Could Obama pass high level security clearance?

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Dwight Linkhart, Boulder

Published October 20, 2008 at 6 p.m.

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America’s greatest humorist and good-will ambassador to the world, Will Rogers, said : “I don’t make jokes; I just watch the U.S. congress and report the facts!”

In the current presidential race, reporting to the American people the facts of Barack Obama’s life is not “negative campaigning;” nor is it “smearing.” What is it? It is reporting the facts.

If as a citizen Barack Obama applies for a high level U.S. government job requiring Top Secret clearance, does he pass the investigative process? Citizens, please think about it.

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October 21, 2008

12:47 a.m.

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becca00 writes:

As a matter of fact, he probably could. Because passing a security clearance involves actually investigating claims and doing real analysis, as opposed to abiding by ignorant rumors, innuendo, and fear-mongering.

Thankfully, Dwight, you don't work for our national security infrastructure.
October 21, 2008

3:12 a.m.

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clyde writes:

With Obama's background, he couldn't even pass a low-level security check. His associations would make him a security problem in any airport in the country.

Don't try to explain this to the Obamabots, as it doesn't matter if their "Messiah" has a bit of a security problem.
October 21, 2008

5:31 a.m.

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leftside writes:

Here you go clyde, you probably didn't have a clear understanding of this sentence in becca's post so I'll repost it. Maybe you'll be able to understand it better on the second read.

"Because passing a security clearance involves actually investigating claims and doing real analysis, as opposed to abiding by ignorant rumors, innuendo, and fear-mongering."
October 21, 2008

6:20 a.m.

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NavyChief writes:

Probably not. There are 2 open lawsuits in Federal Court right now that concern his citizenship. One has been filed in Philadelphia and the other in Washington State. Neither lawsuit has been answered by Obama or the DNC which are both listed in the suits.

Right now, there is considerable controvesy about where he was born and what his staus is. His own grandmother claims he was born in Kenya. He claims he was born in Hawaii. He went to school in Indonesia when being a citizen of Indonesia was mandatory to attend school. There is specualtion that he traveled to Pakistan on an Indonesian Passport at the age of 18. Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship, so if he in fact held an Indonesian passport, he would have had to been a citizen of Indonesia.

Bottom line, he has yet to provide a full birth certificate to the courts in question.

I am a military recruiter right now, and if someone can not provide documents that demonstrate either citizenship by birth in the USA, citizenship by birth abroad of US citizens (this is where McCain fits) or a naturalzation certificate (aka green card), they can not enlist. I don't see where someone running for the highest office in the land can have any different requirememnts.

I don't know where the man was born. But if he has the documents, why has he not produced them to dispell the lawsuits once and for all? It's pretty simple to do so. In 2004 McCain had to produce the documents since he was born in Panama to a U.S. Naval officer stationed abroad. Obama should also be required to put this rumor to bed once and for all.

Even without getting into the accusations of his relationships with suspect people, the citizenship issue is critical. The constitution specifically addresses it and it must be resolved to head off what could be a serious constitutional crisis if it is in fact proved he is not a natural born citizen.

Until that time, he would not qualify for even entry level enlistment into the armed forces of this nation.
October 21, 2008

7:09 a.m.

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cjc1951 writes:

Obama would pass, just what evidence do you have that he wouldnt? That he has a funny sounding name? That logic says Mccain shouldnt pass either, lets see McVie ( Timothy) = McCain, hmmm kinda similar must mean Insane Mccain will be blowing up buildings soon. Better investigate that traitor now before its too late.
If there was any chance he wouldnt pas the Mccain Slime Express would be out there screaming about it. Yet amonst all their lies and distortions they havent been ablee to get anything remotely close or Scumbag John would have a commercial by now.
General Colin Powell has just endorsed Obama. Are you questioning Powell's patriotism now too? Is he another traitor to America since he opposes your guy?
October 21, 2008

7:10 a.m.

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grandpaw writes:

NavyChief should stick to recruiting because he is too ill-informed to talk about politics. Obama's birth certificate has been a matter of public record on the internet for some months now.

If there were any valid question about where Obama was born, do you think that the Republican party would keep silent about it? Of course not. But you won't find any such claim by the Republican party or indeed by any Republican of stature. The party is making millions of robocalls alleging a number of false accusations, yet not one of them is about Obama's citizenship. It's the wingnuts who keep bringing it up.

As for the lawsuits, I could bring a suit alleging that NavyChief is a Muslim who works with a terrorist group. One reason people lose lawsuits is that they allege things that they cannot prove.
October 21, 2008

7:52 a.m.

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EXrepublican writes:

As a Member of the United States Senate... He already has passed a security screening.

everything else is gop desperation.

BTW McSame has passed the Security Screening, and He was Born In Panama... Not a state nor a territory of the United States.
October 21, 2008

8:26 a.m.

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NavyChief writes:

Funny how I'm getting personal attacks. Bottom line is with the open allegations, if he was looking for a high level security clearance, it would most likely be refused based on info flying around. It is up to the applicant to disprove the allegations when a security clearance is being reviewed.

The question asked was if he could get a high level security clearance right now. I stick by my answer of probably not.

What ever happened in the past is not relevant to the question. You do not have to be a natural born citizen to be a Senator, but you do to get elected President. 2 completely different criterias.

When elected Senator, one is only representing a single state, when one is elected President, they are representing the entire country. Huge difference.

Personally, I don't know where he was born. I don't care where he was born. But if I was in his shoes, I'd dispell the lawsuits before the elction to eliminate any possible issues later.

Navy Chief
October 21, 2008

8:52 a.m.

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leftside writes:

Navycheif, don't play the victim. If you come in here and make ludicrous statements and accusations against a candidate your going to get attacked.

This is just another conservative ploy based on lies and used as a form of fear mongering. It's not working. It worked in 2004 with Kerry and the people that fell for it back then now realize they made a mistake and there not going to let it happen again. Face it, people like you have no credibility.
October 21, 2008

10:23 a.m.

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anderson writes:

becca summed it up well. NavyChief, you're full of spooky claims, but you haven't provided a shred of evidence. You know, there is a lot of media (talk radio for starters) that trades in purposeful misinformation, day in and day out. If that's all you listen to, you will be misinformed.
October 21, 2008

10:36 a.m.

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grandpaw writes:

I wondered where NavyChief got the idea about security clearance. Perhaps at the Neocon Express website which also shows a concocted photo of Obama with a hammer and sickle in the background.

NavyChief: "When elected Senator, one is only representing a single state, when one is elected President, they are representing the entire country. Huge difference."

No, not a huge difference; in fact, a distinction without a difference. It doesn't matter who a person represents, it's a matter of whether he can be trusted to have top secret information. It there were information, for example, that the United States were about to invade Iran, we wouldn't want anyone to have that information who wanted to undermine the United States, whether he was the president, a senator, or a garbage collector.

NavyChief: "You do not have to be a natural born citizen to be a Senator, but you do to get elected President. 2 completely different criterias."

This, of course, has nothing at all to do with security clearances. You do not need to be a natural born citizen to get a security clearance. But NavyChief apparently wants to further publicize this toilet rumor that even Bill O'Reilly and Glen Beck have rejected.

NavyChief: :It is up to the applicant to disprove the allegations when a security clearance is being reviewed."

Just on the basis of common sense, I am sure that this statement by NavyChief is totally false. It is the job of the security investigators to determine if there are valid reasons for not granting a security clearance. The applicant must of course answer all questions and be cooperative, but he is not required to go to what could be a great expense to expose all of the various rumors that might be circulating from nefarious sources.
October 21, 2008

10:39 a.m.

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WestminsterJ writes:

I personally don't care whether he could or couldn't.
October 21, 2008

11:57 a.m.

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Derge writes:

Dear Ignorant fools cjc1951, grandpaw, anderson

http://news.justia.com/cases/featured...

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles...

If there is no merit to the lawsuit, why has the judge NOT dimiss the case. Why has Obama DENIED proving himself AND requested a dimissal and DELAY the lawsuit?
October 21, 2008

12:03 p.m.

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Nobama writes:

Well, I've read the book (actual court document), but here's the movie, if you dare. This would be an October Surprise if the news media had any guts at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3...
October 21, 2008

12:07 p.m.

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Nobama writes:

grandpaw writes:

"I wondered where NavyChief got the idea about security clearance. Perhaps at the Neocon Express website which also shows a concocted photo of Obama with a hammer and sickle in the background."

Let's see now. NavyChief has or had a "secret" clearance. And I've had a "secret" clearance, but you are the one questioning whether we know what we're talking about? On what basis?
October 21, 2008

1:15 p.m.

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me2 writes:

Navychief. The state department issues passports, Obama has one. You must have a valid birth certificate to get one.

Next, Obama's mother was an American citizen, right? Did the state department issue her a passport that showed her in Kenya the year Obama was born, or in Hawaii?

If an American woman has a baby out of the country, like Angelina Jolie, is the baby an American citizen?

I know the answers to these questions, but I submit them so you can do the research, say on factcheck.com or similar sites and then you will know.

It is obvious that you do not want to know, will not go to the sites that can educate you, and would not accept his birth certificate if you held it in your hands.

Now, on to Todd and Sarah and their appearance at the secessionist Alaska Independence Party conventions in '07 and '08.

Navychief, do you think they are traitors for wanting to take Alaska out of America and make it a separate country.

There is a video of Sarah wishing the AIP God's blessing and telling them to keep up the good work.

Think Todd could get high level security clearance with this in his past?

Are they unAmerican traitors, or just kidding around cause Alaska is so dull in the Winter?

I will await your answers.
October 21, 2008

1:38 p.m.

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Cody09 writes:

“…ignorant rumors, innuendo, and fear-mongering” – becca00
“…their lies and distortions” – cjc1951
“…ill-informed to talk about politics” – grandpaw
“…alleging a number of false accusations” – grandpaw
“…ludicrous statements and accusations against a candidate” – leftside
“…another conservative ploy based on lies and used as a form of fear mongering” – leftside
“…wants to further publicize this toilet rumor” – grandpaw

Can’t you guys put together an argument? Yelling “Liar!!” over and over again is not making your case no matter how eloquently you phrase it.

By the way, exrepublican – McCain was born in the Canal Zone which, at the time, was a US territory. He was born in the USA.
October 21, 2008

2:47 p.m.

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Brunowolfe writes:

NavyChief writes:

"..... There are 2 open lawsuits in Federal Court right now that concern his citizenship. One has been filed in Philadelphia and the other in Washington State. Neither lawsuit has been answered by Obama or the DNC which are both listed in the suits."

There is what in Hawaii is called a "short-form" birth certificate already provided by Obama, showing his birth place as Hawaii. One of the lawsuits was filed by a Hillary supporter who is a known nut (he believes the govt bombed the World Trade Centers on 9/11). This guys lawsuit is suing for the "long-form". the other suit I don't know about.
Amazing what these GOPidiots will hang their hats on, and the hypocritalness of their groveling arguments. You want to blast Obama for some silly accusations regarding some minor associations with Ayers, yet you'll proudly prop up some BS lawsuit regarding the form of a birth certificate by a guy who files frivalous lawsuits and firmly believes and spouts that our govt was behind 9/11????

Can't you GOPidiots do any form of self-evaluation? Or do you just keep repeating the mantras you get from the racist Limbaugh or the NOT "fair and Balanced" Faux News?
October 21, 2008

2:55 p.m.

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Brunowolfe writes:

One other thing Navy chief, instead of just repeating the nonsensical internet blog rumours, and Faux News, and Limbaugh railings and rantings by your side as fact, Why not just go to factcheck.org for the real scoop on the birthcertificate non-story?
Here's the link http://www.factcheck.org/elections-20... They put this BS to bed back in August, when the 9/11 conspiracy idiot first brought it up.

But hey, why let something like unbiased analysis or facts get in the way of grasping for anything to smear someone so your guy can win?
October 21, 2008

3:13 p.m.

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NavyChief writes:

Bottom line is anyone involved in 2 open court cases, in which they are the listed defendant, would not be able to get a security clearance.
October 21, 2008

3:22 p.m.

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Cody09 writes:

Using illegal narcotics would be grounds for denying someone a security clearance. Those who read his books know that Obama has done so.
October 21, 2008

3:46 p.m.

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becca00 writes:

@NavyChief: Hey Squiddly-Diddly, I've had "secret" and "top secret" security clearances as well. Having one does not mean that you know anything about what it takes to get one. That being said ...

First, there is no controversy regarding Obama's birth certificate. It's been fully debunked. FactCheck.org has pictures of them handling the actual document. Use the power of the Google--it works.

Second, to disprove Obama's citizenship, you'll need to offer up legitimate (emphasis on "legitimate") evidence that he was not born in the U.S. or is not a "natural born citizen of the U.S." Filing a lawsuit proves ... bupkis.

Bottom line is, civil court cases have little or no bearing on security clearance. That is what we're talking about, isn't it?

As for your two side-kicks, Clyde and Giovanni ... well, let's just say that neither of them have risen above the standard of offering more than "ignorant innuendo, rumors, and fear-mongering."
October 21, 2008

4:01 p.m.

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anderson writes:

Navy Chief, as a recruiter, I'm sure you are skilled in separating the good candidates from the poor candidates that walk into your office--separating the wheat from the chaff so to speak. HS grad, clean record, no obvious physical or mental problems. Great! Police record a mile long, 5-9, 250 pounds. Not so good. I bet you can fairly well size up a candidate the moment they walk in your door. You should apply the same skills to the stuff you read on the internet, or watch on TV, or hear on the radio. There's a lot of chaff out there.
October 21, 2008

4:04 p.m.

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Hazardous_T writes:

Considering the FACT that factcheck dot org is primarily funded by Barack Obama and William Ayers' employer, The Annenberg Foundation, it is hardly an ubiased source...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FactCheck
October 21, 2008

4:09 p.m.

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Hazardous_T writes:

One more thing.. Ever hear of Photoshop?
October 21, 2008

4:27 p.m.

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Hazardous_T writes:

Here is an interesting site...

Uganda: Citizens Form Obama Support Group

The Monitor (Kampala)

16 February 2008
Posted to the web 18 February 2008
Grace Matsiko
Kampala

Ugandans have formed a group to mobilise support for Kenyan born-senator, Barack Obama for the US presidency.

The Obama Solidarity Group (OSP) launched its campaign at Makerere University on January 18, according to one of the members.

"Our group has been formed to see that our candidate gets support from not only Americans but other parts of the world including Uganda because he is a symbol of Africa in a western democracy," Mr Silver Mulindwa, a third year student at the university, said.

"We have campaigned among the Americans working in Uganda and they have shown support for the candidate."Obama, a senator for Illinois is campaigning against US former First Lady Hillary Clinton on the Democrats ticket to become America's first black President

http://allafrica.com/stories/20080218...
October 21, 2008

4:35 p.m.

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anderson writes:

from the wiki link above, in response to HazT's claim that factcheck (a service of the Annenberg foundation) is a biased source: "The president and chairwoman of the foundation, Leonore Annenberg, born in 1918, has endorsed John McCain in the 2008 presidential election. [5]"

Of course, he offers he makes no arguments to dispute factcheck's report, just offers us smear by association--kinda like feces on a mirror in a public restroom--and more of the unending stupidity that everything is us v. them.
October 21, 2008

4:40 p.m.

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becca00 writes:

Wow, Hazardous_T. You're right! I should have seen it all along. It's all just a big conspiracy, just like those guys that all conspired to blow up the World Trade Center on 9/11 by using Photoshop to disguise cruise missiles as commercial airliners.

Seriously, though, you may want to bother educating yourself before you show up spouting some sort of lunacy.
October 21, 2008

4:45 p.m.

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becca00 writes:

Africans (Ugandans) supporting Obama? That's bad ... why? It proves ... what?

I've been back and forth to London quite a bit lately and Londoners are openly hoping that Obama wins. Does that make them as bad as the Ugandans?

Or are you just gutter-trolling for racists and xenophobes?
October 21, 2008

4:51 p.m.

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Brunowolfe writes:

Yawn......Once again GiovanniJones doens't repute the findings of unbiased Factcheck.org, nor provide any factual data, or links to such data. Just the typical "We know we are RIGHT, and everyone else who disagrees with us is WRONG!".

I am in no way "scared", but am rather comfortable with Factcheck.orgs' analysis of Obama's birth certificate, and am comfortable with my believe that Phillip Berg (Obama birth certificate lawyer) is a known nut job (9/11 views, many frivalous lawsuits, etc.).

Clearly however, YOU are scared and angry that: McCain is behind, so many GOP stallwarts (George Will, Buckley, etc.) are jumping ship, an ever increasing ratio of major newspapers are endorsing Obama, major GOP figures are coming out endorsing Obama, etc, etc.

And all that you and the McCain campaign have left is hanging your hats on Joe the (fake) Plumber (lol), mud-slinging, and some unfounded, rediculous allegations regarding Obama's birth-certificate that the most respected, unbiased analysis group, factcheck.org, has deemed as not true.

The comment about the Annenberg Foundation is yet another attempt at obfuscation. The Annenbergs are stallwart republicans.
October 21, 2008

4:51 p.m.

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Hazardous_T writes:

Would Idi Amin be proud or what? :D
October 21, 2008

4:56 p.m.

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Brunowolfe writes:

HazardousT....here's a little "fact" you conviently left out from your misleading statements regarding the Annenberg Foundation (this is straight from Wikipedia):

"The president and chairwoman of the foundation, Leonore Annenberg, born in 1918, has endorsed John McCain in the 2008 presidential election. [5]"

But hey, why let anything like actually reading the wikipedia entry you linked keep you from trying to use it to prop up your beliefs?
October 21, 2008

5:04 p.m.

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greenleaf writes:

Giovanni,

Are you notchasB? I haven't seen him posting in a while and your over the top swaggering, bluster sounds very much like him. Did you change your "handle" chas?

NavyChief,

Obama would have been thoroughly vetted by this time my friend. No one in either party would be stupid enough to foist a candidate with that kind of baggage. I expect that more disinformation and misdirection will be the strategy of the day as Republicans become more desperate. What you speak of is nothing more than that: desperation! Too many of the electorate drink shallowly at the trough of pertinent knowledge, so we can expect more propaganda and character assassination as the election nears. Instilling doubt late in the process is a cynical yet unfortunately effective strategy that Republicans have employed in the past. This is no different.

I am an independent and not really a fan of Obama, but the excesses and miscalculations of the last 8 years have convinced me that Republicans need to be tossed out this cycle. The mean spiritedness of Republican campaigns is wearing thin with many of us. Republicans treat us as though we are gullible fools. We aren't! Obama is as American as any of us and if George Bush could get a high level security clearance I'm sure Obama can too. This just isn't an issue.
October 21, 2008

5:29 p.m.

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Hazardous_T writes:

So I guess that means that Obama and Ayers were the only left wing idealogues working for Annenberg and the rest are upstanding ethical Conservatives...
October 21, 2008

5:41 p.m.

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Brunowolfe writes:

Hazardous_T writes:

"So I guess that means that Obama and Ayers were the only left wing idealogues working for Annenberg and the rest are upstanding ethical Conservatives..."

Nope, what it means is you are a rightwing GOPidiot, and you'll throw as much mud as you can hoping that something will stick, and even when people use your own links to information to show you are wrong about some slandering, you'll continue on,,,,facts be damned.

I've shown your nonsense regarding the birth certificate to be debunked by the most repected factcheck.org. I've shown your insinuations that the Annenberg Foundation is a leftist group to be false. You made allegations that the birth certificate might be photoshoped. Factcheck debunked that. I've asked you exactly WHO should check the certificate, to satisfy you. You never answered. I've told you that the guy who brought the suit is a "known nut job", you've never addressed that.

The simple facts are you've shown yourself to be incapable of debate, providing proper facts for your beliefs, nor able to recognize when you are wrong. Congrats! You are a GOP zealot and what is wrong with this country. Good for you!
October 21, 2008

5:43 p.m.

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anderson writes:

More likely it means that you are unable to reason your way out of a paper bag unless someone paints a donkey or an elephant on it.
October 21, 2008

5:46 p.m.

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anderson writes:

My last post was addressed to HazT.
October 21, 2008

6:06 p.m.

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Hazardous_T writes:

OK lets put the Obamatons to the test... :D

Name one FRIEND of Obama that he has known for at least 20 years that is not;
A; Marxist...
B; Islamic...
C; Black Theologan...
D; A democratic Senator...
E; Incarcerated...
F; Dishonest...
G; Apathetic to being thrown under the bus...
October 21, 2008

6:21 p.m.

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Hazardous_T writes:

I wonder if his friends wear Obama's tire tracks as a badge of martyrdom???
October 21, 2008

6:29 p.m.

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Hazardous_T writes:

BTW NavyChief, Thanks for your service...
October 21, 2008

6:36 p.m.

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greenleaf writes:

Hazardous,

This is one of the most ridiculous questions I have ever seen on this forum. Do you really expect a serious answer?

Obama is a man who has probably had hundreds of friends and aquaintances through the years and now he has millions who wish they could be .

Let's examine this from a different perspective, one that makes just as much sense:

Name one FRIEND of Hazardous_T that he has known for at least 20 years that is not;
A; Marxist...
B; Islamic...
C; Black Theologian...
D; A democratic Senator...
E; Incarcerated...
F; Dishonest...
G; Apathetic to being thrown under the bus.

Gee Hazardous, I can't think of any, therefore, you must be all of those things. Afterall, I know all of your friends as well as all of us know Obama's. And buddy, by the way, there's nothing fundamentally wrong with being, black, Islamic or a theologian is there? Or could it be that you are betraying your prejudices?

Please all of you Republicans, I'm prepared to be gracious and somewhat sympathetic after many of your guys lose in November, but could some of you save us the desperate garbage that you are shovelling now? I'm not even a Democrat and I think this is pathetic!
October 21, 2008

7:02 p.m.

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Hazardous_T writes:

So it's wrong to wonder who our presidential candidate's friends are? What happened to being judged by the company you keep?

From what I see Obama has spent his life surrounding himself with radicals and when they become inconvenient he throws them under the bus without complaint... Thats called Martyrdom...

Its obvious by your protest of the question that you cannot even name one Obama FRIEND who doesn't wear at least one of these tags...

A; Marxist...
B; Islamic...
C; Black Theologan...
D; A democratic Senator...
E; Incarcerated...
F; Dishonest...
G; Apathetic to being thrown under the bus...

You would think that it is a fair inquiry of someone that wants to be the POTUS...
October 21, 2008

7:42 p.m.

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greenleaf writes:

Hazardous,

My point is that I don't know ANY of Obama's actual friends anymore than I know yours Hazardous. I'm certain that he has friends from school, the neighborhoods he's lived in, the PTA and chance encounters. The people referenced lately. while they may have some association to Obama. almost certainly aren't close friends and you know that. Republicans are losing on the issues and that's what we should be talking about. I will say it again, all indications are that the Republicans are going to lose big again this year. Consider it a correction for the the last 8 years of scandals and arrogant abuse of power. The Republican party has far bigger things to worry about than who might have changed Obama's diapers (probably a black Islamic Marxist terrorist nanny, right Hazardous?). The Republican party needs better candidates, it needs to return to its core values and move more to the center and away from the evangelical right wing of the party. You guys need to retool. The fact that all you can do is come up with questions such as the one you just posed because you think it is clever isn't going to impress anyone but your partisan friends hazardous. You are preaching to a dwindling choir of individuals who are missing the point that the Republican party has some major problems to address. If we can't have a viable third party to keep the other two more in line, we need for both parties to be strong so as to balance one another. George W has nearly ruined your party and you guys better start doing something about it rather than trying to influence the rest of us to somehow think that your party knows what its doing. Obviously it doesn't! George has spent his political capital and sacrificed Republican values and credibility on the neocon alter. If you want to influence the rest of us, clean up your own house first before performing character assassination on a man you don't know. Leave that to Karl Rove( same first name as Marx Hazardous - I wonder what that might mean?) he does it better.
October 21, 2008

8:48 p.m.

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Castle writes:

You liberal Obamaites are a hoot. You've stood by your empty suit the whole thread saying that Obama dosen't need to answer questions, incure great expence, provide valid documents, ect in responce to his citizenship. Now you are the same folks who stated that if President Bush had nothing to hide he should have no problems with an impeachment trial. If Obama has nothing to hide about his citizenship status there should be no need for a lawsuit because he should just give up the info needed. Do I see a one way street here that the liberals are driving on?
October 21, 2008

9:20 p.m.

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jgd writes:

I am not sure why the Obama campaign doesn't put all of this to rest, by simply explaining why the birth certificate was issued four days after his birth and produce the hospital records stating the date of his birth. There should also be a passport record of when his mother arrived back into the country from Kenya. I can think of many ways it could be proven one way or another, and wonder why the Obama campaign doesn't do there own research, gather the documents and dispel all of these accusations.
October 21, 2008

9:45 p.m.

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coarizona writes:

could O pass a security clearance? NOPE
October 21, 2008

9:47 p.m.

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me2 writes:

My grandson has a birth certificate with the date wrong. Shucks, I guess that means he isn't really a citizen. Another one has his name spelled wrong. Oh the horror if one of them ever runs for president.

Now that you are all experts on the birth certificates of Hawaii and such, can we get to more important matters?

Can secessionist Sarah and Todd really get security clearances when they want to take Alaska out of the union?

I will miss Alaska.
October 22, 2008

8:35 a.m.

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rickg19611 writes:

becca.... Geez. You rely on a organization that was created by Obama to validate what Obama says? Not exactly an Einstein moment in intellectual brilliance for you.

How gullible can one get? Do you rely on a criminal in a jail cell to tell you whether he is guilty or not? Do you rely on an advertising executive to tell you whether the advertising he runs is accurate or not?

While I would say that many of the "scandals" involving Obama may be suspect, any rational objective observer will admit the following....

Why is Obama acting like he has something to hide when the issue about his birth certificate is brought up?

When asked about it, why was Obama's first response to hire lawyers to fight any inquiries about his place of birth?

Why doesn't Obama simply invite some news organizations to look at his birth certificate, and then the entire issue is closed?

Why does Obama only rely on his own organization to take a picture of his cronies handling a piece of paper, and then claim that is "proof" of anything?

Obama may be born in the US as he claims, but he is certainly acting like he has something to hide on the subject. And any rational, intelligent observer would admit it.
October 22, 2008

8:55 a.m.

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freemarketworks writes:

I would agree that Obama's passport probably proves his citizenship; however, there are two points that could prevent him from receiving a secret or top-secret security clearance from the Defense Security Service (DSS).

The first point is his admitted use and distribution of illegal substances. Unlike our goo-goo-eyed press, DSS Agents would be all over those drug dealing acquaintances.

Second, are Obama’s relationships with Tony Rezko and Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Wright’s well documented relationship with Louis Farrakhan and anti-American tirades along with Syrian born, Tony Rezko’s fraud, bribery and money laundering activities, would give cause for DSS Agents to dig deep.

Although there are clear guidelines for what qualifies and disqualifies an applicant, those questions of judgment and credibility are considered.
October 22, 2008

8:56 a.m.

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rickg19611 writes:

"NavyChief writes: Funny how I'm getting personal attacks. "

Get used to it. That's how it works when anyone merely asks a question of the "Dear Leader".

Obama supporters are just like North Koreans. When anyone dares to ask their "Dear Leader" a question, they go nuts and start attacking the person that asks the question.

An average guy in Ohio merely asks Obama about his tax increases, and the party apparatus goes into full blown attack mode. The guy had the audacity to make Obama appear to be something other than the manufactured image of Messiah like perfection!

The media lapdogs send out teams of "reporters" to investigate the child of "Joe the Plumber". The same media organizations that refused to check out whether John Edwards was lying to America because they were too busy, suddenly found time to investigate the life history of an average guy in Ohio who simply asked Obama a question that caused Obama to stumble for a logical answer.

Democrat party officials sent out talking points that included statements attacking the guy. Ironically, they didn't include any points that defended Obama's tax plan.

Democrat talking heads go on TV and use their time to attack the average guy endlessly, even with some attacking him about the clothes he was wearing!

And the low level irrelevant masses that occupy cyberspace operate too. Merely ask a question about why they support Obama and they go nuts.... a response similar if you were to ask a North Korean whether Kim Jung Il is human or a god.

All Obama supporters act like brainwashed North Korean hordes, just to protect their "Dear Leader".
October 31, 2008

1:08 p.m.

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PC_Bob writes:

It has been a lot of years since I had to apply for my Secret clearance, so I'm going just on memory here. It seems to me there was a question that went something like 'knowing people in the communist party or others advocating the overthrow of the American government.' Now, as I understand it, his mentor in school was a known communist and a pedophile, as well. There were quite a few others who also 'advocated the over throw of the government,' including the right reverand Wright. These alone would be enough to disqualify him. Taken in the aggregate I don't think he qualifies; too much risk for the American people.

So, now, attack me, too.
November 19, 2008

10:01 p.m.

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cashadvance writes:

I think it is part of his strategic political plan in reaching the country goal. An outline of a strong>Obama administration has begun to emerge as he wants to know all about you if you plan to work in his cabinet or staff. With all the information Obama asks in his seven-page, 63-question application, you would think the administration would have enough to perform credit repair for everyone who applies. CNN reveals a copy of the questionnaire, which requires all applicants to not only thoroughly elucidate everything they’ve done in the last 10 years or more, but also do the same for their spouse. I hope applicants do indeed get the free credit repair as part of the deal. With that, I’d like to share a few of my favorite questions… (1) Writings: Please list and, if readily available, provide a copy of each book, article, column or publication (including but not limited to any posts or comments on blogs or other Web sites) you have authored, individually or with others. Please list all aliases or “handles” you have used to communicate over the Internet. (2) Electronic communications: If you have ever sent an electronic communication, including but not limited to an E-mail, text message or instant message, that could suggest a conflict of interest or be a possible source of embarrassment to you, your family, or the President-Elect if it were made public, please describe. (3) Please provide the URL address of any Web sites that feature you in either a personal or professional capacity (e.g., Facebook, MySpace, etc.) How deep the application goes? So remember, if you plan on taking part in the Obama-Biden “Change” Administration, you’ve better get to stepping. Click to read more on <a title="What is Credit Repair?" href="http://personalmoneystore.com/moneybl... Repair</a>.

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Could Obama pass high level security clearance?

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Dwight Linkhart, Boulder

Published October 20, 2008 at 6 p.m.

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