Rip Van Winkle apparently woke up in time to register to vote

Associated Press

Published October 14, 2008 at 3:15 p.m.
Updated October 14, 2008 at 3:15 p.m.

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October 14, 2008

3:36 p.m.

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tmk50 writes:

What's next Mickey Mouse registering to vote?

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics...

I can't wait until this is all over......
October 14, 2008

3:43 p.m.

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DC82 writes:

Interesting how the Obama campaign is specifically mentioned several times in this article, and all in relation to questional behavior.
October 14, 2008

3:59 p.m.

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righty_left writes:

Ok, let's be clear, I'm for Obama, but doesn't it seem a little strange that the Obama campaign is being blamed for these fake registrations? I mean, if I was going to puff up the voter rolls, I'd use real sounding names, not stupid names, cartoon charachters, etc.

I'll invoke the conspriracy theorist arguement and suggest that covert republican operatives are probably responsible for this, trying to drag Obama's campaign further through the mud.

This is clearly self-destructive behavior and the folks at ACORN would be smarter than this, they may be registering false names, but I doubt they are registering Mickey Mouse, Rip Van Winkle, etc.

And don't argue that Obama supporters aren't smart enough to figure this out, lame rebuttal. I know you neo-cons can do better that.
October 14, 2008

4:01 p.m.

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spanisheddie writes:

you're right, DC82. not biased or anything!
October 14, 2008

4:02 p.m.

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temurlan writes:

What a mess. DC82, it's not just this story but every news story about fraudulant registrations seems to be tied back to Obama. Hmmm...he did come from the south side of Chicago...
October 14, 2008

4:02 p.m.

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tmk50 writes:

We couldn't even get a true conservative nominated, so how in the he11 do you think we could pull a 'conspiracy' off like you are suggesting?????
October 14, 2008

4:04 p.m.

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frontpage writes:

Voter registration drives are the tool which the parties use to qualify the masses (who are asses) for elections.
Really, if you ain't smart enough to recognize that to vote you need to go and register yourself, what contribution do you really have to society?

Sure every votes counts equally, but does it do anyone any good who can't find their way out of their own front door to be told to how to register their vote and consequently who to vote for? If you can answer that honestly you can see why the Dems are usually the culprits here.
October 14, 2008

4:24 p.m.

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rage_against_the_stupid writes:

Remember it's only fraud if repubicans win, it's just silly mistakes if they lose.
October 14, 2008

4:28 p.m.

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DC82 writes:

spanisheddie writes: you're right, DC82. not biased or anything!

I'm not sure if you think I was saying that in defense of Obama, but if that's what you thought that is not the case. I said it was interesting that his campaign is mentioned several times because frankly, by now it shouldn't be shocking to anyone. He has ties to several questionable people and organizations (like ACORN) yet somehow the American public and the MSM seem to be turning a blind eye or hiding the truth. They need to pay more attention to articles like these that show Obama for what he truly is. I can only hope that this deceptive behavior on the part of the Obama campaign comes back to haunt them on Nov. 4.
October 14, 2008

4:33 p.m.

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arvada_mark writes:

I think it's very telling. Very telling that the left is this desperate. You guys are borderline psychotic about NObama. You people are scary...scarier than the libs who flattened every tire in my neighborhood with a "W" sticker on it in '04 (yes, it was on election day). What ever happened to "Let the best man (& woman) win." Cheating is the act of desperation.

"Forget your personal tragedy. We are all bit@#ed from the start & you especially have to be hurt like hell before you can write seriously. But when you get the damned hurt, use it...don't cheat with it." Ernest Hemingway

“He'll cheat without scruple, who can without fear.”
Benjamin Franklin
October 14, 2008

4:43 p.m.

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spanisheddie writes:

DC82:

sarcasm doesn't translate well over the internets, i apologize. i was talking about how all this article talks about is fraudulent voter registration on the part of Obama's campaign. i was just poking fun at the RMN because it is a right-leaning newspaper and it seemed intuitively obvious to me that the article was somewhat biased, as in, "really?! voter registration fraud occurs in this country?! the republicans obviously don't do it as well!".

and if you want to bring up "questionable people and organizations", you might want to be careful bringing up Ayers (whom you did not mention specifically, but i can only intuit that you meant) and ACORN, because John McCain has had his own group of "questionable people and organizations" whom he has been involved with, ACORN included.

[from Politico.com:

Bertha Lewis, Acorn's chief organizer, said in a statement that came with the photo, "It has deeply saddened us to see Senator McCain abandon his historic support for ACORN and our efforts to support the goals of low-income Americans."

"We are sure that the extremists he is trying to get into a froth will be even more excited to learn that John McCain stood shoulder to shoulder with ACORN, at an ACORN co-sponsored event, to promote immigration reform," she said.]

the reality is, both of these men are politicians and they're going to run into and befriend at times people who down the line or in the past will be/were "questionable". shaking hands and laughing with Saddam Hussein didn't seem to hurt Donald Rumsfeld's career that much.
October 14, 2008

4:52 p.m.

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arvada_mark writes:

spanisheddie, tell me son...what is the source of this article? Scroll up buddy, there you go. And? I know, maybe the most well respect news service in the world. Apology accepted.
October 14, 2008

4:56 p.m.

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mrwiizrd writes:

"I was just poking fun at the RMN because it is a right-leaning newspaper"

Are you serious? Compare to what, The Times? Roll by foxnews.com some time, that's right-leaning reporting.
October 14, 2008

4:59 p.m.

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DC82 writes:

spanisheddie: I never said McCain was perfect. And maybe he had some association with ACORN, but he never gave them $800,000 from his campaign for voter registration (which this article was all about) and he never trained ACORN employees. Obama certainly did though.
October 14, 2008

5:25 p.m.

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mrfxx writes:

So - what scares you folks more - 6 falsified registrations or the hundreds of thousands that weren't?
October 14, 2008

5:32 p.m.

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TheDenverB writes:

actually, the post is the more traditionally "right-leaning" paper.
October 14, 2008

5:45 p.m.

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SteveC writes:

"Wayne Munster, acting director of elections for Secretary of State Mike Coffman" Is he Herman's brother?
October 14, 2008

5:57 p.m.

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spanisheddie writes:

arvada_mark writes:

spanisheddie, tell me son...what is the source of this article? Scroll up buddy, there you go. And? I know, maybe the most well respect news service in the world. Apology accepted.

dad, is that you? all kidding aside, could you please rephrase your queries? i don't understand what you're asking.

DC82 writes:

spanisheddie: I never said McCain was perfect. And maybe he had some association with ACORN, but he never gave them $800,000 from his campaign for voter registration (which this article was all about) and he never trained ACORN employees. Obama certainly did though.

yeah, i know you never said he was perfect. my point was, if you're going to point out associations with "questionable people", be fair and at least acknowledge (to begin with) that McCain isn't perfect and has done what every politician has done.

if i had my druthers, we wouldn't even be discussing this. i think it's pretty much irrelevant, especially considering the state our country is in economically. now, if you'd like to have the argument of which candidate is better suited to lead our country based on economic, foreign, educational, infrastructural, etc. policies, let's do it. those are what matter to me, not character smears on both sides.

mrwiizrd writes:

"I was just poking fun at the RMN because it is a right-leaning newspaper"

Are you serious? Compare to what, The Times? Roll by foxnews.com some time, that's right-leaning reporting.

yes, i am serious. and sure, compare it to the Times. you think they're so much better than the Post/RMN? and i would argue that Fox News is standing squarely in the right corner, not "right-leaning".

TheDenverB writes:

actually, the post is the more traditionally "right-leaning" paper.

ok, i'll take your word for it. although that doesn't mean the RMN is left-leaning.
October 14, 2008

6:06 p.m.

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arvada_mark writes:

Dude, this is not a RMN article. Does that clear it up? Ever heard of the Associated Press? I learned in 1st grade to check my sources. Public schools...Adams 12.
October 14, 2008

6:11 p.m.

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harrisj1122 writes:

This article is touching on a true and important issue. My family has personally been contacted by Obama's Campaign for Change. We have been contacted in Eagle county, and can first hand verify that they are telling people that they can register them with only the last 4 digits of a SSN.

I'll go even further to note that this occurred in a neighborhood comprised of at least 75% Hispanics and suspected of being a haven for illegal immigrants.
October 14, 2008

6:21 p.m.

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spanisheddie writes:

arvada_mark writes:

Dude, this is not a RMN article. Does that clear it up? Ever heard of the Associated Press? I learned in 1st grade to check my sources. Public schools...Adams 12.

sorry, bro. didn't see it. yes i have heard of the Associated Press. i learned in kindergarten to check my sources, so i guess i'm better than you.

public schools...kennewick school district, washington state
October 14, 2008

6:34 p.m.

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Stan_Weekes writes:

How would we even know if additional fraud is being perpetrated? It's not even a requirement to prove Citizenship....

We are being scammed at every turn by phony papers. Counterfeit docs are a huge, multimillion dollar business in Colorado. With nearly 3/4 million illegal aliens coursing the highways, job sites, schools and hospitals, the fraud is massive. And somehow it doesn't show up at the polls?

For example, I wonder how many non-citizen registered voters have admitted non-citizenship to escape a summons to jury duty?
October 14, 2008

6:42 p.m.

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arvada_mark writes:

I realize the details only matter to you if they suit your complaining. You should read up on more detials about your guy. He's certainly not god, & it's questionable at best if he is even qualified to be president. I know if you or I had the same ties to terrorists that NObama does, we wouldn't even be able to get a job at the city & county building scrubbing garbage cans.

And the fact that you have to verbally place yourself above me makes me wonder what you are trying to compensate for. Care to address that one with another non-answer?
October 14, 2008

6:51 p.m.

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Ahab337 writes:

arvada_mark writes:

I think it's very telling. Very telling that the left is this desperate.

How exactly is Obama desperate if he's leading by 9 points in the polls?
http://gallup.com/Home.aspx

If you ask me, McSame's attempt to suspend is campaign to fly back to Washington and "fix" the economic crisis was A REAL act of desperation.

You can call Obama supporters "scary," but nothing's scarier than the idea of Sarah Palin being the VP, or worse, President.

Obama/Biden '08
October 14, 2008

7:23 p.m.

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mrwiizrd writes:

"TheDenverB writes:

actually, the post is the more traditionally "right-leaning" paper."

I'll take your word for it because I know you know better than me. My comment was probably more based on the sheer volume of liberal comments seen here on a daily basis as compared to conservative ones. Which is probably more an indicator of the readership base as opposed to the views of the RMN writers.
October 14, 2008

7:44 p.m.

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joggle writes:

The point many people here are making is that people aren't perfect, at least not the ones I've met.

Thousands of people are being registered to vote. Anyone can walk up to a volunteer, fill out the form however they want, and the volunteer is required BY LAW to turn it in, no matter how stupid the applicant is. The person filling out the application has to enter a name, a driver license or last 4 digits of their social security number, and other pieces of info so that they can later be verified. Yes, there is a verification step. The whole point of the verification step is to VERIFY!

To put it another way, would you rather have Obama volunteers break the law by throwing away obviously false registration applications?
October 14, 2008

7:45 p.m.

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spanisheddie writes:

arvada_mark,

thank you for placing words in my mouth (i never said nor do i believe that Obama is "god"). i actually did answer all your questions and addressed all your points, but i see you've decided to ignore that. that's ok, i don't know you and i don't hold it against you. i know it's easy to take on a bully persona on the internets, so i'll just assume that's what you're doing.

my comment, again unfortunately, did not take on the sarcastic tone i meant for it. that's my fault and i'm not even joking. of course i don't think i'm better than you because i apparently learned to check my sources in kindergarten. it was a ridiculous statement aimed to counter your ridiculous statement about learning to check your sources in the first grade.

now, if you insist on talking about "NObama's terrorist ties", would you please elaborate about these alleged "ties" before you simply regurgitate what Fox News has told you? in advance, thank YOU for the non-answer, and may our votes cancel each other out.
October 14, 2008

7:58 p.m.

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PaleoConservative writes:

Obama was a lawyer for ACORN, he gave seminars on community organizing for ACORN, and he gave $800,000 to ACORN to use for voter registration drives. ACORN is under indictment in more than a dozen states for voter registration fraud. Oddly enough, I don't blame The Messiah for this one.

Has anybody ever considered that it might be a bad idea to pay canvassers a commission for every "person" that they "register?" There is plenty of incentive for fraud on the part of the canvassers, who may or may not even know the difference between a Democrat and a Republican. The ACORN reps that I saw standing in front of the grocery store seemed to have been somewhat chromosomally deficient.
October 14, 2008

8:52 p.m.

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daRock writes:

When Obama was an attorney for ACORN he represented them in a case in Illinois regarding Motor Voter registration. The group he opposed wanted photo IDs to register to vote. ACORN did not want any kind of ID more than a utility bill. Obama won.
October 15, 2008

8:10 a.m.

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Stan_Weekes writes:

After 20 years of deep sleep, Rip woke up to see
....the sprawl in the mountain valley's,
....wondered what happened to all the water in the streams,
....was stunned by the price of housing, food and gas
....got jammed up on I-70,
....realized the jobs had been taken by foreigners - who worked for the same wages he got when he nodded off, with most of the good paying work out sourced to China.

So, he went to get his ID updated as he needed to cash a check, had to prove who he was (made him shave his beard for the photo), motor registered to vote, and found all the candidates disgusting, with corruption at every turn. Most amazing the Banks were Socialized, his stock investments had crashed, and the gov't IOU's were something called 'trillions'.

Fortunately, his nagging wife had passed on, but his kids didn't know how to negotiate the new world order. They all were on welfare, didn't work, and had children with multiple mates.

He was so *issed off, he went back to the hollow, had a few more tankards, and went back to sleep.
October 15, 2008

10:19 a.m.

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GregoryB writes:

I've been to some Jam Band events, where there are booths set up to register voters. Sad, but the 'children' running the booths do not care if your qualified to register, they just sign on as many as they may, so the people funding them can then file multiple fraudulent votes. If Obama wins, it’s by blatant cheating and fraud, through the Tax Dollars he directed to ACORN, and the donations his campaign has made to organizations committee to collecting fraudulent votes to ‘pad’ Obama’s results.
October 15, 2008

12:11 p.m.

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RufusTFirefly writes:

Mickey Mouse, Han Solo and convicted felons are registered voters in Ohio and Florida........don't you just love it
October 15, 2008

12:43 p.m.

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arvada_mark writes:

Wasn't Kerry up by about 10 points the day of the election in '04? So, Gallup is about as useful as a you know what on your elbow.

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Rip Van Winkle apparently woke up in time to register to vote

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Published October 14, 2008 at 3:15 p.m.Updated October 14, 2008 at 3:15 p.m.

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Published October 14, 2008 at 3:15 p.m.
Updated October 14, 2008 at 3:15 p.m.