Teens held in deputy's shooting
Rocky Mountain News
Published November 19, 2008 at 8:43 a.m.
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Taylor Moudy, 19, of Castle Rock.
Photo by CBS4 News
Brandin Kreuzer, 19, of Sedalia.
Two 19-year-olds, including the son of a Denver police officer, have been arrested in the June shooting of a Douglas County sheriff's deputy.
The pair are suspects in a June 28 burglary and auto theft that ended with one or both of the suspects shooting at deputies, hitting one in the arm, said Cocha Heyden, spokeswoman for the Douglas County Sheriff's Department.
Brandin Kreuzer, 19, of Sedalia, and Taylor Moudy, 19, of Castle Rock, were being held in the Douglas County Jail.
Kreuzer is the son of veteran Denver police officer Kevin Kreuzer.
"It's not going to help him right now," said Kevin Kreuzer, who confirmed his occupation and that the suspect is his son.
"I'm very distraught over this, over my son being involved in something like this. I don't know what to believe anymore."
Kevin Kreuzer said that his son was arrested at their home Tuesday and he hasn't been able to talk to him since.
"I'm the father - I wish I did know, but no one has told me anything, I'm not being told anything," he said.
He said he didn't want to talk about his son until he learns more.
"I don't know what to say," he said. "I can't believe this is happening. I don't know what has happened yet, and I'm waiting to hear the whole story."
Douglas County Sheriff David Weaver said he believes that the two suspects also are responsible for a June 11 armed robbery at the Circle K Convenience Store in Castle Rock and other burglaries and car thefts starting in May.
Weaver and Castle Rock Police Chief Tony Lane will discuss the case at a news conference today at the Justice Center in Castle Rock.
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November 19, 2008
8:59 a.m.
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mexcellent writes:
Are they legal?
November 19, 2008
9:02 a.m.
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elkman writes:
What a racist question.
November 19, 2008
9:19 a.m.
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theairdog writes:
I don't know if they are legal, but at least one of them is Mouldy.
:-)
November 19, 2008
9:21 a.m.
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UncleZancle writes:
The point is, what they did was illegal. They respect neither law nor life nor property. Funny how all three go hand in hand.
November 19, 2008
9:21 a.m.
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elkman writes:
Its sometimes pretty hard to tell when someone is being sarcastic. You cannot see their face or hear their tone. Maybe if they simply put "sarcasim intended", it would be a little more obvious. Or maybe it wasn't scarcasim at all?
November 19, 2008
9:21 a.m.
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CaptainObvious writes:
Doesn't matter where they're from, they're lucky to be alive. Not too many people who shoot at the police get to walk around after doing so.
(BTW, I don't have a problem with that--it's just the thinning of the herd as they say.)
November 19, 2008
9:23 a.m.
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wyhammertime writes:
Public hanging at noon town square is good for theses two it might set a good example ya think ????
November 19, 2008
9:24 a.m.
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AC writes:
mexcellent is just having fun at the racists' expense. Luv it. Great comment!
November 19, 2008
9:33 a.m.
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STR8SHTR writes:
@ MEXICELLENT, funny post, I see where you are coming from....I always get upset everytime an article is posted about someone of Hispanic Descent...it's seems to give "Certain Ethnic Groups" the right to lash out Rasict remarks or feelings about Mexicans....But when the shoe is on the other foot, all of a sudden it's not so funny to them. GREAT POST
November 19, 2008
9:33 a.m.
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Prism writes:
From the sounds of it, They could be illegals
One from Germany and other from England or Ireland
If you were to base that off their names...but anyone
that doesn't know that should maybe do some research??
It's just a thought.
November 19, 2008
10:06 a.m.
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fifty writes:
Some may see the shooting of the officer in the arm as a positive thing because these two will be removed from the streets for a longer amount of time, thus reducing the risk of a future officer death.
November 19, 2008
10:42 a.m.
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Fancy_chance writes:
From their names I think they may be of European descent - being their ancestors came to the country illegally back in the day these two and their families are probably illegal - send them all back to Europe!!
November 19, 2008
11:25 a.m.
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redhead68 writes:
Could this be the same Taylor Moudy of Castle Rock who won a 4-H scholarship earlier this year? The write-up in YourHub describes his primary interests as shooting sports. Hmmm, that's interesting.
November 19, 2008
12:44 p.m.
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Dick_Tater writes:
Their parents must be so proud.
November 19, 2008
1:03 p.m.
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philvysor writes:
Send the 2 of them to Mexico for awhile lets see them shoot at the Feds there. I guarantee they will vanish real quick.
November 19, 2008
1:49 p.m.
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infidel91 writes:
We need to expel all the citizens and legal immigrants from Douglas County before one of them kills again!
November 19, 2008
1:50 p.m.
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infidel91 writes:
er . . . shoots again.
November 19, 2008
2:02 p.m.
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philvysor writes:
Whats wrong MX why not deport these two Like the illegal immigrants you go on & on about?
November 19, 2008
2:19 p.m.
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philvysor writes:
YEs, but if we send them to Mexico We won't have to pay for them and their prison cells.
November 19, 2008
2:20 p.m.
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sheepherder writes:
If the coppers would have shot them, the public outcry about our thug police force brutalizing the fine 4-H boys would be out of hand!
November 19, 2008
2:32 p.m.
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sheepherder writes:
mx...hha ha!
Where is Punnisher? I want to hear about how the KKK loving, jack booted, police state loving, fear mongering Deputy deserved to get shot!
November 19, 2008
2:44 p.m.
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sheepherder writes:
MAMA, my grandfather was a LEGAL immigrant from Germany, then went back as a U.S. soldier to fight them! Vie gates!
November 19, 2008
3:06 p.m.
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philvysor writes:
I don't think the cop should be shot, but if we could just tase him for awhile that would be fun!
November 19, 2008
3:31 p.m.
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sheepherder writes:
Cops get tazed in training all the time!
mx...didnt hurt that they spoke German!
November 19, 2008
3:53 p.m.
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philvysor writes:
sheepherder, but let one of us hold the button for awhile.
November 19, 2008
3:55 p.m.
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sheepherder writes:
Lol phil! Ummmm, no....
November 19, 2008
6:49 p.m.
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Chikkifish writes:
This is a shame. I know both of these boys very well... Anybody who knows them would be able to testify that they never could've seen this coming. Taylor is a fine boy, he was in some of my AP classes and was always very smart. He always said he was going to go into the navy. He wants (wanted) to be a pilot. Brandin lives just down the street from me. We've hung out a few times and he was always very fun and friendly. I've never seen him be overtly mean to anybody... Very nice guy. His parents are great people, too. His mother takes very good care of her horses, and I see her riding them up and down my road on nice days. His father is a police officer, coincidentally enough.
I would urge everyone who reads this article to not jump to conclusions about these boys. Yes, it is apalling what they have done, but don't assume that they've always been this way. Oh, and no. Neither of them are illegals. They are good, solid, American boys. Turn it around a bit, and what does that tell you about society these days?
November 19, 2008
6:50 p.m.
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4H writes:
Personally I don't believe you all should be having so much fun. After reading your comments I was extremely disappointed in the society in which I live. I personally know one of the accused. Yes they're white Americans. Actually the suspect I know was going to join the marines. He was one of the nicest and most dedicated kids I knew. I shared classes with him and a 4-H career with him. Anyone who knows him would be as shocked as I to hear this news. It is totally out of character. I feel people should think before they say something so unnecessary.
November 19, 2008
11:12 p.m.
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AC writes:
So, Chikkifish and 4H, what is your explanation for this behavior?
November 19, 2008
11:27 p.m.
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canitalk writes:
i hate the predjudice (spelling) here, remember at one time Colorado was Mexico? We've been around a long, long time, leagally.
November 19, 2008
11:31 p.m.
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Chikkifish writes:
It's called desensitization. I sat with both Brandin and Taylor one night while they, my brother, and a few other good ol' boys shot and killed eachother numerous times on, you guessed it, Halo. When one would kill the other, they'd laugh and high-five eachother in their respective teams, and it seemed innocent enough at the time... Put that with all the other media-depicted violence on the market, and you've got one hell of a problem for young men with little positive influence and too much time with electronics.
I've played paintball with them several times. They used to come to my property in the summers, because we've got big trees and dense scruboak. There's something exhilarating to young men about pointing and shooting eachother with weapons, harmless paintballs or not. This adds to the desensitization of violence- once a person has engaged in a similar activity, they are much more likely to engage in an activity of the same sort.
Taylor wanted to be a marine. This is to say that he idolized the good men of our country whose job it is to bear arms. Whether or not the image is a positive one, the motif of weaponry and violence is ever-present.
Brandin's father is a well-respected Denver police officer, who only 4 years ago was shot in the arm by a man. Brandin's desensitisation is doubled by his exposure to the accounts of his father's experience in the field.
This is just my insight and you are certainly free to reject anything I've said.
November 19, 2008
11:51 p.m.
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Really writes:
Interesting.. The father, Kevin Kruezer, was the Denver officer that was shot on a traffic stop several years ago....
http://cbs4denver.com/local/Kevin.Kre...
November 19, 2008
11:59 p.m.
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EZBakeOven writes:
The truth is, there may never be an understanding of why these young men chose this path. Perhaps only a psychiatrist can sort it out. It's just such a waste of opportunity and promise, and to piss it all away, for what? To pretend to be bada$$es in the 'burbs? In any event, I believe they deserve the max, including attempted murder on the police officer.
November 20, 2008
6:36 a.m.
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CaptainObvious writes:
Chikki, thanks for your input. While I don't buy the video-game-as-desensitizing-agent excuse, it's very interesting to read your perspective after reading the story. Unlike the glory-hounds who often come on the forums and claim to know someone from a story, it sounds like you truly do know these two. Are you their age? I only ask because you are pretty well-spoken for a teenager. Regardless, it sounds like these two are going to need all the support their friends and family can provide.
November 20, 2008
8:16 a.m.
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sheepherder writes:
Why is it, the "I never saw it coming, they were sooo nice" crew comes out of the woodwork everytime some psycho gets arrested?
I'll tell you why, psychos are generally manipulative people who everyone thinks is "such a nice person" right up until their skeletons come out of the closet.
November 20, 2008
9:11 a.m.
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buffsblg writes:
Now, years after Columbine, we are still facing the underlying question. How can kids with most of societies advantages still turn to violence and crime? Some will blame society, some will blame the parents, some video games, some basic DNA. The scary part is that in many cases we do not and perhaps cannot ever trace some easy or direct cause. People who do monstrous things usually do not look like monsters.
November 20, 2008
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riosmom6 writes:
It took four months because this isn't CSI. Not everything is solved in 60 minutes.
November 20, 2008
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Devil_Dog writes:
Chikkifish writes:
It's called desensitization
BS Excuses are like A**holes everyone has one. When I was a kid we didn't have video games but we had toy cap guns and bows and arrows and wooden swords and... We played all day and into the night during the summer and "killed each other thousands of times. All of us KNEW it was PRETEND!
Grow up and take responsibility for your actions! If these two did this they are going to be held responsible, tough lesson, should've learned it sooner and less painfully. Hopefully their friends will witness this and do a little growing up. Not make such stupid excuses.