McCain talks up economy during Colorado swing
By Roger Fillion, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)
Published July 30, 2008 at 11:10 a.m.
Updated July 30, 2008 at 7:08 p.m.
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Republican presidential candidate John McCain speaks at Wagner Equipment in Aurora.
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Republican presidential candidate John McCain speaks at Wagner Equipment in Aurora today. He addressed the energy crisis and the state of the economy.
AURORA Republican presidential hopeful John McCain talked up the economy on a swing through Colorado, declaring Wednesday he opposes raising taxes and wants to boost oil production at home.
The Arizona senator sought to show he would do a better job at weaning the nation off foreign oil than his expected Democratic opponent in the November election, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama.
"We ought to start drilling for more oil at home, including offshore. Senator Obama opposes that," the presumptive GOP nominee told an audience of about 400 employees of Wagner Equipment Co., a Caterpillar dealership located here.
It was McCain's second visit to Colorado in less than a week. Recent polls suggest McCain's support of increased domestic oil production has given him a boost in this battleground state, where $4-a-gallon gasoline has been a major concern among voters.
During his town hall-style meeting at Wagner Equipment, McCain said he would support building 45 nuclear power plants in the United States by 2030 and he endorsed renewable power.
"I would like to show the world we are on a clear path toward energy independence," McCain told the gathered workers, many seated and standing on huge Caterpillar earth-moving vehicles.
Wearing a dark suit and red tie, McCain also attempted to allay conservative Republicans' recent grumblings over his stand on taxes.
The Arizona senator — who concluded his two-day Colorado trip Wednesday — signaled last weekend he may be open to a higher payroll tax for Social Security. That came despite repeated vows not to raise taxes.
"I will not raise your taxes or support a tax increase," McCain told the Wager Equipment audience. "I am opposed to raising taxes on Social Security."
Recent polling data suggest the presidential race in Colorado is a tight one. A poll released last week showed McCain has made big gains among Colorado voters in the past month and is now neck-and-neck with Obama.
The Quinnipiac University poll put McCain the top choice among 46 percent of likely Colorado voters compared with 44 percent for Obama.
A month ago, Obama held a 49-44 percent lead over McCain in the same poll.
Analysts suggested McCain's bump could reflect his support of increased domestic oil drilling, a view many Coloradans share.
Colorado Democrats immediately shot back at McCain's energy stance, saying the Republican party prioritizes oil industry profits over progress.
"John McCain has yet to offer a plan that would reduce gas prices and improve our economy, just more of the same windfalls for oil and gas executives," Colorado Democratic Party Chair Pat Waak said in a statement.
Before his town hall meeting, McCain and his wife, Cindy, toured the Wagner Equipment facilities for about 20 minutes.
McCain ignored a reporter's question about the indictment of Sen. Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, who faces charges of lying about accepting gifts from oil services contractor Veco Corp. Stevens is indicted on seven felony counts.
Earlier in the day, McCain met privately with Denver Roman Catholic Archbishop Charles Chaput. The campaign and archdiocese declined to discuss the meeting.
After arriving in Denver on Tuesday, McCain raised $3.2 million at a fundraiser at the home of investor Charlie Gallagher. Guests received gift-wrapped copies of McCain's "Faith of Our Fathers."
McCain was traveling later Wednesday to a fundraiser in Kansas City, Mo.
McCain's trip to Colorado — his seventh this political season — came as his campaign rolled out a TV ad attacking Obama, likening him to celebrities Paris Hilton and Britney Spears.
The ad — to air in Colorado and other battleground states — was dubbed "Celeb" and follows on the heel's of Obama's high-profile trip to the Middle East and Europe.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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July 30, 2008
11:26 a.m.
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junglegymco writes:
McSame - Spreading lies about offshore drilling, ANWR and O'bama. Offshore drilling will NOT impact current prices, will take DECADES TO COME TO FRUITION and will do VIRTUALLY NOTHING to reduce our dependcy on foreign oil. (See: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25287795/ )
And to blame a FIRST TERM Senator (O'bama) for high oil prices?! PLEASE! I'd say the old Washington Insider McSame who's voted for big oil for years and years is MUCH MORE TO BLAME.
STOP THE LIES, JOHNNY!
July 30, 2008
11:37 a.m.
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DenverDan writes:
Is it true that he does not know how to use a computer?
July 30, 2008
11:39 a.m.
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MrJim writes:
jungledummy, get a clue. Lifting the ban on drilling will have an inpact the day it is done. Siting one of BHO's surrogate media stories has absolutly no credibility. It make 2 - 5 years to see the oil, but the impact of lifting the ban both offshore and in the barron arctic portion of ANWR will drop the oil price $20 - $30 just on speculation. Nothing, NOTHING BHO has proposed will have an impact at all, he is banking our energy future and independance on totally unproven technologies which will take way longer than offshore drilling to have any impact.
July 30, 2008
11:55 a.m.
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junglegymco writes:
MrJimDunce -
You're a moron. The story about offshore drilling not helping, either short or long term, comes directly from MSNBC - hardly a media outlet O'bama controls, as you somehow insinuate. And as you note, it's SPECULATORS, not REAL effect, that falsely drives up oil prices. Just like our housing bubble. The dems have rightfully introduced legislation to control some of the speculators so that those of us who are not multi-millionaires with access to the Futures market, might be able to afford a tank of gas. Not surprisingly, the Republicants have blocked it. God forbid the wealthy shouldn't be able to make even MORE money on the backs of the middle class. The REAL solution, is to work at reducing our consumption and exploring ALTERNATIVE FUELS. You do understand that in even the BEST case scenario, there's only about 100 years left of oil left IN THE WORLD?! STOP PUTTING OFF SOLUTIONS ONTO THE BACKS OF OUR KIDS AND GRANDHILDREN, AND WAKE UP! NOW IS THE TIME TO SERIOUSLY CHANGE ENERGY USEAGE.
McSame- Helping Rich, Wealthy, White Guys since 1967.
July 30, 2008
12:13 p.m.
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DenverDan writes:
Froward69
DenverDan writes:
"Is it true that he does not know how to use a computer?"
This is who people want to brings us into Y2k. A man who can’t check or send E-mail. A man who could not post a comment on this issue. I guess he will get the Bush treatment “Its OK he is a Republican".
July 30, 2008
12:20 p.m.
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Cwillyrun1 writes:
junglegym......... we've already heard that there was only so many years of oil left before there was none to remove from the ground. Those estimates said we'd be out of oil by now, but for some reason, we have to think there's still oil left for the present and future, right? It's possible you don't have an understanding of the history of it, but I do. Maybe you should "learn how to use a computer" and find out.
If you think MSNBC is not biased, try again. If there's opportunities to drill for oil and reduce prices in the future, it's worth the effort instead of sticking a head in the sand, like that great Democrat Nancy Pelosi.
I remember when Natural Gas was the alternative energy to coal, but what happened with Natural Gas? Wind power has been identified as only being a drop in a large bucket as a solution, and none other than Ted Kennedy, another great Democrat, whined about windmills planned on Cape Hyannis in Massachussetts because they'd ruin his sailing experiences if he had to see them. I'm all for renewable energies, but ones that make sense. Wind and solar are minimally effective at this time. But I'm sure the Democrats don't mind the high prices for alternative energy they'd like to force on the middle class and the poor, do you?
Anyway, if Obama has his way, oil companies will pay a windfall tax that'll be passed onto consumers and then the consumers will end up paying more for gas and oil than what is necessary. I think it's funny you liberals use the label "McSame" for McCain. Guess it's because you're johnny come lately to the table for informed people. Him and Bush had different ideas that resulted in opposition to each other on subjects over the years, but hey, that fantasy sure sounds good. Still, I'd rather have a President more like Bush (McCain) than a President more like Jimmy Carter (Obama). Carter was the worst President of the 20th Century, easily.
July 30, 2008
12:27 p.m.
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MrJim writes:
Jungledummy, I have no problem w/ the development of alternatives, I'm all for it, but it is moronic to leave us in a position of being 90% dependant on non-domestic sources while alternatives are being developed. If you think all we need are a few hybrids and we're good to go, then you have a very poor grasp on the situation. Hybrids: Good, Solar: Good, Wind: Good, Nuclear: Good, Petroleum: VITAL. Until you can show us the wood pellet burning airplane, the solar semi-truck, and explain how the middle class is suppose to afford a new hybrid car (not too many used hybrid beaters on the market just yet) when they can't afford fuel and high food costs (brought on by the misguided corn based ethonol bandwagon, which is less 'green' than oil, but thats another topic) then pull your head out of the sand and realize it is a multi-phased fix, not just a solution of 100% new and unproven technologies.
July 30, 2008
12:28 p.m.
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MrJim writes:
Oh, and if you don't think MSNBC/GE is a BHO mouthpiece, then you are really naive.
July 30, 2008
12:59 p.m.
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DenverDan writes:
Toe,Nee,@ss,neck
You libs get mad when we say "Barack Hussain Obama" Should we just call him . . .Dumbo instead?
I like it when you say it, Say it again, this time add "your next president of the United states" at the end. We libs love it when you say it. Dumbo is the man you voted for "Twice".
July 30, 2008
1:38 p.m.
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davis_x_machina writes:
Is there a wingnut out there who has gotten beyond the elementary school playground stage?Do you guys have some elementary school online forums where you learn to compose those playground taunt nicknames?It would not surprise me and it would certainly be indicative of the general level of intellectual development among the residents of lower wingnuttistan.Maybe one of the mechanics at the Cat shop could have pointed out that Iraq and Pakistan do not share a border and that the country of Czechoslovakia has not existed for some time now.I'd think anyone who can understand the intricacies of a common rail fuel injection system is probably more knowldgeable about geography and geopolitics than the Republican wannabe.
July 30, 2008
1:56 p.m.
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LoneTreeLady75 writes:
Dear Mr. McCain,
Can you please enlighten us tax paying Americans, and let us all know your plan for combatting the MASSIVE deficit your pals have put America into?
Thank You,
A concerned Libertarian voter
July 30, 2008
1:59 p.m.
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formerdem writes:
Holy cow, if you think you are somehow sounding intelligent, I'd suggest you go back and read your comments with an open mind, not one clouded by all the media hype about Obama.
He sounds a lot like the young "savior" to Cuba sounded as well, right before he drove the country into communism and poverty. I'd suggest you read and listen to his own words and understand that his intention is to change the USA into a country few of us would recognize as a free and independent nation. He wants to be a citizen of the world, not the USA. He will destroy this country, not raise it up, his idea and he's wife's idea of change is destruction and control of our ability to profit and thrive as business owners. Open your mind and quit being a sheep before it's too late, Cuba may never recover from Fidel, we still have a chance to keep him out of the White House and must do whatever it takes to make sure he does not become our next President or he may be our last one.
July 30, 2008
2:06 p.m.
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dirkle writes:
McCain energizes "crowd" of 20! - Meanwhile shills post mindless repetitive bile about "Obamamessiah"
July 30, 2008
2:08 p.m.
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formerdem writes:
Windfall profits tax on corporations
Healthcare for all at taxpayers expense
To name a few, try reading your history and look at the two of them in contrast, they both act and sound very similar. If we don't learn from history we are doomed to repeat it.
His idea of change is not the kind we can afford or allow, control of thoughts is just one more step away from control of behavior. The liberal media is his mouth piece and controlled by those who want you to buy his BS.
Even in my disagreement with you, I would fight for your right to speak your mind. Obama would rather silence his distractors, much as Fidel has done so successfully. Your choice, a man who fought and put his life on the line for your freedom. Or a man who would rather work out than visit our soldiers without his media machine in tow.
July 30, 2008
2:11 p.m.
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lencho_elias writes:
Obama for change!!!
Poor McCain... at least he won't be inheriting the largest deficit in American history, care of our "neo-conservative" friends (what they were conservative about, I don't know...)
July 30, 2008
2:15 p.m.
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speakthetruth writes:
John McSame is so scary. He's why...
- Do you really want a President who would have power over internet regulation who doesn't even use a computer?
- Who thinks dirty old oil is the future and not solar, wind or research into other new clean technology?
- Thinks he can fix the Bush-ed up American economy, but says: "I don't really know much about the Economy?"
- Thinks and says: "Americans are better off than they were eight years ago".
- Someone who says he wants to keep American GI's stuck in Iraq for another 100 years!
- Do you really want a President who is, well, that old and out of touch?
Scary, very scary.
July 30, 2008
2:19 p.m.
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temurlan writes:
speakthetruth
Yes because the alternative would be a disaster.
July 30, 2008
2:35 p.m.
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speakthetruth writes:
temurlan,
A disaster? Oh, like the last 8 years with the Republicans running things hasn't been? I can't afford 4 more years with McSame.
Stop drinking the Kool-aid and being a Limbot.
July 30, 2008
2:39 p.m.
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TheDenverB writes:
"You libs get mad when we say "Barack Hussain Obama""
nobody is mad.
it just gets old and we think you look like a third-grader who has nothing else to attack but the man's name by associating Hussein (one of the most popular names in the world) with him and Saddam Hussein (who, need i remind you all, wasn't a threat to us either...)
i mean, if that and the man's minister are STILL the only two major issues conservatives on this site like to go after -- then this election is going to be a cakewalk for the man as it's clear there's not much left to grasp onto for the GOP.
July 30, 2008
2:41 p.m.
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TheDenverB writes:
http://action.credomobile.com/comics/...
^ I think that cartoon sums up a lot of our feelings, actually.
July 30, 2008
2:43 p.m.
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MrJim writes:
you missed one 69:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7...
July 30, 2008
2:49 p.m.
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coloradovet writes:
Dear Gene,
Do you like how things are right now? If so, go ahead and vote for McBush and his 100 million dollar wife! I'm sure they don't mind how things are right now either.
July 30, 2008
2:56 p.m.
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SlouchingTowardBoulder writes:
As an independent I really like the way that McCain takes shots at both sides. His very independence is what attracts me.
July 30, 2008
2:59 p.m.
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dilligaf writes:
Did he inform these workers he will do all he can to keep their wages down and support giving their company record profits and tax cuts? Did he tell them that their health care premiums will continue to skyrocket and most are one layoff away from loosing it all together? Did he tell them the chances are higher then ever that these layoffs will happen because under his buddy Bush our economy is in the tank? Did he tell them if they don't get lay ed off their wages will never keep up with the cost of gas, health care, food, & housing and they will fall further & further behind? Did he tell them that only the owners and executives will be able to send their children to college? I could probably go on but you cons will have a tough time trying to turn these into Democrats fault. Because nothing that has gone on over the last 7 yrs. is Georgy boys fault
July 30, 2008
3 p.m.
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DenverDan writes:
McCain hates white people and puppies.
July 30, 2008
3:03 p.m.
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purplewolf writes:
Dear Mr. McCain,
How can you be trusted after your involvement in the Keating Five scandal, after you abandon your first wife due to her car accident for your current wife who was caught stealing drugs from a charity?
Who one associates with reflects their own character.
You make jokes about a presidents daughter,,ie,,
"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Because her father is Janet Reno."
And you make light of starting wars by singing little ditties,,ie,,"Bomb Bomb Iran?"
One might grow old, but they can remain immature indefinitely, and maturity is one of the most important signs of a leader.
July 30, 2008
3:09 p.m.
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dilligaf writes:
purplewolf
Don't you realize that his first wife after her accident was attractive enough for him anymore? Plus she didn't have the money this one has. Money is the most important thing in the life of a republican.
July 30, 2008
3:17 p.m.
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coloradovet writes:
Purplewolf,
Nice! My sentiments exactly! This guy has coasted through life on his daddy's stars and his wife's inheritence. Now, of course, he thinks he's entitled to be the President. I don't even get the feeling he really wants it that bad either. Why would we elect someone like this, who graduated bottom of his class, when we can have someone who was head of the Harvard law review and got to where he is based on merit. GO OBAMA!!!
July 30, 2008
3:22 p.m.
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formerdem writes:
Not one of you liberal fools will recognize the truth. When you raise taxes on business, those taxes are passed to the consumer. When you force health care costs to be paid for universal healthcare, all will have less healthcare, check out the Canadian system, the UK system if you think Universal Healthcare is such grand concept. Quit expecting the "government to take care of you", get off your victim butt and get a job. If you can't find one, change your focus, start a company, become self determining and then you'll see what all us NEOCON's like you love to call us are fighting for. Not a hand out from the bank of the IOU's that the democratic congress has created. Blame Bush all you want, but then look at the truth. Everyone of them, democratic and republican have acted like the checkbook had unlimited funds, because they are being begged by the victims in our society to keep feeding their needs. Grow up and demand that our politicians close the checkbook and begin to shrink the scope of government, not expand it.
Gotta go, you all exhust me by your desire to hate, instead of having an open mind and doing your homework instead of taking what you are being fed by media and blog bs. I am a student of history and have been since high school, I was a democrate, until I started paying taxes and started watching my money being given to those unwilling to get a job and contribute. Time will tell which of us were right and which of us were wrong.
July 30, 2008
3:28 p.m.
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Cwillyrun1 writes:
Man, I'm laughing at the idiocy of the liberals posting here. One said something about baiting racism and all that, all the while being bigoted about McCain's age. froward, that's what's called "hypocrisy". Not "Hippocrates" like what you posted earlier........ remember, he's an ancient scholar. Too many sheep, only a few shepherds. Obama is not the shepherd I want for my country. He has racist associates, who hate "whitey".... as they call those who are not the same skin color. He wants to tax and tax (and don't give me links, I've already read enough to know what the truth is and what the spin is). I could go on, but why. He's just not intelligent enough to understand the big picture of the United States' role in the world.
purplewolf, you say, " Who one associates with reflects their own character." How do you feel about Obama associating with racists? How do you feel about Obama wanting to associate with countries harboring terrorists and people who want to kill off Americans? Did you trust Bill Clinton after he cheated on his wife, in the White House of all places? Did you trust Bill Clinton after he said, "I did not inhale" when anyone who's ever smoked anything knows that comment was BS? Did you trust Bill Clinton after the Whitewater scandal? See how that works both ways?
Posters talk about money with McCain, but isn't Obama's net worth more than McCain's? So who's the rich man in the Presidential race?
artstarzz, we can't thank Obama for the prices at the pump being slightly lower. When he mentioned his plan for windfall taxes on oil companies, the price kept going higher. When Bush and the Republicans talked about opening areas for drilling, the price went down. Again, see how that works?
You libs make it too easy............ you like to point fingers but if the finger points back, you have issues with accepting what comes your way.
July 30, 2008
3:32 p.m.
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coloradovet writes:
Formerdem, you got it all mixed up. When you make everyone, including the rich, pay their fair share of taxes, you reduce the national debt, which reduces interest rates, which reduces mortgage payments and credit card debts. And, you get educational loans, which reduces the cost of sending your kids to college, which leaves you more money to pay for your health care. You also get better infrastructure, which means less state taxes, and more construction jobs. You see, us people who do have jobs, and are working harder than ever, would like to see a little more at the end of the month, and we get that by putting the burden back on those who are have taken part in the largest transfer of wealth in history. Formerdem, we had the best economy ever under Clinton, and a Surplus to boot. You are wrong. Quit drinking the Kool-Aid!
July 30, 2008
3:34 p.m.
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Cwillyrun1 writes:
formerdem, excellent post at 3:22. What these people don't get is the Democrat and Republican politicians at the national level are more like each other than they are like us. They don't have to worry about the things we worry about.
In regards to universal healthcare, I'd like anyone who is willing..... to explain how the universal healthcare model Masschussetts uses is acceptable. That plan, after a few years, has left the state in such a huge deficit that they're now asking the federal government for a bailout. If the federal government used universal healthcare, and it left the nation in a huge deficit, who's going to bail the U.S. government out?
July 30, 2008
3:42 p.m.
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Cwillyrun1 writes:
artstarzz, if the taxes are too high, then companies go out of business....... just like you lose your house if the payments are too high and you simply cannot afford to make the payments. That leaves less choices, and it results in higher prices because of less competition. This is a Republic, not a democracy or a socialist society. It's based on capitalism, and if you don't like it, you can find a country that fits your needs and move there. By the way, did you notice how irrelevant unions are, especially as time goes by? Unions....... a Democrat favorite, just don't have much of a purpose anymore. Unions used to be big, but, as an example, unions are what's causing GM, Ford and Dodge to close plants and lay off people, all while Toyota enjoys improving sales.
July 30, 2008
3:43 p.m.
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coloradovet writes:
You con nuts just don't get it. Your mortgage payments, your healthcare, your credit card bills, and your gas money, all your hard earned money is going into the hands of a tiny percentage of americans who have gotten even richer under Bush's tax cuts. Come on, how much more money did the average american get under Bush. How much more did the Exxon or Fannie Mae CEO get? The poor in America are subsidizing tax breaks for the rich! Shouldn't it be the other way around?
July 30, 2008
3:47 p.m.
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Cwillyrun1 writes:
froward, what's been debunked (jay's favorite lame word that you're now using, lol)? You didn't answer how Massachussetts failed universal healthcare plan sounds good. I think it's funny when you talk about stupid also........ you're the last person to understand facts or reason, and it's why you're the most ridiculed poster on these boards. As Forrest Gump said, and as you fully understand and can relate to, "Stupid is as stupid does". Go ahead and vote for Obama, it won't matter. In the end, he won't be President. Not all Americans are fooled as easily as you.
July 30, 2008
3:51 p.m.
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DenverDan writes:
That is so cool, there was at least 100 people there. 50 more votes than I thought he would get.
Obama 08
July 30, 2008
3:52 p.m.
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MrJim writes:
keep your head in the sand 69, NoBama can just have a hug-fest w/ Iran and all will be Ok. Good plan.
July 30, 2008
3:56 p.m.
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Cwillyrun1 writes:
Actually forward, healthcare is one word. Try again. (I know full well how to spell it, and I'm not the one with spelling and grammar problems like you ("Hippocrates", LMAO)....... please don't try to build your ego up when you don't have what it takes) Oh, and if I type fast enough to add an extra s in, big deal........ you still own the short bus and ride it all by yourself, with an occasional lift for jay, dilligaf and artstarzz.
Funny how you said without our system of healthcare, we're a third rate country, yet you prefer that of other countries. Maybe you'd like to move to Great Britain then?
July 30, 2008
3:59 p.m.
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purplewolf writes:
Cwillyrun1
What? My post was not about Clinton or Obama. My post was addressing John McCain. You are twisting my post to attack liberals? For one thing, Democrats are not "liberals?
That was part of the two party scheme which was created after the third party threat of Nader opened their eyes to unrest in electorate.
As for the lesser of two evils, I would choose a man of education over rich boy at the bottom of his class who was pawn in the military. McCain=FAIL(+ 1)
July 30, 2008
4:01 p.m.
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Diff writes:
HOW bad it would be if Obama were to be elected? - could it be worse that the IDIOT we have now in the White House?
I think not!
Even McCain/McSame would be preferable to W . . . .
But if the only way McCain can get elected is by "fear" of Obama that is REALLY pathetic!
John McCain is all in all an honorable guy - But Obama at least has the possibility to take the country to a new and better level.
What we have been doing for the past 20 or 30 years has not worked out all that well! War, deficit ( except during the Clinton years) and now the largest deficit ever, an attach on NY, another energy cruch, and a economic down turn and most of that time with a republican President and or Congress too!
It is time for us to TRY something different!
Doing the same things the same way over and over and over and each time expecting a better result - is one definition of INSANITY.
Let's END the INSANITY!
Obama '08
01-20-2008
the end of an Error
July 30, 2008
4:05 p.m.
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DenverDan writes:
Cwillyrun1
You voted for Jr. "TWICE" I guess that qualify’s you as an expert for what is best for all of us. You people voted for where we are now. Thanks, but I want change.
Obama 08
July 30, 2008
4:36 p.m.
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Diff writes:
At least they where smart enough not to let him drive any equipment while there - he can't use a a PC and after all before 'NAM he crashed 4 or 5 US Navy planes . . . .
Actually driving todays big equipment is more like a video or PC game than driving anything - especial if it is GPS controlled!
July 30, 2008
4:51 p.m.
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TheDenverB writes:
"unions are what's causing GM, Ford and Dodge to close plants and lay off people, all while Toyota enjoys improving sales."
no, quality vehicles and good business are doing that for Toyota.
July 30, 2008
4:54 p.m.
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TheDenverB writes:
Gene,
i just have to say this and it truly has little to do with this article:
you are a freakin' joke with your lengthening pet name for Obama. It really seems like a 3rd grader who has a crush on a girl and calls her names to hide that fact.
If you truly think you have good points and arguments, how about you start expressing them like an adult -- because you do nothing to improve the face of the GOP with the way you behave around here.
July 30, 2008
5:09 p.m.
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jay writes:
"I think it's funny you liberals use the label "McSame" for McCain."
you think its funny that mccain is going to continue the failed policies of bush?
lucky for us, the vast majority of americans don't share your sense of humor.
i didn't think we still had folks who were refusing to acknowledge The McSame Effect.
cwilly...shall we go over it one more time so there's no confusion that mccain represents a third bush term?
July 30, 2008
5:39 p.m.
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jay writes:
lived through it but WAY too young to have been working.
fortunately for us, skye, obama's policies most closely mirror those of clinton's....not carter's...so i'm going to cut you off before you make a fool out of yourself and try to claim differently.
furthermore, since mccain represents a third bush term and obama most closely represents a third clinton term...we can look at their respective policies' track records to determine which have been better for the country.
the numbers speak for themselves:
http://www.dems.gov/index.asp?Type=B_...{D68CD0B2-1442-4804-9F6B-AF67DE7FF585}&DE={FDD09C4F-E958-4E13-A92B-179C2FAC6FEA}&Design=PrintView
July 30, 2008
5:42 p.m.
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dilligaf writes:
Sure is funny to me that when Obama shows up somewhere there are thousands showing up to see and hear him. But when McSame shows up there is only hundreds. But all the cons claim that McSame is even or ahead in the polls. How the heck does that work?
July 30, 2008
6:26 p.m.
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gale writes:
Some crowd I see there....less than 200?
The 'crowd' Obama draws ex:75,000 in Portland, Or. or 200,000 in Germany, is an example of an energized crowd.
July 30, 2008
7:57 p.m.
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TheTruthHurts writes:
I find this to be amusing..
Liberals on this blog are touting McCain as a mirror image of Bush.
Good interpretation if you follow the media like the Bible.
Liberals...do us a favor...look before you leap...the jagged edges of lies can kill any argument you put forth in debate.
Don't commit political suicide
July 30, 2008
8:12 p.m.
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TheTruthHurts writes:
jay
Can't you post any source that is not biased.
I guess spoon-fed crap from your party tastes better than the sweet truth that conservatives put on the table.
How about looking up facts from someone like O'Reilly...at least then you might actually think like him instead of pretending.
Just a thought...though most likely a tarnished thought in your collection of prejudice rejects.
July 30, 2008
8:15 p.m.
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TheTruthHurts writes:
Charles_B
Why don't you become an adult and find out. Hey, that's what a brain is for...learning. And to learn...you need to do research. Fascinating isn't it.
The More You Know :)
July 30, 2008
8:19 p.m.
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TheTruthHurts writes:
jay
By the way...answer this question...
What is Obama's plan to help our economy?
Put effort into the research....I am a picky grader when it comes to research assignments.
July 31, 2008
12:25 p.m.
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jay writes:
wow....the wingnuts are up in arms because the track record of obama's policy stances is much more successful than the track record of mccain/bush.
why fight against reality?
just makes you look like a partisan hack.
third clinton term vs. a third bush term.
here are those numbers again:
http://www.dems.gov/index.asp?Type=B_...{D68CD0B2-1442-4804-9F6B-AF67DE7FF585}&DE={FDD09C4F-E958-4E13-A92B-179C2FAC6FEA}&Design=PrintView
data isn't "biased".
July 31, 2008
12:44 p.m.
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Hi writes:
"the presumptive GOP nominee told an audience of about 400 employees of Wagner Equipment Co., a Caterpillar dealership located here."
"At another private event on Wednesday morning, McCain will talk to workers at Wagner Equipment Co. about tax cuts for small businesses and ways to conserve energy, his campaign said. At Wagner, which sells and rents Cat machines used in heavy construction, mining and waste handling, McCain will discuss retrofitting old engines in order to cut pollution and energy costs. The event is not open to the public." - The Denver Post
It was a private event. That might explain the number of people that attended.
July 31, 2008
12:47 p.m.
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jay writes:
for some reason the rmn software isn't posting that link correctly.
here's the full link with the data from those evil, "biased" folks over at the
Bureau of Economic Analysis
Department of Treasury
Congressional Budget Office
Bureau of Labor Statistics
United States Census Bureau
http://www.dems.gov/index.asp?Type=B_...{D68CD0B2-1442-4804-9F6B-AF67DE7FF585}&DE={FDD09C4F-E958-4E13-A92B-179C2FAC6FEA}&Design=PrintView
July 31, 2008
12:56 p.m.
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jay writes:
the damn link still isn't being posted correctly...so here are the actual numbers. pretty tough to justify a vote for the policies that brought us the second set of figures under republican rule.
REAL GDP GROWTH1
4.09% Over Prior 8 Years
2.65% Over Prior 7 Years
NATIONAL DEBT
$5.7 Trillion
$9.2 Trillion
BUDGET DEFICIT/SURPLUS
$431 Billion Surplus over the Previous Three Budget Years
$734 Billion Deficit over the Previous Three Budget Years
JOBS CREATED
1.76 Million Jobs Per Year
369,000 Jobs Per Year
AMERICANS IN POVERTY
31.6 Million
36.5 Million
AMERICANS UNINSURED & CHANGE IN UNINSURED LEVEL
38 Million Uninsured
47 Million Uninsured
4.5 Million Less in 2 Years
8.5 Million More in 6 Years
ANNUAL TOTAL PREMIUM COST
$6,230 for Family Premium
$12,106 for Family Premium
MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME & CHANGE IN MEDIAN INCOME
$49,163
$48,023
$6,000 Increase in 8 Years
$1,100 Decrease in 7 Years
PRICE OF GAS
$1.39/Gallon
$4.07/Gallon
COST OF COLLEGE
$3,164 per year
$5,192 per year
PERSONAL SAVINGS RATE
+2.3%
-0.5%
CONSUMER CREDIT DEBT
$7.65 Trillion
$12.8 Trillion
U.S. TRADE DEFICIT
$380 Billion
$759 Billion
STRENGTH OF U.S. DOLLAR
1.07 Euros per Dollar
0.68 Euros Per Dollar
COMBAT READINESS
All Active Duty Army Divisions Were Rated At The Highest Readiness Levels
Not A Single Active Duty Or Reserve Brigade In The U.S. Considered “Fully Combat Ready.”
FOREIGN OIL DEPENDENCY
52.75% of U.S. Liquid Fuel Consumption is Imported
60.38% of U.S. Liquid Fuel Consumption is Imported
VIEW OF AMERICA ABROAD
PEW POLL OF TEN NATIONS
58.3% Viewed America Favorably
39.2% Viewed America Favorably
GREAT BRITAIN’S VIEW OF U.S.
83% Favorable
56% Favorable
INDONESIA’S VIEW OF U.S.
75% Favorable
30% Favorable
TURKEY’S VIEW OF U.S.
52% Favorable
12% Favorable
GERMANY’S VIEW OF U.S.
78% Favorable
37% Favorabl
July 31, 2008
2:06 p.m.
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RockyMtnMac writes:
Holy Cow! I did not know the president had all that power! Thank you Jay. All this time I thought Congress had the power to do all those things! It's a darn good thing Nancy Pelosi and the gang have not done any of those things! President Bush is like the most powerful single evil force on planet earth! (I thought you libs thought he wasn't so smart?) mmmm - so ALL Powerful AND dumb?
July 31, 2008
2:24 p.m.
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jay writes:
i guess when you can't defend the republican track record the last option is to try to blame it on someone else.
wouldn't it be nice if just once the republicans could campaign on their own performance instead of running from it?
July 31, 2008
2:42 p.m.
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RockyMtnMac writes:
Now Jay, I'm not defending the Republicans. I'm just curious which one of the House Bills or Senate Bills written by President Bush was responsible for all of those problems? He should not be allowed to write any more of those!!!
July 31, 2008
2:57 p.m.
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jay writes:
mac, i guess i'm not quite sure what to say other than the republicans controlled all three branches of gov't while the Track Record was being built.
just not a lot of wiggle room there.
you have to wonder if voting for someone who is going to continue the same failed republican policies is a wise choice. the data sure doesn't point to such a decision being an intelligent one.