2-5 going into this bye week. And as for the future of this team, there is nothing that makes it appear that this team is going to get better. They are committed to the layback zone on D that other teams are picking apart. They can't decide if they want to play 4-3 or 3-4, although it apparently doesn't matter cause they get the ball ran down their throat either way. The offense has been all but buffoonish the last 4 games, averaging 15 points a game, and doesn't look to have any hope of recovering the early season fireworks. As I said before the beggining of the season, Shanahan didn't shore up the D, the D picks from previous seasons weren't good, and this was a 7-9 team waiting to happen. Nice start. But no way was the offense going to be able to put enough points on the board to overcome the defensive shortcomings. Now with Champ and Boss hurt, the best DB and LB the team had, with the secondary in complete dissarray and the DLine all but useless....This team is done.
October 22, 2008

3:59 p.m.

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ColoradoSportsFaninTexas writes:

If you are a true Broncos fan, you are still going to support this team, no matter how grim things look......

I realize they have just lost quite a few players to injury, but there are some positives to look at....They should have Torain ready for the Jets, they still are in first place in the West, they have two weeks to try to work out their problems, and although Favre and the Jets are a competitive team, the Broncs could be facing a tougher opponent coming out of the Bye week......

And if you think the Broncs are in bad shape...How would you like to be the Dolts, or the Raiduhs, or the Chiefs.....The dolts are in a real mess...All those Pro Bowlers, and they still have a losing record, and they will be facing a tougher second half schedule.....And of course, the Raiduhs and Chiefs will be battling it out for last place in the division, and the rights to a high draft pick......

So, for all you bandwagon jumpers....go ahead....bail out....the true Bronco fans will stay with the team....We dont need, nor want your support.....
October 22, 2008

4:05 p.m.

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philvysor writes:

Dynamicdave, Are you going to call these people idiots also? Hmmm.... sounds like what i was saying in the other articles. Sounds like these Bronco fans know when to say enough is enough and start building for next year.
October 22, 2008

4:11 p.m.

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denverone writes:

I agree with bringing John Lynch back. I hated that move from the start. He was the rock on defense, and was like having a coach on the field. How they let the defensive leader go, is beyond me.
Whether he lost a step or not, he had a nose for the ball, and was always in the right place and never over ran a play(Lowery). He would have saved a minimum of 5 touchdowns this year already.
October 22, 2008

4:12 p.m.

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ColoradoSportsFaninTexas writes:

Brunowolfe....How can you say the Broncos are done?? Yes, the Broncs have lots of issues, and now lots of injuries....but there is still a lot of football left.....

I may be overly optimistic and naive, just as you seem to be overly pessimistic and naive...but I still think the Broncs can still win the division, and make the playoffs....If you dont think so, who do you think will win the West?? Dont give me the Dolts, because they are in worst shape than the Broncs....and take a look at the rest of their schedule.....and dont even think about the Raiduhs or Chiefs making a dramatic comeback....they will probably fight it out just to stay out of the cellar....

At any rate, I agree with dynamicDave....I am seeing a lot of negativity regarding the Broncs....yes things look grim right now, but this team can change things around, despite all the obstacles...

GO BRONCS!!!
October 22, 2008

4:26 p.m.

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ColoradoSportsFaninTexas writes:

denverone....one correction....they didnt let Lynch go...As you may recall, He felt the situation wasnt right, and elected to leave the Broncos...However, I am intrigued by bringing back Lynch...He still hits like a hammer...and is a pretty sure tackler...I would love to see the Broncs bring him back, but I just dont know if he has the foot speed to play safety...but he might be interesting to see as a middle 'backer......
October 22, 2008

4:29 p.m.

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JohnnyBallgame writes:

Brunowolfe stop posting you are making us all dumber.

I am with you Dynamic dave I am all for being critical of your team but you can still supprt them and root for them to get better. Regardless of how we started the year we are still a young team in a rebuilding mode.

GO BRONCOS!!!
October 22, 2008

5:07 p.m.

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Toz writes:

I would love to see them bring back Bradlee VanPelt, as a back-up. Cutler has all the potential in the world. I hope he can live up to expectations, but please please please stop throwing into triple coverage!!!

That game was horrendous. I agree that Shanny must go. He has not done a thing since Elway retired. I don't even think he was that much of a factor in the Superbowl wins.. Elway finally had run support, any coach could have won in that situation.

- a Bronco fan stuck in Boston, and yes I hate the Patsies
October 22, 2008

6:40 p.m.

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Broncos4Life1 writes:

Finally a real vote for Shanahan(our coach for life) to hit the road! If he is the Mastermind that everyone claims he is, when is he going to do something in the draft that will positively impact our team for several seasons? When is he going to admit that he can't coach and be the GM? When is he going to throw the ball on 3rd and 5 instead of running into the middle of the line and then punting? The Broncos have a lot of talent, but not enough to make much noise in the playoffs if they somehow get there. But there is no depth on that team, all the injuries of this weeks game could be season ending for our playoff dreams too! Hey Mike, you had a good run, when Elway was still suiting up, but you seem to be stuck in neutral now. That last Super Bowl win was 10 years ago, are we going to ever sniff the playoffs again as real threat? Not unless Bowlen comes down from Mt Olympus and decides to grace us with a decision on the state of his team! Do something besides raising our ticket prices every couple of years!
October 22, 2008

6:45 p.m.

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Brain writes:

This season doesn't look too good; yes the Broncos still have a decent chance at winning the division but doesn't look like they can win a playoff game and I'm ok with that, it is still progress from last season and the Broncos future on offense is still bright .

The defense is very troubling, they can't seem to tackle (#37 stinks bounces off RB's when trying to tackle, get rid of him) anyone and can't collapse the pocket. We need a stand-out LB and a S that can hit and tackle and thats just for starters.

Mia = win
@ Clv = win
@ Atl = ?
Oak = win
@ Jets = possible win??
K.C. = win
@ Car = loss
Buf = loss
@ S.D. = ahhhhhh loss

looks like a 9-7/10-6 season and that still might be better than S.D.
Go Broncos!!!
October 22, 2008

6:59 p.m.

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incognitoboy writes:

please, toz! BVP??? uhhhh, NO! darryl hackney is still with the team, and has been elevated to the lineup. he's a FAR better option than BVP. we just better hope he isn't needed, because THEN we have to sign someone who isn't familiar with the system, as a backup. just watch the morale of both team and fan base plummet then.....watch for shanahan to add a qb to the PS again so he can get familiar with the system. is preston parsons currently with another team? he's still reasonably familiar, although untested.

my biggest worry is the D situation. already bad and just got worse. wow.......maybe we should go begging to lynch, like CFSinT said. maybe move larsen back to LB?

time to step it up, paymah.....williams.....BLY
October 22, 2008

7:39 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

ColoradoSportsFaninTexas and JohnnyBallgame, thanks for the perks. Hey, these guys get frustrated, fine, but they whine and whine and many have thrown in the towell. That's on them. They probably give up on other things in their life, with attitudes like that. I am here for the ride. Good/bad, doesn't matter. I support my team. Constructive critisism is one thing, but to scream for Shanahans head, saying they won't watch anymore, saying they are through (when we're in 1st place, still), etc., is moronic. I bet when we were 3-0, they weren't compaining.
philvysor, no, I'm only calling you an idiot. Learn the difference.
October 22, 2008

7:46 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

Brain, I think we will beat Carolina. Buffalo and SD will be "iffy". Same with Atlanta. Lets see how we heal from injuries and how our replacements respond. What do you make of Shanahan signing Chad Jackson? He's coming off a bad ACL from last year. The way I see it, he couldn't be any worse then Darrell Jackson. He has been non-existent.
October 22, 2008

7:58 p.m.

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Soonerhorse writes:

When Denver wins the next four, all the same whiners and bandwagon quiters on this very thread are going to get all ahead of themselves just long enough to get all hateful again when Denver makes an early playoff exit.

Anybody that bought into to all the hype regarding the start the Broncos had deserves to be all hateful today. So goes the NFL media and fan cycle, though. Always make them either twice as good or twice as bad as they really are. Its not like anybody should be surprised that these guys struggle at times. As was clear all along, they have serious problems in the secondary and they don't tackle well. That was as true at 3-0 as it is at 4-3. As for the Patriot game, it went exactly how it should go if you turn the ball over 6 times on the road. Denver was two Hall fumbles and a stupid personal foul away from, at the very least, losing respectably. But with parity as it is, momentum is the MVP in the NFL right now.

Long story short, Denver isn't nearly as bad as they looked on Monday, just as they aren't nearly as good as they looked the last time they played Monday night.

The real long term threat is that it will become fashionable to hate Cutler. Give the local media the greenlight and they'll run him out of here just like they ran Griese and Plummer out of here. I don't care who you are, the constant negative scrutiny takes its toll after awhile. Its ridiculous that Cutler is already being crucified for believing in himself and his team, and for struggling at times. Its his third freakin year. It takes more than three years to become a really good anything, much less an NFL quarterback. Look at Elway's stats his third year. In today's NFL with today's fans and media, Elway would have been declared a bust.
October 22, 2008

8:05 p.m.

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Brunowolfe writes:

JohnnyBallgame writes:
"Brunowolfe stop posting you are making us all dumber.". I'm not sure that's possible Johnny (although I wouldn't rule it out). Anyways, you are doing fine at that; I'll leave that to you.

Dynamic Dave....
I said before this season started, on BroncoTalk.com, that this defense would be one of the worst in the league: because of the safety situation, lack of a DLine, LBs that had no good middle backer and no back-ups on the outside, too many new faces with a new cooridnator (again), and the scheme that they were going to play didn't play to the strengths of the team (it's all on BroncoTalk). So far, I've been proven right. They can't stop the pass, they can't stop the run. Their best ranking of the major categories on Defense is 27th in 'Points Allowed'. And now with Boss and Champ hurt, they are going to just get buried unless they change the scheme.
I admit they had a nice start. But that was clearly helped by the Hochuli goof and the missed FG against NO. I'm not a pessimist or an optomist, I'm a realist. I analyze and make my own conclusions. You are a fanatic. This team is "that close" (read what Champ Bailey said) to nose diving to another horrific finish (7-9 or 6-10 season). How many playoff games we won since TD and Elway left again? The bye came at the right time. Maybe Shanahan can rev the team up, maybe not. I don't think so because nothing shows me they will. And i guess Bowlen will keep him on still, so we can go through this same crap next year...
October 22, 2008

11:26 p.m.

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kidski52 writes:

Who does everyone want to bring in as the next coach? Is Marty available, oh wait, his play off record is worse than Shanny's. How about Cowher, no, retired for now although maybe. Shanny needs to show this team how to play with a attitude, something he has never done before, it's usually been left up to the players and so far, recently, none have stepped up. Maybe if the owner steps up and makes EVERYBODY accountable for their future things might change
October 22, 2008

11:26 p.m.

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kerrdawg writes:

First place in the division and the Shanahaters are out in numbers. Every owner, every coach, every player in this league knows Shanahan is one of the top coaches in the game. He is not a defensive minded coach and never was. How many "great" defensive coordinators are available? Who are you gonna get to replace Shanahan or Slowick? Given the youth, the new defensive and offensive coordinaters, and the fact that we need a couple good defensive drafts, I thought this team would be lucky to be 8-8. I would love to see this team gel this year and win the super bowl, but that's not very realistic. I just hope they make the playoffs and get these young kids some post season experience. Just please don't change any coaches in the offseason, youth needs consistency. This team will be a force to contend with for the next decade. The foundation is in place. GO BRONCOS!
October 23, 2008

1:47 a.m.

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jugdish writes:

Dynamicdave
Are you delusional or just getting over a cold and still on the goofy juice?
I'm all for being a fan... but not drinking the Kool-aid. A true fan can still be a realist. Provide some suggestions in your posts.
Not just potshots at fans who are calling for action. No doubt some knuckleheads go too far...like calling for Shanny's head.
But most just want this franchise to move forward and right now its stuck in neutral on the defensive side of the ball.
Offensively, there's a lot to be excited about. Drafting Cutler and Clady looks pretty smart right now. Same goes for picking Marshall in the 4th and the Ryan Harris and Chris Kuper picks look good. And wow, what about Royal!? Even Scheffler was a good pick despite his glass-like physique (does that honest assessment make me a non-fan?) Defensively, outside of Champ, DJ and Elvis as a situational pass rusher, there really isn't much to get pumped about. This FAN is immersed in reality.
October 23, 2008

8:02 a.m.

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GeeTee writes:

I think Vinny Testaverde is still on the market -- c'mon Shanny, pick up the phone!!
October 23, 2008

12:28 p.m.

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chill134 writes:

I'm surely not a bandwagon fan. I simply konw that Shannahan's time is up. I'm not okay with getting to the playoffs and losing. The team quit on Shanny Monday. That's something i've never seen before. Call me Obama, but it's time for change.
October 23, 2008

12:34 p.m.

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chill134 writes:

Dynamicdave,

The Broncos were never 3-0. Just ask Ed Hochuli.
October 23, 2008

12:51 p.m.

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Admiral108 writes:

CHUMP Bailey
October 23, 2008

1:54 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

chill134, go sit in a corner and cry with philvysor and jughead , er, jugdish. Why would I call you Obama? We already have an idiot on the blog. His name is philvysor. And you, jugdish, being a true fan doesn't mean drinking koolaid, it means supporting a team and stop acting like a spoiled child. Denver is STILL in 1st place. They are STILL leading their division. Nobody bothers to look at the injuries they have suffered on offense. They were to key players. They had them happen game after game. It took the offense out of rhythm. Defense never gelled. Still going to have to work on that. But I'm tired of reading about everyone writing in saying they are toast, Denver's done, etc., when we're still in 1st. 9 games to go. Those are not frustrated "true" Bronco fans. They are bandwagon, plain and simple. People don't like it when I speak the truth and hurt their feelings. Tough. I don't get on this blog to make their day. I have enough people on this blog who agree with much of what I say. I'm not here to please the rest. Opinions are like a**holes, we all have one and they all stink. Except mine, but, hey, that's just my opinion.
October 23, 2008

1:57 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

Admiral108, it's remarks like that, that tell me everything I need to know of you. You know absolutely NOTHING about football.
October 23, 2008

1:59 p.m.

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chill134 writes:

Once again, Dynamicdave, the Broncos are in first place because of one person. His name is Ed Hochuli. Their season is over. All but 2 of them have quit playing. Some of us don't want to wait until the next 9 games are overwith to get real. Shanny's prime is overwith. Bring on Cowher. It's what's best for the Broncos.
If the Broncos DO make the playoffs, it's one and done, I promise.
I thought I was wrong once, but I wasn't.
October 23, 2008

2:04 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

chill134, what has Cowher done? He was a head coach for a lot longer then Shanahan, before he finally won a SB. And he won 1. Shanahan, 2, back to back. He got us into the playoffs but Plummer choked. And all that crying about the Hochuli call..... STILL? Makes you sound like a Chargers fan? We had plenty of bad calls, ourselves, but you don't hear me crying over them like the Charger fans did. It happens, it's part of football. Get over it already.
October 23, 2008

2:11 p.m.

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chill134 writes:

I'm definitely over it, and not one to blame games on the officials. Bad calls are made every game, both ways. However, most of them do not DECIDE games. All i'm saying is you keep bringing up the fact that the Broncos are in first place, but the reality is, they didn't earn it and they are not a first place team. First place teams don't quit and get absolutely embarassed by a quarterback who didn't start a game in college. I can talk until I'm blue in the face. Keep hanging on to your playoff hopes with Shanny. You'll see. And when it all comes crashing down, i'll be here to say "I TOLD YOU SO 9 GAMES AGO."

I'm a die-hard Broncos fan, but i'm also realistic. Does this mean i'm selling my Cutler, Champ, and Marshall jersey's? No. Does this mean i'm going to stop cheering for the Broncos? nope. Does it mean I'm going to give up my tickets? nope. Don't get it twisted. You just need a dose of reality.
October 23, 2008

2:30 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

chill134, of course Denver earned it. Or better yet, the SD Dolts DIDN't earn it. We gave them not 1, but 2 chances to stop us. The same exact play. They didn't do it. Denver earned the win. You won't change my opinion of that. I'm very realistic. Being critical of the Broncos is fine, but remarks like screaming for Shanahans head is bandwagon. ESPECIALLY, because we are still in 1st. You can believe whatever you want in regards to that, but facts are facts... 1st place. I will never support the cries for Shanahans head. Shanahan didn't tell the players to fumble. Turnovers are mental lapses that a player has to deal with. Shanahan can only do so much with a player when he commits turnovers. Defense needs work. That's obvious. But I think it can be shored up. I will never turn on my team. Screaming for Shanahans head is doing just that. You're turning on them. Maybe not to the degree as some of these bloggers, but turning, never the less.
October 23, 2008

2:47 p.m.

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chill134 writes:

I'm certainly not turning on my team. I'm stating what I feel is necessary to improve the situation. Turning would be bruning my jersey's and not attending games anymore. What I saw Monday wasn't pretty. Was it all Shanny's fault? No way. You're right, he didn't cause 5 turnovers, the players did. However, it was the players decision to quit. They stopped playing hard. There was no intensity. When players aren't motivated to play for a coach anymore it's a serious problem and it speaks volumes. That's what I saw on Monday and it worries me. We may be in 1st now, but it won't last if we keep going like this. The wheels are coming off my friend. Wait and see. I'll be here to tell you things will get better once Shanny does part ways with the Broncos. sidenote: I honestly do like the guy and believe he is a football genius. Why he can't get it done anymore, i'm not sure but I feel like i've given him the benefit of the doubt for quite some time now and we need to move on.
October 23, 2008

2:52 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

chill134, oh, one more thing. You stated on another blog, "I have 2 words "Game over", unquote. If you truly feel that way, then why bother watching. That's where my "bandwagon" comments come from. You have this crystal ball that nobody else has? Because I never say never. Until the Broncos are mathematically out of it, I never say die. You already gave up. So my assessment of you was correct. Bandwagon.
October 23, 2008

3:03 p.m.

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chill134 writes:

and my assessment of you is correct. Unrealistic and blind. How can you say we earned the win against SD? That's compete stupidity. You claiming "they had 2 chances to stop us" is absurd. They already stopped us to win the game. Why should they have to do it two more times? That's like getting two more 3 pointers to win a basketball game when the clock says 0.
You do know this is going to end badly for you on this blog, right? The Broncos may not even be playoff bound, and if they are it's one and done. So yes, I think "game over" sounds about right. I'll be here to say I told you so 9 games ago. In the end, Shanny will be gone, too. Rome even threw it out there today.
October 23, 2008

3:19 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

Rome is an overpaid monkey who never played a sport in his life. I at least, kickboxed in mine. He is just an opinion like many others, including mine. But, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, chill134, but anyone who gives up on a 1st place team is bandwagon. I've eaten crow in my day. This just won't be one of them. Maybe they will, maybe they won't get knocked out in the 1st round of the playoffs, don't know. No crystal ball. But I know they will fight and scratch to get there. I, at least will be watching them with positive in my heart, not negativism and bad chi.
October 23, 2008

3:53 p.m.

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chill134 writes:

fight and scratch? that's laughable. They sure fought and scratched in on Monday, right? um, no, they quit.
October 23, 2008

4:36 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

chill134, big difference between a "realist" and a "pessimist". Guess which one you're falling under? Anyways, it's been fun bantering, but I have to go teach class. Until next time.....
October 23, 2008

4:54 p.m.

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Winthrop writes:

DD or dave 77 or whatever, have you seen the shrink yet?
October 23, 2008

7:27 p.m.

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bilco writes:

Two options, bring in BVP as a back-up, finally DUMP the mastermind, and bring in Elway as the coach.

Shannie is DONE stick a fork in his dumb a**!
October 23, 2008

8:24 p.m.

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kerrdawg writes:

Bring in Elway to coach??? So, just because he was a great QB, he's a better head coach then Shanahan despite having no coaching experience. And Cowher??? Give me a break, the guy is a good coach, but then who is your GM? Your VP of Football operations? Shanahan is a Genius. There is no other coach in the league with so much responsibility and who has put a competitive football team on the field every year. Does it work out every year? NO! But every year we have a chance, and in today's NFL, that's all you can ask for.
October 23, 2008

8:28 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

Winthrop, you are such a clown. I'm not Dave77 so get your facts straight before you open your mouth. Read the blog 1st, before you speak and you would have noticed my comment to Dave77. I may be outspoken but I don't rant. You assume too much.
October 23, 2008

8:41 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

kerrdawg, tell them like it is. But it wouldn't matter what you say to them, like Winthrop, for example. He doesn't read the blogs thoroughly before he goes off on somebody. He spouts off at me because he thought I was the prozac deficient Dave77. You and I and a few others have been trying to tell these people that firing Shanahan would be moronic, but they aren't Broncos fans. They may watch them occasionally, or when they're winning, but that's it. When Denver starts to lose, they get all negative and talk down on their "so-called-team". They say they won't watch them anymore because it's too painful, etc.. When I taught martial arts at my studio, I never let my kids bring their negativity to the class. If something's bothering them, I let them work it out on the mat or the bag. The Broncos will try to make sure the negativity doesn't get brought to the locker room. They work it out on the field. The fans can be "overly-critical". They want "drastic changes" for a 1st place team. Really makes sense, huh?
October 23, 2008

10:43 p.m.

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Brain writes:

Dave,never liked Chad Jackson or Darrel (at least not good fantasy point players).
This team is going to be great but it needs this season to learn how. We probably have too many problems on D to fix entirely by next year but our O is good/great now; yes all O's have there ups and downs and right now we don't have a D to help us win when they O is having a "down".
I would have been for getting rid of Shanahan 2-3 years ago; now is not the time we need to stay the course and take our lumps as they come!

Go Broncos!
October 23, 2008

11:53 p.m.

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Dynamicdave writes:

Brain, as I said, earlier before all the other garbage, I never saw him play so I knew nothing about him. D. Jackson needs to go. I don't see the teams D fixing it all this year, either. But hopefully they can do a bit better then they have. Enough anyways, to help Denver get more W's. They need to start playing the ball, not the man.
October 24, 2008

8:34 p.m.

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Brain writes:

Absolutley agree Dave; the ball, quit playing the blocker/man and get to the BALL; do not focus on anything but where the ball is, thats how I played!

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