Viewing E.T. film, expert is a believer
By Daniel J. Chacon, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)
Originally published 12:15 p.m., May 29, 2008
Updated 01:15 a.m., May 30, 2008
The Colorado Film School instructor who analyzed a video that purportedly shows a space alien swears the footage is real.
"There is no doubt in my mind that (Stan Romanek, a Colorado native who has reported UFO sightings,) did not post-produce this material. In other words, it's not a trick done in special effects," Jerry Hofmann, a professional film editor with more than 30 years of experience, said Thursday. "I have equipment that will test to see if that shot was recorded originally on that tape, which it was," he said.
However, Hofmann said there's no way for him to know whether or not the little gray alien, which was videotaped peeping through a window, is the real thing.
But Hofmann thinks it is.
"The chances are that we are not alone," he said. "That's the conclusion I've come to."
Hofmann, a Colorado Springs native who used to work in the Los Angeles film industry, said Romanek doesn't have the resources to videotape something so elaborate.
"He kept the camera handy, and he saw this little gray (alien) running around his house. He saw it, so he got the camera out," Hofmann said. "The thing is about 4 feet tall. The only thing that shows up in the video is his head. It pops up from underneath a window. But his eyes blink. His cheeks move. He turns his head side-to-side. This would be a very elaborate puppet."
Hofmann said people who work in Hollywood animatronics have seen the video, and he said that such an elaborate puppet would cost around $50,000.
"The guy (Romanek) lives on a freaking government pension," Hofmann said. "He's got a wife and three kids. He doesn't have money. I just don't think he faked this. I think what we got here is the real thing."
Hofmann said he had never heard about Romanek until he was approached last July to analyze the video. Hofmann, 57, who has been married for 35 years to his college sweetheart and has two grown children, said he used to be a skeptic about space aliens.
"My whole view has totally changed," he said. "There's something going on."
chacond@RockyMountainNews.com or 303-954-5099
May 29, 2008
12:21 p.m.
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MarineGrunt writes:
Till I see it.. I will with hold judgment!
May 29, 2008
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JTTAAB writes:
Did he film it on October 31 ??
May 29, 2008
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dantooine04 writes:
If there are beings in the universe that have technology advanced enough to travel here (unnoticed, at that), they certainly would not be traipsing through neighborhoods peeking in windows and running through houses.
May 29, 2008
12:38 p.m.
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MarineGrunt writes:
My guess... they support Illegal Aliens coming to America!
May 29, 2008
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Devil_Dog writes:
midnight_NAMBLA
You should be more worried about "that special kind of alien love" they have for you.
May 29, 2008
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k0co_5k0co_5 writes:
We need bi-lingual Alien-English classes so that they can gracefully assimilate into our culture and gain a place among our workforce. I hear they're great gardeners and kitchen workers.
May 29, 2008
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May 29, 2008
12:51 p.m.
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superbad writes:
Here's a guy who needs a lesson in Occam's razor. When you see a film of something peeking in a window, the simplest explanation is not that a sentient being has used advanced technology to travel many light years to see what some dude is cooking for dinner.
May 29, 2008
12:54 p.m.
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ColoradoDave writes:
Okay so the Rocky has descended from the New York Post to National Inquirer. Is Weekly World News next?
What a waste of newsprint.
May 29, 2008
1 p.m.
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hamilton76 writes:
space aliens are for real! i distinctly remember drinking 4 bottles of scotch one night with my dog and seeing a large space ship that looked similar to a whooping crane crash in our back yard. and yes sir, out came these men in blue uniforms and stuff and tied me up. it was like an out of body experience. i later woke up in the county jail and was told i was found nude running down the freeway. how do you explain that? clearly the whooping crane dragged me into space with there whopping crane jaws and examined me something horrible! fortunately i don't believe they found me to be a suitable human to mix our races with thus they rejected me.
May 29, 2008
1:31 p.m.
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Diff writes:
What if ...
It is real?
I doubt it ...
but it is an interesting exercise to think for while-
What if there are beings from another world visiting earth?
May 29, 2008
1:35 p.m.
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tsull12200 writes:
Its a pretty big universe, anything is possible. I saw something in the sky some years ago, I and the others around me have no explanation for. Was it alien or human? No idea. So, for this info to make it into the "mainstream" press, maybe there is some validity to it. We shall soon see. For all of you who are mocking this article, I'm sure you are still eager for the reaction to the tape tomorrow.
May 29, 2008
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Domino writes:
Colorado Dave, the Weekly World News is no longer. Don't you buy groceries?
May 29, 2008
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ezekiel777 writes:
"He kept the camera handy, and he saw this little gray (alien) running around his house. He saw it so he got the camera out," Hofmann said. "The thing is about 4 feet tall. The only thing that shows up in the video is his head. It pops up from underneath a window. But his eyes blink. His cheeks move. He turns his head side-to-side. This would be a very elaborate puppet."
where's AFV when you need it. this would steal the show....maybe even get the $10,000.00 prize.... but those shots below the belt are some tough competition.
May 29, 2008
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wireguy writes:
I suggest you listen to testimony others and the astronauts themselves. See and listen these recent documentaries on YOUTUBE.COM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNymk6... (CNN: Phoenix area UFO's)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oPxYz... (National Press Club)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5JOP_... (see Out of the Blue 1 thru 8)
http://www.hyper.net/ufo/summary.html
My theory -
" You either got belief or unbelief.. and there's no neutral ground.. you gotta serve somebody."- B. Dylan
May 29, 2008
1:46 p.m.
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T1anda writes:
Oh why, Oh why, can't the aliens be 12 ft tall and totally beautiful or handsome?? Then we could say "take me to your ladder I will see your leader later!!"
May 29, 2008
1:50 p.m.
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welc1713 writes:
Closed minded people. I'm not saying the video is real, but you all really think we're alone in the whole freaking universe? Also, all of you that are using this article to make racist jokes about illegal immigration need to get a life. You think that gas is expensive wait til you have to pay $5 for a head of lettuce when we have to pay "Americans" to pick crops. Wait a second...Mexican immigrants are Americans since they live in North America which is part of the Americas. I guess you'll have to come up with another name for yourselves, like Irish-American, German-American, Italian-American, etc. since WE ARE ALL DESCENDANTS OF IMMIGRANTS UNLESS YOU ARE NATIVE AMERICAN. Get off your high horse and realize they are coming here for a better life, just like your ancestors probably did.
May 29, 2008
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sunshinestate writes:
AM radio talk show hosts from all around the country (and maybe the universe??) are picking up this oh so important news item....way to go colorful Clorado! Better to be in the news over this than the impending landscape transition/energy development episodes.
May 29, 2008
2:04 p.m.
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EnlightenedCracker writes:
Who cares about all that- If they are real and in fact did streak across the ether to arrive here on our humble little rock, the very first question we need to ask them is:
What do you guys use instead of fossil fuel and where can we get some.
May 29, 2008
2:17 p.m.
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Mike1969 writes:
Lets just hope it doesn’t have anchor babies on US Soil or we will have to start providing welfare, medical, food stamps etc to the “Extra Terrestrial Americans” and educating their space invader offspring in some intergalactic language.
May 29, 2008
2:18 p.m.
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DahmersCookbook writes:
Fossil fuel, no way. How about, can you guys get your hands/appendages or whatever on some real moonshine or something to the equivalent, space dust...huh? My hopes are they haven't evolved beyond liquid recreation, and like to toss some on their tonsils as well.
May 29, 2008
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cpd writes:
Forrest Gump's mama said, "stupid is as stupid does". Guess I'm stupid reading these posts. Doesn't anybody have a job?
May 29, 2008
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RUKidding writes:
They are already among us. How would we know eggs are people and stuff like that without that advanced alien knowledge?
May 29, 2008
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Devil_Dog writes:
MarineGrunt
Every day that I wake up and I'm not breathing dirt is a good day.
Which is more than I can say for midnight_NAMBLA, aka little green nuts, if I ever catch him around my little girl.
Semper Fi
May 29, 2008
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Devil_Dog writes:
welc1713
My ancestors did it legally.
May 29, 2008
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riosmom6 writes:
devil_dog - Chances are you won't find NAMBLA around your little girl. I'm worried about our sons, though.
May 29, 2008
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dilligaf writes:
Doug Bruce will call these guys peasants and Bush will want to build a fence to keep them out. And of course Earl will say they are collecting social security.
May 29, 2008
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Dan2 writes:
welc1713,
Anyone born in the United States is a "native American," and American is accepted world wide to describe a citizen of the United States. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Also, American Indians typically identify themselves with their specific nation (Cherokee, Ojibwa, Navajo, etc..) and not with a politically correct (or at least in the minds of those "progressives" that insist on labeling groups of people) term to categorize in the most general of terms, an entire society.
May 29, 2008
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mytwosense writes:
Mike1969: "Lets just hope it doesn’t have anchor babies on US Soil or we will have to start providing welfare, medical, food stamps etc to the “Extra Terrestrial Americans” and educating their space invader offspring in some intergalactic language."
Let's also hope they're not here to catch Earthlings and drag them back up to their planet to work for slave wages. And if they do - hopefully they provide welfare, medical, food stamps, and access to their schools.
Oh - and let us hope they also catch Tom Tancredo, Doug Bruce, and Mike1969.
May 29, 2008
3:27 p.m.
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temurlan writes:
Let's say that the video is real and it really was an alien. What exactly is the purpose of the proposed commission. Establishing contact? Planning for the first formal contact? Investigations?
Just curious.
May 29, 2008
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Shaggy writes:
temurlan,
It is all about profiting and taxing the American people for a false hoax.
Just like man made global warming is all about.
May 29, 2008
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ColoradoDave writes:
Domino,
The Weekly World News is no more? I did not know that but I guess that is why I can't remember seeing it for awhile now.
Why would people intelligent enough to travel across the vastness of interstellar space get to Earth and become Peeping Toms?
May 29, 2008
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May 29, 2008
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Devil_Dog writes:
mytwosense
What?
May 29, 2008
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elkman writes:
Right on temurlan, on both counts.
My problem with the whole alien thing, is where is the actual proof? It would seem that every country in the whole world would have to be involved in witholding the truth from people. That is really hard to believe. It's like "bigfoot". All this fuss, but never one hard piece of evidence.
May 29, 2008
4:16 p.m.
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Acemon writes:
Yeah, that lil' alien was the real thing, an' he wuz wearin' the ruby slippers that Judy Garland used in The Wizard of Oz when she got dragged off by them flyin' monkey things! You c'n believe it cuz my daddy wuz drinkin' some good moonshine 'back of an' old Ford truck an' saw it all. Honest!
May 29, 2008
4:37 p.m.
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oofda writes:
A peeping Alien, come on. thats what they do with their time. Come on Stan, Just like War of the worlds they use 50 foot television cameras.
May 29, 2008
4:42 p.m.
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bugmenot writes:
That was no alien, that was former Democratic Presidential Candidate Dennis Kucinich wearing one of Hillary's discarded Pant suits on his way home from the premiere of Sex in the City
May 29, 2008
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rururuland writes:
They are here have been for some time. This is not a big deal.
May 29, 2008
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arvada_mark writes:
It is pretty narrow minded to think we are the only living organisms in this endless universe. Now, whether or not they are intelligent, or give two f#$@s about us is a different story. I want to see the video. I can tell you already, though, I don't think it's real...it just sounds too human to me...it's called a Peeping Tom, not Peeping ET.
May 29, 2008
4:52 p.m.
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rururuland writes:
Elkman, hard evidence exists. The public doesn't have acess to it.
May 29, 2008
4:52 p.m.
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Charles_B writes:
Hilarious. Global Warming deniers comparing skepticism about the claims of some crackpot with grainy film of a supposed alien peeking in his window to their AGW denial despite the vast sea of scientific evidence and study indicating that it is a problem.
It's almost as pathetic as all the immigrant bashers using the story to crudely announce their bigotry.
This hoax will end like all hoaxes--with someone pocketing a lot of cash and a bunch of empty pocketed rubes quelling their shame by chasing the next hustler down the street.
Darwin doing his work.
May 29, 2008
4:54 p.m.
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rururuland writes:
Charles you are clearly ignorant of this issue, I suggest you stay out of it.
May 29, 2008
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Arioch writes:
I don't consider it impossible, but I see it as quite unlikely. Of course, maybe he plugged some different numbers into Drake's Equation and is much more optimistic than I am.
http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious/...
May 29, 2008
5:17 p.m.
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Charles_B writes:
rururuland:
I suggest you purchase all the inevitable made-in-China merchandising with an advance on your next paycheck.
'Cause garsh, issa gonna be werf sumfin sum day.
May 29, 2008
5:22 p.m.
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Houstongolfnut writes:
The big debate between the Marxists and the rest of us is about to shift to "is the Earth cooling or warming?" Either way, the Marxists will claim that humans are the cause.
May 29, 2008
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areader writes:
"Swing away Merrill... Merrill, swing away!"
May 29, 2008
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Ahab337 writes:
areader lol
May 29, 2008
6:45 p.m.
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Alive writes:
Why would someone bother to travel through space and time, across these vast distances just to peek in someones window? Wouldn't they have technology for that?
This also begs the question why do so many alien "abductees" say they are violated anally? Is pooper peeking especially rich in science?
Seems like a lot of effort just to act like an ordinary earthbound perv.
Even time travelers would have better things to do it seems.
May 29, 2008
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HolierThanThou writes:
I like to invite pretty Earth women to come up to my mountain and watch the UFO races.
I will gladly barbecue some surgically mutilated cattle for them.
May 29, 2008
7:07 p.m.
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Alive writes:
I do not doubt that there is life elsewhere in the universe, but actually traveling between star systems presents some very daunting challenges. As we currently understand, as velocity increases, so does mass. As mass increases it takes more energy accelerate it.
As one approaches the speed of light, all kinds of survival issues come up as well. In other words, it seems extremely difficult if not impossible to accelerate any thing resembling a spaceship to the speed of light. The nearest star to our own is about 4 years away at the speed of light. Wow!
But, I know that we humans have a LOT to learn, so who is to say what's possible?
I like to think that the civilizations more advanced than us (If we are not the first "civilization" in the universe.) communicate using a medium we currently cannot modulate or even detect. This medium could be using the principles of quantum mechanics which we are currently just starting to understand. You know, "spooky" particle coupling ans stuff like that.
Perhaps such civilizations never travel "in person" but share information in such quantities that a "shared consciousness" might exist.
Hell who knows, but four foot all dudes peeking into windows? Hummmm.
May 29, 2008
7:17 p.m.
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peachykeen writes:
I'd suggest you all read the literature on this phenomenon... it's compelling. The fact that there are 6 billion stars in the Milky Way, and billions of galaxies leads me to think it's a lot of wasted space if it's not inhabited by other life...
Look how far we've come technologically in just the past 100 years. 500 years ago we thought the world was flat.
How much further could an intelligent species have come technologically if they are, say, a billion years older than humans? I'd think this is possible considering the the age of the universe, right?
The Vatican has announced that they believe it's quite possible, and doesn't contradict the Bible at all.
I'm not sure how much the current NASA mission to Mars costs, however the main purpose of the mission is to determine if there has been life on Mars... seems the scientists among us feel it's a strong enough possibility to spend the millions on this hypothesis.
Noted persons, such as Jimmy Carter, Several astronauts, Air Force personnel, police, people from all walks of life in fact, have all come forward in the recent past and said they've seen UFO's.
May 29, 2008
7:53 p.m.
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Sigmond writes:
Who could dispute the findings and analysis of a Film School instructor? OF COURSE there are aliens from other planets visiting Earth. Are you all naive or what? Most of them are microscopic in size so naturally you can't see them. This one in the film is probably a bigger than normal alien just like some earthlings are bigger than others.
May 29, 2008
7:56 p.m.
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blacksho89 writes:
Actually, the number of star systems with potentially habitable planets is quite small. Spiral galaxies provide the best protection for planets from radiation and stars without fixed orbits. Spiral galaxies are 1-2 percent of total. A Yellow Dwarf sun such as Sol is about 90th percentile, and our Sun has a stable orbit, keeping it away from the dangerous arms of the spiral. The Moon we have keeps Earth's axis stable, preventing wild swings in temperature that would kill life. The gas giants absorb the vast majority of asteroidal hits, such as the one speculated to have killed the dinosaurs. If the Earth were slightly more massive, gravity would "smooth" out the topography, putting us all under water. Our oxygen concentration is about 21 percent. At 17 percent, consciousness becomes a difficult task; at 15 percent, mammalian life is impossible; at 25 percent, spontaneous combustion is a dire threat.
All in all, Earth is a pretty special place.
May 29, 2008
8:12 p.m.
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arby writes:
As has been said before on this post. If the aliens are smart enough to get here why would they mess around with a bunch of dummies that can't even come up with a common language or coherent world wide goals?
I think we are the zoo and don't realize it. The alien was a kid peeking at the zoo exhibits. That's why he is so short.
May 29, 2008
8:13 p.m.
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Alive writes:
blacksho89,
Very good points indeed. I have never thought about how our gas giants protect us from impacts. But then again, I work in IT not astronomy. I don't know if you work in the field, but you should if you don't.
May 29, 2008
10:28 p.m.
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happymike44 writes:
Thank goodess I stocked up on bottled water and tin foil.I want to remain hydrated and mind control free.Does this water taste funny wonder howlong my deer jerky will last.By the way glad I stocked up on alien be gone bug spray.Wonder if we get a copy of to serve man.I hear some of the recipes are pretty good.Well here is to the alien overlords and hope they are not into anal probing and body scans.
May 29, 2008
11:19 p.m.
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clyde writes:
There are hundreds of them pretending to be human in a public building in Washington, DC.
I also hear that they're good slow-roasted and served with salsa and a touch of lemon butter.
May 29, 2008
11:20 p.m.
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an_artist writes:
my question is, why is this the big story on rmn.com? aren't there more important, pressing issues that the rocky can be putting on its big pane? honestly.
May 29, 2008
11:46 p.m.
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shotbus writes:
Love it!
hamilton76 on May 29, 2008 at 1 p.m.
space aliens are for real! i distinctly remember drinking 4 bottles of scotch one night with my dog and seeing a large space ship that looked similar to a whooping crane crash in our back yard. and yes sir, out came these men in blue uniforms and stuff and tied me up. it was like an out of body experience. i later woke up in the county jail and was told i was found nude running down the freeway. how do you explain that? clearly the whooping crane dragged me into space with there whopping crane jaws and examined me something horrible! fortunately i don't believe they found me to be a suitable human to mix our races with thus they rejected me.
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As for myself, I personally believe that these aliens should be deported. There are far too many illegal aliens here already and until each and every one can pass the citizenship requirements of our great nation then all should phone home and say they will be home for supper.
May 30, 2008
12:48 a.m.
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MystrEye writes:
USAliens
May 30, 2008
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longpasttime writes:
It looks like we are going to need that commission sooner than we thought!
May 30, 2008
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elkman writes:
rururuland:
And the evidence is?
May 30, 2008
6:39 a.m.
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elkman writes:
rururuland:
What a cover up! The whole world has been lied to. And to what end does that serve? If they are really out there, lets invite them to give us their technology. The only one in outer space is you!
May 30, 2008
8:21 a.m.
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ohsweetmelanie writes:
LMAO, Hamilton76. That's just funny... I don't care what anyone says!
Hey Diff, if you want a brain excersize, watch LOST. Obvioulsy not based on a true story but at least ya know it's not true.
All, don't you think if aliens were going to come to Earth (and don't get me wrong, I DO NOT believe we're the only life form in the universe), we would see a lot more of it/hear a lot more about it. There's only so much you can keep secret. If politians can't keep their sex lives secret, I'm gonna go ahead and guess that aliens coming to Earth, wouldn't continue to be a secret after ALL the years of humanity!!!
May 30, 2008
9:02 a.m.
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texana writes:
Good lord, now the guy won't show it to the general public or allow it to be rebroadcast because he's including it in a documentary? Hi. My name is misinformation and I believe you called.
I think either Hofman was involved in the production and financing of this video or this is all a joke on Hofmann and Hollywood since they think there's no way anyone in the world could create movie magic without $50,000 when apparently they can and they can trick educated film people into thinking homemade puppets are real. The guy probably spent $12 on material, his wife made a costume, and one of his kids ran around the house in gray paint to pull this off. The whole thing is kind of funny when you think that people are actually buying it.
May 30, 2008
9:22 a.m.
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Sigmond writes:
People normally videotape a window in their home just in case an alien happens to peek in. We do that in our home and we're normal.
May 30, 2008
9:32 a.m.
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undergo writes:
the video is a hoax. You can see it here:
http://www.rockymountainparanormal.co...
May 30, 2008
10:04 a.m.
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timtimes writes:
Expect sales of corks to go up 400%
May 30, 2008
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alwaysright writes:
Hey Thanks every one for the great reading, Think I might get something done today. ( After I quit laughing ) Been real. LATER.
May 30, 2008
10:36 a.m.
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nobodyman writes:
An alien was running around his house and he picked up a camera instead of a firearm? Now I know he's crazy.
May 30, 2008
10:39 a.m.
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Sigmond writes:
"Honey, get the video camera and set it up aimed at the front door. Just in case a space alien decides to ring the doorbell. Leave a plate of cookies outside the door, too, just in case he may be hungry."
May 30, 2008
10:42 a.m.
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CL writes:
blacksho89 -
>>Actually, the number of star systems with potentially habitable planets is quite small.<<
Even with your erroneous reasons, you are still looking at something on the order of tens to hundreds of billions of "potentially habitable planets".
>>Spiral galaxies provide the best protection for planets from radiation and stars without fixed orbits.
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and our Sun has a stable orbit, keeping it away from the dangerous arms of the spiral.<<
Wrong - our sun is >>>in<<< the Orion arm of the Milky Way. What make you think spiral galaxies offer the best protection? Most elliptical galaxies are much less active than spirals - less radiation and fewer stars going in different directions. Also, the earth is already exposed to huge amounts of radiation - much from the sun itself. The earth's magnetic field and atmosphere shield the earth's surface from most of it.
>>Spiral galaxies are 1-2 percent of total<<
No, more like about 15%. If you include SO type galaxies (which are somewhat flattened like spirals) the percentage is even higher.
>>A Yellow Dwarf sun such as Sol is about 90th percentile<<
What does that mean? There are over 100 million yellow dwarfs in our galaxy alone - multiply that by the estimated >>100 billion<< galaxies in the universe and you have something like 10,000,000,000,000,000,000 yellow dwarfs in the universe. On top of that, why would a star to be a yellow dwarf to be considered "potentially habitable"?
>>The Moon we have keeps Earth's axis stable, preventing wild swings in temperature that would kill life.<<
The earth's axis isn't all that stable - it wobbles and the earth's orbit varies in several ways as well which are known to initiate climate changes such as the ice ages. I don't see where this is any more stable than other planets such as Mars which has a couple tiny moons or Venus & Mercury which have none.
>>The gas giants absorb the vast majority of asteroidal hits, such as the one speculated to have killed the dinosaurs<<
Well, they have identified several stars now with planets and it seems that gas giants are quite common. And then the solar system's gas giants don't "absorb" very many asteroids or comets but do perturb the orbits of many flinging them into the inner solar system. There has only been one comet or asteroid (Shoemaker-Levy) observed to have been absorbed compared to many that have known to have been flung our way. Plus look at how pock marked the moon is - apparently the gas giants didn't absorb very many. It seems like having gas giants might be >>more<< dangerous than not having them.
>>If the Earth were slightly more massive, gravity would "smooth" out the topography, putting us all under water.<<
Malarky. The forces involved with plate tectonics far exceeds gravity. To smooth out the topography you would have to >>stop<< plate tectonics. On top of that, a larger mass would likely result in >>increased<< plate tectonic activity.
May 30, 2008
10:49 a.m.
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jugdish writes:
I have some home video of Sasquatch! Anyone willing to fork over a few hundred grand to air it somewhere? I'll split the dough with a "Bigfoot" expert who is willing to authenticate it. Sarcasm. Thick.
BTW: Have you ever noticed that UFO's never land on the lawn at Harvard, Yale, Stanford, MIT? Don't you think they'd want to probe "our best and brightest"? And what about the technology? Seems they choose remote places in the sticks and fellas named Bubba who say things like..."it done picked me up with its mind powers and shook me like a dog."
May 30, 2008
11 a.m.
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bluedharma writes:
Looks like a puppet. If this is the same video.
http://www.rockymountainparanormal.co...
see this site.
http://www.rockymountainparanormal.co...
May 30, 2008
11:33 a.m.
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Orson writes:
Nobody named Jerry Hoffman appears in the IMDB as anything more than an editor in one or two B-movies - If I were the reporter who did this story, I would have asked for the names of the films Hoffman worked on, and the names of the "animatronics" people he quoted.
May 30, 2008
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Deeprub writes:
Im not proud to say it but I have had sex with one of these little female aliens ;-(
May 30, 2008
1:20 p.m.
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GameGrrl writes:
Hmmm, alien looks like the same one from the 'Alien Autopsy'. Wish they would release it so we can see the entire thing!!! What are the reporters saying?
May 30, 2008
1:32 p.m.
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TFC100 writes:
Once upon time I would be a beliver,but nowdays with a wall seperating us from illegal aliens from Mexico.
If it was real the govement would of already starting building a roof over the United states.
But at least it is escape from the elections.
May 30, 2008
1:32 p.m.
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welc1713 writes:
Devil_Dog
My ancestors immigrated legally, too. That's because the U.S. basically let anybody become a citizen because there was a need for laborers. Do you ever hear about the topic of anti-immigration at the beginning of the 20th Century? My point is, the reason for our ancestors coming here is the same as that of the new immigrants. They want more opportunities to work and provide for their family. I agree there needs to be improved immigration laws, so why don't we criticize our government for having failed policies rather than the immigrants for seizing on opportunity. If we were working to secure our borders and focusing on HOMELAND security, rather than trying to keep our country safe 3000 miles away, there would be more control over immigration.
Dan2
Is ignorance really bliss?
First you insist on labeling those within the United States as American, then you bash, and label, "progressives" for insisting on labeling. I never "labeled" anybody, I made the point that there were people hin this country long before Europeans came here, forced there rules upon them and made rules for who else could come here.
Sorry to burst your bubble, Dan, but the opposite of progressive is regressive. Maybe that is why the Republican party is falling apart at the seams. I guess that's to be expected, though, when you choose someone like George Bush to represent you not only once but twice.
May 30, 2008
1:34 p.m.
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GWM writes:
Orson Welles is having a great laugh over all this ignorance. It is highly likely there is other 'life' of some form elsewhere in this universe. I doubt if they have visited us.
However, I do believe:
* that the navy shot down TWA flight 800
* that Jimmy Hoffa is buried under Giants stadium
* that we did not land on the moon (it was a Hollyweed stunt)
* that OJ really was innocent
* that I will win the lottery someday
* that Saddam did not use a WMD to kill any Kurds
* that Bill Clinton really did not inhale
* that Charles_B really is unkind to puppies
May 30, 2008
2:13 p.m.
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fiesty writes:
"so why don't we criticize our government for having failed policies rather than the immigrants for seizing on opportunity"
It shouldn't be one or the other, but BOTH. The government is failing to enforce our immigration laws, but the illegal immigrants are failing to respect our laws. Both should be held accountable.
May 30, 2008
2:51 p.m.
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El_Rabino writes:
by all these comments it would appear that lots of earthlings believe in lgm.
May 30, 2008
2:53 p.m.
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El_Rabino writes:
I'm a citizen of the earth...we're all on the same rock. You want a cheeseburger with that?
May 30, 2008
3:14 p.m.
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Sigmond writes:
"I guess that's to be expected, though, when you choose someone like George Bush to represent you not only once but twice."
Well, as usual, it was only a matter of time before some obsessed liberal would turn an article about a space alien into a political shot at President Bush..
May 30, 2008
4:39 p.m.
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italiclikeitis writes:
For those who didn't notice...The video linked above is not only a fake, but isn't even a good fake. The window in the video doesn't match the one in the real photo. Even more obvious, the aliens look different.
May 30, 2008
4:52 p.m.
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Sigmond writes:
italic- Maybe there is a family of aliens and the mommy alien looks different than the daddy alien. Just sayin'.
May 30, 2008
5:04 p.m.
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kendraknows writes:
To welc1713...well put! You don't have to be a liberal to see whats going on; it helps not to be ignorant however! Its pretty simple actually...people 'generally' won't believe the millions of people who have had experiences until they have one themselves or get proof. And while that is understandable, it certainly doesn't warrant the sophomoric comments here. If anything, it just makes these people appear as un-credible, unreliable, ignorant children. My suggestion (and take it or leave it) is to better educate yourselves before making uneducated, rude remarks. Just a suggestion! Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful CO day! :)
May 30, 2008
5:14 p.m.
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italiclikeitis writes:
Nodding Sigmond...And their mission is to taunt us all by peeping.
Or perhaps, they only peep, so that people will laugh at it and call it a fake.
The reality here, is that a real video will come out. And it will look like a fake too. Because how would we even know what the real thing is anyway?
May 30, 2008
6:24 p.m.
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Sigmond writes:
I am always suspicious when I see an alien who looks like ET. Those apple size blinking eyes are a dead giveaway that it cannot be a real alien. Real aliens never blink. They just look at you like you are crazy.
May 30, 2008
6:29 p.m.
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Sigmond writes:
Furthermore, I am getting irritated that this purported video, which was promised today, has not been made available..And why, I ask, do we never see these aliens wearing clothes or shoes or even a watch?
Just askin'.
May 30, 2008
6:44 p.m.
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mtnmama430 writes:
Maybe ET can find Bin Laden with all his peeping! Sorry folks I had to get silly, it was getting much too serious! I love it as it gets our mind off politics for a while. I wish there was something credible here to see.
May 30, 2008
7:04 p.m.
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GWM writes:
kendra, you actually believe 'millions' have seen ETs? Where do you get your statistics? I take 'millions' to be at least two. OR do you actually mean 'a lot' of people which could mean 'thousands'?
May 30, 2008
7:48 p.m.
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kendraknows writes:
@ GWM
I mean all of the government officials-past presidents (ever listen to Regan's address?)-governors-senators-lawyers-judges-etc, the astronauts, law enforcement officials, firemen/women, parole and probation officers, and oh, the people who don't have a title... Thats what I am referring to GWM. If you'd like further statistics and information, I invite you to do a little research on your own... Its there!
May 30, 2008
8:33 p.m.
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GWM writes:
OK, thanks. That is just what I figured. Hardly millions or even thousands. I have no doubt all the people you mentioned saw something.
There are a group of people that swear they saw a missile strike TWA 800 from JFK off of NY a few years back. You will never convince them otherwise. It was a faulty fuel pump in the fuel tank that caused an explosion.
There are a group of people that see a face in some photos of Mars and are convinced there was once a civilization there.
There are people that swear they see the face of Jesus in pizza or a statue that bleeds real blood.
There are all kinds of things people see and then attribute whatever they want to make it into something it is not.
Have fun with your fantasies. I just think it is a bunch of bunk that you *want* to believe. I don't think we are alone. I just don't think we have been visited. Except for the pyramids. I think aliens built them. (sorry, sarcasm)
May 30, 2008
9:23 p.m.
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alienstolemylunchmoney writes:
Humans are proof that aliens had sex with monkeys.
May 30, 2008
9:30 p.m.
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fiesty writes:
GWM- If we have not been visited, can you provide a substantiated explanation for the following events; all have been validated, and have copious evidence for them that remains undisputed- just unexplained:
1. Phoenix Lights (1997). Seen from 730-1030pm, witnessed by thousands of people and captured by news agencies. Seen by Gov Symington and investigated by Councilwoman Barwood. Initially, it was believed that a military exercise involving flares was involved, but the military admitted it couldn't have been their flares- the flares weren't released until 930pm (when the event started at 730pm), flares can’t fly horizontally and for over an hour, and the aircraft landed BEFORE the end of the event. The military also denied that any other operation of theirs could be responsible; plausible as it is unlikely that classified aircraft would be tested during prime time and over the 6th largest US city.
2. Chicago O'Hare Event (2006). A hovering object was witnessed during the day by passengers, mechanics, pilots, and air traffic controllers. Many took cell phone pictures of it. The FAA did a comprehensive investigation and concluded that they didn't know WHAT was hovering over the airport, but determined that it wasn't anything of ours.
3. Rendlesham Forest Incident (1980). A landed UFO was reported by a U.S. security patrol near the East Gate of RAF Woodbridge. They investigated (interviewed on Larry King Live), took detailed notes (which have been made available), and actually touched the craft before it took off. 2 days later, the craft returned; the base's Deputy Commander (Lt Col Halt, also interviewed) was called and witnessed it too. He took audio tape recordings (also available). His subsequent report to leadership is also available. Though all involved were interviewed by unknown suited civilians, Lt Col Halt and the others claim they were never debriefed (why they are able to discuss).
4. Phobos 2 (1989/1992). Phobos is a strange moon of Mars. Joseph Shklovskii [Soviet Academy of Science] and the famous Dr Carl Sagan once calculated from the estimated density of the Martian atmosphere and the peculiar acceleration of Phobos, that the satellite must be hollow. In 1988, the Russians launched 2 unmanned satellite probes (Phobos 1 and 2) towards Mars to investigate Phobos. However, both were inexplicably "lost" a few short months later, but not until some astonishing footage had been received- *clear evidence of unnatural formations and sighting of a possible space ship or missile mere moments before contact was lost*. In 1992, NASA launched the "Mars Observer" with the intention of a 2-year mapping survey of Mars. Yet within 3 days of its arrival, it too was "lost"...
5. Astronaut Experiences. Gordon Cooper, Mercury astronaut, wrote an autobiography and went on numerous interviews detailing his UFO encounter. After his experience, he became an ardent UFO supporter, and even wrote a letter to the UN in 1978 on the subject.
May 30, 2008
10:18 p.m.
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kendraknows writes:
@ fiesty
Thank u! GWM wants to live in his own 'fantasy' of 'its safe that I say I believe there is life out there, but I'll be damn to say much else b/c I'll just get criticized so yea, I don't believe they've been here'...so Jesus and his disciples must have been high??? OK!
Also GWM, if you take my comment regarding the amount of people who have seen things and figure that per recent polls that out of 6.6 BILLION people that now reside on this rock, a million is a small number...if its difficult for you to think in numbers like this, I can see how you would have a difficult time realizing we've been visited... Its ok...those w/closed minds will never know what they're capable of b/c they'd rather be in the dark... need a light???
FYI-We have two ears and one mouth, think its about time we use them appropriately???
May 31, 2008
8:07 a.m.
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Bartie writes:
So many people have been abducted by UFO aliens, they can't all be discounted. And I have always thought we were very conceited if we think WE are the only life in the universe. God could have created many universes.
May 31, 2008
12:30 p.m.
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GetReal writes:
Why is anyone surprised so many buy into this crap?
These are the same people that push the 911 Truther movement and numerous other supposed gov't conspiricies.
In fact, the new "Progressive" wing of the Dem Party has proven to attract these paranoid and non-intellectual types in large numbers.
One simply has to look at the popularity of Barrack Obama for proof.
May 31, 2008
12:46 p.m.
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kendraknows writes:
@ GetReal
Or you could look at the crowd who supports the current leader... Enjoy using your arm and leg to fill up your suv? Oh wait, you're probably fortunate enough to keep your limbs and STILL fill up your gas guzzler... Keep it up 'GetReal'- like everyone else who doubts we've been visited, they'll come a time when your beliefs will be shaken to your very core and you will question your very existence...then what? Continue to live in the dark, its a lonely place; but if you ever need a friend, someone who won't judge you for having an 'open mind', feel free to leave the dark side (so to speak...and no...I do not watch Star Trek and what not...I just know what you'll want to say next)... Need a light????
May 31, 2008
1:37 p.m.
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GWM writes:
Yep GetReal, you hit the nail on the head.
May 31, 2008
1:56 p.m.
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fiesty writes:
GetReal- so, just ignore any evidence contrary to your opinion, hmm?
GWM- you STILL haven't addressed my earlier question... we have copious evidence and numerous expert witness accounts. How do YOU explain it?
May 31, 2008
2:11 p.m.
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GWM writes:
fiesty, I have not had the chance to research your five examples. I know that sounds like a cop out and here is an even bigger one. I don't feel obligated to prove they don't exist. You have to prove they do. Out of the 'millions' of sightings where is just ONE shred of physical evidence? I just saw the picture that Mr. Peckman provided in Denver. Give me a break. Did you see it and want to use it as one of your pieces of evidence? That is why most of the world is laughing at you guys. You have no proof. Just because you are a president, astronaut, or cop does not make you any better visual expert. Since I did not see what they supposedly saw, what makes you think I have to prove it was not alien. GIVE US SOME PHYSICAL EVIDENCE.
However, if you want this stuff to be your religion, more power to you. Many of the left wingers on this site do not believe in ANY religion. That is okay for them. If you want to believe in this - so be it, but people are smirking about you while you do it.
May 31, 2008
4:06 p.m.
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GetReal writes:
fiesty-
After Bigfoot and Elvis come over to your place, are you guys going to take a spin with E.T. in his spaceship and campaign for Obama?
May 31, 2008
10:27 p.m.
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spib writes:
I love that people still think "you can't disprove it therefore it's true" qualifies as evidence.
June 1, 2008
1:52 p.m.
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fiesty writes:
GetReal- hmm, rather than address the examples I provided, you resort to childish insults? I am scarcely some new age gullible fool who believes in anything; however, when there is validated and authenticated events that can't be explained, I'm also not going to just ignore it. Gosh, you sound like all the archaeologists who ignore 'problematica' because heaven forbid the evidence contradict your established theories. You just keep on- don't let reality interfere with your fantasy!
GWM- there IS physical evidence, such as the authenticated footage, audio tapes, field notes, etc. I think some folks won't be happy until we actually have a downed UFO on public display; but they don't realize that will never happen because you're talking about capturing something yards ahead of us in technology (kind of like a canoe capturing a submarine) or that the gov't will have it in secret.
June 1, 2008
2:31 p.m.
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GWM writes:
fiesty, you have a different view of 'reality' than those of us who are somewhat skeptical. It does not make you wrong, but it does not make it fact either. What you accept as 'evidence' may not be reality. If I admit that I believe there is likely something more in this vast universe than we have here on earth, will you at least admit that the 'evidence' you purport may in fact not be real? Such as the tape presented in Denver yesterday?
I cannot explain what some people have seen, but that does not make it alien evidence. Give me only one or two examples where you think the evidence is unquestionable and I will search for information on it. Which of the five examples you gave previously do you think *should* make me a believer. An autobiography and talk show appearances won't do.
In your example #3, why is there not video footage or pictures of any of the men sitting on the craft? Only audio recordings and field notes? Does that really persuade you? Can you see where it would not persuade most people?
Esample #4, because spacecraft have been lost we are to believe it was caused by aliens?
I am sorry. I think your 'evidence' is weak and unconvincing or all 6 billion of us would become believers.
June 1, 2008
3:21 p.m.
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lovepeacenrg writes:
im in seattle area...i have been taking non professional pics for awhile...after sometimes close and sometimes immediatly lookin at the pics...i see the same things...alien like or another beings...i believe with the energy shifts and the awakening of everyones minds more than it has ever been ..is bringing out the realities that we r not alone and living not oply in 3d and also could b different planes and parallel dimensions....hopefully people will not fear what they r percieving and broaden what should of been long ago.....
June 1, 2008
3:43 p.m.
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Alltrue4u writes:
An alien will always look fake because it's ALIEN.
June 1, 2008
4:32 p.m.
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CyberHostage writes:
I don't want to alarm anyone ... but the same image appeared on one of my pancakes this morning, and it instructed me to sell plaster reproductions on eBay.
June 1, 2008
8:29 p.m.
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fiesty writes:
GWM- I never said the Denver tape is convincing; quite the opposite. I was pointing out to all the ridiculing skeptics that there ARE some valid, authenticated UFO events. Further, I never stated that ETs are the answer. Not sure if it's this blog or the other, but I stated only that we have some unexplained flying objects, that cannot be explained, but are valid enough to warrant further explanation. I put forth a variety of explanations of which aliens is only one: remnants from one of man's earlier civilizations, possible time travelors, etc.
You wanted evidence, and I provided much- the Phoenix Lights were witnessed by thousands, including the Governor, and copious (by hundreds, not one or two) footage was obtained (including numerous news agencies). In the Chigago O'Hare incident, once again footage was obtained by hundreds of people, and cannot be dismissed easily due to the nature of the witnesses and the official investigation. In the Phobos 2, you even have footage provided by the Government!! In Rendlesham, in addition to audio, there WERE photos taken- but taken away from the SFS member by the mysterious civilian investigators (the Col never mentioned his audio tapes, else we wouldn't have it either). Further, you have a high-ranking military officer actually collaborating his SFS members. Most damning, is that not ONE alternative explanation has been put forth that has been found to be possible/likely. I just don't know what more you could possibly want, besides the UFO itself.
In answer to your question, the evidence in these four cases (when combined with witnesses with specific expertise applicable to evaluating the event in question) seems to me to be "unquestionable"- something occurred that we can't explain, witnessed by hundreds/thousands or by specifically relevant witnesses, and we have copious footage to prove not only that it happened but to its nature. I can understand being skeptical, since I used to be, but to deny these type of events (when so well documented and investigated) is to cloak a blind mind as skepticism (ignore reality in favor of belief).
June 1, 2008
8:48 p.m.
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the_arsonist_ewok writes:
what if they arent aliens at all, but have secrely lived here the whole time? and maybe theyve seen what total jerks humans are and have tried to avoid us.
and as for the whole thing about them coming millions of light years to look through our window, maybe it was some scientific expedition, and one of their kids snuck along and wanted to explore, you know?
June 1, 2008
10:01 p.m.
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squidsurprise writes:
Wow, here we are in 2008 and we're talking about ALIENS!??!
It's like we're in the 1950's again...
I thought most people understood that we are supposed to be concerned about more current conspiracies like Global Warming and 9/11....
OK, first off, yes, there are almost an infinite amount of stars/ solar systems/ planets so the odds of their being other sentient life out there is pretty good.. However, the odds of that life bothering to travel here??? And then to be caught on film peeping into people's windows????
The problem here is that people have forgotten the actual meaning of "UFO". It means Unidentified Flying Object... NOT necessarily an alien!!
If you live in some small town in the middle of frickin' nowhere, and you see something flying at night that doesn't look like the normal airplanes or helicopters... you call it a UFO...
Then everyone else who live in Kreppilling, Idaho (no, no such place exists, stop getting offended!) claim that they saw it too, and that there must be aliens gracing their town with their presence...
A day or two later (depending on how big the news actually gets), a story is released admitting that actually some company was testing a new weather balloon, or some 8-year old had a remote control gizmo, or some such...
Of course, THAT story isn't given much publicity, since all it does it make the local townsfolk look like rubes (but if the shoe fits...), and people claim for decades about how UFOs have been sighted in their privelidged town.
Now, in the 1950s, the US (and to some extent the Canadian as well) government was "slightly" paranoid about the "Red Menace" and was running all sorts of experimental aircraft tests in remote locations throughout North America. When the local rubes saw these tests at night, they naturally assumed these UFOs were aliens!!
With no stories contradicting them (the government much preferred having stories about aliens than admitting to the Soviets that they were flying experimental planes!), alien conspiracists felt that they had even more "evidence".
Even some stories about "alien crashes" come into suspicion...
If an alien race actually came here, what are the odds that they would crash?!?! Isn't it more likely that a US Air Force test pilot, dressed in some outlandish experimental flight suit, crashed his experimental aircraft?? Might that not also explain why these so-called aliens look so human??
Anyways, I've ranted enough... I'm hoping that we can get some more inventive conspiracies for the 21st Century. Aliens are now 50 years out of date!
June 2, 2008
9:46 a.m.
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GWM writes:
squidsurprise, well said. You are pushing a rope uphill though. These believers will not be swayed. If a president saw it, it has to be an alien. If an astronaut saw it, it has to be an alien. If a space ship disappears, aliens had to be responsible. If lights seen by 'thousands' of people (likely scores) can't be explained, it has to be an alien. If someone touched a strange flying machine, it could not possibly have been made in the good ole USA, it had to be an alien craft. And on and on and on. Orson Welles is laughing his butt off.
June 2, 2008
10:27 a.m.
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fiesty writes:
squidsurprise is right about one thing- a UFO doesn't necessarily mean aliens. On the other hand, it isn't necessarily secret aircraft testing since some events occurred prior to the advent of flight.
I've said it until I'm blue in the face, that this video is not reputable. However, I am STILL waiting for skeptics to acknowledge there have been events that are inexplicable, and to come up with a substantiated explanation. Just as UFO advocates jump to the conclusion of aliens, so too do skeptics jump to conclusions without basis.
June 2, 2008
12:12 p.m.
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GWM writes:
fiesty, I like this debate because no one should get hurt from it and there certainly should not be any name calling or ugly remarks.
You said: "... am STILL waiting for skeptics to acknowledge there have been events that are inexplicable, and to come up with a substantiated explanation."
I acknowledge there have been and forever will be events that are inexplicable. I do not have to come up with any substantiated explanation. That is why they are inexplicable by definition. I can give an opinion, but it would not carry any more weight than the believers jumping to an alien connection.
I am sure you will agree that there have been many more hoaxes than truly noteworthy events. Am I correct saying that? All the hoaxes do is cause the truly uneducated and rather dense people (not you by any means) to feed the frenzy. They say "See!! See!! I told you!" when they see the ridiculous Denver video. Or a picture of an alien peeking around the corner of a hallway. Have you seen that one? It was given as one of the multitude pieces of "evidence" that aliens exist on the threads the past few days. If you remove all the true 'crap' from the mix, I believe you would only be left with a very small number of unexplained events and/or phenomenon. And the crap only causes the skeptics to think youse guys are loonies.
I am getting ready for Cub Scout day camp and am swamped right now. I still promise to look into those lights you have mentioned a couple of times. But I still think the craft that those folks supposedly saw and touched could have been a government craft and the pictures were confiscated to keep the secret. I admit that i do not know, but I sure do know that that event does not prove it was alien.
But I will continue to be open mined and admittedly skeptical.
June 2, 2008
1:44 p.m.
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fiesty writes:
I agree, there are extremes on both sides- new age gullibles who jump on the "Alien!" bandwagon for everything, and the skeptics who refuse to admit anything could be UFOs.
The aircraft explanation isn't a good one though, if the situation indicates it isn't and the gov investigates and says it's not theirs. (On the contrary, the gov would have a vested interest to say "yes, we were running an experiment, but can't give you any details".) That's what gets me in the case of the Phoenix Lights- there simply is no plausible explanation.
June 2, 2008
2:11 p.m.
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666 writes:
There's a whole world of difference between a video that has not been altered, and actual footage of an alien. All that Jerry Hofmann said was that the footage was genuine and unaltered...not that it was undisputably a real live alien in the window. He can't vouch for that, and considering how low-res the film is I can't blame him.
I honestly not an anti-believer...I just think that it hurts your cause to vouch for such weak evidence. There's a difference between wanting to believe and having proof.
June 2, 2008
3:34 p.m.
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CyberHostage writes:
I cannot continue to allow this deception to propagate any further. You see, I trained my Akita to use a scissors-lift* (* an automated, hydraulic scaffold that was in my foyer during renovations), and some nut took a video of it. I am so sorry for any hysteria, or false hope of intelligent life that may have inadvertently been caused.
June 2, 2008
4:56 p.m.
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FormalistAesthete writes:
If an extra-terrestrial peeps in the same window for 18 years, can it claim ownership of the window through adverse possession?
June 2, 2008
5:58 p.m.
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fiesty writes:
FormalistAesthete- ROFLMAO! Oh man, I almost spit out my dinner! :-)
June 2, 2008
6:20 p.m.
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rparker072457 writes:
I was on summer vacation back in 1982 in Richmond, VA. It was a late night and me and two friends were walking down the street coming from 7-Eleven on our way back to the house.
Down south when night falls it gets really dark unlike the Tri-State area of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut because of all the lights in the Metro area.
Anyway, as we walked, we were talking and laughing and all of a sudd