'Spam King' kills family, self; U.S. attorney calls him 'a coward'
By Carrie Porter, Rocky Mountain News
Thursday, July 24, 2008
Matt McClain © The Rocky
Investigators examine the SUV where three persons were found dead near Bennett.
Photo by Chris Schneider
Arapahoe County Deputy Michael Chick stands at the road leading to a home that was the scene of a murder near Bennett.
Edward "Eddie" Davidson
BENNETT — Sunday night he pulled off a seamless escape from a prison in Florence, jumping into a 2006 silver Toyota Sequoia with his visiting wife and speeding away.
On Thursday morning, he fatally shot his wife and his toddler daughter at their former home near Bennett.
Then he killed himself.
He was Colorado's troubled "Spam King," a computer whiz who made millions only to see his life come crashing down, ending on a quiet basin of prairie.
Dirt roads carve the path to the yellow two-story house where police found the lifeless bodies of Edward Davidson, 35, and his wife and 3-year-old daughter, after responding to a call at 11:15 a.m.
Police cars and media trucks lined the 43000 block of East Arkansas Place by mid-afternoon, when the coroner arrived at the scene.
What a nightmare'
Davidson was found outside the driver's side of the vehicle, his wife by the passenger side.
A handgun lay nearby.
His dead daughter was in the back of the vehicle. A 7-month-old boy was found still strapped in his baby-seat, unharmed.
One of Davidson's bullets grazed the neck of a 14-year-old girl, who neighbors said was Davidson's oldest daughter.
She was able to escape to a neighbor's home, and was conscious enough to tell deputies what had happened before she was transported to a hospital. She was treated and released late Thursday.
"What a nightmare, and such a coward," said U.S. Attorney Troy Eid. "Davidson imposed the death penalty on family members for his own crime."
The U.S. Attorney's Office did not release the names of the wife and child, but records indicate that Davidson was married to Amy Lee Ann Hill, 29.
House sold for nearly $500,000
Davidson was sentenced April 28 to serve 21 months in federal prison for his role in sending hundreds of thousands of unsolicited fraudulent e-mails touting certain penny stocks as excellent investments.
On Sunday, Davidson escaped from a federal prison in Florence, after Hill, of Lakewood, had visited him.
Davidson allegedly jumped into Hill's vehicle after the visit and was last seen in Lakewood after dropping off Hill at her parents' home on South Fig Street. He was last seen in a 2006 silver Toyota Sequoia.
The family did not live at the home where the vehicle was found Thursday, and Arapahoe County Undersheriff Mark Campbell notified the current homeowners, who were at work at the time. The homeowners arrived on the scene with the coroner's office before the bodies were removed.
According to neighbor Wendy Garner, Julie and Roger Cook moved into the home about seven months ago.
Many nearby neighbors did not know the residents of the home and were not aware that anything was amiss until they heard sirens.
Records show that Hill had once owned the home. She sold it last October to the Cooks for nearly $500,000.
Staff writer Tillie Fong and The Associated Press contributed to this report
July 24, 2008
3:08 p.m.
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Big_D writes:
The stress of high prices, foreclosures, and increasing unemployment have played heavily in today's news stories so this may be just one more person that couldn't take it anymore. Until Americans see some change I doubt this will decline in frequency. Another lady committed suicide today because he house was being sold by the bank that foreclosed on her.
July 24, 2008
3:25 p.m.
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Squatch writes:
Man! This crap needs to stop if you want to kill yourself fine but dont take anybody with you. Just because you have nothing to live for doesnt mean you need to add to the misery. I wasnt happy when my Ex-Girlfriend decided to leave me and I couldnt be with my Daughter all the time but damn i just make sure i can get every second i can with her and do.
These stories are very sad and i wish the family members the best.
July 24, 2008
3:35 p.m.
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Squatch writes:
Artstarz he could just as easily knocked them all out and started a fire and killed them all.
should we stop selling houses, matches, lighters, gas, paper or anything else that will burn? Answer than smart guy.
July 24, 2008
3:45 p.m.
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SickNTired writes:
Squatch ... artstarzz is NOT a "smart guy," not by a long shot (sorry no pun intended).
July 24, 2008
3:47 p.m.
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redwhiteandBLUE writes:
Big_D,
A house you can replace..but not your life. I saw that story on CNN,
I know someone that lost her home. It was hard emotionally..but she sprung back..and everything is good now.
Life can be hard but you gotta be strong.
This partial story is a real tragic.
July 24, 2008
4:06 p.m.
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freedomfighter1 writes:
artstarr
People can make their own bullets. Well at least load them, and the material needed can be created easily enough, and this would be another product in the black market causing other issues.
July 24, 2008
4:18 p.m.
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BeefEaterGrins writes:
The blood of these two people is on the hands of the, "so called" prison this POS got out of...
July 24, 2008
4:21 p.m.
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Devil_Dog writes:
"The stress of high prices, foreclosures, and increasing unemployment have played heavily in today's news stories so this may be just one more person that couldn't take it anymore."
BS sorry lefty but contrary to politically correct belief EVERYONE is not a victim. IF this is a murder suicide as suspected, and IF the man killed members of his family and then himself, the only victims are his family. He needed to grow a set and take care of his family! Bad things happen to everyone. real men do not harm their three year old daughter for ANY reason they protect her with their dying breath. IF this plays out as suspected and a man killed his daughter and other members of his family I have no sympathy for him just disgust, and pity for his family.
July 24, 2008
4:21 p.m.
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KING writes:
He can't be the KING...I am the KING
of course I would never be so chicken sh*T as to off myself and take those close to me with me when i go...
on the postive side...my inbox might be a little less cluttered now.
July 24, 2008
4:22 p.m.
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Big_D writes:
Got out, you mean walked out.
July 24, 2008
4:25 p.m.
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Fireball writes:
What's with the headline: "Spam King suspected in murder-suicide."
Was this the guy that recently escaped from the prison in Florence? We obviously need a lot more information. What a dirtbag that takes out someone else instead of just himself.
July 24, 2008
4:26 p.m.
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Big_D writes:
I said MAY. I was saddened to hear the story of the foreclosure suicide today on CNN when I wrote that. This might be in the news from other sources other than the Republican Misinformed News who doesn't apparently know Obama made a speech to a cheering crowd of thousands in Germany today.
July 24, 2008
4:30 p.m.
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rmnreader writes:
Big_D - Sorry but that's just crap. If you are so weak that you cannot handle the ups & downs that come with this life then get out but don't take anyone else with you. Stop with the poor me attitude - everyone has a hard time once in a while - you buckle down, figure it out & move on with your life.
July 24, 2008
4:30 p.m.
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Jackieg218 writes:
ok so they think it was the spam king, why is there no mention of that in this clip? They have "Breaking News" about it but make no mention?
July 24, 2008
4:31 p.m.
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Jackieg218 writes:
umm my bad, I didnt refresh the page.
July 24, 2008
4:35 p.m.
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Scott writes:
First this pansy POS couldn't take 21 months in Club Fed, then this POS had to kill innocent people before he did society a favor by kill itself.
Burn in Hell POS!
Scott
July 24, 2008
4:37 p.m.
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Jackieg218 writes:
Why was he able to get to his family? I understand he walked from a min sec prison, but why was there not protection for the family, why didnt the cops have 24 hour watch on them? I would think that if someone broke from jail the FIRST place they would try would be home, so if I am not all that uncommon in my thinking, why were there no cops watching out for this family?
July 24, 2008
4:47 p.m.
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KarlCheney writes:
If the kids had guns this wouldn't have happened, those kids should have been armed. An armed society is a polite society.
July 24, 2008
4:49 p.m.
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Devil_Dog writes:
I said MAY. I was saddened to hear the story of the foreclosure suicide today on CNN when I wrote that. This might be in the news from other sources other than the Republican Misinformed News who doesn't apparently know Obama made a speech to a cheering crowd of thousands in Germany today.
Good then I quoted you correctly. It doesn't matter whether he was foreclosed on or was just a scumbag that's exactly my point. His duty is to protect his family not kill them! The rest of your rambling has nothing to do with this story, just more leftist smoke designed to hide the facts of life from the less knowledgeable.
July 24, 2008
4:52 p.m.
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WestminsterJ writes:
ItIsWhatWhatever: Wow, thats some sad, creepy stuff. Look at that house, it looks like it would be in a scary movie like Texas Chainsaw Massacre or something..
Brilliant contribution. I guess it helps you if you can relate a news story to something you saw in the movies. Reality, what a concept...
July 24, 2008
4:55 p.m.
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buffsblg writes:
The story yesterday about his escape mentioned that he had forced his wife into her car and made his escape with her. No way to know what happened after that, but it seems a bit premature for us to be criticizing the U.S. Marshals etc. Such a terrible story. I wonder if the teenager was part of the family or someone that lived at the home?
July 24, 2008
5:06 p.m.
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Big_D writes:
rmnreader,
I don't worry, I already own my house. Also, I admitted my framing. I also notice the RMN doesn’t even have Obama anywhere on the front page even when he is top news everywhere else.
July 24, 2008
5:06 p.m.
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Squatch writes:
MAn this story just went from bad to worse. who would have known this would have been the outcome of him escaping on Sunday.
My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone involved even the workers in the prison that didnt seem to do their job well enough.
July 24, 2008
5:07 p.m.
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The_Punnisher writes:
The bottom line: A NASTY way to cleanse the gene pool.
We avoided this situation by having PRISONS ( you know, with REAL Guard Towers and orders to shoot to kill ) and a real live DEATH PENALTY instead of CLUB FEDS around the nation.
But then things changed. And a certain type of POLITICS has held the US hostage...
July 24, 2008
5:09 p.m.
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Big_D writes:
This seems like more quality in outsourcing of prisons to private corporations.
July 24, 2008
5:10 p.m.
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MattGuyver_007 writes:
Apparently the 'Spam King' should have been in a maximum security prison. Anyone capable of killing a 3 year old child would certainly show tendencies toward violence and should have been more carefully monitored. How did the courts, psychologists and other agencies miss this behavior? This is a tragedy through and through.
P.S. To blame the gun is corollary to a fat_ass blaming his silverware.
July 24, 2008
5:14 p.m.
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TankerDan writes:
She was probably going to file for divorce and leave him while he was in the joint and he probably sat in there stewing thinking "you and your big fake breast were with me during the good times when I was ripping people off and now that I'm broke and in the joint your going to fly in that fancy SUV I bought you....we'll see about that". Vanity, greed, narcissism...you reap what you sew, no one is innocent in this world and we better get ready soon to pay the fiddler.
July 24, 2008
5:23 p.m.
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ssqured writes:
Very sad and tragic story. WTF are we doing to our
kids in this country.
The previous RMN story stated that none of those
involved lived at the house pictured. Not sure,
but from what I've pieced together, the feds have
been trying to catch up with this rat for about a
month.
Another selfish loser taking the chicken s#it exit.
I guess we know why he was at Florence for white
collar crimes. Maybe the feds know something we
don't. Still, I don't understand how this wacknutz just
"walked" off. Even if he was a minimum security
inmate.
July 24, 2008
5:26 p.m.
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Armchair_Pundit writes:
Squatch writes:
"Artstarz he could just as easily knocked them all out and started a fire and killed them all."
That is a ridiculous statement.
Weird story. I'd think that maybe your wife should get a reprieve from domestic battery for at least a few days after she breaks you out of jail. Assuming of course that it is indeed the wife who was killed.
July 24, 2008
5:28 p.m.
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Scott writes:
Big_D blew it again by writing: "This seems like more quality in outsourcing of prisons to private corporations."
Hate to break the new to ya Big_D, but the factors that lead to this POS literally walking away from prison has absolutely NOTHING to do with outsourcing. Club Feds have NEVER had a fence around them regardless of who runs the prison. YOUR government mandates the security measures (or lack there of) for the various levels within the prison system.
Scott
July 24, 2008
5:41 p.m.
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ssqured writes:
Scott -
Definately no excuses for all of the carnage, but I
don't think it was simply the 21 months ... maybe it
was the added 5 years for ecsape and the nearly 3/4
million in restitution.
This POS's life was over. Sad he didn't just blow his
head off and leave the other victims out of it.
July 24, 2008
5:50 p.m.
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ssqured writes:
artstarrz -
Dude, pull off to the side of the road and sleep it off.
Squatch was simply making the case; If someone wants
to kill someone they likely will by whatever means.
Live long and prosper!
vote Obama in '08 ... that's capital 'O'bama buddy.
July 24, 2008
6:11 p.m.
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HolierThanThou writes:
Excuse me but...Edward "Eddie" Davidson was convicted of defrauding people by sending out billions of emails (spam mail to those of you who don't know what that is) that promoted bogus stock deals and probably lots of other crap like porn.
He put profits before people to make his fortune.
He deserved to be in a maximum security prison with the other psychos who think it's perfectly OK to rip people off by way of the internet using spam. But, NOOOOO! He's a nice looking "white collar" criminal. Wouldn't hurt a fly! Just trying to make a buck! So he got minimum security and his now dead wife sprung him without so much as a glance over her shoulder.
Profits before people...hmmm...
Doesn't he remind you of anyone?
Talk to you later...
July 24, 2008
6:27 p.m.
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ssqured writes:
artstarrz - Yes, he knows what you mean.
Do you always walk everyone around the block just
to get them across the street? (lol)
Hey, would you PLEASE cap the 'O' in Obama? I'd like
for my man to have all the respect he deserves.
Live long and prosper!
vote Obama in '08
July 24, 2008
7:02 p.m.
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awhite411 writes:
For all you dumb liberals who don't remember what Ms. Elders said when she was on Bill Clinton's staff. "We need to make safer Bullets"
I love all the young people today....they actually listen to all there ultra liberal dumb azs proffs in college. Too bad they don't teach a class to learn for themselves!
July 24, 2008
7:20 p.m.
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ssqured writes:
awhite411 -
Being young is not a qualifier for being a liberal.
However, generalizing is a the first qualifier for
being a dumb azs. Or, is that you lack the ability
to express your view without a personal put down?
July 24, 2008
7:30 p.m.
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FCZ writes:
the shooting deaths of three people is not the gun's fault.
Edward Davidson is the cause.
July 24, 2008
7:31 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
artstarzz, you are a complete idiot. I caught the "ex-next door neighbors, son, trying to break into my shed. I incapacitated him and his father jumped the wall to try to get me away from his 17 year old son. I then knocked him out. My girlfriend came out with a gun and I held them there while waiting for the police. The fathers oldest son came out with a gun and from over the wall, threatened me. I told him point blank that the 1st one who dies is his father (who turned out to be an illegal, by the way, as well as, the gun they had was stolen). They are all now doing time and will be up for final sentencing, shortly. If it wasn't for my gun, I could have been shot. So take your pacifist attitude and think about what you said. If it was you in my situation, let's see if you would still think that way. Oh, wait, you wouldn't be thinking at all, you'd be shot dead by the other party...
July 24, 2008
7:39 p.m.
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ssqured writes:
FCZ - Sell that to artstarzz.
Can't remember the last time I heard of a gun
killing someone without a pilot.
I could be wrong, but it seems to me the good
guys have guns only to protect themselves from
the bad guys who have guns.
July 24, 2008
7:41 p.m.
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happymike44 writes:
This is a sad ending to a promising life of those poor children.
This guy was really a nice piece of work.
If you really love your family you let them live.
Only a coward kills all those who love them.
If the prison had been doing what they should this family would be safe.
Wonder where the real crime is.
July 24, 2008
7:44 p.m.
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MattGuyver_007 writes:
To blame the gun is corollary to a fat_ass blaming his silverware.
July 24, 2008
7:49 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
ssqured, I agree 100%. Which is why I was irritated by artstarzz, unrealistic look at the world and the society around us. I live in Las Vegas, and crime is bad here. Domestic violence is bad. But artstarzz thinks his pacifism is the way to make everything ok. Nobody enjoys violence but it's there, and if he wants to be able to NOT protect himself, let him. Obama wants to take away our right to bear arms. If I can't protect my home then I might as well give it to the crack heads, rapists, murderers and thieves, now. Not in my lifetime, which will be longer then those who can't, no, WON'T protect themselves and their families.
July 24, 2008
8:09 p.m.
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ssqured writes:
Dynamicdave - It's tough sometimes, but you have to take
artstarrz with a grain of salt. He puts that crap up just to
hook someone. Just think of him as the self-appointed
Pee Wee Herman of this post.
You're dead on with the gun issue though. We might not be
sharing comments had you not owned a gun when you had
one stuffed in your face.
July 24, 2008
8:17 p.m.
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WestminsterJ writes:
awhite411: For all you dumb liberals who don't remember what Ms. Elders said when she was on Bill Clinton's staff. "We need to make safer Bullets"
Well, if you heard it on Rush Limbaugh it *must* be true.
And that's oh so relevant because we liberals all take as gospel anything that Joycelyn Elders said; I mean, she speaks for all liberals everywhere.
July 24, 2008
8:19 p.m.
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ssqured writes:
happymike44 - Right on.
I don't think we've heard the end of this as far
as the prison escape issue is concerned. The
RMN story (original) stated this rat "walked" off.
Makes one wonder who's the rat next to "walk"
off? There are some very bad boys in Florence.
For openers, maybe they could close the gate.
July 24, 2008
8:28 p.m.
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chuckyg writes:
Dynamicdave: Your letting a teenager get you upset. It reagularly posts on here and is a so called "screen warrior" or wants to be. I feel you man, and I agree with you, but don't let the pathetic artstarzz get to you. It is so far left that it is about to fall of the tree into terrorist.
July 24, 2008
8:32 p.m.
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Mark Brown writes:
Sad that such a tragedy happened to the people that this criminal supposedly loved, yet it somehow gets turned into a political issue here.
Happy Mike had it right several posts above:
"This is a sad ending to a promising life of those poor children.
This guy was really a nice piece of work.
If you really love your family you let them live.
Only a coward kills all those who love them."
Amen.
July 24, 2008
8:41 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
chuckyg, agreed, but if this type of thinking is what we have to look forward to, God help us all. I teach martial arts at my own studio to kids and I volunteer my time, 3 nights a week to the YMCA to teach underprivileged kids and kids involved in drugs and gangs. Ironic that the kid who tried to bust into my shed (my Harley is in there) is the same type of kid, I volunteer my time to. Will I stop? Of course not. But at least the kids are learning to curb there anger and redirect it, through the arts. artstarzz is blind to the real world around him. He doesn't see the big picture. He is not what I look forward to, as far as the next generation. He's unrealistic and living in a "candy-coated" world.
July 24, 2008
8:50 p.m.
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happymike44 writes:
You are right this poor family was slaughtered like animals.
The prison has as much of a part in these murders as this nice family oriented father.
I wonder who had their eyes closed that day.
I wonder when eddie decided to do this did his wife realize how much danger they all were in.
I wonder how do you tell the surviving family members this is a big mistake.
I only know that this father was not much of a man to murder the only people who loved him.
How do you know what evil looks like,when it comes to someone like this.
To have it all and flush it down the toilet,along with destruction of ones family.
God have mercy on these poor little angels of god and may they rest in peace.
Evil comes in many forms how would you know it would be your own father.
July 24, 2008
9:05 p.m.
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redwhiteandBLUE writes:
He would rather commit suicide and take out his family with him..than do 21 months ? What a wuss!! Yea..he is a coward! U.S atty is right!
July 24, 2008
9:11 p.m.
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ssqured writes:
redwhiteandBLUE ... 21 mo. plus 5 yrs. for escape. What a piece of
crap huh?
July 24, 2008
9:13 p.m.
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byetheeway writes:
First and foremost am I the only person that found it weird that it took place in front of a home that his wife used to own and sold to the new tenants for half a miilion and they just happen to not be there. He may have been plotting against them as well. I also found this intersting....
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From 2005 through part of 2006, he sent thousands of e-mails from his home in Bennett, sometimes with false information, on behalf of a Houston company promoting a penny stock as an excellent investment, according to a plea agreement. His bank account deposits from 2003 to 2006 totaled $3.5 million, the plea agreement said.
Prosecutors said they also found about $380,000 that he had stashed in his girlfriend's bank account over three years, and purchases totaling $418,000 from a company that sells gold, platinum, palladium and silver coins.
Prosecutors did not identify the girlfriend in court documents
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25840140
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Ok who was the girlfriend and who are the three children. This just
seemed bizzarre. Im sure he was practically in a country club jail
with some loot to boot for when he got out and enough to keep him from worrying about dropping the soap (or shall I say the bath bar)
in the "mini house" so why sneak out and load up the kids and shoot the family. There is somethign BIG missing here... I see something moving in the grassy knoll...
And as far as guns go, I believe in do unto others as they shall do unto you. If you think you are going to pull up on me and im not ready, you better think again.
July 24, 2008
9:29 p.m.
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redwhiteandBLUE writes:
DynamicDave,
Colorado has the "Make My Day Law"...I hope that never changes.
July 24, 2008
9:49 p.m.
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ssqured writes:
bytheeway - All good observations. I've also picked up on some
of these oddities. Here's my theory ... for what that's worth.
I think she went to visit him to tell him she was not going to
hang out while he was staying at the Gray Bar Inn. Also, maybe
he had some loot stashed, which she had control of, and he did
not want to lose contact with. This scenario pi$$ed him off and
he made the snap decision to check out of the Gray Bar.
As for them ending up at the wifes previous house. A couple of
possibilities. One; Maybe she/he stashed some loot there, she
just sold it in October, and he went to retrieve, it was gone
and he went off. I think this is the most plausable theory only
because a selfish rat as he likely had his eye on the border
and needed cash to reach the sunset. Second; Maybe all was
lost (21 mos., escape time, 3/4 million in restitution, losing her)
and he took her and the kids there (somewhat remote area) to
end it all.
I'm not the brightest color in the Crayon box, but that's all I
can figure. I'm sure it's a bit more complex though.
July 24, 2008
9:59 p.m.
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Squatch writes:
I should know better than to call Artstarrz out since he lives in his tiny box of stupidity. This is the same guy that takes offense and starts spouting off "KILL WHITEY". He preaches not to be racist then does the same thing. Once again the gun didnt kill these people that POS did that same loaded gun could have sat on a table for years loaded and not harmed a soul but put into the hands of a chicken$h** POS and this can happen just like if he had used a knife or a baseball bat.
Artstarrz doesnt want to keep illegals out of the country but wants to take guns & bullets away from Americans.
July 24, 2008
10:05 p.m.
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HolierThanThou writes:
I liked Chris Rock's idea of selling bullets for $5000 a cartridge. His point was that it would slow down the rate of goof balls with guns killing folks. You'd have to be real serious about wanting someone dead to pay that much for a bullet.
Of course, I'm biased towards the idea because I'd cast my own bullets and load the cartridges. It'd be a real money maker in hard times.
But this case of the spammer butchering his family tells on the character of many wealthy people in America. I'm not talking about anyone who builds a real business from the ground up and offers their employees and customers a square deal.
I'm talking about the kind that don't give a hoot in Hell how they make their money. Spammers are a modern variant on that scum. But they all have a specific common trait. Profits come before people. They don't care who or how many they hurt as long as they're getting theirs. Every executive or director who gets a hefty bonus while eliminating jobs and driving others into poverty is one of these.
Most of them haven't fallen into the pond like that particular Narcissus who murdered his family. Evidently, he believed his ego would survive the death of his body. His co-religionists on the economic tower are smart enough to know better. But they embrace the same me-first-foremost and screw-everyone-else philosophy.
They just don't take it to their own families the way this guy did. Instead, they train their kids to be competent economic predators, too.
And there are plenty of lollipops who will vote for those predators and support their power-grabbing agendas. Little do they know that they look like just another slab of meat to those guys.
July 24, 2008
10:11 p.m.
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ssqured writes:
mymilehi - Sheeeesh! Come on now. Just because we're white doesn't mean were all the same.
Got your point though. Same theory works on the flip side as well.
Live long and prosper!
July 24, 2008
10:14 p.m.
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redwhiteandBLUE writes:
ssqured,
You're right!
July 24, 2008
10:25 p.m.
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ssqured writes:
HolierThanThou -
Great concept. Won't work. The bad guys knife the bullet salesman,
take his bullets and keep on rollin'. Doesn't anyone use a croquet
mallet anymore? So much more sporting.
Sorry, this crap isn't funny. As I stated previously, it's an imperative
the good guys have guns, and bullets, if only to protect themselves
from the bad guys with guns and bullets.
July 24, 2008
10:29 p.m.
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byetheeway writes:
ssquered,
thanks for checking that out...there is definately more than meets the eye here, and the crayon color you are is just fine with me and im alot darker...lol
July 24, 2008
10:31 p.m.
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byetheeway writes:
please forgive the added "e" just consider yourself excellent in my typo..lol
July 24, 2008
10:33 p.m.
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BigRich writes:
Eddie Davidson was a real class act. I don't feel too sorry for the wife...after she apparently helped him escape. It also appears that she was helping him to hide his ill gotten gains (as that house was apparently only in HER name). Any SPAM KING who is worth a crap pulls in big bucks, so why was she the sole owner of the house? She's lucky she didn't go to prison with the "King."
I feel sorry for the poor kids who survived. They have an entire lifetime to get over the BS that their parents have put them through.
July 24, 2008
10:37 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
It's not a matter of a persons color, but rather, their way of thinking. A person can play the fool and spout off stupid remarks, as we see in this blog (mymilehi), but you wonder what type of upbringing they had? I firmly believe in family values. I also believe you are what you eat. Bad parenting. Davidson is probably no different. Does that give him a "poor me" free pass? No way. Death row is what is waiting him. Denis Leary said it best to all the whiners and sick people out there, "Life s*cks, get a helmet.
July 24, 2008
10:46 p.m.
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ssqured writes:
byetheeway - Hell, what do I know? Just makes me quite curious
and that's about all I could come up with. The escape thing is
going to be very interesting as it unfolds. Just "walked" off
and everyone dies? I wouldn't want to be working at Super Max
tonight. Don't think I'd want to work there at any time.
So, what do you think of my theory? Likely it will play out in
a completely different way, but it's a good brain tease until we
have the facts.
July 24, 2008
10:57 p.m.
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ssqured writes:
mymilehi - That's better. Manners, manners, manners! Good to see
you back. You were saying? Come on, you can tell me ... I'm color blind.
Live long and prosper!
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July 24, 2008
11:08 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
mymilehi, so where do you see yourself? With your lame, racist remarks, I know exactly where I place you and it's not a nice place. I know exactly who I am. I'm retired from the military (10th Special Forces Group, Airborne, out of Ft. Carson), a proud father of a son who is a test pilot at Edwards Air Force Base and a succesful business owner of a martial arts studio. I learned a long time ago to give respect where respect is due. Sorry, but you just don't earn it. redwhiteandBle, talks sense. As does ssqured and Squatch. They talk about a subject in a sensible manner. What have you said in this forum? Oh yeah, I forgot, someone had your ridiculous statement removed. Stop being a smart mouth and have something constructive to say. Then I'm willing to listen. From this point on, I won't waste my time with your "off-color" comments. Time to grow up.
July 24, 2008
11:28 p.m.
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ssqured writes:
BigRich - Yes, this rat was a real piece of s#!t but he should
never have had the chance to be the judge, jury and executioner.
Your assumptions and the facts aren't played out yet. If she was
involved, likely she was, she deserved the same as he ... a trial
and the opportunity to prove her innocence. She didn't deserve a
death sentence and that's not what she would have gotten if she
had gone to trial and been convicted.
She was murdered because the keeper didn't keep the cage door
shut. Likely, she did help him escape, but that's not a fact yet.
Unfortunately, we may never know that she did or didn't.
July 24, 2008
11:41 p.m.
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ssqured writes:
mymilehi - Cool. Well I don't know how to break this you, but
stop living in the past. That starlight you're admiring so very
fondly? It's been dead for a few million years and the source
ain't there any longer my friend.
Yeah, this is truly a sad day. A child especially.
Yes, we are very small in so many ways. We should never
lose sight of that.
Live long and prosper.
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July 25, 2008
8:23 a.m.
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ssqured writes:
artstarzz - Obviously you lack the cognative skills necessary to
comprehend that which Dynamicdave wrote. Yes, we're aware of the
fact StarTrek is fiction? Are you aware of the fact some believe you are
as well?
Do you screw with everyone simply because you're a mini-mind who
hasn't the ability to articulate a substantive thought? Or, did you
sustain a major head trauma from which you're not fully recovered?
Perhaps you should just go play with your toys and leave the intellectual
jousting to the grown ups.
The Leggos are in the top left drawer and your Happy Meal will arrive
around noon.
July 25, 2008
8:37 a.m.
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BigRich writes:
ssqured - I agree that all the facts may not be in. I am commenting on the information reported in the article. (Just because it's in print doesn't make it fact.) However, it would seem that the 2 facts upon which my comments were based(the house in her name & she helped him escape) are pretty solid.
Based on what I've heard so far, I don't think that the people in the system would have had any reason to think that this guy had violent tendencies. White collar criminals go to these types of facilities all the time. Few walk away; fewer still commit a violent crime after they escape. Under the circumstances, I doubt that the jailers deserve any blame. (Unless you want to get into the system as a whole. I would agree that punishment is usually way too lenient for white collar criminals.)
The point I was making is that the wife apparently enabled the SPAM KING to be the piece of crap that he was. I suspect she enjoyed the lifestyle when the KING was racking in big bucks and they could afford to live in a $500,000 house. She had to know what he was doing (my wife certainly knows what line of work I’m in and I know hers). She turned a blind eye. She supported and enabled a man who turned out to be, not just a piece of crap, but a monster. I didn’t say that the wife “deserved” to be killed. I simply said that I didn’t feel too sorry for her, under the circumstances.
I also feel sorry for the new owners of the house. It sure s#*ks to be them too.
July 25, 2008
8:59 a.m.
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ssqured writes:
BigRich - Got ya'. This is a real tragedy all the way around. The
thing that bothers me most is the fact this guy apparently just
walked out of a state of the art federal prison. Inmates don't just
"walk" out of a federal prison. The entire chain of events started
with his walking out of a state of the art federal prison.If this
had been prevented, and it should have been, then it's likely
all of these people would still be among the living.
It does tear my heart out to think of that little one. Honestly,
I don't know that it was a good thing the infant son was spared.
I can't imagine living life knowing my father killed my mother, my
sister and himself.
July 25, 2008
9:06 a.m.
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Dude writes:
Poor kids, my heart goes out to them when I hear about these murder-suicides. I lost my parents the same way many years ago. It is hard on a child(i was 11) to grow up after these things happen. Please keep these kids in your thoughts and prayers.
July 25, 2008
9:07 a.m.
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RUKidding writes:
How lazy the RMN is. All of the headlines from yesterday are used again today, just changed......Where do I apply?
July 25, 2008
9:16 a.m.
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ssqured writes:
BigRich - The "she helped him" escape aspect is still a bit
sketchy. I haven't heard any details supporting the fact that
she did. I think there are a couple of scenarios in which she
may have been under duress.
She may have visited him with the intent of helping him escape,
or he may have, without her knowledge, intended to take advantage
of the visit to make an escape. Still, it is likely she did participate.
Just don't know that for fact.
July 25, 2008
9:24 a.m.
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ssqured writes:
RUKidding - The RMN is not lazy. They're just inept hosts who
don't replenish the stale pastries because they're a gaggle of
fiscal conservatives (cheap).
Do you really want to work for those RMN jouralistic geeks? Didn't
think so.
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July 25, 2008
9:44 a.m.
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melvinlajace writes:
wow. good thing he wasnt an illegal immigrant, or white people would be all over this story. What a sick guy. you kill kids cuz you cant handle 21 months in a federal camp. I got friends who would do that time standing on their head. what a scumbag.
July 25, 2008
10:01 a.m.
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Rutlnlies writes:
Wow, I am not usually one to comment, but I just can't help but notice the blatant stupidity and feel someone needs to speak up.
Artstarzz - Possibly one of the most ignorant posters on RMN. Don't sell bullets??? Really? it's that easy? While we are at it, why don't we stop selling sharp knives, only butter knives allowed.
and then you got the new mymilehi, what was all that crap about aliens? not to mention all his other nonsensical racist babbleing.
And Dave, I mostly appreciate what you say but, I've only been paying attention here for a few days, and seriously, how many times are you going to talk about your "martial arts studio"? We get the point - you are tough and you're not goint to take no crap from nobody. Just sometimes better if you prove it with intellectualy potent posts rather than talking about karate.
Anyways, Eddie is a coward. definately some messed up sh*t. seems like some people dropped the ball on this one.
July 25, 2008
10:22 a.m.
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ssqured writes:
melvinlajace - "White people" ARE all over this story. Since when
does the perp have to be an illegal immigrant to stir the moral
sensitivities of "white people"? Or any other ethnicity for that matter.
This piece of crap was and evil monster. It doesn't matter if he
was white, green, black or dropped in from the planet Zork. All
peoples should be disgusted and outraged at his actions.
The only good to come out of this is that we, the taxpayers, won't
have to spend tens of thousands of dollars housing and feeding
a piece of worm crap for 21 mos. plus escape time. And, perhaps
the feds will find and close the hole this rat climbed out of at Super.
Live long and prosper!
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July 25, 2008
10:30 a.m.
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Squatch writes:
Stupidity has killed more people than Guns with bullets combined.
What this guy did was sick and twisted but the gun was a tool he used he could have chosen a different method.
Lets not forget this guy was a felon so how did he end up with a gun? Was it his wife's? Did they hide them from the police when he was arrested? She helped him escape so she wasnt a law abiding gun owner.
July 25, 2008
10:45 a.m.
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ShadyGrady writes:
This just in: The spam king had been reading Artstarz postings in prison just prior to escaping. Apparently that was enough to push him over the edge.
July 25, 2008
10:45 a.m.
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steel writes:
Squatch writes:"Stupidity has killed more people than Guns with bullets combined."
As apposed to guns or bullets individually?
July 25, 2008
10:47 a.m.
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ssqured writes:
artstarzz -
Ah yes. Just as I suspected. All babble and no substance. Do
you ever pause to think before you write? It's not that I disagree
with what you write. Rather, your meanderings are so disjointed
no one can decipher your message.
Now run along or you'll miss show 'n tell and Big Bird.
Rutlnlies - "Possibly one of the most ignorant posters ..."? He
seems to have that distinction locked-up everytime he posts.
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July 25, 2008
10:48 a.m.
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Armchair_Pundit writes:
Heroin doesn't kill people either, people choose to use heroin dangerously so they kill themselves. Let's legalize that too. It's not the heroin's fault. There are plenty of responsible heroin users who only snort or smoke the drug. Why punish them because of a few bad apples?
Okay, not saying that, in this day and age, we can "outlaw" guns. Just look at D.C. (before the handgun ban was lifted; damn activist judges!) to see how banning something simply takes away guns from the people that actually need them.
Still, to the people that think that more guns in the hands of citizens is the answer to crime and violence, I say: look at Mogadishu.
Fact, it's just plain easier to kill people with guns than with a knife, poison, arson, your own two hands, etc. It's simply not true that one who does not own a gun will find a way to kill you anyways. I'm pretty sure I'm better at dodging knife thrusts than I am at dodging bullets.
July 25, 2008
10:56 a.m.
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Squatch writes:
Artstars seems to think they dont do it together. Bullets and guns that is.
July 25, 2008
11 a.m.
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Heidi writes:
I think farty is getting very humerous. I'm always wondering which personality is going to come out.
July 25, 2008
11:02 a.m.
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Heidi writes:
oops...before someone criticizes me...."humorous!"
July 25, 2008
11:02 a.m.
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ssqured writes:
steel - Don't distract me. I'm crouching behind a concrete barrier
so as not to be shot by a high velocity 'stupidity'. Yes. it's the
newest thing ... haven't you heard. Well it's a very bad thing to be
caught with a handgun during the commission of a crime. So
those clever criminals have taken to shooting their bullets with a
slingshot. No gun, no problem.
artstarzz - Okay with you if we trash the guns and keep the bullets?
It's more difficult to get off a gun with a slingshot than it is a bullet.
Guns don't kill people ... slingshots do.
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July 25, 2008
11:04 a.m.
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Heidi writes:
Didn't they make those "wrist rockets" illegal?
July 25, 2008
11:06 a.m.
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elkman writes:
artstarzz
Presenting a lame case as usual. People kill people. Simple. It is taught in common sense 101. Usually is grade school.
July 25, 2008
11:15 a.m.
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ssqured writes:
Squatch - MattGuyver_007 has it right. Blaming the gun, and
the bullets, is akin to a fat a$$ blaming the silverware.
It never ceases to amaze me how denial skews all logic and
common sense.
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July 25, 2008
11:19 a.m.
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Heidi writes:
elkman,
I believe that people are either born with common sense or not. If someone does not have common sense, they are doomed.
July 25, 2008
11:23 a.m.
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elkman writes:
Heidi
Well, so much for artstarzz.
July 25, 2008
11:25 a.m.
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ssqured writes:
Heidi - Yes. I believe 'they' did. You're very perceptive. However, do you
really believe the word 'illegal' has any meaning with the bad guys? To
hell with social responsibility ... we're looking for plausible deniability
here!
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July 25, 2008
11:33 a.m.
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Heidi writes:
ssqured,
I was just curious. It doesn't matter if a weapon is legal or not. If someone wants to commit a crime, anything goes!
July 25, 2008
11:36 a.m.
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ssqured writes:
Heidi - Good observations on common sense. However, the more
artstarrz babbles the more apparent it becomes he 'landed' here
and may not have been 'born'. This event may have precluded his
having the common sense genetic code (DNA) which the majority
of us seem to have. Perhaps this would explain why artstarrz
ended up so far of course. Rationally speaking that is.
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July 25, 2008
11:48 a.m.
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ssqured writes:
Heidi - Pretty much. If these rocks were concerned with the law,
legally speaking of course, then they wouldn't be breaking it would they?
Sorry, I'm just attempting to figure a way to appease artstarrz by
doing away with all of the instruments which kill people. He has
given me an entirely new perspective on the problem. It's the
guns and the bullets ... not the people who use them. I guess
my problem lies in trying to understand why all of those gun
users are behind bars and the guns aren't.
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July 25, 2008
11:57 a.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
Rutlnlies, yes I talk about martial arts, not to be "tough" as you so eloquently put it, but rather to impress upon others that it was a motivating factor in my life. It kept me off the streets when I was a teenager in High School and heading into a bad direction. It led me to the military and a successful career. It also protects me from idiots like Davidson. It also prevented me from turning into a complete moron like young artstarzz. When I speak of my volunteer work, teaching the arts to underprivileged kids, it's because I also want to make it clear, I do what I do so kids don't turn out like Davidson. My arts and mentioning of the arts have a direct link and bearing on this type of tragedy. Martial arts is much more then being about, being "tough". It's a philosophy. Just thought you might want to know that.
July 25, 2008
12:02 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
artstarzz, you are so funny. Did I say I knocked out a kid? No. I said I incompacitated him. I prevented him from leaving. He was tresspassing, breaking and entering. I knocked out his father who was part of the whole thing (he knew what his son was doing), who jumped my wall and attacked me. Read before you speak. Better yet, think. Or are you the type of child I will someday see in my volunteer classes? Food for thought.
July 25, 2008
12:20 p.m.
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ssqured writes:
Dynamicdave - Point well stated. By its' very nature the discipline of the martial
arts is founded in the defensive as opposed to the offensive.
I'm curious about the 'art' part of artstarzz. is this individual an artist? Perhaps,
this would explain his inclination for the abstract. We don't necessarily need to
have 'pointy' ears to possess the gift of common sense (logic). Artists? Rockwell,
Picasso and Rembrandt seemed to have possessed common sense. Then, of
course, there's Van Gogh, Dali and artstrazz. Perhaps, this is his problem ... er' his
'challenge'.
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July 25, 2008
12:25 p.m.
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Heidi writes:
Ok, where did arty go? Perhaps McDonald's was knocking at his door and he can't tear himself away from his happy meal toy.
July 25, 2008
12:32 p.m.
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ssqured writes:
Heidi - Perhaps. On the other hand, those Leggos can keep 'em
going for hours and hours and hours and ................
Sheeesh ... hope the little fella' doesn't miss his afternoon nap.
He'll be a cranky little rascal on the blog tonight.
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July 25, 2008
12:49 p.m.
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elkman writes:
I dont's think arty can respond to reason.
July 25, 2008
12:59 p.m.
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ssqured writes:
Come on back arty. We're just ripping on you because we can and
you're the best available target. Entertainment is your true calling.
Who else can endlessly rant without saying a damned thing. That's
a rare talent arty. Ever consider politics? Yeah, that's it ... politics.
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July 25, 2008
1:13 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
Agreed, ssqured. Artstarzz is a real piece of work. His logic as to why I have a gun when I should have just "Bruce Leroyed" him? Er, because I have 2 hands and I can't hold on to both of them while dodging potential bullets from the 3rd? Because my girlfriend was there and I have no idea who else is coming out of the house next door. Artstarzz, when you are done mowing your parents lawn or whatever it is you're doing, please come back on line. These intellectual conversations of yours are so motivating and fabulous. Oh, hello again, Heidi. Glad to see you're back. I have till 2pm before my next class starts so I have some free time.
July 25, 2008
2:04 p.m.
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Squatch writes:
Hooray we have got rid of artstarrz. Okay maybe just for a while.
I will be honest though I wish i could have put a bullet into this scumbag POS before he had a chance to kill his family and ruin the live of everyone around him. Im not advocating gun violence just preserving the life of the innocent.
July 25, 2008
2:08 p.m.
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ssqured writes:
bytheeway - Seems as if my second theory was correct. I always
felt the wife was under duress during the escape. Had I known, at
the time, all of the kids were with her during the visit, then I would
have been nearly positive she wasn't any part of an escape plan.
Very hard to imagine mom would take the kids along during an
escape attempt.
The latest RMN story states he "walked with her to the car ..." .
Don't the feds realize inmates dream of being on the outside and,
if you make it easy for them, they'll be in the wind? Given the fact
three innocents were murdered, I'm very curious to hear how
they explain this one away.
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July 25, 2008
2:16 p.m.
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ssqured writes:
squatch - Gun violence is perfectly 'advocated' if you're in the
process of protecting your life and/or that of an innocent who
is being threatened at gun point. Shoot now, count the bodies
later. At least you won't be one of the body count.
I hate handguns and I hate going to the dentist. Somethings
you just have to do.
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July 25, 2008
2:22 p.m.
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Heidi writes:
DDave,
Sorry I missed you!
July 25, 2008
2:33 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
I'm still here, Heidi. I'm going through the RMN Bronco forum and such, so I come back to this, periodically. Also, looking at my emails and what not. Hey, mymilehi, glad you're back. Hope I didn't come off too harsh? I just call it as I see it. Doesn't mean much on a blog/forum, anyways. So, where is artstarzz? I think we sent the poor kid into therapy? Not much time left for me to chat. About 1/2 hour. Wish all you Denverites the best. Especially you, Heidi, ha, ha. Hope you all have a great weekend. I'm in Vegas, baby, so I can't help but to have fun. The city that never sleeps. What a great place this is. As a way to end this, I'm praying that God takes this deceased child in his arms and gives her the peace that she deserves, because she didn't get the chance to have a say in it. Davidson, his fate in the afterlife was sealed, long ago.
July 25, 2008
2:38 p.m.
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Heidi writes:
Dave,
So if you love Vegas so much, why do you keep coming back here to this forum? Do things that happen around here make you appreciate Vegas more? Are there not any artstarzz characters in Vegas?
July 25, 2008
2:49 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
I live here because I enjoy the night life that Denver doesn't offer. I lived in Colorado Springs for 25 years. I was also stationed at Ft. Carson (10th Special Forces Group, Airborne). I have my parents, out here. My father had a stroke and my mother is 80 so I spend a lot of my time, helping them. None of my other family members will offer to move and help, so I do. It's a great life out here, even with the crime. I own my own home, bought and paid for. I do well here. I'm happy (as long as my next door neighbor stops renting his house to illegal aliens). What about you? What makes Heidi, tick?
July 25, 2008
2:53 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
Oh, just in case I wasn't clear. I am a Bronco fan and I read up on them, constantly. I go to my Denver Bronco bar each year to watch the games. I was reading up on my Broncos and happened to see this sad story of the killings and read some of the comments. And there you have it.
July 25, 2008
2:57 p.m.
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Heidi writes:
Dave,
I'm not much of a night life person anymore. I am more of a daytime, outdoors person. That's why I love it here. Camping, hiking, and biking in the mountains. And skiing is the bomb!!
Good for you for helping your parents out.
July 25, 2008
2:59 p.m.
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Heidi writes:
I got it that you are a Broncos fan. You may change your opinion of me if I told you I was a Chiefs fan.
July 25, 2008
3:04 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
Last message for awhile, class is starting. No, I still like you. Just don't say Raiders fan and we're good.
July 25, 2008
3:08 p.m.
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ssqured writes:
Raiders. Ddave - What's up with the economy in Tinseltown?
Can't y'all scape enough together to purchase an oxygen bottle,
an aluminum walker and a box of dried prunes for Harry Reid?
He's been a bit cranky lately.
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July 25, 2008
3:10 p.m.
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elkman writes:
What has this turned into? A dating site? Maybe you guys should get a room?
July 25, 2008
3:12 p.m.
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ssqured writes:
Sorry DynamicDave. Had to do it. Actually I'd rather stuff knitting
needles through my knees than even think about the Raiders.
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July 25, 2008
3:15 p.m.
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Heidi writes:
elkman,
Not a dating site. It helps to know a little bit about each other so you know just how rude you can or want to be.
July 25, 2008
3:23 p.m.
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elkman writes:
Who cares about how much or how little you know about someone on this site? Its about opinions. Mine, yours, and many others. Some I agree with, some I don't. Makes little difference how I feel about someone on this site.
July 25, 2008
3:29 p.m.
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Heidi writes:
elkman,
You're right, it really doesn't matter. But we are all still human beings. I am not here to be rude to anyone, although it does happen from time to time.
Have a great weekend, everyone!
July 25, 2008
3:35 p.m.
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ssqured writes:
elkman - If not that, a mutual admiration society at the least.
Does anyone here wedding bells?
Hey, mymilehigh ... were you been? Don't rattle artstarrz ...
he's taking his afternoon nap before he goes out to play again.
Actually, there's the USS Enterprise (aircraft carrier), the
Enterprise (our first test bed space shuttle) and, of course,
the Trekkie Limo. Could b