Search ends for African lion roaming east of Colorado Springs

The Gazette

Published July 14, 2008 at 9:42 a.m.

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Photo by El Paso County Sheriff's Department

An animal, possibly a lion or a big dog, roams Monday in El Paso County.

Photo by Jerilee Bennett / The Gazette

A helicopter, sheriff's deputies and members of the Colorado Division of Wildlife were searching for the animal.

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July 14, 2008

10:21 a.m.

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Ted_in_Vegas writes:

Watch for roaring lion, roaming to and fro, seeking whom he may devour.
July 14, 2008

10:25 a.m.

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BrewinAZ writes:

http://www.roflcat.com/jesus-christ-i...
July 14, 2008

10:33 a.m.

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mtnsrfer writes:

Sevene says deputies asked the sanctuary to double-check.

Now that's just good advice right there.
July 14, 2008

10:40 a.m.

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snap1066 writes:

A chow dog with a bad haircut?
July 14, 2008

10:41 a.m.

Steph writes:

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July 14, 2008

10:41 a.m.

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jacka writes:

Obama was in town last week
July 14, 2008

10:49 a.m.

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freedomfighter1 writes:

That sounds dangerous!
July 14, 2008

10:59 a.m.

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NotUrFriend writes:

Steph,

Your just being racial against us Christians. Christophobe! Luckily, most us Christians (like myself) are heavily armed. Come by sometime.

I.
July 14, 2008

11:03 a.m.

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mark79trans writes:

Steph writes:

Feed the Colorado Springs Christians to the lion!!! It would be a great start and maybe it will catch on nation-wide!
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Give it a try; it would make a nice rug!
July 14, 2008

11:05 a.m.

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NotUrFriend writes:

Mark,

haha, I hear you brother. :) I would rather Shot Steph than the poor beast. It's retards like him that worry me more. Funny, I notice he hasn't the ba**'s to say this about...er? Certain 'other' Abrahamic beliefs.....

Anywho.

I.
July 14, 2008

11:07 a.m.

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HolierThanThou writes:

Pets are being left to fend for themselves after foreclosures.
July 14, 2008

11:14 a.m.

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JluvDC writes:

I suppose it would be dangerous, but that would be a very neat thing to come across if you were driving in the area.
July 14, 2008

11:18 a.m.

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Steph writes:

NotUFriend, what other Abrahamic beliefs did I leave out? \

BTW, please tell me why it's so important for Christians to have guns. You certainly sound like someone who is not afraid to use it. How do you reconcile this with being pro-life.

Let's see if you have the b**ls to answer my question.
July 14, 2008

11:20 a.m.

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7_ogNiOj writes:

Stop by Focus on the Family please.
July 14, 2008

11:30 a.m.

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Steph writes:

NotUrFriend. Yeah, I didn't think you had the ba**s or mental capacity to answer my questions. You are a Fake Christian; supporting Christian beliefs but not living them. Tell me, do you think Jesus would be armed?
July 14, 2008

11:41 a.m.

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MGD writes:

I agree with mtnsrfer, I can see why someone in the Shrrif's department makes the big bucks.

Why the hateful posts people? What do you get out of doing that?
July 14, 2008

11:43 a.m.

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NotUrFriend writes:

Steph,

In closing, prior to Christ's removal after the betrayal he told his followers to do what they must, sell what they must, to gather arms. These we're defensive, as in, you attack me I'll attack back. Its the golden rule of the west (Christian value here bud), do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

So, if you wanted to throw me to the lions, oh yeah, for some reason...call me crazy, sounds like you were....*gasp* attacking me??? Oh no! Heaven save me...With my own gun please. I reconcile my pro life as in..Hey, your dead, Im alive. Yah!

Second, what are the only other two? Give ya a hint...One of them places explosives to they're chest and boom! Off to the virgins! and as for the other? Well, lets just say they returned home finally, after several thousands of years of wondering...Very biblical here huh? Odd.

Anywho. Have a good one Steph, you retard.

I.

P.S. I live the Christian life btw. :) You dont, thus your cruel and disgusting comment. Glad to see you dislike it in return. At least we share that in common my friend.
July 14, 2008

11:48 a.m.

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NotUrFriend writes:

BTW, Steph,

You arent in the mind set that...Just because I'm Christian means I must be humble and cowardly do you? No wonder you talk so bold, if so. Seeing as 70-86 % (depending on location) of people livin in the US today are Christian....thats 7/8 of every 10 people you meet.

Talk tough my friend, unless you throw a punch first I promise I wont be looking for a fight. But punch first and I'll throw the last punch, trust me here bud.

I.
July 14, 2008

11:59 a.m.

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Steph writes:

How can you say you live a Christian lifestyle when you're calling people names and enjoying the thought of killing someone so you can live? You are a false christian which must be the most hypocritical and worst sin of them all-wrapping your very unchristian behavior in your religion. Yeah, Jebus would really get a kick out of you calling people "retards."

ANYONE including the Muslims or other Abrahamic faiths are just as ignorant and dangerous as Christians. History as proven that.
July 14, 2008

12:05 p.m.

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KP13 writes:

I hope this lion mates with a Mountain lion and has mutant Lions that eat all of Colorado Springs!

Maybe the lion can steal a bible, and start the Christian Lion Bible Study group.

Maybe the lion can Start the Atheist Lions against all religion jambory Festival, that can be held in this same field each year.

Seriously is there a real legit lion on the loose? Crazy Lions
July 14, 2008

12:07 p.m.

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Steph writes:

ezekiel777, yeah right. you honestly believe NotUrFriend wants to forgive me for not being a Christian?

Prove to me that God loves me.

BTW, if you're wondering why it could possbily come to killing christians in the future, why don't you take a look at the mess your elected Born Again Pres has made of this country and parts of the world following his daily talks with his "father." Over the past 7.5 years, Christians have proven that they stand more for hate and death than love and forgiveness.
July 14, 2008

12:08 p.m.

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Ted_in_Vegas writes:

Steph; Jesus did tell his Apostles to sell their extra clothes and buy swords. He also said (at Matthew 10:34) "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." The peace He brought was between individual people who choose to call him Lord and Saviour and God Almighty, not between people. In fact, He said that if you choose to proclaim Jesus Christ as Lord (as I do), the world will hate you and seek to destroy you.

Whoever taught you that Christians are supposed to be pacifists was liar, an idiot or nuts.
July 14, 2008

12:13 p.m.

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El_Mariachi writes:

They can find the lion by...Following the Yellow Brick Road!!!
July 14, 2008

12:14 p.m.

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Ted_in_Vegas writes:

Steph: prove that God loves you?

He made Himself into a man, lived a perfect life - committing no sins, and yet died on the cross - taking upon Himself the penalty for all of the sins that everyone else committed so that no one HAS to pay the ultimate price for their sins.

He died for you to pay the price for your spiritual liberty, a price that you or I cannot pay ourselves.

John 15:13 says, "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." Can you think of greater proof of love ever shown by anyone?
July 14, 2008

12:16 p.m.

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Steph writes:

Ted, I see you've conveniently left out "turn the other cheek." Christian's are not supposed to be pacificts but how do you reconcile that with being pro-life? Are you only pro-life with other people that believe as you do?

If you believe this nonsense, you are an idiot or nuts.
July 14, 2008

12:17 p.m.

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NotUrFriend writes:

Free,

Haha, good one. I never said my own views were everyones, they're my private beliefs im not ashamed of. I never said my god was everyones god nor implied that might makes right. rather, I was pointing out the exact opposite. The greatest numbers on the planet 1 of every three almost** and you dont see cruisades to kill the non believers do you? Rather, certian others (well, one actually!) do do this, and they're now the second largest belief on the planet.

Steph,

I do not take joy in such an act, I am pointing out that I would do so without pause if the case was forced on me. This is called human nature, believer or otherwise. And your right, I was trying to force you to admit how childish name calling was. Your not a retard, just very immature. I notice how you dont feel 'wrong' about the vicious little thing you said. Very un Christian of you. Dont point out beliefs you yourself dont hold yourself to.

I hope this answers your question, both you.

Have a good one.

I.
July 14, 2008

12:19 p.m.

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Steph writes:

Ted, that's not proof you moron. It's the fairy tale that you are too stupid to question because you know it wouldn't make any sense to you and your other believers.

So, let's see, we have a loving God who brutally murdered his son so noone else will have to pay the ultimate price for their sins?

Answer me this: Why did he have to kill his son to do that? IF God is so powerful and loving, surely there was another way to "bless" his followers and forgive them their sins?
July 14, 2008

12:21 p.m.

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Outlaw writes:

Let's see.
Jesus was a single male and a carpenter.
He will be driving a 4x4 pickup with a gun rack.
Most likely Montana license plates.
July 14, 2008

12:25 p.m.

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Monica030 writes:

I thought this article was about a lion...
July 14, 2008

12:34 p.m.

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Steph writes:

NotUrFriend, I don't have to feel bad about my comments. I'm not religious and I don't follow some ancient text to tell me how to live. You do. Your mind is the immature one buddy.

ezekial, I have no kids. And if I was as powerful as your God is, I certainly would think of a better way to forgive people their sins other than torturing and murdering a family member.
July 14, 2008

12:38 p.m.

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Steph writes:

Outlaw, let's see. Jesus had long hair and a beard, held unpopular views and preached love and life. Sounds more like a hippie than some backwards redneck.
July 14, 2008

12:42 p.m.

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NotUrFriend writes:

Steph,

Rather I follow that or not doesnt make me immature. It's how I choose to interrupt it. I choose to accept the law of the land and do my utmost to upload, follow, and defend it. My Religious beliefs are a personal matter contending only between myself and my savoir. This doesnt mean I'll lay limp while you attack me. Turn the other cheek...yes your right. Turn it once, turn it twice...But the third one would be on my rear, and you being a man...would be a sin! :) So thats that.

I make good money, live a nice life, have friends and family who love and are loved by me. None of that is immature. The only one here showing signs of immaturity is your entry that started this. It had nothing to do with the subject matter, just a stupid boy who hasn't grown up yet. Good luck there. Good gave you the body, and gave nature age, but maturity comes from withen.

I wish you success brother, maybe one day you'll be there.

I.
July 14, 2008

12:43 p.m.

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I_Slay_The_Dragon writes:

A lion? Really? Here kitty-kitty....here kitty-kitty...THIS, is
for The Ancestors.
How much do I get for its SKIN?
Here kitty-kitty....
July 14, 2008

12:45 p.m.

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NotUrFriend writes:

haha, UPHOLD* Sorry. Darn typoes today.

I.
July 14, 2008

12:50 p.m.

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Steph writes:

NOtUrFriend, it's nice to know that you follow the law of the land. Can't wait to hear how you'll follow the law of the land if Gay Marriage is made lawful

BTW, interrupt is not the same as "interpret." Withen is not the same as "within."

BTW, please tell me exactly where the Bible says to offer your butt if turning your cheek doesn't work? Ha Ha Ha

Well, Freethought. You can't blame them for feeling like they've been picked on. They've bullied everyone else from the beginning of their religion and they just don't like how it feels to be the one being bullied.
July 14, 2008

12:52 p.m.

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NotUrFriend writes:

Free,

The Religious 6th Pillar of Islam, the Jihad, has been an ongoing 1400 year plus killing spree that is estimated to of killed between 3 to 5 billion on the planet. nice to see you whitewash that buddy ;)

Since your bringing up that. The Cruisades were a logical response to crouching and gaining grounds of attacking invaders from the middle east area (Islam).

Look into history further buddy. You seem intellegant and I'd love to talk to you further sometime, if your open. Perhaps more privately.

Have a good day, Mondays blow.

I.

P.S. Nice ego trip. Your not intimadating anyone here, just helping pass the time. :)
July 14, 2008

12:55 p.m.

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NotUrFriend writes:

Steph,

My friend Bryan is hoping to travel to California in October to get his marriage license (though its symbolic only :( ) there. I am being invited, and pending available time, I'll go.

I think if its made legal it should be respected.

Dont mix my own beliefs between which I would defend. This country is great because it seperates Church and State (not Mosque though). I would never want to be hired by my beliefs not fired because of them. You're either deaf (or blind) or amazingly gifted at ignoring what people are typing here (saying).

I.
July 14, 2008

12:58 p.m.

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Steph writes:

So Islam went on a killing spree and that gave Christians the right to do the same thing? You don't believe that there were political reasons for the Cruisades as well? If you've read about this before (which you've probably have - you sound decently read) you will remember that the Cruisades eventually failed because sects within Christianity couldn't agree with each other without fighting each other. There was also a great deal of violence, rape, etc. by some of the Cruisaders on the nonbelievers (humans are humans).
July 14, 2008

12:58 p.m.

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Ted_in_Vegas writes:

Steph: God didn't kill his own Son; He allowed Himself to die at the hands of others. Pretty simple. Why? Because the debt has to be paid; even He must follow the rules that He created. Would you rather pay your own debt or allow Him to do it for you?

Turn the other cheek? Yes, if my brother (in Christ or blood) offends me, I'll turn the other cheek. But we are not to suffer at the hands of common criminals and the like either. There is a difference. If someone tries to harm me or my family, I'll shoot them dead center of mass; it is my duty to protect my family and community. These are also Christian teachings.

Yes, I am pro-life. But when a person chooses to violate the civil code and threaten my life or others, that violator - by their own choice - has chosen their own death.

On a side note, how do you know Jesus had long hair? There are no actual descriptions saying whether Jesus had long hair or not. As for preaching love and life; you're somewhat right! He preached eternal life through Him and Love for God!

As for the Crusades, that was a Catholic thing - not a Christian thing. The Catholics murdered any where from 15 million to 50 million Christians over a thousand years too. Don't blame the murdered for the acts of the murderers.
July 14, 2008

1:01 p.m.

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cooperjtd writes:

not quite sure how this turned into a religious debacle. But I hope people do realize that there is no historical proof that jesus even existed. (and no, the bible isn't historical truth, it's a fairy tail) The Christian faith is almost an exact duplicate of the ancient Egyptian faiths. Including the virgin birth, death, and resurrection.
July 14, 2008

1:02 p.m.

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NotUrFriend writes:

Ted,

Brilliantly put! Even God isnt above his own laws. You've a gift for communication I envy. :)

Thank you.

Your Friend,

I.
July 14, 2008

1:04 p.m.

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WestminsterJ writes:

NotURFriend- Seeing as 70-86 % (depending on location) of people livin in the US today are Christian....

Correction: 70-86% of people in the US *identify themselves* as "Christian". Big difference. "Not all who say 'Lord, Lord'..."
July 14, 2008

1:06 p.m.

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NotUrFriend writes:

WestMinsterJ.

Your correct. This country has 303 million living here today. of which 70-77 Percent associate themselves as American. Big Difference. "I pledge alli...."

I.
July 14, 2008

1:09 p.m.

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WestminsterJ writes:

NotURFriend- These we're defensive, as in, you attack me I'll attack back. Its the golden rule of the west (Christian value here bud), do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Funny, MY Bible has Jesus saying "resist not evil" and "if one slaps you on one cheek, turn the other". But that's right, you're reading from the Right-Wing Bible, which I'm sure has removed these verses.
July 14, 2008

1:10 p.m.

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ONEman writes:

Steph it is extremely ignorant to debate on a matter if you don't even know what your talking about, because you have no knowledge on the matter. Have you read the Bible? If so with with an open heart and humility. Or do you just always place yourself on the opposite side? Do you look to judge others to avoid dealing with your own short comings? Your trying to sound like you know what your talking about, but your really just a rowdy fool who will argue about anything. I wish that you would look at the life you breathe everyday and the the love God had by creating you, your family, your eyes, legs, every animal, every sunset and I could go on forever. if you don't see Gods love around you then you've already drown in negativity.
July 14, 2008

1:13 p.m.

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SickNTired writes:

Jesus, Joseph and Mary People!
July 14, 2008

1:16 p.m.

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cooperjtd writes:

for all you religious people out there.... watch part one of this movie, maybe it'll give you some accurate information regarding your faith.

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
July 14, 2008

1:18 p.m.

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NotUrFriend writes:

Coop,

If you think that's bad, check out something called the "Qur'an"

That will grow hair on your chest.

I.
July 14, 2008

1:20 p.m.

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esarem writes:

Wow, how did this get to be about religion? Cool story. I hope everyone, including the big cat, comes out okay.
July 14, 2008

1:26 p.m.

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NotUrFriend writes:

Esarem,

I hope that it's a false story, because some sap with a gun will shot it rather the persons provoked or not. They'll react out of fear, which is expected and not to blame, but sad. I hope the cat is not real, and if it is, its caught by proper means rather than killed.

What a magnificent beasts. Lions I mean!

I.
July 14, 2008

1:26 p.m.

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cooperjtd writes:

sorry noturfriend, I don't put any belief in any faith. it's all man made and thus inaccurate as man itself is corrupt, selfish and greedy.
July 14, 2008

1:27 p.m.

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Ted_in_Vegas writes:

Thank you NotURFriend.

Westminster J: You are correct, I should not resist the evilness being spued forth here. It is folly to debate a fool and only causes the fool to hate even more. Furthermore, it is the fool who hath said in their own heart, "there is no god."

I am sorry.
July 14, 2008

1:32 p.m.

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KP13 writes:

Can we find the lion and put it in this blog so it can eat stef, Notur, and ted, and freethought.....Take your Jesus Debate elsewhere, your offending the Lion!
July 14, 2008

1:38 p.m.

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RealifeTauren writes:

ZOMG, how hilarious, yet sad is this blog...

A lion is on the loose near Colorado Springs, something remarkably surreal in and of itself, yet zealots (of all beliefs, and non-believing is a belief) find a way to make it a political/theological/spiritual flame fest.

Go to the bathroom, look in the mirror, give yourselves a big slap up side the head, rinse your face with some cold water, and enjoy the rest of your afternoon relaxed...not building your own blood pressure up by trying to incite hatred in each other.
July 14, 2008

1:51 p.m.

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meatwad writes:

My favorite part of this article?
"while others searched on horseback with lassos at the ready. "

Is it just me or does that seem like a really bad idea?
July 14, 2008

1:51 p.m.

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Justsaying25 writes:

It seems as if you are trying to find a resolution to a question that lies in the gray area:

At one point you see David slinging a rock at goliath and at another (irony at its best) Daniel sleeping with the lions. Believing this or not is your choice, however the Bible doesn't clearly state what to do in every different situation-

Here's my point- something else is needed in each and every situation which is unlimited to just black and white. It is the something which David and Daniel both had and it is that which is freely given (Book of John) to all who ask for it- which is to guide us and be our Truth- the Holy Spirit.

Now the sketch part of this is anyone can say by the Spirit I believe God is telling me to a genocide of Muslims and Jews alike- Here is another reason why the Bible is needed- almost a baseline to Truth-

So here we argue verses within our chapters of our books of the Word of God and make up our own rules, gods to justify our own beliefs and we misplace the meaning of what it means to be a follower of the Way- instead we just babble and tug further away from us- while the world laughs at us

But if you would really want the Truth of a situation, it is best to understand life by first understanding its Creator which is accomplished through the Spirit and the Word

If someone came to kill me I would find some way to preserve life at all costs- If that means killing the man with the shotgun in his hands-

However talking and walking are two different things-
All I (personally) need to know is God and that His Spirit is with me and will guide me to do the right thing
July 14, 2008

2:01 p.m.

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meatwad writes:

I'm almost coming from the same place as you Justsaying25. I respect other peoples beliefs and let them have them. Though, I don't feel the need to constantly state my beliefs or push them onto others. Someone tells me they're an atheist? More power to them, i'm not gonna try to convince them what i believe is right, because the believe they're right. All that could come out of this is arguments (lower level bickering) and wars (on a grander scale). It's that type of thinking that leave people considering god as one of the biggest mass murderers of all time. Yes a lot of people have died in his name, but I bet he was frowning at the front runners of the past.
July 14, 2008

2:09 p.m.

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mark79trans writes:

Steph writes:

NotUFriend, what other Abrahamic beliefs did I leave out?

BTW, please tell me why it's so important for Christians to have guns. You certainly sound like someone who is not afraid to use it. How do you reconcile this with being pro-life.

Let's see if you have the b**ls to answer my question.

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I think you answered your own question with your previous post when you suggested feeding Colorado Springs Christians to the lion. Since many Christians in fact perished at the hands of Romans in this way along with some being used as human torches, there may be a little sensitivity here to your hateful post. In many places around the world today Christians are persecuted and in some instances perish. It stands to reason that some would train themselves when faced with the ignorance/hatred you presented in your post. Being pro-life means to protect the innocent life of someone unable to protect themselves. If a person entered the presence of me or my family with the intent to do harm, then I will use all my training to stop that individual(s). If deadly force is necessary to stop a perpetrator, that choice was made by the perpetrator not me. It matters little to me if you like or dislike Colorado Springs Christians, Christians, or me. You have the right to your own opinion as do all. As far as owning firearms, we all have the right to own them and use them for our own defense regardless of religious beliefs.
July 14, 2008

2:10 p.m.

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Chadley25 writes:

A story about an escaped lion that's probably a dog has completely devolved into an argument about religion (which is a large fairytale) and God. Ha ha ha... amazing.
July 14, 2008

2:17 p.m.

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Steph writes:

Mark79. DO you not believe in the power of your God to protect you from people who want to hurt you? Maybe if some horrible person did something terrible to your family, you wouldn't realize that it's just God's will?

Do you honestly think Jesus would carry a gun around with him today?
July 14, 2008

2:21 p.m.

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Steph writes:

God loves me so much that if I don't believe in him, I'll be forever tortured in Hell? Listen to the crap you're spreading! According to you, God makes humans with free choice to make their own decisions of right or wrong and then punishes them for not making the corect decision!

I suppose all Buddhists, Muslims, etc. are all destined for Hell because they believe something different.
July 14, 2008

2:33 p.m.

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O_TRAIN writes:

It seems ironic to me the story is about trying to find something which may or may not exist. Some folks swear they've seen it, grainy pictures, etc... others don't believe it, ask folks to check their zoos twice, etc... and then the discussion devolves into the same story - somebody trying to convince somebody that something may or may not exist. Ironic.
My money is on the Lion story being resolved before the God story.

As one poster referenced earlier - I would bring in the Tinman, Scarecrow & Dorothy for questioning.
July 14, 2008

2:33 p.m.

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newshound writes:

There are over 50 different versions of the Bible in English alone....Pretty soon, text will be so diluted that Hell may become Heaven.

As for the Lion...err large dog. How could someone keep it as a pet and nobody know? Its not like you go to the pet store and buy one, there has to be a record of it. I'm getting that is a large dog
July 14, 2008

2:37 p.m.

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Justsaying25 writes:

I think Jesus wouldn't carry a gun but he would do some of that Matrix bullet stopping power- or something cool would happen like bullets would bounce off people like marshmellows

he never owned a sword did he?

In fact when his followers struck someone's ear off, instead he rebuked his follower and healed the ear-

Same way that violence (much like the crusades) deafen people to the Truth-
July 14, 2008

2:41 p.m.

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RUKidding writes:

75 comments and less that 20 relate to the actual news story....LOL
July 14, 2008

2:46 p.m.

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NotUrFriend writes:

Steph,

Everyone Else:

Why not end this silly debate? It's like two colliding opinions that wont budge. End this sillyness already.

Though I completely disagree with everything Steph has manage to vomit up, everything he is spouting is his own right. I dont like nor dislike him, just his choice of cruel and hurtful words. Let him choose his own path and settle his own ends. It's not my right nor anyone's here. He was given a path, let him walk the one of his own, rather its right or wrong.

I.
July 14, 2008

2:47 p.m.

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rckymtnprincess writes:

Cats are everywhere these days. I just saw a pack of Cougars at Elway's in Cherry Creek...word on the street says they're headed in the direction of Cool River.
July 14, 2008

3:04 p.m.

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hkwhite writes:

Steph: your an idiot...

I don't need proof to know air exists, I can't see it, and in a pure form I can't smell it or taste it, but I believe it to be true, because I have faith.

Go away and get back in the unemployment line...
July 14, 2008

3:04 p.m.

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Freshynana writes:

Noturfriend you are a blatent ignorant jerk!!! "I don't like nor dislike him I JUST CALL HIM A RETARD. YOU ARE A FOOL!!!! Go back and read your fiction and blame everthing on jebus or god. I truly despise your religion and what it has done to this country. Get your stupid bible out of MY government get it out of the military and keep it to your own cult. All i wanted to do was read about a lion and this crap is all over. Im sure your a very BIG MAN with lots of BIG GUNS. Freaken hipocrits.
If a lion chews on my face will jebus save me??????
July 14, 2008

3:08 p.m.

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rickg19611 writes:

Funny how some nutcase reads a news story about a lion on the loose in Colorado, and immediately thinks that it would be good to kill Christians. What kind of mental illness is required to come up with that warped idea? And then the idiot hatemonger wonders why no one with an IQ above 12 believes anything he has to say.
July 14, 2008

3:08 p.m.

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Steph writes:

What made you think I'm unemployed hkwhite? I guess you decided to have faith in my unemployment? Having faith seems to keep your mind open for any beliefs without logically questioning them. THAT's what makes YOU an idiot.Talk about calling the kettle beige. Ha Ha.

I can believe in the flying spaghetti monster and that faith is just as real as yours is.

By the way, your an idiot should be you're an idiot.
July 14, 2008

3:12 p.m.

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hkwhite writes:

You ARE still an idiot....typo last time...

so now you are saying you belive in flying spaghetti monsters...good for you

go away and return to the mental hopital you escaped from...

Better??
July 14, 2008

3:12 p.m.

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um_really writes:

I find conversations like this and other like it (especially when they involve race) on these boards absolutely amazing.. I find that liberals are not really liberals and conservatives are not really conservative. I have come to the realization that as a whole humans have stopped evolving and started back down the ladder.

As for the Lion, that is awesome. That would be great if there was a whole pride out in the eastern plains. And you thought we had to worry about the Killer Bees from Africa.
July 14, 2008

3:13 p.m.

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Steph writes:

Funny how some nutcase believes in an invisible sky fairy and wants to shove that belief down everyone elses throats. You have it backward, my friend. Anyone with an IQ above 12 knows what you believe is ridiculous. Unfortunately,a large majority of Americans seem to have IQs below 12, including you.

If you want to know why Christians face so much opposition and hate these days is because people like you have irreparably hurt this great country over the last 7.5 years.
July 14, 2008

3:17 p.m.

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um_really writes:

Steph...just for kicks and giggles
what do base your beliefs in or on?
July 14, 2008

3:24 p.m.

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mark79trans writes:

Steph writes:

Mark79. DO you not believe in the power of your God to protect you from people who want to hurt you? Maybe if some horrible person did something terrible to your family, you wouldn't realize that it's just God's will?

Do you honestly think Jesus would carry a gun around with him today?

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I am saved through my belief in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. This isn't a club membership where the members are free from pain in this world. Accepting and honoring my savior in all things good or bad is something I will always do no mater what happens in this world. That doesn't mean that I won't defend myself or my family in this world. I doubt that Jesus would have much use for a firearm or any tool made by man...I am not Jesus, I am not like Jesus, I believe and honor him as my lord and savior.
July 14, 2008

3:25 p.m.

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Mulligan writes:

WOW...thought this story was about a lion on the loose.
July 14, 2008

3:25 p.m.

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Steph writes:

Hi, um really. My beliefs are based on studying history (social and political) and observing the world in which I live. Also, studying human behaviour.

I've also read the bible and lots of theological history. I was raised Catholic but soon saw the hypocrisy in the religion and left the church.
July 14, 2008

3:29 p.m.

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um_really writes:

Huffdiver....just for kicks and giggles
what do you base your beliefs in or on....

I am just curious
July 14, 2008

3:32 p.m.

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mark79trans writes:

Steph writes:

Hi, um really. My beliefs are based on studying history (social and political) and observing the world in which I live. Also, studying human behaviour.

I've also read the bible and lots of theological history. I was raised Catholic but soon saw the hypocrisy in the religion and left the church.

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There is your problem. Churches are susceptible to the corruption of man like ALL institutions. The Catholic church has certainly had its share of corruption. Being a Christian, and ones salvation as a Christian does not define itself in a church...churches are for the fellowship of believers.
July 14, 2008

3:33 p.m.

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me2 writes:

I know they want to repopulate the Great Plains with animals, but is this what they had in mind?

Rex of the Plains.
July 14, 2008

3:34 p.m.

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temurlan writes:

"while others searched on horseback with lassos at the ready"

Yeah, right! You don't lasso a lion. Even if you could, the horse would probably throw you off and run the other way.

Sorry if someone already said that but the posts became so annoying I couldn't bear to read them.
July 14, 2008

3:36 p.m.

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um_really writes:

Thanks for the insight Steph....
Do you rage against all faiths equally? That maybe too harsh of a way to ask my question.
July 14, 2008

3:38 p.m.

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Steph writes:

I think you're pretty much right on that mark79. ANY religion made by man is going to be subject to human faults: greed, hypocrisy, earthly power, etc.

HOWEVER, I don't feel that's it's a "problem" with me.

Thanks Mark79.
July 14, 2008

3:40 p.m.

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samsmargolis writes:

I'm outraged that they had to refer to it as an "African" lion on the same day a cartoon (satire) of Obama published. I think it's all a conspiracy and I am hereby offended. Not really. Sounded good, though.
July 14, 2008

3:44 p.m.

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um_really writes:

Think about this...maybe just maybe...it is an ancient lion pride that has roamed the vast nothingness of eastern Colorado and western Kansas for thousands of years. The native americans would not even settle there, and as the natives moved from place to place the lions stealthfully stayed one step ahead.
July 14, 2008

3:45 p.m.

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Steph writes:

Hi um_really. I don't have a lot of good to say about most organized religions for the reasons stated in my 3:38 posting,(Islam is even more violent and destructive than Christianity). Also, if you've read a great deal about the history of theology, organized religion (ANY religion) has been the cause of much death and unhappiness in the world.

It' s also unfortunate for Christians that we always hear from the really crooked ones: Televangelists asking for money, Politicians using God to justify going to war and causing death and destruction and, mostly, the politics of hate wrapped in the cross.

How often do we hear from REAL Christians who preach love, acceptance and tolerance? I think the religious are doing themselves a disservice to let the crazy hypocritical idiots speak for them.
July 14, 2008

3:47 p.m.

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fiesty writes:

Why the heck are you nuts talking religious viewpoints on a news story about a LION???? Above, when you post, you agree "not to post comments that are off topic". Hello!

Anyway... I'm with JluvDC. Can you imagine the double takes when people see a freakin' lion roaming around? When I first saw this story, I thought someone must have been smoking a little too much peyote.. meatwad- yep, real brilliant idea. we should nominate them for the Darwin award!
July 14, 2008

3:55 p.m.

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Boarder22 writes:

PLEASE, PLEASE.....someone get video of a person on horseback trying to lasso the lion. I had to re-read that, it sounds like a scene in a bad movie. And, one more thing, pop a shot or two off at all these religious freaks having a stupid debate here that is totally out of place......um_really, Steph, Mark etc.
July 14, 2008

3:55 p.m.

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Squatch writes:

I wonder what this lions immigration status is. Is it an African Lion that is here legally or illegally?

I will be pissed if he is here illegally eating the deer that are for American Mountain Lions.
July 14, 2008

3:57 p.m.

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um_really writes:

That maybe the crux of the problem...just as with anything these days. May it be political, religious, education or even sports you only hear about the bad deeds or the overzealous speak. It is whats sells for pete's sake. How often do we here about the good that is done by anyone unless there had been some sort of natural disaster. We never here about the politician that is actually taking on big oil (not that any actually would)or something like that. We never here about the teacher that has affected so many lives, or how a faith based program has changed lives.
So does that mean that every teacher is bad, does that mean that everyone that attends church or whatever is a zealot ready to blow themselves up, or every head of an organization is cheating and stealing?
You wont here from real Christians because they are too busy with the Lords work to get caught up in all of this
July 14, 2008

4 p.m.

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wow writes:

Did they find the lion yet?

You do rememer the lion, don't you?

Sheesh.
July 14, 2008

4:01 p.m.

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mark79trans writes:

Steph writes:

Hi um_really. I don't have a lot of good to say about most organized religions for the reasons stated in my 3:38 posting,(Islam is even more violent and destructive than Christianity). Also, if you've read a great deal about the history of theology, organized religion (ANY religion) has been the cause of much death and unhappiness in the world.

It' s also unfortunate for Christians that we always hear from the really crooked ones: Televangelists asking for money, Politicians using God to justify going to war and causing death and destruction and, mostly, the politics of hate wrapped in the cross.

How often do we hear from REAL Christians who preach love, acceptance and tolerance? I think the religious are doing themselves a disservice to let the crazy hypocritical idiots speak for them.

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If a religion or even Christianity is used for man's purpose, it can be corrupt because the nature of man is sinful.

However, I have a huge disagreement with your line that says "the politics of hate wrapped up in the cross." The cross, for a believer, is about love and atonement. As a Christian, my sin was paid on the cross and I was saved when I believed that Jesus died and rose from the dead. There is no hate in the cross. There is however, hate in man, that led to the cross.

You mentioned love, acceptance, and tolerance. A believer will show love and tolerance. You are free to make your own choices and I will witness my faith. I will never condemn...that is not my job. However, I will not accept what is not written, but show tolerance when I am in disagreement. For those that try to spread the good news through a bully pulpit, they are doing the message of Christ harm. For those that try to water down the message, they are also doing the message of Christ harm.
July 14, 2008

4:04 p.m.

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Freshynana writes:

Who ever said the thing about evolution is almost right, just backwards. I think we have grown smarter and SOME of us have evolved into higher thought. That is why we don't need the church anymore. My beliefs are based on the One thing that ultimatly controls us all.
MOTHER EARTH. She is already taking it back and the worse is still to come. This is not god's hand but the EARTH. She's the one who created the lion in the first place.
July 14, 2008

4:04 p.m.

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mark79trans writes:

fiesty writes:

Why the heck are you nuts talking religious viewpoints on a news story about a LION???? Above, when you post, you agree "not to post comments that are off topic". Hello!

Anyway... I'm with JluvDC. Can you imagine the double takes when people see a freakin' lion roaming around? When I first saw this story, I thought someone must have been smoking a little too much peyote.. meatwad- yep, real brilliant idea. we should nominate them for the Darwin award!

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This started when a poster thought it important to feed the Colorado Springs Christians to the lion.
July 14, 2008

4:06 p.m.

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rickg19611 writes:

"If you want to know why Christians face so much opposition and hate these days is because people like you have irreparably hurt this great country over the last 7.5 years."

So the same kook that wants to kill people because they don't share his lack of beliefs is now claiming that the 80% of Americans who describe themselves as Christians are to blame for all the things going wrong in the country.

That's the SAME excuse that some Germans used in the 1930s to describe the Jews.... "they should be killed because they have irreparably hurt this great country".

Geez... and then we thought Adolf_H killed himself in a bunker. Either the hate based nut is still alive, or his brand of hate based desire for killing those with different religious beliefs is still running strong among those of weaker IQs.
July 14, 2008

4:07 p.m.

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Steph writes:

Good point, um_really. It is true that some of these creeps aren't speaking for all believers. However, it takes a leap of faith (and defiance of logic) for people to believe what they believe.

It's this anti-intellectual, low education-level "thinking" that gives religion a bad name along with the sputtering of hate against those who (biblically) not like them.

Geez, I can't imagine anyone (including me) having a problem with people who preach love and tolerance and do everything they can to help others. It's just that they can't really do this without having to prove that THEIR God is THE God.
July 14, 2008

4:07 p.m.

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wow writes:

Earth creates man.
Man cages lion.
Lion escapes cage.
Lion eats man with lasso.
Lion poos on earth.

Sounds about right.
July 14, 2008

4:10 p.m.

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Newenergycommie writes:

We finally have a reason for all of those Land Rovers driving around town. Can you say Daktari?
July 14, 2008

4:16 p.m.

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cariengon writes:

Get off of all the religion and keep this about the damn lion!

My sister lives about a mile from the Serentiy Springs place and has mentioned that she's not shocked that one may have escaped. I was worried about her horses, but she's more worried about her dogs and cats...
July 14, 2008

4:17 p.m.

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Steph writes:

DId you forget, rickg19611 that Hitler claimed to be a devout Christian?

Did you forget that the little chimpie in chief was told by his heavenly father that we needed to go to war?

Did you forget that people are overpopulating this world and country because their religion told them abortion was murder or that condoms are sinful? Of course, they don't care because they believe the Rapture is coming soon and it doesn't matter if this Earth survives much longer.

No, not every Christian in the 80% of Americans is personally responsible for the damage done to this country. But, like Good Germans, they are ignoring or justifying all of these things based on their fairytales.

Watch it with your cracks about IQ. NOt only is it UnChristian to insult somebody else, it takes a lower IQ to believe what you believe while ignoring logic, science and history. If you're a Christian, how come you insult other people?
July 14, 2008

4:20 p.m.

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me2 writes:

Want something to really mess your mind?

When the Christians were practically lined up saying "pick me, pick me, I`m a Christian" the Romans were happy to find them that way.

Now had they kept quiet, or said "Heck no, man, I worship Jupiter, same as you", they would have survived. Wonder who really told them they had to witness to go to Heaven? Fellow Christians, or the sneaky Romans.

Think about this.

I can`t find another ancient religion where you had to proclaim your faith, or miss Heaven, is there one?

Could you say "Odin, Odin who, and still get to Valhalla?
July 14, 2008

4:22 p.m.

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SqueegeeKing writes:

Let me get this straight they have pics and found lion tracks but there is not enough evidence to continue the search WTF?
July 14, 2008

4:56 p.m.

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NotUrFriend writes:

Steph,

When I get home I send you alot of information showing how inaccurate and absurd your statement is about Hitler Being a "devout" Christian. Also, unless you've never studied Hitler, you'll be surprised to know his ultimate goal was the abolishment of the Christian faith.

As for "Good Germans" had they known about the Gas Chambers it would of been another story...Why do you think they took so many pains to keep it secret from they're own people?

Your Mistaken. Just wait. I'll show you.

Have a good day.

I.
July 14, 2008

5:08 p.m.

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Ted_in_Vegas writes:

Steph: Honestly, and I do mean this politely, your concept of what Christianity is about is a problem. Yes, we Christians are to love everyone, including - perhaps especially - our enemies. But love and acceptance or tolerance are not the same thing.

I love my children but I do not tolerate lying, cheating, abuse, etc. I love my neighbor, but I do not tolerate trespassing, assault, rape or murder.

Christ told us to be separate from the world, which is to say "Do not be like the world." He also told us to stand against wickedness and immorality. He also told us what is immoral and what is moral (and no, we don't have the right to change that).

There are, and have been, many people who claim to be Christian who are not. The Bible also tells us that we can discern Christians from falsely-claiming Christians by the evidence of thier works. So Hitler could have claimed anything he wanted but I think we can tell by his actions that he was not a Christian. The same goes for most, if not all, of the Popes too. I'm afraid that there are a lot of people who think they are Christians but in reality have no idea what it means to be a Christian.

What bothers me even more is that people, perhaps even you, have shut yourself off to Christianity because of what some false-Christians have done or said.

Please, I challenge you, to read the Bible (I recommend the KJV as it is, historically, the most accurate version to the original scripts) yourself and decide for yourself - as God intended - what it means to be a Christian. If there are parts you don't understand, ask God for help and He will give it.

I think if you take the time to read the Bible yourself, your eyes will see what truly is and what is not Christianity.
July 14, 2008

5:18 p.m.

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Steph writes:

NOtUrFriend, let's see, I've read Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, Explaining Hitler, Toland's Adolph Hitler, Richard J. Evans' first 2 books on the Nazi's (Coming of the Third Reich, Third Reich in Power), the Bunker, Inside the Third Reich and Mein Kampf. I believe the Christian stuff was in Mein Kampf. Will look through it tonight.

Actually, I'd be interested in what you come up with as clearly, I read a lot on this subject.

BTW, Ted, I have read the Bible cover to cover as well as other religious texts.
July 14, 2008

5:32 p.m.

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NotUrFriend writes:

Ted,

I'd like to point out that Hitler was never a devout, in private or otherwise, christian believer. Theres tremendous text and historical items showing this. I'd love to share these if you're interested sometime. I think its good to clear the air of this are many like to point this out as a "Christian" genocide.

I.
July 14, 2008

5:36 p.m.

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NotUrFriend writes:

Steph,

All those items of referance and yet still you claim Hitler a Christian figure. Either you hate us that profoundly or the books you've read avoided the religious enormity of the fact.

I'll happily show you what I've got.

I.
July 14, 2008

5:47 p.m.

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TIMMAH writes:

I can't believe a lion running around a field has brought on a religious war of words. Steph, leave the bible thumpers alone, they will fight to the death about their beleifs, and apparently so will you. Jesus is God in their world, Allah is God in some folk's world and John Elway and Jerry Garcia are my Gods. We are all good people, and hopefully the lion doesn't attack any of us. Peace.
July 14, 2008

5:54 p.m.

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NotUrFriend writes:

Timmah,

LOL! I needed something funny to read before I left work :) Thank you. BTW, I am not a Bronco fan....Though your team seems consistantly to do very well!

Ah.....I remember the old days! Back when the 49er's Dropped the Atom Bomb on Toyko....and Put a man on the moon! Ah, those were the days. They're last two great moments? Smashing the Bronco's in the 80's superball (still got that on VHS!) and When Joe Montana last famous speech "BRING DOWN THIS WALL!" :)

Hope the 'lion' isnt killed and doesnt hurt anyone...Especially someone's innocent dog. Hope this ends as it started, no one hurt and ending with a bit of magic and wonder.

I.
July 14, 2008

7:26 p.m.

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zippydapinhead writes:

I tawt I taw a puddy cat...I did I did see a puddy cat!
July 14, 2008

7:27 p.m.

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glacierdude writes:

Man.....did anybody else read all these posts? This is a story about a possibly misplaced lion and even that was enough to get a couple pretty good wars of words going.

This, like all things is very simple.....it's George Bush's fault.

Now....go to bed!
July 14, 2008

7:41 p.m.

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rickg19611 writes:

IQ level of a nut who reads a news story about a lion and uses it to call for killing Christians = the same IQ level of Germans who wanted to kill Jews and also used nonsense to justify their hate based killing too......
July 14, 2008

7:45 p.m.

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rickg19611 writes:

"I believe the Christian stuff was in Mein Kampf. Will look through it tonight."

Of course any nut calling for people to be killed by the lion just because they hold different religious beliefs would have a copy of Mein Kampf in his home library. No surprise he owns it. Normal Americans don't.
July 14, 2008

10:32 p.m.

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AKdan writes:

Maybe the New Yorker magazine let him go - so he can make his way up to Invesco Field near the end of August, ehhh???
July 14, 2008

10:34 p.m.

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Hedz writes:

Well I for one was kind of excited reading about this lion, until I scrolled down and actually read that someone was actually advocating throwing a LIVE HUMAN BEING to said lion, simply because of a RELIGIOUS BELIEF.......

YIKES......
July 14, 2008

10:38 p.m.

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sldfkd writes:

Guys, you're looking like a bunch of idiots. This is an article about a lion on the loose that doesn't have anything to do with religion. Just drop it, no one is getting anywhere in this discussion.

To change the subject a little bit, I'll throw in a new twist: Obama was in the springs last week, and he was the one who brought the lion here! We don't want someone like that for president, do we?!
July 14, 2008

10:41 p.m.

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AKdan writes:

Yep, I guess there's some bored, 'UN-EMPLOYED' people 'lurking' on here as the 'Non-Lion' or WTF it is lurks around El Paso County...

So, I guess the next question is - whether it's a Republican, Democrat, Chritian, Agnostic, or WTF ???
July 15, 2008

6:40 a.m.

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Juspassinby writes:

Reported. Lion spotted. looks like a Chow.
Comments all about religion. I think I'm in Kansas.
July 15, 2008

8:11 a.m.

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medina88 writes:

I think this lion belongs to someone illegally. That's why they can't find it. The owners already took it back home.
July 15, 2008

8:39 a.m.

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Chadley25 writes:

Religion is evil. Lions are good. :)

That's kind of this entire thread in a nutshell, eh?

Did they discover it to be a dog, after all? I can't seem to find an answer either way at this point.
July 15, 2008

8:49 a.m.

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happymike44 writes:

Here kitty,kitty,kitty mommy's got some little kitty nums,nums for you.
July 15, 2008

8:52 a.m.

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Francesca writes:

Wow, this thread took on a whole new life of its own there for awhile.

Nice kitty... my favorite comment was the one hoping the lion would eat the prairie dogs.
July 15, 2008

2:17 p.m.

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rickg19611 writes:

Some can question the eyewitnesses.... some can question the photo... but the real kicker fact in the case is the report that "tracks found by state Division of Wildlife officers confirmed the animal is an African lion and not a cougar".

Unless the "dog" is wearing fake paws designed to leave lion tracks instead of dog tracks, the tracks pretty much rules out a dog.
July 15, 2008

4:20 p.m.

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cooperjtd writes:

wow ezekiel777, a little high and mighty are we? maybe you should sit and pray for our souls since you people of faith seem to know everything. you taking a simple comment from somebody and claimit as a threat. It truly shows how petty and frightened you really are. Maybe you should lighten up a bit and enjoy life.
July 15, 2008

5:20 p.m.

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Steph writes:

Thank you cooperjtd. I appreciate your post.
July 15, 2008

5:29 p.m.

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Vector049 writes:

Save the lion! Shoot the wingnuts.
July 18, 2008

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LadyBird112 writes:

NotUFriend, what other Abrahamic beliefs did I leave out? \

BTW, please tell me why it's so important for Christians to have guns. You certainly sound like someone who is not afraid to use it. How do you reconcile this with being pro-life.

Let's see if you have the b**ls to answer my question.
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Steph, not that this has anything to do with the lion, but the pro lifers use the guns to shoot the pro choicers. Very Christian, eh?

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Search ends for African lion roaming east of Colorado Springs

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Published July 14, 2008 at 9:42 a.m.

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