Cutler sticks to his gun on Elway quote, maintains he has stronger arm
By Lee Rasizer, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)
Published October 15, 2008 at 10:49 p.m.
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Excluding leading receiver Brandon Marshall, who is the Broncos’ most valuable pass catcher?
Jay Cutler has been a busy man lately, his omnipresence approaching that of some political ads.
The Broncos quarterback, coming off his September award as the NFL's offensive player of the month, since has appeared on an ESPN pregame segment about his diabetes battle and was the subject of a lengthy Pardon The Interruption segment.
He was called the league's top quarterback after his hot start in a USA Today article. He soon will be the subject of columns by prominent writers Peter King of Sports Illustrated and Rick Reilly of ESPN, The Magazine.
He sat down with Marshall Faulk for NFL Network and will appear on The Best Damn Sports Show Period today.
But all those words in all those interviews combined didn't have the eye-popping quality of a story appearing in the current Sporting News in which Cutler is asked point-blank about his arm strength compared with Broncos measuring stick John Elway.
Cutler didn't hem or haw or try to escape like he's under pressure on a typical Sunday. He took the inquiry head on and shot back he had a "stronger arm than John, hands down," and he'd "bet on it against anybody's in the league."
Ever since, various outlets around the country have bandied about the subject, while Cutler has taken it all in, with some wide-eyed wonder at how much play his comments have received.
"It was hit or miss," Cutler said. "Some people agreed, some people didn't agree and some people were upset with it. It caused a little stir."
But, Cutler stressed Wednesday, there are no regrets over the statement itself.
"No, not at all," Cutler said after his weekly news conference in which he'd largely deflected the topic. "I didn't know it was going to be quite this much, and I can't be 100 percent sure that I have a stronger arm than him.
"But I'm not going to say I don't."
Cutler sticking by his gun, and guns, is part of what endears him to the organization and his teammates. Many players faced with strong reaction might shrink from the fallout. Cutler won't.
And the fact he's even comparing himself at all to such a sacrosanct figure as Elway speaks volumes to his teammates and the front office.
"He's got inner confidence," Broncos coach Mike Shanahan said. "But it's not arrogance."
"Playing with him, guys like that," Broncos receiver Brandon Stokley added.
Still, Stokley had extensive experience around Peyton Manning, whose national profile might be bigger than any current NFL quarterback. There was a post-playoff meltdown when Manning seemed to call out his offensive line, but he never compared himself to Johnny Unitas, either.
"All the good ones have that sense about themselves, even if they don't come out to the media and say it. You have to," Stokley said. "You've got to believe you're best and will get it done no matter what. What happened the game before, the good ones can just let it go and perform the next week."
Right now, Cutler and the Broncos offense are going through something of a lull heading into Monday night's game at New England against the Patriots (3-2).
Cutler ranks No. 3 in the NFL with 1,694 passing yards and fourth with 12 touchdown passes, but during the past two weeks, he's thrown for 227 and 192 yards after four consecutive 300-yard games.
"Turnovers," Cutler said simply, dismissing any defensive adjustments as a potential root cause for the dropoff. "Seven turnovers in two losses. That takes away from the time we have the ball, chances we get and opportunities to score."
The Broncos (4-2), from early in the second quarter of Sunday's loss to Jacksonville, were without their second-, third- and fourth- leading receivers, leading Cutler to fixate some, and perhaps understandably so, on Brandon Marshall.
Royal appears as if he'll be back for the Patriots practicing for the second straight week. Tony Scheffler (groin) was a limited practice participant Wednesday and his availability is more uncertain. It might be a long shot for Stokley to return off a concussion, especially with the bye week after New England.
"We can win without them. We won without 'B' the first week," Cutler said, referring to Marshall while flashing some of that outward self-confidence. "We've just got to limit our turnovers, take care of the ball and take advantage of the situations we've got."
The Broncos have been limited to an average of 17.3 points a game since a 3-0 season start in which they put up 41, 39 and 34 on the scoreboard, drawing all that attention to Cutler.
That type of production remains Cutler's expectation, regardless of recent events.
"Yeah, absolutely," he said. "Watching film, we expect to put up 30-40 points a game. That's the kind of bar we've set as an offense."
And what of the bar Cutler's set for himself?
In New England, backup quarterback Matt Cassel is being compared to Tom Brady, who's out for the season, and Cassel can't hope to repeat the record-setting performance of the league's reigning Most Valuable Player.
Cutler said he felt "sorry" for Cassel going through that scenario.
Cutler didn't exactly bring the Elway comparisons on himself - he was asked a direct question, one of many times that has been the case on the subject. But it was the first time he appeared to be so candid in his response.
"I said, 'Wow,' " Marshall said when asked his reaction the first time he caught wind of Cutler's comments. "But I'm always one where you never back down to a challenge or any receiver, and I expect him to do what he did. You want to show respect to the guys that made the game what it is today. But if that's how he feels, that's how feels."
That's why his bravado was so noteworthy: It was straight-forward in its unfiltered honesty.
And evidently, part of Cutler's DNA.
"We were joking around and stuff, sitting around. But I'm not going to take it back," Cutler said of his Elway statement, which the Hall of Famer himself didn't dismiss out of hand. "I'm going to say that I do. I'm confident in my arm. And so that's how it's going to go."
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October 15, 2008
11:18 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
I like it. Go gettem' Jay.
October 15, 2008
11:26 p.m.
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RDenver writes:
Type of player that has been missing around here since...well.. Elway!
October 16, 2008
12:01 a.m.
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SE7EN writes:
What's the big fuss. So he thinks he has a stronger arm than Elway? Did he say he's better than Elway? Did he say that he's going to smash Elway's records? Did he say that he will make Denver forget that Elway existed? No to all of the above. He just said he has a stronger arm. That's it, and who cares. What I care about is that Jay grow to be a better QB than he is now, improve on his accuracy and decision making. If he does that, then the QB position won't be a worry for another 12 years.
October 16, 2008
3:51 a.m.
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Rangerjoe1 writes:
Elway is a hero of mine, but I have plenty of room for more heros, go get'em Jay.
October 16, 2008
5:43 a.m.
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ELWAY420 writes:
I think it RULES
October 16, 2008
6:38 a.m.
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singularity99 writes:
What Cutler has is a bigger mouth and less class than Elway.
October 16, 2008
7:19 a.m.
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Lordwilliams writes:
Oh come on! In agreement with one of the posts above, he hasn't said he is better, he has said he is stronger and that is only part of the armoury of a successful QB.
He has no less class, but he simply needs that level of confidence bordering on arrogance to be the QB that can finally do the job. Look at Griese. The ghost of Elway killed him. In many ways the persona is bigger than his achievements. Therefore, Jay needs a big one of his own if he is to be given the chance to step up.
Let him do his thing, finally the replacement has arrived.
October 16, 2008
7:27 a.m.
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TXBRONC writes:
Cutler has a bigger mouth and less class than Elway? Hardly. Jay didn't say he was a better quarterback he said he has a stronger arm. Let me break that down. That's physical strength verses career accomplishments. There is Grand Canyon size difference between saying I'm a better quarterback and I have a stronger arm. John himself has said that since his retirement its like he never threw interception or lost three Super Bowls, BUT during his career many fans wouldn't let it go.
Besides that who was comparing John Elway to Craig Morton, or any other quarterback who preceded him? And please don't try to tell me people didn't think John wasn't arrogant and spoiled. I know that's not the case.
October 16, 2008
7:34 a.m.
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dilligaf writes:
It doesn't matter if it is true or not. Before Cutler can even mention his name with John's in the same sentence he needs to win some playoff games, have a lot of come backs, a couple Super Bowl wins, etc. I'm a big Cutler fan but he needs to keep his mouth shut and play football. (Good football)
October 16, 2008
7:55 a.m.
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Denverboy1 writes:
Ya know Cutler may have a STRONGER arm....But he is not close to being as on target as Elway......But then again that may just be a matter of time....They run about the same....I would like to see The Broncos let Cutler move out of the pocket..... Just like the Sundance Kid in the movie....When he was told to "Just Shoot" he could not hit a barn....But when he was able to move........and be himself..........Shannaman should allow Jay to be himself..Don't put him in a corner....Let him run and shoot.......And Mike...how about some TRICK plays....kinda spices up the pot and keeps the Defense off guard....You are way to Vanilla...on both sides of the ball...My little girl of 11 can tell what your gunna run before the ball is snapped....BE CREATIVE...are team may be young but they are willing and able.....Get em fired up before the game...You want to win...show the Team you want to win.....Have some EMOTION Mike.....after all you are Human....and so is the Team...Use what you have..don't hold back...and let the Players use what they have.....It's a game..but in the end ..it's how one feels while playing the Game that makes it worth the effort...and as a fan it's
better to see Denver be creative than just be......
October 16, 2008
8:12 a.m.
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Rutabaga writes:
I have a stronger pinky than Jay Cutler and John Elway. Want to bet? Last year I won the pinky pull race at the state fair. They tie like a 200 lb. log to your pinky and you pull it about 50 miles. Well, maybe not 50, but you pull it a long way. My pinky still hurts. Maybe Jay and John would like to try it. Hah... They couldn't, you need a real strong pinky.
Also, I think Jay and young John can both throw pretty fast. Maybe somebody should install a speedometer in one of Jay's footballs. Then we'd know how fast he is. You can't do that with John. He's an old guy now. I saw him on TV a week ago and he looked a bit creaky, like my grandfather before he fell out of his rocker and wound up in the hospital for six weeks. He's better now (my grandfather), but he sure looks older than John Elway does at this point.
October 16, 2008
8:20 a.m.
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pete10000ft writes:
go get'em jay...you got a last name that just screams steak restaurant chain....
October 16, 2008
8:27 a.m.
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TopGun writes:
Cutler's gotta a strong arm, but needs to work on the accuracy. Marshall needs to learn how to run a deep rout and shake off corners. Marshall should be able to catch a ball in double coverage, with his size and all. Don't get me wrong, these guy's are awesome, but need to work on some of their mechanics.
October 16, 2008
8:37 a.m.
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thomas_815 writes:
Oh Jay, let's not have your mouth write checks your a$$ can't cash! I remember Elway many years ago throw a rocket against the Seattle Seahawks and the DB tried to interecept it only to have the wind knocked out of him when the bullet drilled him in the gut.
The City of Denver likes you Jay but we love Elway! This city will embrace you even more if you just keep you trap shut and let your play talk.
October 16, 2008
8:41 a.m.
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AngelontheSidelines writes:
Good for you Jay, writers put you on the spot, stand on that spot. What else are you supposed to do?
October 16, 2008
9:02 a.m.
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Jojowalk writes:
Cutler needs to shut his mouth and show some respect. After he leads the Broncos to 1, count 'em 1, Super Bowl, maybe he can talk a little. After he wins his 3rd, he can start the Elway comparisons. But right now, he needs to shut up and put up! I like Jay, but I'm starting to not like his mouth. Same goes for Phillip Rivers.
October 16, 2008
9:18 a.m.
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Miseslover writes:
I’ve no doubt his arm is stronger.
That is why he consistently overthrows wide-open receivers.
This team would be 6-0 if he could hit some of those fly patterns.
October 16, 2008
9:28 a.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
What is wrong with you people? Jay NEVER, NOT ONCE said he is BETTER then Elway! NOT ONCE! He merely said he has a stronger arm. But you guys keep forming your own stories of what he stated (or didn't state). Get over yourselves already. Let Jay have his time. Quit changing what he said to suit your needs of a hero. Sheesh. Bunch of whining babies.
October 16, 2008
9:48 a.m.
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gman4013 writes:
Way to step up Cut'. Bottem line if anyone is going to come in a fill John Elway's shoes they can't be afraid to compare themselves to Elway. Brian Griese was never going to do it, nor was Jake Plummer. I don't know what was in Mike Shanahan's head on that draft day when he traded up to No. 11, but he obviously was thinking right.
Anyone that wants to say Culter has no class needs to move into 2008 and realize John Elway has retired, and if you want to see another Superbowl in Denver hang your hat on Cutler.
Now we need a strong defensive draft to put this thing over the top!!!
October 16, 2008
10:16 a.m.
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dehag24 writes:
Jay say what you want, just back it up. I really don't care if he has a stronger arm then Elway, just get wins like Elway. Hand the ball off and get a win, or throw the ball for 300+ yards, I don't care just get the win. I like Jays attitude he has a certain way that he carries himself, its refreshing, he calls out players tells them I'm showing up to play you better too.....keep up the good work!!!
GO BRONCOS!!!
October 16, 2008
10:25 a.m.
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jack_carlson writes:
Good to see that we have a quarterback who is not afraid of Elway's shadow. Halleleujah!
October 16, 2008
10:41 a.m.
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loganthegreat writes:
If Cultler had his Hall-of-Fame career before Sir John, Sir John would have said his arm is stronger than Cutler's. How many pro athletes don't think they are the best on the planet? It comes with the territory of being a pro athlete. If you don't want to hear the answer, don't ask it. I would be concerned if Cutler said his arm isn't stronger. They both have canons hanging from their shoulders and both are amazing talents. GO BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 16, 2008
10:47 a.m.
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daRock writes:
Of course his arm is stronger than Elway's. John is over 50 and Jay is a kid. Just kidding. Elway was asked about it and he just laughed. He was not offended, nor did he take the bait.
Good for Cutler! I like that kind of confidence in a QB.
October 16, 2008
11 a.m.
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Coltgm56 writes:
If you don't believe in yourself no one else will. Jay did not say he was as good or better than Elway. He simply stated he feels that his arm is stronger. Pass this confidence on to rest of the team and you will see a big jump in performance. No disrespect to John, it is actually a compliment to say Jay is starting to become the LEADER we have missed since Elway retired. Good job Jay stay confident and continue to lead. JOHN ELWAY# 1. GO BRONCOS!!
October 16, 2008
11:22 a.m.
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ScreamingEagle writes:
I would love to see Big J.C. lead the Bronco's to a Super Bowl win.
That would be putting some serious$$$ where his mouth is!!!
October 16, 2008
12:04 p.m.
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SE7EN writes:
Okay let's set the record straight. Cutler was asked a question in an interview with Sporting News and he simply answered a question. Jay didn't get out of bed and start bragging about how much better he is than Elway. He didn't call a press conference or start going off in the locker room about being better than Elway. He was asked a very specific question about whether he thinks he throws the ball harder than Elway. Jay didn't just come up with this on his own and start boasting about his arm strength. He was asked and he answered.
Elway has more class and Jay has none? Remember how much crap Eli Manning got when he refused to play for San Diego?? Okay...remember 1983 when Elway was drafted?? Didn't he threaten to play baseball for the Yankees when he was drafted by the Colts?? He demanded a trade...many people felt Elway was a spoiled brat for doing that at the time. How quickly Bronco fans forget. How classy was that?
Cutler is still a little immature. Give him a break. You all want a 3rd year Cutler, to act like a mature 15 year vet Elway. Elway wasn't exactly the poster boy of professionalism during his first few years in the league either.
October 16, 2008
12:52 p.m.
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Squatch writes:
He might have a stronger arm but Just like Elway he needs to reign it in and cant have that Brett Farve mentality (yes he has won a lot of games but also lost a lot of games). All that matter to me is Elway took the Broncos to 5 Super bowls and only had a good supporting cast in 2 of them. You have a team right now that Elway didnt have till his last 5 years so please do something with it. Lets get there Jay and we can talk.
October 16, 2008
1:28 p.m.
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chill134 writes:
Ease up, folks. Give the guy some credit for having some confidence in his arm. What do you expect him to say? "I have one of the weakest arms in the league?" He said nothing regarding his career compared to Elway's. We're simply talking arm strength.
October 16, 2008
1:50 p.m.
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TONE writes:
Man O man, can we just let it go. We starting to sound like them Greenbay fans...Favre...Favre....Favre...BLAH BLAH BLAH...
I do remember Elways X mark on the Defense chest when they try to intercept his ball. John is a legend...
But, I agree with Culter, you can not doubt yourself. You got to believe you are the one.
Look at all those before Culter, they don't believe that they are the one. He never disrespect Elway in anyway. Culter just believe in his arm.
And for those winers...I bet your were those saying 'TRADE ELWAY' also when he couldn't get it done!
Just be greatful we got Culter and not Vince Young or Matt Bencher.
October 16, 2008
1:58 p.m.
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AZBroncosFan writes:
To be honest Cutler is on pace to beat out Elways records.
I will start with Elway's second season since Cutler did not play his whole first season.
1984 Elway: 56.3 Comp Pct. 2598 yds 18 TDs 15 INTs 76.8 QB rating
2007 Cutler: 63.6 Comp Pct. 3497 yds 20 TDs 14 INTs 88.1 QB Rating
1985 Elway: 54.0 Comp Pct. 3891 yds 22 TDs 23 INTs 70.2 QB Rating
2008 Cutler SO FAR: 64.0 Comp Pct. 1694 yds 12 TDs 5 INTs 94.8 QB rating
(Stats provided by NFL.com)
I mean 2008 and Cutler is half way on the TDs to match Elways 3rd season almost half way on the yards and throws less INTs than Elway threw. So the question is, Should Cutler be comparing ONLY his arm to Elways? The Stats dont lie Cutler could be as of right now comparing his overall play to being better than Elways.
I love Elway. What he has done for the Broncos probably will never be matched even by Cutler. But sometimes Denver fans are a little to hard on their QBs. I firmly believe Cutler will win us a Super Bowl or 2. Anyone mad about Cutler saying this should just be happy that we have a QB that can match Elways confidence that he had when Elway was young. You guys all forget how cocky Elway was when he was young. But thats a good thing in a QB especially when they can back it up which I believe both Cutler and Elway can/could do.
October 16, 2008
2:02 p.m.
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Spuds writes:
Anyone remember the Elway Cross, it was a mark left on the chest of the receivers from the point of the football. That's how hard Elway could throw the ball.
I have not heard of a Cutler Cross, not yet anyway.
GO BRONCOS !
October 16, 2008
2:07 p.m.
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LarryB writes:
After Cutler made it clear he was joking around, Lombardi pressed him, and he responded that he can't be sure, but yeah, he'll stick to it.
So your headline is "Cutler sticks to his guns," as if he came out and said, "I repeat, I have a stronger arm, and that's the way it is.
Typical misleading "journalism." No wonder some are saying journalism is dead.
October 16, 2008
2:16 p.m.
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malis writes:
Strongest arm I ever saw was on a Chicago Bears QB named Bobby Douglass (I think that's the spelling) in the early 70s. Test them all on a radar gun and I'd bet on Douglass. Of course, he had only one speed--couldn't hit a touch pass to save his life (his full name might have been Bobby Overthrows-the-fullback-in-the-flat Douglass).
He's probably best remembered for setting some QB running records over a couple seasons and for being big, strong, and, well, not the brightest guy to ever play the position (short career...think he retired after trying to run over one too many middle linebackers).
October 16, 2008
2:21 p.m.
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UNV_ME writes:
Da Bears!
The REAL orange and blue!
October 16, 2008
2:44 p.m.
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malis writes:
UNV, yup, Bobby Douglass, the quintessential Bear! Good thing Brian Griese (pretty much the doppleganger of Douglass) didn't stay with them...the Fabric of the Universe was starting to tear itself apart.
October 16, 2008
2:53 p.m.
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TXBRONC writes:
I have no idea where some of you people get the idea that Jay is an inaccurate passer. He's completing over 60% of his passes. Elway did it only three times in his entire career. And please don't hand me the tired old line about the offense he was in prior to Shanahan's arrival an incomplete pass is still and incomplete pass I don't care what offense a team running.
October 16, 2008
2:58 p.m.
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TXBRONC writes:
Dilligaf, let me say it once again what you're talking about is accomplishment Jay NEVER said he was as good of quarterback as Elway. Jay said he had stronger arm than John and for crying out loud even Elway its possible.
October 16, 2008
3:30 p.m.
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jersey writes:
Stronger arm? Just like in golf.....you drive for show and putt for dough. Translation?....Touch! Neither one of them had or has shown a propensity for the latter. If it weren't for having acrobatic WR's at their disposal over the years, proficient at adapting to their far too frequent errant passes, the success they've enjoyed would have been greatly lessened. The previously anointed and his current successor should never miss an opportunity to thank the "Mastermind" for surrounding them with the previously mentioned contortionists. Bronco fans please spare me and don't shoot the messenger. Thank you.
October 16, 2008
4:51 p.m.
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Denver7 writes:
Two years from now there will probably be a new sheriff in town. How many "next Joe Montana's" has the mastermind thrown at us? If this one is going to win a superbowl he's going to need more than a strong arm. He will need a lot of help. Mastermind better get busy drafting Jerry Rice and a defense.
October 16, 2008
5:37 p.m.
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TXBRONC writes:
Jersey I'm not sure where you and some of the others who have commented here get the idea that Jay is inaccurate nothing could be further from the truth. Jay is completing well over 60% of his passes you can't tell that all because Brandon Marshall and Eddie Royal are acrobatic.
October 16, 2008
5:56 p.m.
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roger44 writes:
Jay has a good arm, no doubt, but he needs to wipe his hands better, has a tendancy to lose the football now and then. His little tantrums will get him in trouble of of these games....
October 16, 2008
6:04 p.m.
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SE7EN writes:
Jersey...LOL.. yeah... right...you sound like a jealous chief fan or something.
October 16, 2008
6:27 p.m.
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jersey writes:
TXBRONC: As for opinions they are just like earholes (clean version) we all have them. You can crunch the numbers anyway you like. I stand by what I say and if you have been watching your boys for as long as I have, 30 years now, you would see where I'm coming from. That's providing of course that you don't subscribe to the dangerous "Blind Support". Elway himself is on record having said on more than a few occasions his receivers bailed him out. I would think if anyone would know he would be the one. QB's are no different than anyone else when it comes to where their forte lies. Elway's and Cutler's were/ are arm strength and escapability. Peace.
October 16, 2008
6:56 p.m.
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jersey writes:
se7en: Jealous Chief's fan? Don't go there. Try proud SB Champion GIANTS fan. Jersey...hence the moniker.
October 16, 2008
8:28 p.m.
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TXBRONC writes:
Well Jersey I have been a fan of the Broncos for well over 30 years and having followed Elway's entire career with Broncos and having seen Jay's to this point I know what I'm talking about.
See ya.
October 16, 2008
8:43 p.m.
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Vampyre writes:
LMAO!!!!! all of you broke hoe fans seem to have forgotten elway wasn't any better than cutler early in his career. Furthermore, this talk of Super Bowl titles? elway was in how many super bowls before he was FINALLY on a winning super bowl team? Cutler has more going for him than elway will ever have going for him.
elway is a has been, and he sits in the annals of the record books. cutler is by far a much better QB than elway will ever have been, but like anything else. y'all need to sit back and let him mature. Quit expecting him to accomplish what elway did in a career in two or three years time. Cutler said that he has a stronger arm than elway. there wasn't anything in his quote or the story saying he is better than elway. hell his bench warming son is better than elway now. elway is history, get over it. quit living in the past, and start rooting, and living in the present and the future.
October 17, 2008
1:20 a.m.
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SE7EN writes:
Jersey...wow there's a revelation from Elway...giving credit to his recievers and his offensive line. I think most QBs with any notion of "Team" will always pass the buck and give credit to his teammates first. Elway did that all the time whether it be giving credit to TD, his receivers, his O-line...As his recievers and they would say that the credit goes to Elway.
You are ignorant if you downplay Elway's accomplishments and success the way you are. Not just because i'm a bronco fan, but any expert who follows/played the game will disagree with you fully.
October 17, 2008
9:22 a.m.
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TD30_HOF writes:
Cutler will never be as good as Elway--at least until he learns to line up behind the left guard once in a while....
October 17, 2008
12:03 p.m.
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Brain writes:
Jay definitely has a arm comparable to Elway's; now lets see him roll out to the right and throw 60 yds across the field to a wide open receiver like Elway did, that was deadly! Its time to roll-out Cutler a little more.
October 17, 2008
2:28 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
Brain, I agree, roll him out of the pocket more.
Denver7, Cutler isn't going anywhere. And the remark of Denver needing to get a Jerry Rice was confusing, to say the least? We have some very, very good WR's. We don't need more. Defense, on the other hand, needs work.
Jersey, your remark about Elway not having a touch pass is wrong. Elway had the ability to throw a touch pass. Unlike you, I was watching the Broncos games, week after week. You weren't. You were watching the Giants. You didn't see even a 3rd of the games, I'm sure, as many of the Broncos poster have. Nobody is "shooting the messenger", as you put it. You're just wrong.