Protesters rip DNC lottery

Group: 'Dangerous situation' created after loss of permit

By Daniel J. Chacon, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)

Published March 21, 2008 at 1:22 a.m.
Updated March 21, 2008 at 7:10 a.m.

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Denver could face a "dangerous situation" on the eve of the Democratic National Convention, war protesters said Thursday, after losing a coveted permit for Civic Center to the convention host committee.

"When things blow up because the police have to enforce a permit that the Democrats got, don’t blame us for that," said Glenn Spagnuolo, an organizer for the Re-create 68 Alliance.

"Blame the Democrats for trying to silence dissent in the city of Denver."

The lottery for permits to protest, pray or hold other events in city parks during the DNC Aug. 24 through 28 resumed Thursday after the city bungled the drawing Tuesday by accidentally leaving out some of the applicants' names.

The do-over went smoothly.

But when Jenny Anderson, event planner for the Denver 2008 Convention Host Committee, won the permit for Civic Center for a kick-off Aug. 24, Spagnuolo accused the committee of creating a "very serious, dangerous situation . . . for everybody."

Re-create 68 - which has promised demonstrations that will rival those at the bloody 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago - will be at Civic Center on Aug. 24, with or without a permit, he said.

The group, which is expecting up to 50,000 protesters from across the country, plans to march from Civic Center to the Pepsi Center, where the convention will be held, on Aug. 24, even though a parade route or a security zone hasn’t been announced.

Spagnuolo and Mark Cohen, another protester, said that the host committee shouldn’t have been allowed to apply for park permits.

"They have the Pepsi Center," Spagnuolo said. "Now they’re taking one of the biggest public spaces in this city from the public."

But Chris Lopez, a committee spokesman, said that the Democratic National Committee - not the host committee - has control of the Pepsi Center.

"We have a whole host of events that we are planning for to be held on Sunday the 24th," he said. "Now that we know the Civic Center is an option for us, we can proceed with our plans with Civic Center in mind."

Lopez said he wasn’t concerned that Re-create 68 planned to show up at Civic Center on that day.

"Re-create 68 does not influence our plans," he said.

The protest group and its affiliates had increased their chances of getting a permit for Civic Center on Aug. 24 and other days by filling out multiple applications. But Anderson, who submitted only one application, ended up winning by the luck of the draw.

Some people observing the lottery attributed it to karma.

Katherine Archuleta, a senior adviser to Mayor John Hickenlooper, said that the city worked to develop a fair permitting process.

"Everybody had the same chance," she said.

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March 21, 2008

3:18 a.m.

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duboisb writes:

This is obscene.

Did the founding fathers intend for people to draw lots to determine which folks got democracy and free speech and which don't.

What a shameful mess. And to allow the Democrat Party host committee to stifle dissent should be a sign for everyone that Obama-Clinton-McCain are just Bush politics are usual. We need a third party and real democracy.
March 21, 2008

4:12 a.m.

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chgrbill writes:

What a bunch of whining morons. Pres. Bush has nothing to do with this little shindig & you know it. Water cannons, CS/CN gas, riot batons & handcuffs are hopefully stacked & ready when these idiots come to town & we all know that little wimp spagnuolo won't be anywhere near Denver when it starts. I hope Denver PD kicks the snot out of you clowns.
March 21, 2008

4:34 a.m.

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Brian1973 writes:

So the city has limited space. has a lottery to determine who can use that limited space on a particular day..... and the loser threatens violence?

duboisb it sounds like democracy to me.
March 21, 2008

4:40 a.m.

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vudumom writes:

I thought the Democrats were the party of the people?The one true party that stands for democracy?
Where is an Obama speech when you need one?
March 21, 2008

4:51 a.m.

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El_Cubanazo_de_Miami writes:

We need general Pinochet !!!!!!!
March 21, 2008

5:45 a.m.

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fatdog writes:

Who elected this punk Spagnuolo to represent anyone anyplace? I don't have a clue who he is to threaten and wonder about his toilet training.
Fat Dog
March 21, 2008

5:45 a.m.

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Oh_Wise_One writes:

hahahahahahah! Glenn, I hope you are standing in front with the camera's rolling.... "Don't taze me bro!" I would PAY to see you scream like the little <delete> you are.
March 21, 2008

5:46 a.m.

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Oh_Wise_One writes:

fatdog, Glenn got some attention bending over for Ward Churchill.
March 21, 2008

6:08 a.m.

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Michael writes:

I will pay to see Spagnoulo's head cracked open and his thugs gassed and taken to jail - and then prosecuted to the full extent of the law. This guy is a thug and a hoodlum masquerading behind the 1st Amendment - like his buddies Glenn Morris & Ward Churchill. They have no clue what the 1st Amendment means and what they do think it means with regard to "free speech" is that it only applies to them. If you want to hold a Columbus Day parade then you HAVE NO free speech rights according to Spagnoulo, Morris, and Churchill because they don't like Christopher Columbus. The 1st Amendment grants us all free speech - it DOES NOT guarantee or provide the venue or the soapbox from which we can exercise it. Any city is within its rights to grant parade permits or whatever mechanism they choose to try to maintain order in the streets when so many people converge in one place. As a Republican I am looking forward to this with delight. Let the nation and world see what the far left in the USA is all about. I am sure this will help with votes in November as it did in 1968 with Hubert Humphrey. Nixon won easily - especially when he talked about "law & order" as we are a nation of laws, not just "rights" for thugs like Spagnoulo.
March 21, 2008

7:23 a.m.

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rickg19611 writes:

Democrat's deny Americans their rights. What else is new?

No wonder both Democrat candidates are trailing McCain by landslide margins.

Americans are fed up with Democrats denying them their basic freedom of speech.... and the polls prove it.
March 21, 2008

7:31 a.m.

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frontpage writes:

hey glenn, want to do something real. get a job

America is so beyond the idea that street protest effects change, it only breeds more of the same vermin that spagy is. The real work takes time, skill and patieice, working through your political proceses. hey glenn, with a mouth like yours and what ever jo b you got that lets you spend 2 days this week waiting on a lottery, whay don't you run for office some place? why do these guys think they can effect change by physical taunts and protest. Tell me one event or even a series of protest the past 25 years. anti war, abortion/ even free speech events. there ain't nothing thats changed Awareness rallies yes, Protest rallies no.

You can bet any one of them who is planning to be there is gonna have dinner reservations at some trndy or popular eatery 1 hour after their permit expires.
March 21, 2008

7:36 a.m.

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warrengfunk7 writes:

It sounds like a warning being issued by this group of a dangerous situation as a consequence of these results. As in a possible, premeditated, revengeful act? I would say that this Group 68 (or whatever they are called) should be considering this a very dangerous situation for them. They are treading on thin ice where they only one to pull them out is the Secrete Service and Group 68 is doing a good job at making the Secrete Service pretty mad.
March 21, 2008

8:03 a.m.

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Theoldguy writes:

Well, do I see another Democratic Convention similiar to the Great 1968 Chicago Democratic Convention. Denver cops better change to leather jackets from the nylon ones. The Chicago cops did when they found out that nylon burns.
March 21, 2008

8:04 a.m.

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dbsturgeon writes:

I can't wait until these violent, loud, moronic protesters throw a monkey wrench into the DNC. It will most assuredly stem the blue tide that's been rolling into this red state for a long time.
March 21, 2008

8:12 a.m.

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Shaupeen writes:

Well, this will be fun to watch.

Also, can you imagine this loser Spagnuolo at Christmas when he was younger--"you WILL get me the GI Joe with the kung-fu grip or I will burn this tree down!" What a spoiled brat.
March 21, 2008

8:14 a.m.

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davies writes:

Re: "I thought the Democrats were the party of the people? The one true party of democracy?"

Why yes of course, it's just that simple. Democrats are the good guys, with all good intentions. And on the other side are the bad guys who support the Republican party. There are no righteous reasons for disagreement, no honest differences of opinion, and no moral basis for opposing the Democrats. There are no people of conscience among the Republicans (except for the duped).

So don't you worry your pretty little head Vudumom; just trust one side, and everything they have to say about the other side - that's all we expect from you.

It's all black and white.
March 21, 2008

8:20 a.m.

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ham writes:

Is ANYBODY happy that the Democratic Convention is in Denver? Thanks alot, Mayor. This should be great. You know, when the Plumbers Convention or the Appliance Showcase comes to Denver, ReCreate68 doesn't promise to "blow it all up". And that's the kind of people we kicked out to make room for the Dimocrats. This should be wonderful, really. So excited to see democracy and chaos and anarchy courtesy of ReCreate68 and their ilk.
March 21, 2008

8:21 a.m.

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EZBakeOven writes:

Hmmm, a loser is threatening us! Damn, we are scared. Spagnuolo sounds like a media wh*re, living for any attention.
March 21, 2008

8:27 a.m.

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FlyfishDude52 writes:

froward69-why wouldn't the Republican party nominate a woman or a black man? I certainly have no problem with either one.
March 21, 2008

8:36 a.m.

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shelby writes:

In reply to Duboisb - How did McCain- Bush impact the happenings at the DNC. What a mindless idiot - Why not also blame global warming & the Pope for your lunacy.
March 21, 2008

8:38 a.m.

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Alive writes:

Where the hell are the adults? These kids are going to get their asses handed to them. This will be fun to watch.
March 21, 2008

8:58 a.m.

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rickg19611 writes:

More bad news for the Democrats.

First, numerous polls are showing both Obama and Hillary losing to McCain by landslide numbers.

Then, Obama went hysterical because 2 minimum wage workers in the State Dept looked at his passport information. This led to the media now questioning what Obama has to hide (like his "spiritual advisor" Wright who has ties to Libya and other Muslim terrorist supporting countries). What is lurking in Obama's travel history that would cause him to go hysterical? The media's interest is sparked. Dig, dig, dig. Find out what he is terrified will be revealed.

And now, a poll released today shows that 1 in 5 Democrats will vote for McCain over Obama/Hillary. Franklin & Marshall College Poll shows that the Democrat Civil War is destroying their slim hopes for November. Good riddance!!
March 21, 2008

9:11 a.m.

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Scott writes:

But, but but, isn't the democrat party the party of "peace", "love", ad nauseam?

Denver's fumbling of the lottery only fuels the fire for the freaks that want to riot. For the legitimate groups that want to march/protest/whatever, it has to be a frustrating mess.

Scott
March 21, 2008

9:20 a.m.

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pwern writes:

Great - Maybe they'll charge Spagnuolo with a felony for inciting riot after these freaks burn downtown Denver to the ground. Ten years or so in Florence might help adjust this bigmouth's attitude just a bit.

Remember folks - When you vote for Hillary or Obama, these are the people you are empowering. They're going to demolish our city in August, and Denver will forever be remembered only as the place where a bunch of long-haired, unemployed, misfit tax-dollar leaches (a.k.a. 'Democrats') turned our city into Fort Apache.
March 21, 2008

9:30 a.m.

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wow writes:

Zog is a pathological nut, but his point is valid.
It doesn't matter one whit whether we're Democrat or Republican, fair is fair. No one conspired to keep these yahoos out of the process, even though they intend to behave like animals during the DNC. The drawing was valid unless proven otherwise.
Recreate 68 is a group of violent war protesters, with no clear connection to either party. They want nothing other than to cause Colorado global embarrasment. Glenn should be hauled into the nearest FBI interrogation room for questioning about his choice of words in his threats. At the very least, he is threatening the safety of citizens, possibly the safety of US Senators visiting our city. Domestic terrorism anyone?
March 21, 2008

9:31 a.m.

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reality_incarnate writes:

All of you have big mouths (especially Spagnuolo). Sit back republicans, sit back and watch your tv form your (presumed) high horses. You guys have never had anyone crazy supporting your side, right? Give me a break.
March 21, 2008

9:35 a.m.

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Elwood writes:

Spagnuolo is just Churchhill's lapdog.
March 21, 2008

9:43 a.m.

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wow writes:

At the very least, a restraining order should be issued...ANY member of that missaligned swine herd should be required to stay a mile away from Civic Center Park and the Pepsi Center during the DNC.
The only riot that they can hope to incite is the one Zog would give them.
Bawahahaha. Go get em, tiger.
March 21, 2008

9:57 a.m.

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reality_incarnate writes:

Come and get it. I believe the lines will be blurred in the eyes of the law. It'll be civilians vs. the police. Period. Republican or not, if you're fighting, you're the enemy. So I recommend staying behind the front line, where the real battle will ensue. You want to shed blue blood? It'll be there, by the gallons.
March 21, 2008

10:01 a.m.

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reality_incarnate writes:

I hate to make it seem like I think violence is permissible in this situation, but I'm only seeing one person posting on BEHALF of violence. And he sounds republican. So I will throw my hat in the ring for the Dem side.
March 21, 2008

10:07 a.m.

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ParkHillPosse writes:

Recreate 68: you bunch of scraggly, filthy, violent hippies. If I see any of you dirty protesters damaging my lovely city of Denver, including Civic Center Park, I'm going to cut off your dreadlocks and feed you to the police dogs.
March 21, 2008

10:10 a.m.

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nowhearthis writes:

Sounds like the Natives (republicans) are nervous. They sound so tuff on a RMN internet blog! I'm going to hurt people from my desk, behind my computer!
March 21, 2008

10:44 a.m.

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nowhearthis writes:

zogstrapped,
Act like what, making empty, anonymous threats while electronically hi-fiving your computer buddys on the intranets?

Is a "ball-peen" hammer something you guys use in Dungeons and Dragons? Either way, I could see how vigilantism is the obvious solution for recreatehowIchosetointerpretwhathappenedin68. More violence.
March 21, 2008

12:11 p.m.

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wow writes:

nowhearthis---
The Republicans aren't nervous, but justifiably ticked off about this bozo and his comedy troupe, as are Democrats, and Independants, myself included. We all have something in common. Your buddy Glenn is threatening to destroy the peace and safety of OUR city because he, like some others, is too much of a child to participate in our political process any other way.
You think that's funny? You think it's all about Republican bashing?
Don't you dare suggest that these jerks will be out demonstrating for the good of the Troops, or against injustices committed by the Bush administration. They don't give a damn. They are out to start a fight, period. Look at the NAME.
I personally hope Glenn is sitting in a cell on charges of conspiracy to engage in domestic terrorism long before the DNC comes to town. The fact that he is breathing the same air as me makes me want to wear a gas mask.
March 21, 2008

12:17 p.m.

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SP45 writes:

reality_incarnate,

So just to get this straight, you're throwing in your hat to show support for the dems by saying "You want to shed blue blood? It'll be there, by the gallons."? I'm sure they are proud to have their voice in this be someone who is either trying to threaten republicans with violence or is stating that it's ok to spill police blood. Whichever one is the point your trying to make, I'm sure the democrats are real happy to see your idiotic comments pop up in support of them. Trust me, Denver PD has a reputation for dealing with idiots like you at protests like this. I've got a funny feeling that no matter how much damage you and your friends cause, at the end of the DNC, Denver PD and the other agencies will have you guys in your proper place. Sitting in a jail cell for felony assault when you try to "spill blue blood."
March 21, 2008

12:40 p.m.

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Theoldguy writes:

This is so terribly pathetic. I see visions of Roosevelt and the Free Lunch. The weaning process was retarded when Johnson went whole hog with his Great Society program. It seems like the democrats are still searching for the "Mythical Tit of Government". Obama and Clinton seem to be falling on their socialist butts. McCain is the reality that you have to deal with life by yourself.
Now if these out-of-state jerks think they can trash Denver ala the '68 Democratic Convention I hope the Denver Police do get some dogs for "crowd control". I'd like to be invited to use my horse to help. She can't bite, but with shoes on......ouch. My only hope is that whatever legal battles follow, the lawyers for the defendants will be unable to find a jury friendly to their client.
March 21, 2008

12:47 p.m.

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wow writes:

"Our national gaurd has enough to do"
Agreed, heartily.
"The dems need to clean up their own mess."
How about expecting the group who is ACTUALLY responsible for their twisted ideologies, Recreate 68, to take responsibility for themselves?
No where have I read that Democrats advocate this kind of nonsense.
Our Senators and thier staffers, do not advocate anything remotely like this.
Party bashing is in fact leads to this crap.
So if we can't agree,we will wind up brawling in the streets?
I don't think that's how either party's supporters are expected to behave.
March 21, 2008

1:46 p.m.

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ManginoTorreta writes:

This is why I thought Hick was nuts for trying to get the DNC to come here--anybody whose watched these protests for the last few years should realize that not all of them are simply looking to "make their dissent heard," but are looking for any excuse to cause havoc so they have some scintilla of meaning to their otherwise worthless existence. The Recreate 68 crowd has been threatening violence for quite some time and I doubt getting a permit to protest would have lessened their rheotoric one iota.

I'm staying the heck away from Denver when this three-ring circus rolls into town; why the heck would I want to potentially put my friends and family in harm's way if, god forbid, a riot breaks out?

Oh, and Glenn? Unless you want McCain to be elected, you'll stop acting like a spoiled brat and find other means of voicing your dissent. Maybe join with one of the groups that is, you know, NOT threatening to burn the city down?
March 21, 2008

1:54 p.m.

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cterryr2 writes:

"Re-create 68 does not influence our plans," LOL! It will when the cloud of tear gas, police and emergency personal roll in!

SET OUR FREEDOMS FREE!
March 21, 2008

2:13 p.m.

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Shaupeen writes:

NotChasB, did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were young?
March 21, 2008

2:33 p.m.

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HankRearden writes:

Why is rioting illegal? It is just two or more people exercising their free speech?
March 21, 2008

2:34 p.m.

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wow writes:

NCB--
Blahblahblah.....
Remember that party bashing is an acceptable form of communication next time its yours getting bashed.
Oh, that's right, I forgot. No Party would claim you for fear of the embarrasment your frequent ignorant, hateful ranting will bring them. You're a reject. Just like Glenn and his pals. Just like Reverend Write. Just like Pat Robertson. Just like Jerry Falwell.
You're also probably a closet member of some extremist, terrorist organisation aren't you?
I like every other Republican I have ever met. I just don't like you.
Respectfully,
your favorite Godless whore monger
March 21, 2008

2:49 p.m.

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ruckus writes:

NotChasB,

LOL @ birds of the feather flock together.

The Dems and Repubs are just as bad as eachother. Both like to point the hypocritical finger. We got anti-homosexual republicans soliciting gay sex in public restrooms. We got Dems previously battling prostitution rings and then start soliciting prostitution with tax dollars. All the conservatives here do as much bitching as the Dems neither side is better than the other. A two-headed pig on the same payroll. Fact is we need change so f*ck the status quo.
March 21, 2008

2:52 p.m.

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ruckus writes:

This political race is like the special Olympics. It doesn't matter who wins; you're still a retard. (unfortunately)
March 21, 2008

3:24 p.m.

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Brain writes:

Re-create Aliance was already going to "create" a violent riot; not getting a permit is just a justification (in their eyes) for their violence. I would not consider giving a group a permit to commit crimes in the name of "free speech" in the first place, there are many people to consider not just protesters.

I agree with ManginoTorreta; I have no plans to be anywhere near the convention.
March 21, 2008

4:06 p.m.

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POHA writes:

I'm absolutely amazed at how you all are working yourselves into an utter tizzy over this whole thing. You know what causes riots? Emotions and people who don't know how to control them! Grow up! I don't care what political party you're from, I can respect your right to your own opinion. I don't care what religion you believe in. I don't care how much pigment your skin is. We're all here for a limited amount of time, and if we can't figure out how to get along with each other, then how the **** are we supposed to figure out how we're going to handle the rest of our major politics? Geez.
March 21, 2008

5:12 p.m.

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XX writes:

Why don't the people involved in Re-Create 68 quit their winning and act like adults?! If they really want to confront the police of this city, then let them see where it gets them. They are being childish cry babies since they didn't get their way with a fair election. Wait until another republican is elected to the White House, then they can whine some more.
March 21, 2008

5:14 p.m.

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davies writes:

I second POHA. You kids go to your rooms until you can learn to behave, and no TV or Internet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 21, 2008

5:26 p.m.

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mtnsrfer writes:

nowhearthis, ever worked with your hands before? Do you seriously not know what a ball-peen hammer is? It is a wonderful bludgening device for working metal, or a hippies head.
March 21, 2008

11:27 p.m.

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clyde writes:

A Little FYI. Almost every Law Enforcement and Emergency Response agency has cancelled ALL vacations at the end of August, just in case. If this gets out of hand, you will see THOUSANDS of LEOs from all over the state. There'll be plenty of cops to go around.
March 21, 2008

11:30 p.m.

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HolierThanThou writes:

Recreate 68 is probably a front organization for violent Republican conservatives. If the conservative terrorist, Timothy McVeigh, was still breathing air then he'd sign up with them in a Chicago second.

Even liberals can be idiots. I've met a few. Although almost all liberals tend to be smarter and more sensible than conservatives, there are still a number of stupid ones who need to be taken aside and have the facts of life explained to them. It's the human condition, bad breeding, dumb genes, head injuries, too much booze or dope, whatever.

Start a public organization for any good purpose and try to keep it cretin free. You'll see what I mean.

Good thing their permit was yanked. I'd have cheated them out with the lottery myself. If they want to make a stink and start trouble in the wrong place then Colorado's progressives might like to save the cops some dirty work and give those peckerwoods a liberal beating ourselves.
March 22, 2008

2:50 a.m.

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mtnsrfer writes:

Yeah, I've met a few idiot liberals myself. I know there are a bunch of cons that are wacky preachers, but extreme libs take the cake( your gonna have to be taxed for that!). When I hear the things these arse holes do to instill peace I want to puke.

Barfalomew Esq. III
March 22, 2008

10:48 a.m.

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Roadside_Boom writes:

It's official. The fix is in for McCain.

The imperial establishment needs to make the phoney election look legit, so they're getting the Dems to take the fall with a brokered, riotous convention. The Rethuglicans can then say, "See they can't even run a convention, let alone a country." All the backroom deals between opposite sides of the same rapacious, race war party have left the Dems with Congress and a few governorships, while the Republicans get the White House. Any citizen with half a functioning brain cell isn't fooled by all this white noise about candidates and elections.

The upside is that McCain will get more Ugly Amerikans killed in white power crusades that will drain the imperial coffers like a crack addict with a stolen ATM card. Combine that with infrastructure-rotting, corporate corruption and a McCain White House brings the Amerikan empire down far faster than an Obama/Clinton, kinder-gentler one.

And this simple calculus doesn't even include the inevitable, foreign policy blowback (see 9-11).

Yep. Send Amerika Down the Drain! Vote for McCain.

So let the tear gas fly; its just rock concert special effects designed to make the whole phoney spectacle look real. Police riots - staged or not - will cost the city of Denver millions in protestor lawsuits, which will tie up Colorado's courts for years, and make our necropolitan robber barons regret they ever invited the DNC donkeys to town.
March 22, 2008

11:35 a.m.

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kathyM writes:

Yeah, right. Hillary and Barack are closet Republicans helping to rig the election. They also suppressed proof of Bigfoot, UFOs, the Bermuda Triangle, and Santa Claus.
April 21, 2008

1:18 p.m.

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cargo_cult writes:

COINTELPRO 1968?

Hey, welcome to COINTELPRO 2008: 40 years and still going strong.

I hope people here have red a few John Le Carre novels so that I don't have to sit down and explain what "cover" is or what an "agent provocateur" is - and yes, I'm totally against the Iraq war, and yes, I think the Dever cops should taze these little false-front Republican-hired provocateurs until they howl for mercy... though I know it's wrong to do things like that, in this case I am oh-so-tempted to make an exception.

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Protesters rip DNC lottery

Group: 'Dangerous situation' created after loss of permit

By Daniel J. Chacon, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)

Published March 21, 2008 at 1:22 a.m.Updated March 21, 2008 at 7:10 a.m.

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Published March 21, 2008 at 1:22 a.m.
Updated March 21, 2008 at 7:10 a.m.