'Black National Anthem' brings City Council president hate mail
By Daniel J. Chacon, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)
Published July 1, 2008 at 6:04 p.m.
Updated July 2, 2008 at 3:18 p.m.
Was it appropriate to sing the Black National Anthem at the State of the City address in Denver?
Jazz singer Rene Marie was invited to sing the National Anthem at Mayor John Hickenlooper's State of the City address today. Instead, Marie sang what is known as the Black National Anthem, sparking outrage among some of the estimated 700 people who attended the ceremony.
Denver's City Council president is getting hammered with hate-filled messages in response to Tuesday's surprise performance of the "Black National Anthem" by a jazz singer during a city event.
Chanteuse René Marie had been invited by Mayor John Hickenlooper's office to sing the national anthem during his annual State of the City address.
Council President Michael Hancock, the master of ceremonies, introduced Marie, who sang what is known as the "Black National Anthem" instead.
Her performance evoked angry reactions among some of the estimated 700 people at the event.
"There is no substitute for the national anthem. Period," Councilman Charlie Brown said.
"This is the State of the City address. It's not an NAACP convention," he said, referring to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.
Hickenlooper and his staff said they expected Marie to sing the "The Star-Spangled Banner" and that they were surprised when she sang something different.
In a statement late Tuesday, Hickenlooper said: "I'm disappointed that this matter has been a distraction from the great work and significant accomplishments of our city employees over the past year and the many important initiatives on tap for the coming year."
Hickenlooper said in an interview that he spoke to Marie after the ceremony and that she apologized profusely.
The mayor also said that Marie told him she meant no disrespect.
"She blended the two songs together," Hickenlooper said. "She was trying to make an artistic expression of her love for the country. She did not intend to make a political statement or anything."
Marie sang the first verse of James Weldon Johnson's "Lift Ev'ry Voice and Sing," also known as the "Black National Anthem," but adapted those lyrics to the tune of the "The Star-Spangled Banner."
Marie said she had no regrets. She deliberately didn't tell anybody about her song choice "because I don't think it is necessary for an artist to ask permission to express themselves artistically," she said.
"I would not change a thing," Marie said.
"You have to risk things. You have to. Otherwise, you might of well live your life by a script."
Hancock said he had no idea that Marie was going to sing anything but the national anthem.
"I just read off the script, which was to introduce her to do the national anthem, so I expected the national anthem," he said.
Hancock, who met Marie for the first time Tuesday, said Marie should have cleared her song choice with the mayor and his administration.
It was "inappropriate" that she didn't, he said.
"She certainly should have given the mayor and the administration the opportunity to decide if they wanted her to sing the song that she sang," he said.
Hancock said he's been getting hate-filled e-mails over the song.
"I'm getting — as if I made the decision to do this — I'm receiving a lot of hate mail," he said. "I've received quite a few e-mails that are quite nasty."
LIFT EV'RY VOICE AND SING
also known as "The Black National Anthem"
by James Weldon Johnson
Lift ev'ry voice and sing,
Till earth and heaven ring.
Ring with the harmonies of Liberty;
Let our rejoicing rise,
High as the list'ning skies,
Let it resound loud as the rolling sea.
Sing a song full of the faith that the dark past has taught us,
Sing a song full of the hope that the present has brought us;
Facing the rising sun of our new day begun,
Let us march on till victory is won.
Comes from http://www.black-network.com/anthem.htm
July 1, 2008
5:15 p.m.
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Dinty writes:
A total lack of respect for the occasion.
July 1, 2008
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me2 writes:
Another nit picked to death.
July 1, 2008
5:21 p.m.
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ollie writes:
WEH! WEH! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! BUNCH OF WHINEY PISS ANTS!
July 1, 2008
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samsmargolis writes:
The whole event seemed to be like a bad cartoon. Hickenlooper couldn't even be bothered to find a coat & tie for the occassion. The black national anthem fits with the goofy character of that entire city - which is why I avoid business there like the plague.
July 1, 2008
5:24 p.m.
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Andy writes:
Ah, the power of civil disobedience.
You have to admit, that took guts.
July 1, 2008
5:27 p.m.
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Michael writes:
Maybe Glenn Morris should have also been invited with his drum banging morons in tow too? How about having the Mexican flag and singing their anthem? Maybe the freakin' Dalai Lama could have swung by for few words. And let's not forget the rainbow flag of our gay/lesbian/bi/transgender/whatthehellami friends. Sure don't want to offend anyone - unless you prefer the National Anthem and the Stars & Stripes without any clutter, like most of us do.
July 1, 2008
5:29 p.m.
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aRe writes:
Holy crap! - Say it aint so!! Everyone in attendance must've had to run home to put on thier flag pins, reread thier loyalty oaths, smear good ol' American apple pie all over thier bodies, and whistle Yankee Doodle Dandy out thier butt holes just to clense themselves from such an unAmerican experience!!!
I'm so glad that we don't have any real problems so we can continue to focus on the real important ones like this!
July 1, 2008
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rickg19611 writes:
Typical Democrats.
July 1, 2008
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jacka writes:
Hickenlooper and Union City Hall - maybe next year they'll sing Solidarity Forever, Come and Join the Union or Comrade Fettler.
YES on Amendment 47 shouldn't all Coloradans have the Right to Work.
YES on 47 for paycheck protection and choice.
National Dishonor at Denvers' Union City Hall.
July 1, 2008
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July 1, 2008
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ollie writes:
Not hard to pick out the racist is it SASQUATCH?
July 1, 2008
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Quidam writes:
"THE CHICKENS HAS COME HOME... to the ROOSTERS!"
July 1, 2008
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jacka writes:
Reported on the radio that the Mayor's press office had him quoted something to the effect of no one really noticed and folks didn't seem to mind.
Steller leadership mr. mayor.
July 1, 2008
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July 1, 2008
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joeblow writes:
Whoa! For a moment, I thought NORAD had spotted missiles headed this way....Michael.
Charlie Brown (and could a councilman have a better name?), once again clusily used the event to get his name in the headlines. (HINT: Chas...accomplish something that benefits the whole city instead of *itching and moaning about a song if you really want to be remembered for something!) Hmmmmm. What's new?
Folks, gas is four bucks a gallon and rising fast. Milk is heading the same way. The impact from the loss of crops in the Midwest is headed this way. Georgie Boy is plotting an attack on Iran before he leaves office. AND SOME PEOPLE HAVE GOT A GNAT IN THE BUTT OVER A FREAKING SONG? What is wrong with this picture....MICHAEL?
July 1, 2008
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American100 writes:
Renee Marie just did McCain a HUGE favor.
I said it on another post and I'll say it again.
Renee - you just bit the democrats in the AS*S.
Thanks
July 1, 2008
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July 1, 2008
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Jan8 writes:
It's not hard to see why and how we are loosing our country is it? Don't tell me this girl didn't know what she was doing, was she asked to sing the Black National Anthem? Obviously her color is more important to her than this country. Is it a "black pride thing"? Is she trying to tell us she wished the U.S were a black country? I'm not trying to smear her, but explain to me what the hell that was about?
The response of some here are a typical example of the stinking attitude toward this country even by many of it's own people, they think angry dissent is patriotic, if you ask me they hate both the country and anyone who isn't "democratically liberal" enough to let it all hang out in disrespect. Bet I'll be called a racist and or bigot for MY opinion tho. Their kind of freedom is reserved for those who are not Christian and or conservative.
Can you imagine what it would be like for whites if we had a "White National Anthem"????
I heard someone saying this had nothing to do with race? what?
Hickenlooper is a tieless whimp. I'm with Shaggy- if he can't control this how is it gonna go at the Democratic Convention?
July 1, 2008
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youngman writes:
It was racist..she is a racist...why would anyone hire her.....I hope she didn't get paid...and yes all the Democrats didn't notice....the Hate America crowd just said oh well.....Charlie brown is the only republican on the City Council...he noticed...
"Its just a song".....NOT
Let me sing Dixie at the next George Washington High School basketball game and see what comments I get...
July 1, 2008
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BJG writes:
Maybe Marie thought she was in a different country and that they didn't have a national anthem. Or maybe she thought she could introduce a new national song that we all would like better than what we have been singin in the past. Maybe she should have asked permission instead of offering an apology. Maybe this is the last time Marie will be singing at any city event.
July 1, 2008
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Mighty_Mile writes:
no on Amendment 47, it destroys collective bargaining for the working class and further marginalizes hard working Coloradans.
July 1, 2008
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scotterjag writes:
all i can say about her, and anyone who supports her, is CLASSLESS! when given the chance to sing The National Anthem, it should be considered an honor, and not one's personal platform to express their views. if you want to express your views like that, i'll buy you a one way ticket to any other country you want to live in, and you can get the hell out of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!
July 1, 2008
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Oh_Wise_One writes:
Staff- Why was my comment removed? Was it the description Obamessiah? or was it "the fat lady sings"? WTF is wrong with you censors? Haven't you ever heard the phrase "the game is over when the fat lady sings"? Good gawd and you throwing blocks for Barry. Pathetic.
July 1, 2008
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American100 writes:
I'll pitch in on that one way ticket out of the US.
Renee Marie - If I told you what you are, the RMN would delete my post.
July 1, 2008
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July 1, 2008
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American100 writes:
HAHAAAAA - I love it Wise One.
RememberThis - you and my wife think alike.
She said she would have started in with the Pledge of Allegiance at the top of her lungs. She's shy about singing in public or it would be the National Anthem.
July 1, 2008
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joeblow writes:
youngman writes:
It was racist..she is a racist...," says Youngman. Good to know we have someone like him/her explain what true racism is. Exactly how does this compare to killing Freedom Riders or Emmitt Till- type racism? "Hate America," again, the resident oracle, Youngman.
"Lift Every Voice" = "Dixie"? Youngman? You're supposed to enjoy the sun, not stand in it until you become delusional (or stupid).
Now, Jan8...."Losing our country"? Because of a song? How 'bout that thing called the "Patriot Act?" Don't you think that's a little more severe than a freaking song? "Her color is more important than her country?" Jan8, a little hyperbole? Christian? Conservative? As a Christian, don't you know a little about that biblical ditty about 'judging lest not ye be judged?' Conservative? Is this what conservatives spend their time on? Songs? Especially ones that impact our lives not one iota?
Folks, it's been a matter of hours since this "transgression against all that is good" occured. How have your lives changed?
Save your energy for something really important. Let's start with that little ol' Patriot Act....Jan8.
July 1, 2008
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nonayerbsns writes:
SHE APOLOGIZED PROFUSELY and SHE WOULDN'T CHANGE A THING. What the fkuc?
July 1, 2008
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JonJax71 writes:
What is so negative about the lyrics of Lift Ev'ry Voice and Sing?
Even if you don't know them the words are printed for all to see. Please point out the "unpatriotic" words of this very positive song that doesn't mention race or color.
Jose Feliciano "dared" to scat at the end of his singing of the anthem at the 1968 Major League All-Star Game in Detroit that was televised nationally by NBC, a year later Jimi Hendrix gave us a rock version at Woodstock.
I found it more disrespectful that the councilman who introduced Ms. Marie stumbled and didn't say her name correctly.
July 1, 2008
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Finding_Forever writes:
The whites are angry now, there will be hell to pay!
July 1, 2008
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Finding_Forever writes:
Oh and kudos to RMN for posting this story on the front page. Way to get a mini-race riot started on your site. Great job editors, great job!
July 1, 2008
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American100 writes:
JonJax71- You are missing the point by a mile.
She was slated to sing the National Anthem but instead she represented herself and "her race" as sneeky low life, American haters.
I am glad she did.
This cost Obama lots of votes.
I hope this hits national news over and over just like when Obama Mama said she had never been proud of America.
McCain can just sit back and let the Obama followers bite Obama in the AS*S.
July 1, 2008
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Alive writes:
One more thing to divide us. To focus on what our differences are rather than what we share is dysfunctional. Displays like today are selfish things. Things best left to the schoolyard.
Too many people base their personal identity on their DNA rather than their personal accomplishments. DNA is something we do not choose. It really isn't much of an accomplishment to be any certain color. What you DO WITH YOUR TIME ON EARTH defines who you are and nothing else.
True adults see the folly of such inappropriate behavior. Those steeped in hatred do not.
July 1, 2008
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ollie writes:
All you don't forget to wash and press your white robes for the convention.
July 1, 2008
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Alive writes:
WOW ollie! You sure showed us. You must be a born leader.
July 1, 2008
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AC writes:
I just read the words to "Lift Every Voice and Sing." What is wrong with you fools? Holy cow. Cost Obama votes? Anybody who reads the song's lyrics will be moved to patriotism. You bigots are astounding in your knee-jerk ill-informed comments.
July 1, 2008
8:23 p.m.
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mikeyg writes:
Let's see, she told nobody but her husband and mentor, so she had a pretty good idea what she was about to do was inappropriate at best, despicable in reality. Mayor Hickenlooper can only bring himself to express his "disappointment" when he clearly should have expressed his disgust. And she did it to celebrate her anticipated President Obama.
Look here, folks, this is what Democrats in power looks like. Get a real good look at it and understand this is what you'll be voting for if you chose Obama and Udall on your ballot this fall. It is pure, unadulterated hatred towards America, all she ever has been, all she is, and for anyone who opposes reparations, black superiority, gay superiority and white apology and oppression to "atone for the sins of the past" these Democrats and so called agreived groups demand.
Quit kidding yourself if you think it will be anything but what you've seen already. All "change" isn't good.
July 1, 2008
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American100 writes:
AC it that she was supposed to sing the National Anthem not turn it into a racial conflict.
You're kidding yourself if you think this won't cost Obama votes.
July 1, 2008
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Finding_Forever writes:
Everyone that actually knows the lyrics, or have read them doesnt have a problem with it AC. Just the fact that its known as the Black National Anthem is enough to get them all rallied up. "We cant have the negros making up songs that represent their freedom and pride, its an abomination and must be dealt with swiftly!"
July 1, 2008
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WyoDutch writes:
As a lifelong Goldwater Republican, I'm voting for Obama.
The GOP, under the inept watch of the Connecticut Cowboy has lost their way. Good Lord... running McCain for President????
I figure the last, best hope for the Republic and the Grand Old Party is 4 years of seeing our American culture stamped underfoot by the Obamaites. If that doesn't wake us up... nothing will.
July 1, 2008
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ccon writes:
Neat! I never really liked the original version anyway.
July 1, 2008
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mrfxx writes:
This article points out that the performer was asked to perform the National Anthem and chose to substitute the "black national anthem" (just curious: which nation) so she should at least be reprimanded and, as others have said, never given the opportunity to pull a stunt like that again. (It would be an entirely different situation if her choice was pre-approved - which this article clearly states was not the case.)
Meanwhile - for those of you who are so irate that a black would dare pull a stunt like this, one must guess that you will be attending the "Stars and Bars Boat Parade" on Lake Dillon on the Fourth. Or will you protest that chosen title (considering that the Stars and Bars was used as the official flag of the Confederacy from March 1861 to May of 1863) - or is it acceptable when a bunch of whites pull a stunt like that?
July 1, 2008
8:36 p.m.
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LoneTreeLady75 writes:
African-Americans are just as much apart of this countries history as anyone else, so whats all the fuss about? Maybe she shouldnt have mixed it in with the "regular" anthem, but this is minuscule in the grand scheme of things to the people that are actually worried about their brothers in Iraq, or the cost of a gallon of milk & gas, or the gross amount of child molestors in the country.
July 1, 2008
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MaxInEnglewood writes:
She didnt do the ol' shuck and jive afterwards, or give a mighty fine thanks to the "nice mistahs" for the gracious opprotunity. Maybe thats what mad them mad? (sarcasm)
July 1, 2008
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July 1, 2008
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MaxInEnglewood writes:
made*
July 1, 2008
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peachy0301 writes:
The point is that she chose to sing what is known as the "BLACK national anthem" instead of THE National Anthem. She knew what she was asked to do and she chose to do something else to promote the same types of things that have been prevalent in Obama's campaign. From Michelle Obama's comments about how she has never been proud of her country until her husband ran for president, about how we are hate-filled, and on and on. From Jeremiah Wright and his hate filled anti white speech. From every aspect of race that the Obama campaign has pushed this fits right in.
Expect more of this if Obama is elected president. It's not just what is said, it's the "attitude".
July 1, 2008
8:52 p.m.
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Finding_Forever writes:
Exactly what "attitude" peachy? Please enlighten me...
July 1, 2008
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Scott writes:
Oh now come one RMN! I only quoted the old Soviet national anthem! What was sooooo offensive about that? Was it because I attributed it to the democrats? I'll have you wimps know that I am a democrat!
scott
July 1, 2008
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Oh_Wise_One writes:
The next time some Black or African-American or Negro person is offended because some 'white' person did something they don't agree with... tough. Be offended, that's your problem.
July 1, 2008
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olsonmt writes:
There is no such thing as a black national anthem - I don't care what anyone calls it. Why is it that the people who don't see this event as a place for a (fictitious) black national anthem are called racists? Are they not advocating the exact opposite of racism? This was improper, disrespectful, and unecessary - ironic that Marie thinks this is a necessary statement during a year when a black (and white) man is going to be President.
July 1, 2008
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olsonmt writes:
There is no right or wrong in the liberal mind. There is no good or evil in the liberal mind. There is no respect or disrespect in the liberal mind. The above comments prove the resident liberals on the DP posts will even support what was a very tasteless act.
Who's lying? Either Hickenlooper lied that she apologized or she is lying that she wouldn't change a thing.
July 1, 2008
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MattGuyver_007 writes:
She was asked to sing the National Anthem- not a 'Black' derivation thereof.
Racism will only be truly solved when there is NO 'Black', 'White', etc... when skin color is not even mentioned or considered.
Still today, it doesn't go both ways- the white, Christian man is always branded the racist.
July 1, 2008
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Cliffjumper writes:
It has nothing to do with the words of the song she sang. It is a nice song. The issue is this was an official meeting and she was supposed to sing our National Anthem. She in essence slapped every American Patriot in the face by substituting another song. If Hicky had flown another flag besides the American Flag we would be just as upset. Once again we can all see what "patriotism" means to the left. Hate and attack America and those that stand up for her. So go ahead call me a "flag waiver, apple pie loving, red necked, racist, bigot, ect." I know where my loyalties are, and am proud of my country, it's flag, and what it stands for! I am not ashamed to be hated by the enemies of my country both foreign and domestic. I really can't believe this happened of all weeks, during the week of the 4th of July. This was a classless lady who deserves no respect or sympathy. I hope she hears it when next she performs in the mile high city.
PS I have never seen so many deleted comments before, I think a couple people were very upset like me.
July 1, 2008
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July 1, 2008
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SteveC writes:
Why is there a "Black national anthem"? We don't have a White national anthem or Asian or Hispanic or whatever national anthems. I guess I don't get it. The national is is just that, The NATIONAL anthem.
July 1, 2008
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Finding_Forever writes:
Well said McGowdog!
July 1, 2008
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Scott writes:
Cliffjumper:
I completely agree with your comments.
Regarding your "ps" my comment was a sarcastic comment that I would have thought that it would have sang the old Soviet national anthem. The "pantie waists" at RMN yanked that. I sent an email to Daniel J requesting and explanation as to what was so offensive. I'll post the response ... if I get one.
Scott
July 1, 2008
9:11 p.m.
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T1anda writes:
This Rene Marie(who?) pulled a sneaky, classless and completely tacky stunt.
There is only ONE National Anthem for America Rene!!! GET OVER IT!!You're nothing but an arrogant, little known, (loosley!!)singer.
July 1, 2008
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Cliffjumper writes:
"titancain writes:
I guess no rapes were committed by Catholic Priests today. Yet this what the far right whites christians are enraged about? Hipocrites."
Hmm now that does not sound racist, must be a liberal so this kind of thing is ok to say. How could I have been so mistaken to think it could be racism? funny how no comments here have been posted by self described "white Christians" and yet Titancain is convinced only white Christians are enraged about this travesty of our National Anthem. go wonder-
July 1, 2008
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arby writes:
The lyrics to the song Rene Marie sang are very good and she does the song justice. It's not racial and applies to all Americans, in fact to all people anywhere.
However it was not the song she was invited to sing. Period. If the Mayor had any cajones he would have taken the mike out of her hand and excused her on the spot.
But I forget he's a politician.
July 1, 2008
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Scott writes:
arby sez: "... If the Mayor had any cajones ..."
It's the first thing to go when they run for office ;-)
Scott
July 1, 2008
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kali73 writes:
Well, Rene got her spotlight by giving up her country. Too bad because she really is an awesome jazz club singer - but apparently has no personal responsibility like the rest of America! Also, how can RMN report Hickenlooper said "that she apologized profusely" yet also saying "she has no regrets"?
July 1, 2008
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Cliffjumper writes:
I just read hicky's statement. I can not believe he is only sorry this is a distraction. He has no respect for our National Anthem, talk about crass, and at a state of the city meeting? Wow, that has to be a new low, might even be worse than the slap to our National Anthem by the floozy singer.
July 1, 2008
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dragonfly writes:
This is from the last line of the Black National Anthem - "True to our God, true to our native land." The word "America" nor any other reference to the United States appears in this anthem. What is meant by "native land"?
July 1, 2008
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imjonah writes:
As a Public Service for all my friends from the left, the words to your anthem.
"The Internationale"
1. Arise! ye starvelings, from your slumbers;
Arise! ye prisoners of want.
For reason in revolt now thunders
And ends at last the age of cant.
Away with all your superstitions
Servile masses, arise! arise!
We’ll change henceforth the old tradition
And spurn the dust to win the prize.
Chorus
So comrades, come rally
And the last fight let us face
The Internationale
Unites the human race.
July 1, 2008
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Scott writes:
imjonah,
You're in trouble now! I posted the first verse of the soviet national anthem and the pansies at RMN nuke it.
Scott
July 1, 2008
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July 1, 2008
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Scott writes:
Oh_Wise_one,
They gotcha! ... but they left imjonah. The P.C. Thought Control at RMN is working overtime! Maybe they've got a rookie working the DELETE key tonight. Good thing I didn't repost my original comment.
Scott ;-)
July 1, 2008
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jacka writes:
It is wrong to email Hancock, call Hickenlooper instead.
July 1, 2008
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Scott writes:
Oh_Wise_One,
It is now 10:05 and the RMN P.C. Thought Control hasn't nuked your 9:56 repost. It must be on a potty break ;-)
Scott
July 1, 2008
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JonJax71 writes:
Arby wrote <<<If the Mayor had any cajones he would have taken the mike out of her hand and excused her on the spot >>>
Cajones? what do having boxes apply your statement?
July 1, 2008
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Scott writes:
JonJax71:
In answer to your question, nothing. The RMN purity filter will not let you spell c0jones. Note that I had to use a zero instead of the letter 'o'.
Scott
July 1, 2008
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American100 writes:
I just saw this low life America hater on the news (Marie).
She is as dumb as the stunt she pulled & she said she does NOT apologize for it.
POS
July 1, 2008
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Synsatational1 writes:
***Just another example of *reverse racism*
It validates my belief that blacks are every bit as racist against whites,as whites have ever been to them!!!
And before you cry and call me a hater/racist.......just give everybody a little lie detector test for verification....(I'm sure you'll find the results,quite interesting)
July 1, 2008
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Scott writes:
Oh_Wise_One,
Oops, the RMN P.C. Thought Control just got back from potty break at 10:09. They nuked it :-)
Scott
July 1, 2008
10:13 p.m.
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Who_Me writes:
Let's go. Who's up for writing the white national anthem?
July 1, 2008
10:13 p.m.
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TroubledOne writes:
Just wait untill Obama is president and then we will see this crap all the time.
July 1, 2008
10:16 p.m.
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kotamax writes:
Nice song, but NOT the national anthem. I do not understand how people can profess to be American, and yet want their own rules. Do they not understand the concept of UNITED States? That means that there are certain standards, etc that are universal for ALL Americans. ONE American flag, ONE national anthem, etc. If you are an American citizen, BE AMERICAN. It doesn't matter what your color or your religion is. If you don't want to be an American, then do us all a favor and move to another country.
July 1, 2008
10:16 p.m.
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Openminded1 writes:
It might have been wrong, but a race war, come on folks, end of the election process, the soviet union, she's a racist, america is going to burn..this is pathetic..LOL LMAO...and people think there is no racism in america..
July 1, 2008
10:17 p.m.
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July 1, 2008
10:17 p.m.
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mojosloho writes:
Made the fool of the Mayor....Although that's not hard to do!
What a completely selfish act....by a completely selfish person. Still divided country we stand!!!
July 1, 2008
10:20 p.m.
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Synsational1 writes:
***What's next.....A Black National Flag???
July 1, 2008
10:20 p.m.
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TroubledOne writes:
HICKenlooper has been a total hayseed limp wristed mayor from the start. Why do we expect anything diffrent from him now.
July 1, 2008
10:21 p.m.
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dragonfly writes:
Rene Marie is drinking the Barrack Koolaid. Her spiteful attitude toward this country is clearly evident. Expect more of this as Barrack marches toward victory. The black-white crevice is widening and sadly, it will swallow this country down to its darkest depths.
July 1, 2008
10:21 p.m.
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Synsational1 writes:
***Or maybe..........A Black 4th of July???
July 1, 2008
10:21 p.m.
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WestminsterJ writes:
imjonah- Thanks! That was inspiring!
July 1, 2008
10:22 p.m.
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Spuds writes:
Sounds like fear of a Black Planet or Country anyway. Just wait till Obama gets in office.
Looks like the shoe is on the other foot now. Ha!
July 1, 2008
10:25 p.m.
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Synsational1 writes:
***Here's a motto for all the minorities in this great Country........"America,Love It....Or Leave It"
July 1, 2008
10:25 p.m.
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Scott writes:
synsational1 questions: "***What's next.....A Black National Flag???"
Yup. Check out this site: http://www.richmonddiocese.org/obc/fl...
or this one, http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/Flags/us...
Scott
July 1, 2008
10:26 p.m.
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American100 writes:
Not yet spuds. Obama followers keep biting him in the AS*S.
July 1, 2008
10:26 p.m.
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Synsational1 writes:
Hey Spuds.....thanks for proving my point!!!
July 1, 2008
10:28 p.m.
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Spuds writes:
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Synsational1 writes:
***Here's a motto for all the minorities in this great Country........"America,Love It....Or Leave It"
I thought that the Whites are now the minority in Denver nowadays. Wonder where they will go?
July 1, 2008
10:29 p.m.
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Synsational1 writes:
Scott-
Thanks.....(good to know about that)
July 1, 2008
10:31 p.m.
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July 1, 2008
10:33 p.m.
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Spuds writes:
All that meeting was missing was Ward Churchill as the keynote speaker.
I'm telling ya this could be the change that Obama keeps talking about.
July 1, 2008
10:36 p.m.
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SteveT8 writes:
Poor dear. She thought Barack had already been elected and his promised changes had already come to pass. Just a little premature. Barack might just appoint her to the Supreme Court where she can continue the fine liberal tradition of re-writing America's codes and heritage she doesn't agree with.
July 1, 2008
10:41 p.m.
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Synsational1 writes:
Westminsterj/Spudnic........Isn't it ironic that your boy-(Great Black Hype-O'bama)could be the catalyst for bringing awareness of your evil intentions to the white majority and ultimately destroying his chances for presidency.(I hope so)
July 1, 2008
10:50 p.m.
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Spuds writes:
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Synsational1 writes:
Westminsterj/Spudnic........Isn't it ironic that your boy-(Great Black Hype-O'bama)could be the catalyst for bringing awareness of your evil intentions to the white majority and ultimately destroying his chances for presidency.(I hope so)"
Now why did you go and have to call him "boy"?
July 1, 2008
10:53 p.m.
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Synsational1 writes:
Yeahhh boyyyyyy!!!
July 1, 2008
10:55 p.m.
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Darvvin writes:
Yesterday, no one knew who she was.
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Tomorrow, she will be a household name.
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Cha-Ching and Bling Bling!
July 1, 2008
10:55 p.m.
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Synsational1 writes:
***Just a little sumpt'n sumpt'n I picked up from Snoop Dogg!!!
July 1, 2008
10:56 p.m.
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Spuds writes:
But seriously as an earlier poster mentioned this was an act of civil disobedience and you have to admit it took a bawlz to to pull it off.
And what gets me if everyone was so outraged why were they applauding afterwards?
We shall over come.
July 1, 2008
10:59 p.m.
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American100 writes:
She just killed her career.
Most club owners don't want so much conflict. There are lots of talented singers out there you can replace her.
They will find out quickly how many DO NOT support this anti-American attitude.
July 1, 2008
11:08 p.m.
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mmmark217 writes:
First off, let me say, that I beleive in an individuals right to beleive in just about anything. Having said that, I am completely and utterly insulted by this action. Last time I checked, THERE WAS ONLY ONE NATIONAL ANTHEM IN THIS COUNTRY. This was a completely devisive act. The National Anthem is written and used as a means to Unite the Country, not devide it. And like I said, LAST TIME I CHECKED THERE WAS ONLY ONE NATIONAL ANTHEM IN THIS COUNTRY. If she was paid to perform, I absolutely would Stiff her.
July 1, 2008
11:09 p.m.
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Synsational1 writes:
Spudnic....thanks,dude.You keep proving my point,it's totally awesome bra- ((glad you noticed the "boy" part of O'bummer!!!))
July 1, 2008
11:27 p.m.
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portal_pyramids writes:
I truly find it sad that people are so polarized in their views. Because she is black, it becomes a race issue. Because it's not white guys with suites it's liberal democrats. How is this supposed to reflect on Obama or somehow reveal the future?
It is so sad that some people think because of this Obama will lose votes or that somehow McCain is a better candidate for it. The way I see it John McCain is aligned with the Bush administration and we can expect more of the same. He thinks the biggest threat to our country is terrorism and Republicans think with their guts. Scary stuff.
If you have lost your identity or never had your own that you feel you need to divide and separate it is a shame that you fail to realize we are all connect and yet unique. I hate to see racism is still alive and well and that republicans are up to their old tricks of trying to use fear and hate to get votes. I see through it all and i hope there are others.
July 1, 2008
11:33 p.m.
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BillK writes:
If the singer said she did it on purpose, “has no regrets” and states “I would not change a thing,” how does that correlate with:
"Hickenlooper said in an interview that he spoke to Marie after the ceremony and that she apologized profusely."
If she did it on purpose and would do it again, why did she “apologize profusely”?!?!
Chacon should have done more to pursue THAT angle of the story…
July 1, 2008
11:34 p.m.
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aRe writes:
Wow, so much blind nationalism here... It almost borders on sheer facism.
When will some of you actually get the fact that the REAL beauty of the flag, the National Anthem, and all he other things that make our country so wonderful is that these things can be challenged, reinturpreted, or even burned.
Without the rights that these symbols represent a flag is just a piece of cloth and the National Anthem is just an awkward song (actually poem) to sing.
July 1, 2008
11:42 p.m.
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portal_pyramids writes:
I can feel the fear and anger in some of these comments. That is the scary thing. Look in the mirror and speak some of the things you type. It might just wake you up from the hate and fear.
Does anyone really want things to continue as they are? I know change can be scary but consider the alternative.
July 2, 2008
12:08 a.m.
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gem writes:
National Black Anthem???? James Weldon Johnson wasn't even black!!!
July 2, 2008
12:12 a.m.
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nimbusco writes:
Folks, there is a white national anthem. It's called "The Star Spangled Banner". Written by a white man, set to a white drinking tune, about a battle fought between white people. It was not adopted as the national anthem of the USA until 1931, over 100 years after it was written and 31 years after "Lift Every Voice and Sing" was written in 1900. Before 1931, "The Star Spangled Banner" was one of several patriotic songs used at important events. For many years, "Hail, Columbia!" was the first choice. "Lift Every Voice and Sing" is a song written by blacks that they preferred to use at the time, as it spoke more directly to their experience coming out of slavery.
I would say doing a surprise substitution of the lyrics was not a good idea on the singer's part. But it's not a racist song. I'm white and I've sung it during MLK and similar events (even before I knew it was the "black national anthem").
July 2, 2008
12:48 a.m.
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Joebob writes:
I'm personally stunned by the level of hate, racism, and ignorance show by some of the people here. Most of you have confused patriotism with nationalism, and are obviously convinced that criticism is unpatriotic- what you are all espousing is not democracy, not even republicanism, but a blunted form of fascism, where only ideas that are positive to the current administration or ruling party is acceptable.
Firstly, your fallacious comments regarding Ms. Marie's song and it's assumed effect on the DNC are beyond uninformed- will this affect Sen. Obama because he's black and she sung the "black national anthem"? Probably not- she never said anything about politics and I assume neither did this in support of or in collusion with Obama or the Democratic party... Asserting that it will somehow have an effect clearly illustrates a racial intent- She's black, and so is Obama! Bam- Limbaugh Logic. It's not true- does McCain lose votes every time someone with an Irish surname does something unpopular? No. Does one woman not singing the song she was supposed to bode ill for the security of the DNC? Not likely... 50,000 protesters is not anything at all like one jazz singer invited to sing at city hall. (And the fact that no one interrupted is a good indication that all those assembled were at least polite.)
Secondly, have you ever thought that people like you are the reason the Republican party and conservatism in general is so unpopular these days? Blind, unwavering support for a corrupt administration, thinking you're patriots by waving your flags and signing off on oppression, posting vaguely racist comments on the RMN board... It may surprise some of you, but Black people, Hispanic people, non-Christians,and even women can vote nowadays! And not all of them are liberal socially or fiscally- but when the face of the Republicans and conservatism on the ground is a bunch of blind nationalists, overcome by the perfume of their patriotism and love of "America, our way or no way"- it turns more people away than attracts them. Why would I want to continue to vote for a party that has trampled our constitution, threatens our rights, advocates a single religion, and spends money like it's going out of style... I'd rather have Eugene Debs in office right now than turn the country over to people like yourselves. What Republican businessman would want to associate with a bunch of people who speak with forked tongues about any of their customer base? What socially conservative black man would want to even be remotely associated with "patriots" like you?
Should she have sung the national anthem? Maybe. Does it offend me that she didn't? Not at all- an essential part of democracy is the voice of the people: I don't always agree with what everyone says, but that's what made this country great- not just some words set to a British drinking song.
July 2, 2008
2:44 a.m.
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mikeyg writes:
Rene Marie article in RMN, 1/12/08:
"They also know about her penchant for risk - for defying authoritarian club owners, for liberating standard tunes from their ancient cocoons, for launching her socially provocative originals, with scant rehearsal, in packed concert halls."
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news...
So Hick & Co. are trying to put out that they had no idea she would do her own "socially provocative" rendition of the U.S. National Anthem? My rear end. Don't be duped folks by their non-apology apologies. This is the modern liberal, Democratic party, Hick, Obama, all of them. They'll urinate on you and tell you it's raining.
Obama, Hick, all of them represent a cleverly repackaged radical liberalism, a liberalism that wants to reinvent this nation in their image, their socialist idea of utopia, casting off all of the traditions and values that have made her great. I expect the nonsensical defenses raised by the radical liberals in these comments; this is all part of their agenda. But to you independent thinkers and centrists out there being drawn in by the siren song of Obama and his supporters: The change they offer is not the change you want.
July 2, 2008
3:03 a.m.
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jugdish writes:
Andy writes:
Ah, the power of civil disobedience.
You have to admit, that took guts.
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Jugdish so offended by this all.
No guts. No civil disobedience.
Disrespect. Selfishness.
Remind Jugdish of when protesters picket at funeral of soldiers.
Shameful. Wrong place for statement making.
July 2, 2008
4:34 a.m.
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Vector049 writes:
Thanks to this soul stunt I have become very leery about voting for Obama.
July 2, 2008
4:57 a.m.
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CP writes:
Kick this B out of the US.
July 2, 2008
5:18 a.m.
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mmmark217 writes:
Let me say this. I am more Liberal than not. Having said that, I find this action entirely offensive. Not because the singer was black, But because IT WASN'T THE NATIONAL ANTHEM. I happen to support the Freedom of Speech. But she was not there to give a speech, she was there to sing Our National Anthem. Of which, there is only ONE last time I checked. When the Star Spangle Banner was adopted or whether or not it's a british drinking tune is irrelevant to me. The Fact That It Is OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM is the Key Point Here. Had she been asked to "Interpret" the National Anthem, then she should've been given a chance to. BUT SHE WAS HIRED TO SING THE NATIONS NATIONAL ANTHEM, WHICH IS RIGHT NOW, THE STAR SPANGLED BANNER. Don't Pay Her Hickenlooper. She didn't perform what she was ASKED to perform.
July 2, 2008
5:19 a.m.
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LOUIE writes:
At the next gathering of Democrats, lets skip the American flag pins, and the national anthem of America, and play "My Sweet Irish Rose". My grandmother will tear up for sure! Mr. Hinkenlooper, your getting on my nerves, what's next, my firecrackers going to be outlawed by your Democratic Party on America's independance day?
July 2, 2008
5:26 a.m.
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mmmark217 writes:
Let me also say this. The last time I heard the National Anthem sung correctly, as it was written to be sung, was by Whitney Houston. She hit all the notes properly, and didn't add "Soul" to it. All these singers that are putting (sp?) "Soul" into the song, in my opinion just can't hit the notes properly. The "Lilt" they put into the song, just proves that they can't actually sing the song the way it was written.
July 2, 2008
5:32 a.m.
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youngman writes:
Actually the best version is the guy at the Avalanche games...Jake Schroder(sp)...he belts it out.....
I reccomend instead of paying her..buy her a one way ticket to her homeland that she loves so much...a "make a wish" thing
July 2, 2008
5:41 a.m.
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blacksho89 writes:
What I want is the contents of the alleged "Hate Mail".
The first sentence of the article references it; but after that, nothing is printed.
Daniel Chacon, I call you out. There was no hate mail, was there? You made it up.
Let's see the "hate mail", Daniel.
July 2, 2008
5:43 a.m.
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mmmark217 writes:
One more thing, before I go. If you want a good interpretation or rendition of "The Star Spangled Banner" you should hear the song as "interpreted" by Jimi Hendrix at Woodstock 1968. Jimi jazzed the song up a bit, but his "interpretation" of the song is one of the most beautiful "interpretations" I've ever heard, at least on guitar anyway. Joe Satriani, another guitar virtuoso has done the "Star Spangled Banner" as well, but doesn't quite capture it the way Jimi did.
July 2, 2008
6:04 a.m.
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July 2, 2008
6:11 a.m.
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ML writes:
I would tell her if she doesn't like it here in America, well, don't let the door hit you in the a$$ on your way out!
July 2, 2008
6:24 a.m.
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July 2, 2008
6:26 a.m.
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treecat writes:
Denver has Sold the pocket books of their future generations.
For what.......!
July 2, 2008
6:30 a.m.
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JackieMC writes:
Divide and conquer. It's working.
July 2, 2008
6:31 a.m.
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commoncents writes:
The worse things get maybe people will get back to what really matters. If singing the national anthem was such a magical, powerful thing that this event has made it out to be this country would be in much better shape financially, healthier, smarter, and with less people desperate to lash out at anyone who isn't just like them. It is a song that has been chopped up by many, and people in attendance at the events usually don't know the proper behavior to be observed during its playing/singing. Much like the idiots that improperly display the flag.
Events like this just allow more racists and bigots to feel justified in outing themselves to the world. Which is ultimately a good thing since you should know who is really worth listening to in the first place. Back to work........please join me slackers
July 2, 2008
6:32 a.m.
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cmgdenver writes:
Why has this become a race issue? It was a song - the wrong song but a song. Black Americans homeland is America - America was built on the backs of blacks. Why is it wrong to have a song that respresents' American freedom. Why was Obama even brought up in this discussion? I am black and like the National Anthem and the Black National Anthem. Both songs speak to our great country.
Seems like Denver is not as progressive as we thought. Do the right thing, focus on important issues.
If you are not racist quit writing hurtful things.
July 2, 2008
6:39 a.m.
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youngman writes:
If you are not RACIST...sing the ONLY National Anthem of the United States of America.....she is the racist
July 2, 2008
6:40 a.m.
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fluxtube writes:
It was a song - the wrong song but a song.
So singing Dixie would have been OK?
July 2, 2008
6:46 a.m.
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Alive writes:
Hick is spineless. Not even the courage to stand up for our national anthem. All of them were spineless for letting this slide. Where are the true leaders?
July 2, 2008
6:55 a.m.
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July 2, 2008
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Scott writes:
mmmark217:
Thank you so much for reminding me of Miss Houston's rendition of the Star Spangled Banner. YES! The lady sang it perfectly. I still remember her performance.
Thanks again,
Scott
July 2, 2008
7:10 a.m.
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July 2, 2008
7:13 a.m.
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July 2, 2008
7:15 a.m.
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FlyfishDude52 writes:
It appears that this little act, with the above article, has certainly polarized the blogging community!!!
In past times this would have been viewed as traitorous. I respect her opinion, as I do most people, but she crossed the proverbial line. If she were in the nation called the Black United States the anthem would have been appropriate, but I've never heard of that place.
July 2, 2008
7:49 a.m.
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Fisherman writes:
Rene seems to be part of the Rev. Wright Black Liberation Theology, Afro-centric, black separatist Farakan, "For the first time in my life..." Michelle O., flag pin removing Barrack, race baiting Jackson and Sharpton, reparations, "you owe me" crowd. Rene, for your own selfish reasons you have just taken this country back two more steps.
July 2, 2008
7:53 a.m.
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Davek80501 writes:
This just shows that she untrustworthy,deceitful,racist and she has proved that her word is worth nothing. Do you think she really cares? I don't think she does. This just shows everyone what kind of person she really is. I will make sure that any company that employs her I will never spend a penny at. Sorry Shadow Theater Company you have lost a customer if she is in the show.
July 2, 2008
7:55 a.m.
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Arja_A writes:
I see a lot of people here asking why race is being brought up in these posts. In my opinion, Ms. Marie brought race into this issue by singing a song knows as the "Black" National Anthem, instead of singing what she hired to sing.
I've read the words to the Black National Anthem, and I think it is a beautiful song. It's still not America's National Anthem.
People should consider themselves Americans FIRST and Black/White/Hispanic SECOND.
July 2, 2008
7:59 a.m.
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SockRayBlue writes:
And so the separation of a once great country begins in earnest. Hispanic west coast. Puerto Rican east coast. African mid-west. White center. Random tribes scattered within. I feel like Rip Van Winkle after he woke up. What the hell happened?
July 2, 2008
7:59 a.m.
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SanctuaryCity writes:
Next year, sanctuary city is having a mariachi band
July 2, 2008
8:03 a.m.
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DakotaBronco writes:
Wow, the true big0ts in Colo. come out in unison. She is not a racist for singin the Black National Anthem. She is doing something she feels strongly about, which is her God and Constitional right.
July 2, 2008
8:05 a.m.
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samanthacat0 writes:
This was an act of gross disrespect to our country and to our men and women in arms, regardless of color.
This harmed the cause of racial harmony just as much as the Hispanic protestors who waved the Mexican flag and shouted about "reconquesta"!
Shame on her and shame on Hick for not stopping it as it happened.
July 2, 2008
8:05 a.m.
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gem writes:
Frankly, as a black social conservative I am appalled. Every black person knows that song is strictly reserved for black occasions where it can get the reverence it deserves and is not for the entertainment of others. Half of you didnt even know there was a black national anthem and now look. Next thing you know everyone will be singing it and it will go the way of jazz and the blues. But don't yew all worry your pretty lil heads. A copy of "What Every Colored Person Should Know"