Kennedy has brain tumor
Associated Press
Originally published 11:15 a.m., May 20, 2008
Updated 02:51 p.m., May 20, 2008
Photo by Associated Press
Sens. Hillary Clinton, left, Barack Obama and Ted Kennedy await the start of the State of the Union address in January.
BOSTON — A cancerous brain tumor caused the seizure Sen. Edward M. Kennedy suffered over the weekend, doctors said today in a grim diagnosis for one of American politics' most enduring figures.
"He remains in good spirits and full of energy," the doctors for the 76-year-old Massachusetts Democrat said in a statement.
They said tests conducted after the seizure showed a tumor in Kennedy's left parietal lobe. Preliminary results from a biopsy of the brain identified the cause of the seizure as a malignant glioma, they said.
His treatment will be decided after more tests but the usual course includes combinations of radiation and chemotherapy.
Kennedy has been hospitalized in Boston since Saturday, when he was airlifted from Cape Cod after a seizure at his home.
"He has had no further seizures, remains in good overall condition, and is up and walking around the hospital," said the statement by Dr. Lee Schwamm, vice chairman of the Department of Neurology at Massachusetts General Hospital and Dr. Larry Ronan, Kennedy's primary care physician.
They said Kennedy will remain in the hospital "for the next couple of days according to routine protocol." Kennedy's wife and children have been with him each day since he was hospitalized. Senator Kennedy's son, Rep. Patrick Kennedy, D-R.I., plans to stay at the hospital for the time being.
"Obviously it's tough news for any son to hear," said spokeswoman Robin Costello. "He's comforted by the fact that his dad is such a fighter, and if anyone can get through something as challenging as this, it would be his father. So he's optimistic, he's hopeful, but obviously he's concerned."
President Bush was notified by his staff of Kennedy's diagnosis at 1:20 p.m.
"He said he was deeply saddened and would keep Senator Kennedy in his prayers," spokeswoman Dana Perino said.
Malignant gliomas are a type of brain cancer diagnosed in about 9,000 Americans a year — and the most common type among adults.
It's an initial diagnosis: How well patients fare depends on what specific tumor type is determined by further testing.
Average survival can range from less than a year for very advanced and aggressive types — such as glioblastomas — or to about five years for different types that are slower growing.
News of the diagnosis hit hard for colleagues on both sides of the aisle.
"I'm really sad," former Sen. Bob Kerrey, D-Neb., said when told in a Senate hallway about Kennedy's condition. "He's the one politician who brings tears to my eyes when he speaks."
"I am so deeply saddened I have lost the words," Sen. John Warner, R-Va., said in a Senate hallway. Warner said he and Kennedy had been friends for 40 years. Both served on the Senate Armed Services Committee together.
Kennedy, the second-longest serving member of the Senate and a dominant figure in national Democratic Party politics, was elected in 1962, filling out the term won by his brother, John F. Kennedy.
His eldest brother, Joseph, was killed in a World War II airplane crash. President Kennedy was assassinated in 1963 and his brother Robert was assassinated in 1968.
Kennedy is active for his age, maintaining an aggressive schedule on Capitol Hill and across Massachusetts. He has made several campaign appearances for Sen. Barack Obama in February, and most recently last month.
Kennedy, the senior senator from Massachusetts and the Senate's second-longest serving member, was re-elected in 2006 and is not up for election again until 2012.
Were he to resign or die in office, state law requires a special election for the seat no sooner than 145 days and no later than 160 days after the vacancy occurs.
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May 20, 2008
11:24 a.m.
SockRayBlue writes:
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May 20, 2008
11:29 a.m.
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NEPats79 writes:
Ted has been in Senate for longer than my 41 years on this planet, so it will certain seem strange to no longer have him around.
May 20, 2008
11:32 a.m.
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May 20, 2008
11:33 a.m.
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newsjunkie writes:
wow - what a bunch of misanthropic (you might have to look that one up, boys) and nasty, bitter people on this comment board.
May 20, 2008
11:36 a.m.
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May 20, 2008
11:38 a.m.
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Big_D writes:
Gee he is only a year older than McCain. Get well soon. I know it's harder when you are older and under such stress. With such a traumatic past I wonder how he escaped mental illness. I guess his combat experience was minimal and he wasn’t something like a prisoner of war.
May 20, 2008
11:40 a.m.
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T1anda writes:
DirtySanchez and DoubleChubbyChuck..I do believe you both suffer from defensive oral guilt!
At least you should!!
May 20, 2008
11:43 a.m.
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NotYours writes:
When someone drives drunk and kills another person -- without even attempting to render aid.... then gets away with it due to their family's political status -- don't expect much sympathy.
// my guns have killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car
Congressional term limits, anyone?
May 20, 2008
11:50 a.m.
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May 20, 2008
11:52 a.m.
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SheikYurBooty writes:
NotYours - good point. On the other hand, Laura Bush has killed as many people while driving sober as Kennedy has driving drunk.
Is it time to dust off the Reagan/senility comments?
May 20, 2008
11:57 a.m.
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junglegymco writes:
Wow - Who knew such hatefullness existed among the RMN readers. I only hope you that you all have the same response from people when you are facing a terminal illness.
Best wishes your way, Senator Kennedy.
May 20, 2008
11:58 a.m.
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freethought writes:
And we think that McCain is the picture of health. Shows to go ya that anything can happen when you are that old. Do you think McCain can last at least four years and do you think he can straighten out this mess in that time? The presidency has had its senility problem since Reagan. If I am not about to trust my 74 year old father with running things, why would I want McCain to do it?
May 20, 2008
11:59 a.m.
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dilligaf writes:
I see the republicans are showing their true colors on this board."NO CLASS"
May 20, 2008
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d1234 writes:
These messages are both sad and pathetic. While I disagree with virtually everything that comes from Ted Kennedys mouth, some of the comments here are vicious. What about a little compassion during a bad time even though you may be on the opposite side of the political fence?
May 20, 2008
12:02 p.m.
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May 20, 2008
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HollyGoLightly writes:
I am not a fan of Ted Kennedy by any means because of past incidents in his personal and political life. Political bashing aside, I wouldn't wish that diagnosis on anyone.
May 20, 2008
12:04 p.m.
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Dick_Tater writes:
Love it, the same people who flock to the boards and make the death of our soldiers a political agenda are the same who come here and try to shame those who use the senator for theirs. You all must be doctors come here to assess the tumor, because you have taken the hypocritical oath.
May 20, 2008
12:10 p.m.
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RickyLee writes:
Too bad.
Bill wanted Ted to drive Hillary home from the DNC....
right over the Platte River.
May 20, 2008
12:11 p.m.
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May 20, 2008
12:23 p.m.
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Tbone writes:
I hope you scumbags (and your families) who are cheering on the cancer die of an advanced tumor.
Seriously. I hope your spouse and children die a horrible death.
How's that?
Even if bush himself was stricken with cancer, I would not celebrate.
Republiks: The party of no shame since......ever.
May 20, 2008
12:24 p.m.
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dilligaf writes:
These posts show why the republican party will always be known as the hate party.
Scott,
I don't remember Ted going to trial for murder. Can you enlighten me when this took place?
May 20, 2008
12:28 p.m.
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opinionatedcolo writes:
I see the loudmouth right wing contingent has arrived in full force. Scott, Rickylee and the rest whose entire contribution to this board is self righteous preaching and four year old level insults. Who could not have predicted this outpouring of hatred and venom? Rather classic right wing arguments, if you disagree with me you are a bad person who deserves to die, preferably a slow and painful death. Want to know why it is so hard to accomplish anything in this country? One of the parties is dominated by those who relish and enjoy attack and hatred rather than progress and reason.
Ted Kennedy has accomplished more in his life than these guys will ever consider in a thousand lives (most of which they will spend as worms and ticks). The nattering of such persons matter no more than the buzzing of mosquitoes. Indeed they know that and that frustration at their own impotence drives their childish attacks.
May 20, 2008
12:34 p.m.
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rickg19611 writes:
There but by the grace of God, go I.
Unfortunately, some of those who do not share Kennedy's political positions are acting like leftwingers. No need to act like Move-On.org types who take pleasure in the pain and suffering of others.
May 20, 2008
12:41 p.m.
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Spencer writes:
Posted by RickyLee on May 20, 2008 at 12:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Too bad.
Bill wanted Ted to drive Hillary home from the DNC....
right over the Platte River.
that's an old joke. Of course all you need to have Laura Bush take care of someone is have her driving on the same road. Really pathetic comments when someone is dying. Doubledumb, the party at your place will be when you are dead. No more insipid comments. The sooner the better.
May 20, 2008
12:41 p.m.
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zinny8 writes:
I feel secure knowing the GOP is still the party of Christian and family values, as evidenced on this board.
By the way, it's quite amusing to see the garrulousness of meek little men when their comments will be posted on an anonymous internet message board.
May 20, 2008
12:44 p.m.
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opinionatedcolo writes:
Doublechubby, why would anyone waste time trying to educate you. Anything that anyone said about Kennedy's work on poverty, on education, on the environment, or the judiciary would be simply fodder for you to further claim that any liberal needs to die a painful death. As you have never posted anything that indicates a desire for a rational conversation, but instead traffic in slander, attack and self righteousness, nothing anyone says would have impact on your opinion. Kennedy spent decades serving his state and his nation. You on the other hand spend the day on here insulting those who actually try to solve problems.
May 20, 2008
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May 20, 2008
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freethought writes:
Exactly, double chucky must have ground round for brains.
May 20, 2008
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freethought writes:
"think skinned", "fiefdom" enlighten me, DCC.
May 20, 2008
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freethought writes:
and if there is no god?
May 20, 2008
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huffdiver writes:
I wonder if Teddy will ever have the chance to know what a good cheesburger tastes like in the future?
May 20, 2008
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MarineGrunt writes:
"By the way, it's quite amusing to see the garrulousness of meek little men when their comments will be posted on an anonymous internet message board."
Kind of like what you did here? Just asking...
May 20, 2008
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May 20, 2008
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GK writes:
Laura Bush hit and killed a pedestrian, was never convicted and no charges filed thanks to a politically powerful family and it has been conveniently swept under the conservative media rug for years.
May 20, 2008
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Getaclue writes:
If they remove it and he comes to his senses will he become a Rebublican?
May 20, 2008
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Lonestar writes:
I wish Ted well, but I'll bet he's glad the US medical system has not become socialized yet. He would die while waiting for treatment. Actually, he probably would have died while waiting for the MRI to diagnose the brain tumor.
May 20, 2008
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GK writes:
Re: Laura Bush
"The police records are now sealed. According to some re-posted news paper reports from 1963, the person she killed was actually her boyfriend. She hit him in another car, his car was stopped in the middle of the intersection, she was driving 55 MPH on dry pavement on a clear sunny day, and she also had to run the stop sign to hit him."
May 20, 2008
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GWM writes:
OJ didn't kill anyone either. Maybe he could run for Mr. Kennedy's seat. Massachusetts' Dems like to have killer's who never saw justice represent them.
May 20, 2008
1:12 p.m.
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freethought writes:
"If they remove it and he comes to his senses will he become a Rebublican?"
Only if they remove all of the brain.
May 20, 2008
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freethought writes:
So Laura Bush should get a tumor. Your god willing.
May 20, 2008
1:19 p.m.
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tao41 writes:
Any person who delights in the misfortune of any other living creature is doomed to return as that which they fear, despise, or ridicule. Explains the presence of large numbers of politicians, vermin, idiots, and cockroaches doesn't it?
May 20, 2008
1:28 p.m.
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Scott writes:
GK said, '"The police records are now sealed. ..."' Really, according to http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/l... the police report was made public in May 2000. There are some "illegible" parts in the hand written report.
Here are the significant (in my opinion) differences between Laura Bush's wreck and The Blob's wreck.
Bush, sober. The Blob, drunk.
Bush, stayed at the scene. The Blob, hit and run.
Scott
May 20, 2008
1:30 p.m.
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Fresh writes:
How can someone be in the senate for so long if they are hated so much ??? I don't understand that
May 20, 2008
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MTN_Frank writes:
Posted by Lonestar on May 20, 2008 at 1:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"I wish Ted well, but I'll bet he's glad the US medical system has not become socialized yet. He would die while waiting for treatment. Actually, he probably would have died while waiting for the MRI to diagnose the brain tumor."
Dear Mr/Ms Loanstar,
Kennedy does have government run health care, all of congress does. So under government run health care (socialism using your words) Kennedy was rapidly transported to a local hospital, then flown by helicopter to a top notch hospital and given an MRI and correctly diagnosed in less than 48 hours.
If I had the same thing happen to me under my private medical insurance I would need to first call my doctor and get approval to even go to the hospital, then I would need to fight the insurance company for weeks to get transported to a top notch hospital, then 2 months later I could try to fight my insurance company to get an MRI. About 6 month later they would tell me I have brain cancer but it is to late to treat, then the insurance company would fight to pay for any treatment since it is already to late and the expense to the insurance co. would cut into the CEOs yacht fund.
May 20, 2008
1:38 p.m.
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May 20, 2008
1:42 p.m.
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freethought writes:
"Laura Bush" murdered "unnamed victim", and lied about it. That is the truth. A murderer and a liar. Only things that would make "her" a more appropriate role model for the Left would be if she were Muslim, gay, and a Klansman (Klanswoman?).
kumbayah yourself!
May 20, 2008
1:42 p.m.
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GK writes:
"Here are the significant (in my opinion) differences between Laura Bush's wreck and The Blob's wreck."
You forgot these:
Kennedy=cover-up
Bush=cover-up
May 20, 2008
1:45 p.m.
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tao41 writes:
bropous, when you come back as ???, be sure to sing a round of kumbayah for us all! I give no crap, you have earned it. And so do we all receive what we earn. I now bid you all well.
May 20, 2008
1:46 p.m.
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JustSayin writes:
Fresh "How can someone be in the senate for so long if they are hated so much ??? I don't understand that" It's because the people of the State of Massachusetts wanted him and repeatedly have voted for him. Luckily, those typing vicious hate from the comforts of their double-wides don't have a say in the politics of another state.
God Bless Ted Kennedy and his family, and may his remaining days be peaceful and comfortable.
May 20, 2008
1:47 p.m.
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The_Punnisher writes:
BTDTGTTS on the malignant tumor/stroke issue. My comments still stand.
Kennedy has directly and indirectly caused the suffering of MILLIONS. Karma can be a B***H sometimes...
May 20, 2008
1:49 p.m.
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Scott writes:
GK,
Did you read the http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/l... link that I had in my first comment? How about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Bush ? No mention of "cover up" regarding Laura Bush's wreck. Oops, I forgot, I should have read Daily Kos! Now that, Daily Kos, ONLY prints the truth :^)
Scott
May 20, 2008
1:51 p.m.
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GK writes:
"Kennedy has directly and indirectly caused the suffering of MILLIONS. Karma can be a B***H sometimes..."
Then Bush must be in for bad KARMA big time!
May 20, 2008
1:52 p.m.
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mamma354 writes:
Give me 10 minutes to transcribe all the "Cheny/heart attack" jokes into "Kennedy/tumor" jokes so that all the liberals can get a chuckle, cause only those jokes seem funny or appropriate.
May 20, 2008
1:55 p.m.
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GK writes:
the snopes article was wriiten as an obvious opinion piece and wikipedia...pulease, truthful??
May 20, 2008
1:58 p.m.
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Tbone writes:
Scott-
Let me see if I got your reasoning correct.
So, if you're democrat, and kill someone in a car accident, its pretty much the worst thing evah!
If you're republican, and kill someone in a car accident, its no biggie.
Is that about right?
May 20, 2008
2:01 p.m.
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Trythinking writes:
Ted will go down (Sorry Mary Jo) as one of this nation's greatest politicians since he has accomplished........... Just as his brother JFK accomplished........... and his other brother RFK accomplished......
Sorry, I've got nothing.
May 20, 2008
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May 20, 2008
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Devil_Dog writes:
freethought
The only thoughts you could ever have would have to be free. No one would ever pay for such stupidity. Glad I'm not you father! The lack of respect you show for him is disgusting, but to be expected because the only thing you have ever demonstrated respect for is your right to think your nonsensical thoughts. As far as your asinine statement about bad things happening to old people
("And we think that McCain is the picture of health. Shows to go ya that anything can happen when you are that old. Do you think McCain can last at least four years and do you think he can straighten out this mess in that time? The presidency has had its senility problem since Reagan. If I am not about to trust my 74 year old father with running things, why would I want McCain to do it?")
I suppose that you think no one young ever gets a tumor or cancer?
Try telling that to all the people at children's hospital. The only person here displaying signs of senility is you. If you ever do have a lucid thought please don't waste it. Because the drivel you post here belongs in your depends, not out for public consumption
May 20, 2008
2:24 p.m.
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Dick_Tater writes:
I thought we were supposed to leave the spouses out of this? Or is that only when it benefits the big O?
May 20, 2008
2:25 p.m.
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junglegymco writes:
NotChasB -
Kennedy was never charged with murder.
I don't presume to defend his actions that night, just as I don't presume to defend Bush's order sending thousands of American soldiers to death against a country where there was no immediate threat to the U.S.
That said, I would still wish Bush the best, were he be diagnosed with a brain tumor.
Perhaps someday you will learn compassion; I will pray for you in the meantime.
May 20, 2008
2:31 p.m.
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AC writes:
bropous: If you're going to mask your hatred for Kennedy as concern for the memory of Mary Jo, you should at least have learned to spell her name correctly after 39 years.
May 20, 2008
2:37 p.m.
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MrCrush writes:
opinionatedcolordo
"why would anyone waste time trying to educate you. Anything that anyone said about Kennedy's work on poverty, on education, on the environment, or the judiciary would be simply fodder for you to further claim that any liberal needs to die a painful death."
I would say the same things about anyone who butchered the political system like this fat drunk. Yeah, his work on poverty - he simply perpetuated it for millions of people for decades. Yeah, his work on education - by throwing billions of dollars at a public education system that is for the most part the laughing stock of the world in this country. And, his environmental record - right! Although he couldn't get his arms around a tree, his support of those wackos is one of the reasons I payed $3.99 per gallon for gas today. We can only hope there's not another communist in the wings waiting to take his place. He overall legacy and mark on this country is something my kids and yours will be PAYING for in the generations that follow. Karma is a "b".
May 20, 2008
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opinionatedcolo writes:
wow Mrcrush, the sad part is that you think what you just posted is argument. Once again, name calling is not reasoning, it is just the last response of the unintelligent, which you prove yourself every time you type. Were you aware, for example, that without Kennedy, no child left behind does not pass. I thought that was a shining example of holding schools accountable? Just ask GWB.
Trying to use reason with most of the righties on here is trying to teach a pig to dance. It wastes my time and annoys the pigs.
Scott, just because you say it is not political does not mean we have to believe it. Your record on this board of atttacking anyone who dares to disagree with you and your childish and continuing use of personal insults would lead any person to ignore anything you say as false and inherently unworthy of belief.
Kennedy is far from perfect and I do not agree with all he has done or tried to do. But those who come on here and wish him dead say much more about their lack of humanity than they do about him.
May 20, 2008
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ashlandbus writes:
This board just goes to show, once again, that Republicans only care about a human life until it is born.
May 20, 2008
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vudumom writes:
What goes around comes around. It just took too long to come around.
May 20, 2008
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newsjunkie writes:
I can understand, in part, some of the hostility directed at the Senator re: the Kopechne incident. It was a horrible incident and a lot of questions were left unanswered. that being said, that is no excuse for hateful and vile diatribes posted on here wishing the Senator ill will. god, get a life, people. i can't imagine so much energy wasted on hatred. the Kopechne incident aside - the Senator has spent his political life fighting for the little guy - and has done more for that little guy than any of his peers (even McCain says no one gets more accomplished in the senate than Kennedy does). a lot of the rights and benefits you all take for granted can be attributed to the tireless efforts of Kennedy. and i agree with AC - you haters' so-called concern for justice for Mary Jo are full of crap - you are just exploiting her death as support for your own political venom. you couldn't give a damn about her, her family or her memory. we all see right through your disingenuous cry for "justice" and revenge. if you hate the Kennedys - fine. but don't try to make your hatred appear legitimate by invoking the Kopechne name.
May 20, 2008
3:28 p.m.
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The_Punnisher writes:
Posted by GK on May 20, 2008 at 1:51 p.m.
"Kennedy has directly and indirectly caused the suffering of MILLIONS. Karma can be a B***H sometimes..."
Then Bush must be in for bad KARMA big time!
Oh yeah. The NINTH circle of Hell is getting crowded...;-)..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_C...
Most of Capitol Hill will be there.
May 20, 2008
3:30 p.m.
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Shaggy writes:
newsjunkie, I can remember Liberals and Democrats celebrating after Reagan died....either way it is pathetic...I can't stand Kennedy but I won't wish him ill will...at least not openly.
May 20, 2008
3:35 p.m.
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May 20, 2008
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newsjunkie writes:
i don't care who is wishing who dead. it is in bad taste no matter what the political affiliation. and it says a lot more about the poster (i.e., MeyeK66) than it does Senator Kennedy. i wonder how many posters on here wishing the Senator a slow and painful death - also call themselves Christians . . . I bet quite a few.
May 20, 2008
3:47 p.m.
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Jennie writes:
Some of you have NO respect or class.
Based on the reactions of senators (from both parties), it's obvious that Ted Kennedy has made a PROFOUND impact on them because of everything he's done for this country. Maybe some of you should do your homework, but his legislative record shows that he's fought for you and your families his entire career. Way to show him respect; I don't understand how some of you are so heartless.
May 20, 2008
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RickyLee writes:
Funny....I'm registered INDEPENDENT!!!
Ha ha! How do you partisan accusers like your crow?
May 20, 2008
3:56 p.m.
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Shaggy writes:
Jennie,
He also fought hard for amnesty for the illegals and to give them Drivers Licenses.
May 20, 2008
4 p.m.
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YIOTA writes:
What are the major accomplishments of Senator Ted Kennedy?
May 20, 2008
4:10 p.m.
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freethought writes:
Devil Dog, for your information, my father has Alzheimers and the last time I talked to him he could not remember me. Now as for McCain, he has bouts of memory loss already. It has appeared many times on the campain trail. I would not want my father running the country in his condition, but I guess it would be okay for McCain. ??? As for cancer, tumor, etc. I am not sure that I would want to have to bury a president mid-term. These are valid points, and see, I haven't had to call you a single name. YET!!!
May 20, 2008
4:13 p.m.
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JustSayin writes:
NotChasB - "I suppose you typed your Kennedy fan letter from your beach house in Cape Cod." Nope - from my one and only home in the Colorado foothills.
"Bringing up doublewides shows your a Kennedy and Obama elitist wannabe" Not a 'wannabe' at all. I am proudly an elitist who disdains most of my fellow citizens with their lack of insight and compassion, their seventh grade comprehension levels, and their amazing ability to vote for people, parties, and ideas that hurt their own self interests, again and again. Not too fond of Obama, btw, though the b*tch repulses me more.
May 20, 2008
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Jennie writes:
Shaggy-
He supported acts and bills that changed U.S. immigration policies, but they didn't take away jobs from American workers or bombard our country with immigrants.
So are you saying that because he is a strong advocate for immigrants and thinks that some laws discriminate against other nationalities..that he deserves a brain tumor?
May 20, 2008
4:52 p.m.
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Devil_Dog writes:
Freethought
I did not call you a name, I made reference to your rambling thinking. But please feel free to call me all the names you like. I am not overly concerned with your opinion, you have demonstrated quite well that it not worth worrying about.
As far as memory, ALL politicians have memory lapses, because when they are caught in a lie they say their memory failed them so it wasn't really a lie. i.e.. Hillary and her landing in Eastern Europe while the airplane was taking fire, a blatant lie.
About your age comment has I correctly pointed out all people young and old can succumb to illness and die.
But I am very afraid of your "Yet!!!"
I am, however, truly sorry to hear of your father's illness and will say a prayer for him.
May 20, 2008
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freethought writes:
Atheists do not want prayers from you, Thanks anyway.
May 20, 2008
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Tbone writes:
Shaggy-
Can you post an article, written by a "liberal", gloating about Reagan dying?
You see, that's one difference between R's and D's. The D's at least have enough class to not sling poo.
The R's, on the other hand.....have sh!t under their fingernails.
May 20, 2008
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Big_D writes:
The RMN staff should consider which stories they allow comment on. This one has been horrible tasteless. Even my retaliatory comment about McCain should be removed. America is sick in the head. The horrific comments about another human being in dire straits are ample proof of this.
May 20, 2008
5:57 p.m.
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IronmanCarmichael writes:
At least Senator Kennedy has a brain. Lucky for our president that a tumor can't develop in an empty space.
May 20, 2008
6:11 p.m.
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Shaggy writes:
Jennie,
I wished we had a cure for cancer, I wouldn't wish it on anyone including anyone I have no respect for and dislike greatly.
Tbone,
Let me clarify, I remember Liberals and Democrats dissing RR on the blogs including moveon and daily KOS. It was on the news.
And no, I am not going to visit those hate sites to provide you a link.
May 20, 2008
6:14 p.m.
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Shaggy writes:
"The D's at least have enough class to not sling poo"---Tbone
LoL...You are joking right?....RIGHT?????
You might try to view life outside the box.
May 20, 2008
6:47 p.m.
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SockRayBlue writes:
Apparently the staff at RMN thought I was taking a cheap shot at Eddie. Perhaps I was and in doing so I was looking back many years to the time when the Kennedy boys were young and had so much promise. What went wrong? A sense of entitlement overrode the promise to society. The Kennedy boys used their positions in government to raise themselves above their constituents. Mary Jo was one such case. Marilyn Monroe another. Whatever happened with Mrs. Bush's accident I'm not aware of. The bottom line is that politicians need to keep focused on working for the American people, not using then....which many of these Snake Oil Salesmen do time and time again. They forget that no man is above the law. Watching these clowns in action makes me feel like a black man in the fifties when everything was hunky dory that the white man did, but you better watch out if you is black. The distance between the haves and have not's is rapidly increasing. And anyone that thinks they are above the law should be brought to the bar. Republicans, Democrats and Independants. I still think Eddie is a malignant tumor.
May 20, 2008
7:06 p.m.
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Shaggy writes:
Dirty,
FYI and mine.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/l...
May 20, 2008
7:46 p.m.
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david.miller writes:
Too bad Ted wasn't a bit more like Jack, and I say this in the past tense given the present press release. Jack, while considered a liberal for the time, was trained in how the economy really worked. Ted, unlike Jack, has never seen the big picture and progressed beyond his guilt (or political opportunity) of being wealthy; he has no concept of the market’s risk/reward calculus. No matter what happened, Ted never had to worry about where his next meal was coming from. This position really makes it easy to be a liberal, especially when you are giving it away through redistribution of other’s incomes to garner votes. Said differently, in anyone’s wildest dreams of taxation, you couldn’t make Ted poor. So if you’re him, why worry about the policies you espouse as long as you get to be a United States Senator?
All that said, I am sorry to hear of his illness. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.
DCM
May 20, 2008
7:54 p.m.
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The_Punnisher writes:
" He supported acts and bills that changed U.S. immigration policies, but they didn't take away jobs from American workers or bombard our country with immigrants. "
Jennie, you might want to look up the definition of LIE.
Then rephrase that statement.
I stand by my statement.
May 20, 2008
7:57 p.m.
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Scott writes:
Shaggy,
GK will just poo-poo your reference to snopes. I told him to go look their and at wikipedia. GK's response was "wriiten as an obvious opinion piece and wikipedia...pulease, truthful??"
-- pragma sarcasm_on
Oh well, we use Al Gore's invention, the internet, to try and enlighten the liberal effete and they then ignore what is posted on the invention of a Nobel Peace Prize winner! Sigh
-- pragma sarcasm_off
Scott
May 20, 2008
8:10 p.m.
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Jennie writes:
Shaggy, thanks for clarifying. You have a heart :) unlike some of the people on this site.
The_Punisher, we can sit and argue politics all night. That's really not the point. Regardless of his political stance, the man does not deserve a malignant brain tumor. That's what I'm trying to say.
May 20, 2008
8:22 p.m.
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The_Punnisher writes:
Jennie, look up the word KARMA. What goes around comes around. Teddy K has built up a LOT of negative karma in his lifetime. Mary Jo was only one incident of many falsehoods he has lived by.
The malignant brain tumor fits the criminal T. K. in my book. The higher powers have a way of enacting JUSTICE when someone having power and privilege doesn't allow justice to be served.
May 20, 2008
8:31 p.m.
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redwhiteandBLUE writes:
I can't believe how CNN,FOX and all the other channels gave T. Kennedy so much props, on how the whole Kennedy family overcame so much diversity in their life. Well, they did it to themselves,
Americans don't forget, Ted & the MaryJo car accident, John & Robert and the Marilyn Monroe scandal. The nephew that got prison time for a murder when he was 16, the other DUI blamed Ambien,
the other nephew a rape charge..on and on. Yet, we loved them for their support of the working man the American citizen. We (I)
blinked at all the mess, because the Kennedy's always had our back
as far as the issues. After Teds betrayal to the American Citizen I no longer have respect for him. I do hope he recovers, maybe all the illegals that hes trying to give amnesty to will back him up
now in this crucial time. I no longer love them. Offended and betrayed. Best wishes anyway!
May 20, 2008
8:32 p.m.
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Hola writes:
I wish Ted Kennedy well hope he takes a positive turn and I'm also a Democrat.
That said, Kennedy family groupies disgust me. They had plenty of faults - killing that girl in the car wreck being one of them. Mention that to a fanatic and you get a tired look like 'How can you bring that up'? In Denver, you do that and you're going to jail. Shouldn't the law apply to everyone?
Kennedy is a lot like Bush, both rich kids given their jobs by their daddies. No wonder they love each other.
May 20, 2008
8:38 p.m.
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Hola writes:
BTW, it's the nutcase fans that bug me. The Kennedy's themselves may be a flawed group, but the people who acted like they were Gods are the one's that I have a problem with.
May 20, 2008
8:42 p.m.
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Jennie writes:
The_Punnisher,
I know TK isn't a saint. That being said, however, the event you're referring to happened 40 years ago. TK was remorseful, was punished, and has dedicated his life since that time to being a public servant (whether or not you agree with his policies and stance is irrelevant).
And how does karma work for his grandchildren and his kids and his wife? Do they deserve this pain and suffering? Cleary not.
May 20, 2008
8:46 p.m.
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kathyM writes:
Though I'm not a Ted Kennedy fan, I wouldn't wish brain cancer on my worst enemy. I hope he gets through it and comes back to the Senate.
May 20, 2008
8:47 p.m.
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redwhiteandBLUE writes:
Oh, And I'm now registered "INDEPENDENT".
May 20, 2008
9:11 p.m.
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The_Punnisher writes:
A MURDER committed 40 years ago is still MURDER.
The same scales of justice we use were tipped in favor of him. Karma has a way of building up if you choose to ignore it.
Ted Kennedy has only ONE dedication: TO HIMSELF.
Ever seen his compound? Ever notice the Senator inaction?
Ever seen the " privileged few " or worked with them?
The scales are finally getting balanced. Ted Kennedy can't change that. His POWER, INFLUENCE and MONEY can't change that.
The higher powers will see to that.
May 20, 2008
9:20 p.m.
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Jennie writes:
Since you're so into looking up words, I recommend you look up murder. (It's to kill intentionally or with premeditation.) Ted Kennedy didn't murder anyone. Feel free to comment on higher powers and blah blah blah all you want. I'm done responding to your remarks.
May 21, 2008
2:56 a.m.
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clyde writes:
Teddy committed manslaughter. Not quite murder. His walking away from the event and then lawyering up showed where his loyalties lay.
A brain tumor is a bitch. His prognosis is for 6 to 24 months. I sure wouldn't like to have his future.
I can't wish the man evil, although I can see how some can. I disagree vehemently with his political positions. Nonetheless, he is still human. Perhaps with his demise we can move forward, lose the politics of guilt, and actually make some progress.
May 21, 2008
7:58 a.m.
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Scott writes:
clyde,
What the heck is the difference between "murder" and "manslaughter"? Yes, I do understand the difference between first degree murder, premeditated, you planned it and did it; second degree murder, e.g. you "snapped" and killed someone; and third degree murder, you did not intentionally go out to kill someone e.g. The Blob driving Mary Jo over the bridge (at least we think he didn't premeditate it).
In a previous posting I compared the dictionary difference between murder and manslaughter. There is virtually no difference.
Scott
May 21, 2008
7:59 a.m.
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Scott writes:
It seems that RMN is nuking a bunch of my postings. I guess that they can't stand me referring to Kennedy as "The Blob". But then I suppose that none of the Thought Control Gestapo at RMN has had an aunt murdered by a drunk driver.
Scott
May 21, 2008
8:34 a.m.
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Devil_Dog writes:
Freethought
I have read enough of your posts to know something of who and what you profess to be. That, however, has nothing to do with what I do, say or think.
May 21, 2008
9:45 a.m.
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Scott writes:
bropous,
I'll add to your observation that conservatives must have thicker skin that libs. We don't cry to mommy when we get slammed.
Also, RMN nuked my posting where I explained that my hate towards Kennedy was solely based upon it dodging the murder rap, not his politics. I went on to state that while I abhor Obama's, Clinton's and Edwards' political stands I do not wish them physical harm ... only political harm ;-) (Let's see if RMN thought control can understand it this time that I'm referring to "political harm" as "they lose their elected positions").
Scott
May 21, 2008
11:09 a.m.
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ProfessorBates writes:
I believe that Senator Kennedy actually had a seizure caused by alcohol withdrawals and that this brain tumor stuff is just a cover-up. I'll bet that guy has at least 10 years of drinking left in him. You watch...he'll be back to 'work' in the Senate just as bloated and boozy as ever.
May 21, 2008
11:26 a.m.
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Scott writes:
Oh oh! ProfessorBates, I made a similar comment early on in this posting and the RMN Thought Control Gestapo nuked my comment! You better watch out!
Scott
May 21, 2008
8:16 p.m.
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ProfessorBates writes:
"the RMN staff apparently has no tolerance for people making light of Kennedy facing a dirt nap,"
Are you saying that I could get away with openly hoping for a Cheney heart attack? That is a bit two-faced but that is the nature of the liberal. At any rate, I think it's reasonable to suspect Kennedy of covering up an alcoholic seizure with a phony brain tumor because of his dishonest misbehavior regarding Mary Joe Kopechne. As long as Kennedy remains alive, my theory holds water.
May 21, 2008
8:39 p.m.
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ProfessorBates writes:
"Laura Bush has killed as many people while driving sober as Kennedy has driving drunk."
True but but the two accidents aren't morally comparable. The future Mrs. Bush caused a straightforward accident that resulted in the death of another driver. Ted Kennedy's behavior at Chappaquiddick is still mind-boggling in it's cold-blooded dishonesty. Many people believe his alcoholism sprang from remorse over his lost presidential bid due to the death of Mary Joe Kopechne.