Lesbians guilty of trespassing
By Sue Lindsay, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)
Published May 7, 2008 at 9:30 p.m.
Photo by George Kochaniec Jr. / The Rocky
Attorney Mari Newman, left, hugs Kate Burns as Sheila Schroeder looks on after the pair were convicted of trespassing. Each paid $41 in court costs and must perform community service.
A Denver jury took less than an hour Wednesday to convict a lesbian couple of trespassing for staging a sit-in when they were refused a marriage license.
Kate Burns and Sheila Schroeder held hands, sitting quietly as the verdict was read. Schroeder gave Burns a wink after they heard the verdicts.
The two, who work at the University of Denver, were arrested Sept. 24 when they refused to leave the Denver county clerk's office in protest of the Colorado law that bans marriage for same-sex couples.
"We were not surprised by the verdict," Schroeder said. "I would absolutely do it again. We're not just talking about the gay community but hundreds of thousands of Coloradans who want to change this law."
The women each paid their $41 court costs and said they will cheerfully serve the 28 hours of community service the judge imposed.
"We know the road to justice is a long one," Burns said. "It's an honor to serve a sentence for something that may help improve our community. I would serve any sentence for this cause."
Lawyers for the couple challenged the constitutionality of Amendment 43, which defines marriage as the union of one man and one woman, but County Judge James Breese said he could not decide that issue.
Defense attorney Mari Newman said they hadn't decided what to do next.
"This is just a first step down a long road to equal rights," Newsman said. "This was an opportunity for Kate and Sheila to exercise their First Amendment rights to express that the law is unjust. I could not be more proud to represent them."
Prosecutors said they broke the law when they refused to leave the clerk's office.
Burns testified that she participated in the sit-in to protest that the law denies equal rights to lesbian couples who want to marry.
"We believe the law prevents us from the free exercise of our religion," said Burns, a Unitarian. "We feel as good citizens and people of conscience, we must stand up against injustice when we witness it. We cannot receive the same services from that office that everyone else does."
The Rev. Michael Morran, of Denver's First Unitarian Church, said he accompanied the women during their attempt to get a marriage license, planning to marry them "on the spot" if they succeeded.
"I thoroughly and completely believed in what they were doing," he said. "They held hands as long as they could until the officers put their hands in handcuffs and led them away."
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May 8, 2008
12:51 a.m.
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j_j writes:
They broke the law. I am thankful that the jury made the right decision. Even if our state eventually bows to the homosexual lobby, marriage will always be between one man and one woman in God's eyes. For now, the majority of Coloradans' have spoken and thus we have amendment 43.
By refusing to leave the office they were breaking a law...they trespassed. Justice was served in this case. As women of "conscience" I hope that you will truly see the light of what is right and wrong from God's standpoint.
May 8, 2008
6:46 a.m.
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nicolec writes:
j_j and the Q- your comments remind me of the arguments people in the 1950s made about interracial marriage. You're close minded, hateful and completely ignorant.
j_j I'm not sure if you're one of those crazies who thinks you and God commune regularly where he/she tells you things etc but I don't feel like you have the right to speak for God or to tell us how God sees things. Frankly, you are no more special than any of the rest of us- get a grip. Worry about what God is going to think of your actions, words and thoughts. If you're like the rest of us, there is plenty to criticize within yourself.
I find that when people start claiming they understand the inner workings and thoughts of their God they are capable of atrocities (9/11 is a fabulous example).
May 8, 2008
6:47 a.m.
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ColoNative writes:
Where is this taking us? Well, ask the polygamists.
May 8, 2008
6:51 a.m.
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happymike44 writes:
Well for all hate mongers the marriage rite you practice today was the one the all male spartan army used to take when paired with a partner in defense of the sparta population.So the sad part is your denying the very people who gave you the marriage ritual.Bet you did not know it did you.Well I was raised in europe while my father was on a tour of duty.This a real fact go look it up on the internet.So if you deny one person then you deny all the people the respect and dignity they deserve.I guess your the same idiot who had me thown out of the restaurant and two bookstores I go to with my service dog.I am deaf and jerks like you make life hard for everyone with your bible is the only way.Put that book down and look at the human factor,Love is for everybody and so is respect.It takes alot of courage to stand up and protest for something you believe in.I have seen a hate crime right in front of my own eyes and it was down right scary.I did not allow it to happen without stepping in.I maced those guys for their part in this awful crime.So when you don't teach love and tolerance for others then you are not listenng to god's words.Beware of the hate monger ministers who only want your money so they can drive a new cadillac every year and a new fur coat for the wife.When you wake up and see this then you will understand.Religion is only about how much money you can give and how will I look to the others in church on sunday.So remember it was supposed to be about loving and caring for each other.So pratice religion the way it was supposed to be practiced by giving of your heart.Love and respect does not cost a thing,but anger and hatred will desroy you inside.What would jesus do love everyone no matter who they were.Jesus died for everyone's sins!
May 8, 2008
7:05 a.m.
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Shaupeen writes:
There are a lot of scared, ignorant people out there. You narrow-minded hate mongers are the Bull Connors of this generation, and I can't wait until public opinion turns, revealing you to be the ugly, mean people you actually are.
May 8, 2008
7:23 a.m.
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holekeeper writes:
yea, yea, yea, this was talked about and debated all day long yesterday with nothing but insults and the such. All the people saying that the people who are aginst gay marriage are intolerant back woods, bible thumping, beer drinking, rednecks. Not realizing that they are being just as intolerant of people and thier belifs as the ones opposed.
"There are a lot of scared, ignorant people out there. You narrow-minded hate mongers are the Bull Connors of this generation, and I can't wait until public opinion turns, revealing you to be the ugly, mean people you actually are."
why, because I dont think and act like you I am ignorant? Why cant people just debate and accept that people are diffrent.
May 8, 2008
7:38 a.m.
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Spencer writes:
All the same silly arguments (marrying horses etc) were made when people argued about inter-racial marriage. It has absolutely no effect on me or my marriage if 2 people of the same sex get married. I really think the people who are so dead set against it have some real issues.
May 8, 2008
7:53 a.m.
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Spencer writes:
Why cant people just debate and accept that people are diffrent.
Posted by holekeeper
Wow, don't you see the irony? Marine you are absolutely right. Iran has made being gay against the law. Nice company for the anti-gays to keep.
May 8, 2008
7:58 a.m.
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holekeeper writes:
Hey rockymountainnews.com staffers
wwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeee oooffffff!!!!!
May 8, 2008
8:16 a.m.
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nicktaste writes:
the self righteous are more often than not, more wicked than the people they oppress
if the people on the left are "socialists"
then the people on the right are "fascists"
May 8, 2008
8:50 a.m.
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gr8fuldude writes:
For all it concerns me, I don't care if these two chose to marry their English Sheepdogs. Just keep the action behind closed doors.
As to trespassing, the got the just verdict. Try to imagine the annoyance and frustration you would feel if they pulled this act at DMV, the bank, or your workplace. My thought is that you would feel the same level of frustration as you would for any other yutz going out of their way to make a "statement".
If these two want to make a statement, try not being public pains in the tail. That only sets back their own cause.
May 8, 2008
9:07 a.m.
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nicolec writes:
Funny that some of you criticize them for doing exactly what African Americans did during the 60s. Sit-ins were inconvenient, that was the point. Non-violent protest is extremely useful and a great way to take a stand without hurting anyone.
Were these women guilty of trespassing- yes, that was the point.
May 8, 2008
9:18 a.m.
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Cwillyrun1 writes:
They are guilty of trespassing and that's the bottom line. Should they receive special consideration because of their lifestyle?
Are they so desperate for attention and acceptance, craving such an ego boost, that they have to trespass when they know beforehand they'll get in trouble for it? They can protest to the public for us to change the law, since the voters of the state said no special rights for gays, but the County Clerk, the politicians, and the courts can't change it. They're no different as people than anyone else, there's good and bad, stupid and smart. I know some that are hilarious, or helpful to others, and others that don't believe in personal hygiene of any kind or one that says she "can kick anyone's a s s"..... although at 4'10" and 100 pounds, she's gullible. Sounds like anyone around us. It's not about them as people, and their lifestyle is their business. I've had ex's that were bi and I was cool with it, they're people with desires and feelings and that's not what should be ignored or put down. But marriage is different.
Marriage is between husband and wife. So, which of these two is the husband and which one's the wife?
May 8, 2008
9:19 a.m.
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Steve writes:
Colorado: the land of beautiful weather, beautiful mountains, and hateful disrespectful people.
May 8, 2008
9:21 a.m.
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Cwillyrun1 writes:
holekeeper, nice post at 7:23.
May 8, 2008
9:22 a.m.
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Marshdale writes:
Can anybody who is a Christian please show me in the NEW TESTAMENT where there is anything about marraige between a man and a woman? Can anybody show me where Jesus said you are only allowed to be wed to one of the opposite sex? Just curious. I find it puzzling how many Christians there are who revert to quoting the Old Testament when it is convenient for them. Um, Jesus is part of the NEW TESTAMENT is he not? Was it not part of Jesus' message to abate some of the cruelties in the OLD TESTAMENT? Someone please clue me in. Am I missing the message of Jesus or what?
May 8, 2008
9:24 a.m.
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El_Mariachi writes:
I think they need "The Strong Arm" to take their case!
May 8, 2008
9:25 a.m.
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airbornebigfoot writes:
I better not comment on this couple today,
yesterday RMN pulled my comment.
Lets just say I'm against their alternative lifestyle.
May 8, 2008
9:26 a.m.
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gr8fuldude writes:
There's a fine line between civil disobedience and narcissistic self-indulgence. Protest all you want, but the county clerk has no ability to change laws. Making a spectacle of yourself and your cause only hurts both and is counterproductive, especially when the voters of Colorado have spoken.
If you are really worried about personal freedoms, you should be more worried about this week's eminent domain decision, in which the McLean-Stevens party in Boulder were awarded the land they grabbed from neighbors.
May 8, 2008
9:27 a.m.
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BJG writes:
I think the next time a straight person is arrested for anything the headlines should read: "Hetrosexual arrested." Maybe the Rocky should change it's name to The National Enquirer, since it really isn't a viable newspaper with story lines like "Lesbians Arrested." This just panders to the lowest level.
May 8, 2008
9:28 a.m.
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Cwillyrun1 writes:
Steve, it works both ways. Those spewing venom towards people who disagree with them are on both sides of this issue.
freethought, don't be "chicken", be brave and state your name and zip code. Oh, with communism, these people that are guilty of trespassing would probably not be heard of for several years and they'd be sent into exile in a frozen, desolate place. No need to exaggerate with the communism rant.
May 8, 2008
9:31 a.m.
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blacksho89 writes:
freethought: I asked yesterday, and you did not answer.
What WAS the clerk supposed to do when these two would not allow the employees to go home at the end of the day? Stick around and make S'Mores with them until they decided to leave?
They were trespassing, they KNEW they were trespassing, and they WANTED to be arrested,
May 8, 2008
9:31 a.m.
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Cwillyrun1 writes:
Marinegrunt, which one's the idiot? The dark haired lesbian or the blonde haired lesbian? Why would you call either of them an idiot?
May 8, 2008
9:46 a.m.
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holekeeper writes:
Cwillyrun1 THANK YOU AND MARINEGRUNT wHEN THEY BLOCK ME I AM SURE IT WILL BE SOMETHING LIKE HOLEKEEPERISBACK1!
May 8, 2008
9:52 a.m.
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Marshdale writes:
I still don't see a response to my previous inquiry. All of you NEW TESTAMENT experts can't come up with anything? Dang! I'm waiting patiently for NEW TESTAMENT quotes. Please respond.
May 8, 2008
10:02 a.m.
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Cwillyrun1 writes:
No problem Marine. Everyone has a view and I respect that.
May 8, 2008
10:02 a.m.
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nicolec writes:
I do often wonder if the Bible they read at my church was different than the ones some of these so called Christians keep quoting. I don't remember Jesus ever:
1. Asking people to speak for him when discriminating against HIS people
2. Asking that we discriminate against any of HIS people
The quote that stuck with me most was "do unto others..."
This is how you'd treat Jesus?
That is why I no longer consider myself a Christian. I don't want to be associated with people who hide behind religion to spout their hate.
May 8, 2008
10:09 a.m.
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blacksho89 writes:
Marshdale:
Jesus had no tolerance for those who were "experts of the law", so he did not issue 547 page, footnoted decisions like judges and lawyers do.
See John 1:1 where Jesus is defined as "the Word", meaning He IS the Bible. He is the Old Testament also.
See Genesis 2:24 for a definition of Marriage, Revelation 2:14 for a quote from Jesus on sexual immorality.
You have heard the quotes from Leviticus defining sexual immorality as including homosexual acts.
There you go! Glad I could help.
May 8, 2008
10:27 a.m.
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blacksho89 writes:
It says that you can do it all you want if you want to go to Hell.
Gonna answer my question yet?
May 8, 2008
10:32 a.m.
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Marshdale writes:
Blacksho89: I just read John 1:1. I don't follow your logic. If he is the word then why is there no mention of him saying anything about the present topic in the NEW TESTAMENT? If he is the Old Testament also then, why does he turn it upside down in the beatitudes. So far all you have given me is OLD TESTAMENT quotes. I'm curious how you can rationalize the hate that is spewed in the Old Testament with the love Jesus preached in the New Testament. I'm still baffled by those of you who live life on narrow focus going down a one way street. At any rate the oldest book of the New Testament I believe was written some 60 years after Jusus' death. Most of what we read is heresay carried down through oral tradition. Why was it so convenient for the orthodox church to eliminate other books from the Bible. Maybe they did not fit their agenda. You think?
May 8, 2008
10:36 a.m.
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blacksho89 writes:
Really? Off topic, I'll give you that. I was answering someone else's questions, and they really don't have anything to do with the story. But if YOU, a god, can be threatened, abused, or defamed, well......
I guess I don't fear Odin much, then.
May 8, 2008
10:58 a.m.
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blacksho89 writes:
Marshdale: I could go on all day with you and you would refuse to change your opinion. So I won't.
If you are a Christian, read and study your Bible. Don't take MY word for it; study it.
If you are INTERESTED in Christianity, see above.
If you want to do your own thing, and don't care what the Bible says, go ahead! I'm not stopping you.
May 8, 2008
11:01 a.m.
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snowsurfer writes:
Why can't the government stay out of peoples bedrooms and private lives. Let gays and lesbians marry and have the same civil rights as the rest of us. Why do you care if a woman marries a woman or man marries a man? If "God" is the true judge, let him sort it out later.
May 8, 2008
11:05 a.m.
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Spencer writes:
I am a little surprised by your positon Gr8dude. I know from other posts that you are married to an Asian woman. It would not be real hard to imagine that 50 years ago you and your wife may have had to trespass in order to bring attention to an unjust law prohibiting inter-racial marriage. I don't think that would have been just trying to gain attentio at all.
May 8, 2008
11:33 a.m.
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Cwillyrun1 writes:
Spencer, nobody HAS to trespass. It's a choice. Me, I'd bring attention directly to the people able to make the change, not to those who have no choice but to follow the law because I want to be self centered in my protest.
May 8, 2008
11:36 a.m.
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fairness writes:
snowsurfer,
Isn't it funny that these people who push to ban things like gay marriage are the same people who complain about government being a "nanny state" when they do things like banning smoking in public buildings. They want government out of their personal lives but are all for getting government involved in everybody else's lives.
May 8, 2008
11:45 a.m.
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OhBrother writes:
When I saw the headline I wondered what a carpet cleaning company deems as tresspassing....got cha!
But seriously, them protesting should be no problem. if a law was broken then it would come to this, which it did-pay a fine and it's over . No big deal, they should be free to express themselves peacfuly.
May 8, 2008
11:53 a.m.
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Heidi writes:
I'm all for less laws, so lets do away with marriage recognized by the state and any associated laws. Then we won't have to worry about any of this!
May 8, 2008
12:01 p.m.
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gr8fuldude writes:
Spencer - You are correct. My wife is Asian, and we have had to deal with some discrimination, mostly from my family. What I am saying (maybe not clearly enuf - my bad), is that they are being counterproductive to their cause by causing inconvenience to people who will henceforth think of their cause as synonymous with being a pain in the tail. If they want to change the law, they should lobby their legislators, raise awareness and hold themselves out as positive examples, and as equal to other hetero couples (which is what equal rights is really all about)If you make the message too much about yourself, the message tends to get lost. I think that is what happened when they purposely broke a law that had nothing to do with gay marriage (because niether the county clerk, or the judge in this case can change laws)The footage on the news yesterday sounded too much like they were willingly play the martyr or victim and not enough about equality. I think if you continually hold yourself as a victim, you will never achieve equal status, no?
Similar case in point - Yesterday in NYC, Al Sharpton and company were arrested for blocking traffic during rush hour to protest the recent acquittal of the police in the recent Sean Bell case. While their actions will no doubt raise awareness, I think it will also miss the point they are purporting to make.
May 8, 2008
12:03 p.m.
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Heidi writes:
gr8fuldude,
Great comments!
May 8, 2008
12:27 p.m.
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happymike44 writes:
So this is to all the supposed christians put down that book and quit listening to the hate mongers.That would be organised religion,they don't care about you personally.All they care about is selling a agenda of hatred and facism.Then look at nazi germany it started out as a good thing but look at how it ended 22 million jews were exterminated just for being jewish.Not to mention all the gypsies and the other people of color.So I guess that Hitler would have a field day in America now because of the hatred so many speak towards others that they do not like.Take a long hard look at what you are saying.I believe Jesus would be very disturbed by the actions of many who claim to be christians.Plus if you really had a valid point instead of holding that book up and saying this is the truth.There are many truths and no one religion is the answer.Sorry if this upsets you and your belief system,remember give love get love.Just pointing out the karma and how f you give anger and hatred guess what you get in return.Anybody want to answer that question or not.
May 8, 2008
12:34 p.m.
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Heidi writes:
happymike,
You seem to mean well most of the time, but you constantly complain about how you are treated and tell your stories with such anger, hatred and judgement against those who are not like you. You have made a point several times that homosexuals are nicer that heteros.
Think Karma...
May 8, 2008
12:53 p.m.
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happymike44 writes:
Dear Heidi
Thank you for writing to me but the point I am making is how people are treating each other and using religion as the basis for this belief. I am far from angry I just want people to know that it is not right to go around treating each other gay or straight like crap.Because in the so called book of religion.No where in my bible does it say to abuse and deny people their rights.So if you have a problem with me standing up for my right as a deaf man.Well then I sorry,but I am entitled to my freedom of speech.My family has been paying for it in the deaths of our people since 1776 till current.So remember your fredom of speech was paid for by many of the military families.So do not degrade us for speaking up and stating we do not believe in opression of any kind.Sorry if this does not fit into the master plan of some people of taking away peoples rights.I will not stand quietly by while someone in a pulpit tries to take away people's rights and then saying god told me to do this.By the way I do not go around bashing people I just refuse to be swayed by religion and the ministers who use scare tactics to get what they want.So heidi dear if you want to give up your rights for these people of religion please do so freely but don't ask for mine I will never give them up for anyone or anybody.Why because they are mine !
May 8, 2008
1:03 p.m.
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happymike44 writes:
If you do not believe me get a book and look how few jews were left after world war two.My father knows this for a fact since he was there fighting.While many of you people were still not even born yet.By the way the Jewish people were treated this way to gain control over their economic properties.So that war was far more then about cookies and milk.Many people here in the U.S. do not know how close to speaking german we came.Also hitler gassed jews,gypsies and gays also let's not forget the old and mentally handicapped.They were all exterminated to make germany a better stronger nation.Just call me someone who knows the truth.
May 8, 2008
1:24 p.m.
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rip_vw32 writes:
happymike44: You just don't get it do you? By spouting the things you do, you are proving yourself to be very much alike those on the opposing side that are being closed minded. You are very clearly stating that everyone that doesn't think like you do will come to a bad end (as posted in your response to Heidi above). What makes you better than others? what makes you the one thinking correctly? happymike44, do you understand that the way you are writting back is EXACTLY like those arguing against you? The law is the law is the law... period. And as for getting beat up, mugged, laughed at, picked on.... I have dealt with the same.... Only I am not diabled, not unemployeed, a minority, a female, gay, or anything else you mentioned as reasons that people get singled out for. I am an average white male, who fought for this country, as did every generation of mine going wayyy back before the revouloution. You want special treatment, or equal treatment? because from where I am standing, you're getting equal treatment. The same CRAPPY equal treatment I am getting.... or do you think you've earned to be treated better than everyone else?
May 8, 2008
1:29 p.m.
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rip_vw32 writes:
And happymike44: My grandfather spilled the same blood in the same mud (always liked that saying). I still have the bayonet from a German soldier and My grandmother still has the SS Officer's pistol that my Grandfather picked up. So as far as knowing the truth, you know about as much as the rest of us.....
May 8, 2008
2:13 p.m.
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Heidi writes:
rip_vw,
Thanks for reiterating and explaining in more detail what I was trying to say.
happymike,
I do not have a problem with you standing up for your rights, just in the way you do it. You really don't come across as a happy man. I spent 13 years in the military. But I don't feel a need to brag about it or say that I am the reason anyone has any of the freedoms they enjoy. You are right, no one should be swayed by religious nuts trying to use scare tactics. Everyone suffers oppression in some way, but we should not be totally absorbed with that. It is unhealthy.
May 8, 2008
2:17 p.m.
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Cwillyrun1 writes:
Less laws Heidi??
LOL, I like you! :)
You make a good point, the government is too intrusive.
May 8, 2008
2:27 p.m.
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Shaupeen writes:
I think Jeuden_Frei might be back and amongst us.
May 8, 2008
2:29 p.m.
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Heidi writes:
Thanks willy!
That brings to mind the restriction on liquor sales on Sundays being lifted. So many people had the view that it was immoral for people to want to be able to buy alcohol on Sundays and that it was pathetic that the alcoholics needed that. But in actuality, it is limiting amount of control the government has over the store owners. Isn't that what we want and need? To abolish silly laws?
May 8, 2008
2:30 p.m.
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Cwillyrun1 writes:
rip and Heidi, you both are right. The message is listened to more often if it doesn't come across as a rant or as a victim who endures what just about everyone else endures at some point. The "poor me" type.
Karma is an appropriate phrase.....
May 8, 2008
2:38 p.m.
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Cwillyrun1 writes:
Yes.... there's laws like that where they don't make sense. It's about choice and if I choose to want to drink on a Sunday as a spur of the moment thing, I shouldn't be limited to cheap beer if I want something.
I totally agree with you, we need less stupid laws.
Out of curiosity, what branch did you serve in?
May 8, 2008
2:43 p.m.
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Heidi writes:
Oh, no, willy, are you trying to make me a target against some AF hater from another branch?
May 8, 2008
3:38 p.m.
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Heidi writes:
Did I scare ya off, willy?
C Willy, C Willy run.
May 8, 2008
3:47 p.m.
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Cwillyrun1 writes:
LMAO.........
No, not at all Heidi. You were in the Air Force? What did you do, if you don't mind?
Sorry, I wasn't at my computer for awhile there.
May 8, 2008
3:51 p.m.
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Cwillyrun1 writes:
I should've asked if you were at Buckley or not? It's not far from where I live. This may sound funny, but I get a rush when the F-16's take off vertically.
If you were in for 13 years, you must've liked it?
May 8, 2008
3:54 p.m.
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rip_vw32 writes:
Heidi: there is an Airforce? wow... wonders will never cease....
May 8, 2008
3:59 p.m.
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Heidi writes:
Nope, I was not at Buckley, and sad to say, was not a pilot. I started off in a F-16 unit and would have loved a ride in one.
I was in the ANG and worked full time there as a federal civilian, part time military. But I wore my uniform everyday and volunteered for as many active duty assignments that I could. Budget/accounting was my specialty. Boring, huh?
May 8, 2008
4 p.m.
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Heidi writes:
Here come the remarks.....
May 8, 2008
4:13 p.m.
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rip_vw32 writes:
Heidi and Willy: You should have seen an F18 take off..... talk about a rush? 0-120 in about 2 seconds.... Then full military power almost straight up... that is a thing of beauty... Though in my opnion Marines make better pilots than Navy... They don't whine as much...
May 8, 2008
4:17 p.m.
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Heidi writes:
So Rip, who brags the most?
May 8, 2008
5:45 p.m.
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Cwillyrun1 writes:
That's cool Heidi. I'd love to take a ride in one too. But accounting.... yeah, boring. haha, sorry. But it's not boring if you enjoy it.
What's cool is that you were a part of it. I wasn't, guess when I was younger I wanted to have fun and it wasn't the military. Rip, the F-18's fly over on occasion, but I can't tell if they're Navy or Marines. F-15's do also and those are awesome. If I could fly in anything, that's the one. I work with a former Navy pilot that says Navy pilots are better than AF pilots because they fly off carriers. I tell him the AF has better fighter jets.
I guess we're off subject, but I have one of my yahoo accounts if you wanna continue. 'good1left06'
Later!