Boulder: Impeach Bush?
By Ryan Morgan, Daily Camera
Tuesday, February 12, 2008
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Boulder's elected leaders are expected to decide next week whether to draft and vote on a resolution calling for the impeachment of President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.
For the past few weeks, activists have been showing up at Boulder City Council meetings, carrying signs, handing out "impeach" pins and asking City Council members to take up such a resolution. Similar measures have passed in cities across the country, including Detroit and Telluride.
Liz Robinson, one of the organizers of the effort, said people hoping to see impeachment proceedings have given congressional Democrats — who won a majority in the fall of 2006 — plenty of time to act.
But since they haven't, she said, locally elected officials should take up the slack.
"Whether or not it's the city's business directly, like potholes, I feel this affects all of us," she said. "We're the ones who are paying the taxes to support this administration's depredations, especially the war."
Impeachment proceedings would be worth doing even if they only put the last few months of Bush's eight years in office at risk, Robinson said.
"We need to send a message that this all matters to us, whether it's last-minute or not," she said.
The group appears to have some support among the City Council, although it's not clear if it has the five votes it would take to get a resolution drafted and subsequently debated.
City Councilman Macon Cowles wrote in a memo to his colleagues that he'll likely make a motion at the Feb. 19 meeting asking that a resolution be drafted.
"I believe that these citizens deserve a hearing," Cowles wrote to the council.
It wouldn't be the first time the City Council has weighed in on matters far outside the city's physical boundaries. In 2006, the council approved a resolution calling for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, and in 2003, the council passed a resolution opposing the invasion.
Deputy Mayor Crystal Gray, who helped draft the 2006 resolution, said Boulder has a tradition of debating big-picture issues.
"I'm a believer that the council should be responsive at the level of local government to issues that the residents raise, just like the Iraq war resolution," she said.
But City Councilman Ken Wilson said he's not on board. During a recent retreat, the City Council agreed to priorities ranging from fixing structural problems in the budget to doing better land-use planning.
That doesn't leave much time for issues over which the city doesn't have direct jurisdiction, he said.
"We did not identify national issues as a priority for work by council and staff. We are already seeing scheduling problems trying to address our priorities and the immediate needs of the city," he said. "Hours spent discussing national issues will reduce the amount of time we can spend on city issues."
Comments
Posted by tunaman65 on February 12, 2008 at 6:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
One more reason not to send my kids to CU.
Posted by rattlesnake on February 12, 2008 at 6:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The smart the stupid and then Boulder Council. To bad!!!!
Posted by kevin3 on February 12, 2008 at 6:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Too little too late, why waste the time, energy and money.
Posted by kevin3 on February 12, 2008 at 6:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It would be more feasible to bring charges to the dynamic duo of war crimes and extortion.
Posted by coloradoan on February 12, 2008 at 6:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Rising crime, growing traffic congestion, and overall, a diminishing quality of life in Boulder. Crimes of rape and assault go unsolved. High paying jobs are going away. And Instead of focusing on Boulder issues, the council wastes time and money on meaningless gestures. To what point? So they can encourage even more companies to leave Boulder?
Posted by Firefox on February 12, 2008 at 6:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The Republic of Boulder what will be next seceding from the union?
Posted by Michael on February 12, 2008 at 7:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"Hours spent discussing national issues will reduce the amount of time we can spend on city issues." - Boulder City Councilman Ken Wilson
It would appear that there is at least one sane and rational person in Boulder that actually knows what the role of a City Council is. He must have the patience of a saint to be able to withstand the onslaught of left-wing zealots that he has to deal with.
Posted by Classof80 on February 12, 2008 at 7:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Only in the Republic of Boulder would a bunch of over educated people waste time and Government money for stupid sh*t. And we can only hope that they suceed from the union. Maybe a petition drive should be started to recall the council ????
Posted by greenstew on February 12, 2008 at 7:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
If there were enough evidence to impeach Bush, the democrats would have already done it. You people have been drinkin the cool aid too long. The old Democrat saying is " If we say it long enough, they will believe it" How stupid people can be amazes me.
Posted by DougfromOklahoma on February 12, 2008 at 7:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It is unacceptable that people are fixating on irrelevant topics when the Chinese are taking over our country and devistating our economy. George Bush, Bill Clinton and George W Bush all extended Most Favoured Nation Tading status to China. It is time to elect a president that will not.
http://www.freedomsringmall.com
Posted by Getaclue on February 12, 2008 at 7:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This is what liberal inbreeding does to society.
Posted by rkwilson777 on February 12, 2008 at 7:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Interestingly, the article never explains WHY they think the impeachment should take place. Not to mention the fact that the entire episode is a total waste of time and money. Liberals are almost funny. So shallow and transparent. Here they are, wasting time and energy on crap like this, all the while complaining that Republicans don't do enough to help the underprivileged...Uhhhh, how 'bout channeling all that energy and money into actually doinG something to HELP?
Posted by Scooter on February 12, 2008 at 7:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
When you geniuses are done with this I think it would be appropriate to focus your energies on wiping out organized crime in Southeast Asia.
Keep up the great work!
Posted by Michael on February 12, 2008 at 7:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)
God, lcdrjjxant is a broken record or a parrot. Every post he makes is the same BS.
Posted by LazyR on February 12, 2008 at 7:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm so sorry the council has nothing to do. I agree with Coloradoan. These people are ridiculous and need to focus on what they can change.
Posted by Scooter on February 12, 2008 at 7:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The more I think about this the more it seems like this matter might be more appropriately handled by the Boulder school board.
Keep up the great work!
Posted by Gump69 on February 12, 2008 at 7:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I assume the voters of Boulder plan to support Hussein Obama as well.
Posted by deverill on February 12, 2008 at 7:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Forget organized crime in Southeast Asia, Scooter. Let the Boulder city council concentrate on crime, organized and otherwise, in Boulder instead of trying to be bigshots in national events.
Everyone has a part, but the city council of Boulder's part is a very small part on the grand scale.
Posted by Spencer on February 12, 2008 at 7:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
No fan of Bush, but this is pointless
Posted by Jacque_Bauer on February 12, 2008 at 7:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Bolder Council: Hey everybody!! Look at us - we're brain dead, self-important idiots!!!!
Posted by angry on February 12, 2008 at 7:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
2 murders
35 rapes
29 robberies
164 aggravated assaults
487 burglaries
2,300+ larcenies
157 stolen cars
72 cases of arson
453 assaults
76 forgeries
336 cases of fraud
1,088 acts of vandalism
95 sex assaults
1,100+ DUI arrests
And the council is worried about impeaching Bush and Cheney?
If I lived in Boulder, I’d kill myself and then move.
Posted by eefloyd on February 12, 2008 at 7:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Ah, the wacko leftists! Bush and Cheney aren't running again this time. They kicked your butts twice, get over it. And, we haven't been attacked since 9/11. Or do you leftists remember that day? If Clinton had done anything except bomb asprin factories, we wouldn't have had to go to war. That's another reason not to put another Clinton in the White House! Have fun with that!
Posted by navy65 on February 12, 2008 at 7:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Bouler's city council should come down fron their
ROCKEY MOUNTAIN HIGH!!!!!!
Posted by Darrell7887 on February 12, 2008 at 7:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The people of Boulder must be real idiots. Why do you think they have not been impeached already??? NO EVIDENCE!!! Only lies that have spewed from the wacko left wing blog sites from Bush haters.
The left is so full of hate, they don't even realize this is a federal matter and they have no juristiction!!! What, the country failed to do it, so Boulder will take over this task!!! PLEASE, you guys have apparently over estimated your level of importance!
Just as I did to Vermont, I will do no business in Boulder. You need to have at least enough brain cells to keep your heart pumping to do business with me!
Posted by JimmyBobby on February 12, 2008 at 7:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
You crack me up lcdrjjxant. I understand your hatred and frustration, but the only person that still believes Bush is a deserter besides you is Dan Rather. Your blind hatred for the POTUS make you say things that show us what a pathetic little existence you live. Please come up with new arguments if you are going to post, so that we don't have to read your drivel in here.
Posted by breasor on February 12, 2008 at 7:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Sometimes I think Boulder tries to compete with places like "Beserkeley" California when to being the most despicable cities in the country. I guess this gets them off the hook for not doing what they are suppose to. Namely fixing problems in the city itself. Crime, a floundering economy and a new, lame, poorly designed mall they were the masterminds in constructing that is failing miserably are all issues way too difficult for them to face. So why not do what they do best, deny and deflect. Pretend they are doing something by voting to impeach a President whose term is up in 11 months anyway. By doing nothing, they actually are under the delusion they doing something.
Posted by bddawg on February 12, 2008 at 7:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Cuckoo, Cuckoo, Cuckoo, Cuckoo, Cuckoo.
Next they will stop global warming by holding their breath in.
Cuckoo, Cuckoo, Cuckoo, Cuckoo, Cuckoo
Posted by mytwosense on February 12, 2008 at 7:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The Coloradoan says: "Rising crime, growing traffic congestion, and overall, a diminishing quality of life in Boulder. Crimes of rape and assault go unsolved. High paying jobs are going away. And Instead of focusing on Boulder issues, the council wastes time and money on meaningless gestures."
Because as more cities pass this measure, the more meaningful it becomes. Especially cities that are disparate on so many levels.
Coloradoan also said: "To what point? So they can encourage even more companies to leave Boulder?"
Attracting business is not the end all and be all of every city. Some cities would prefer a more localized economy, rather than depend on companies who decide to live there because of the tax advantages - and thus, have no real loyalty to that city and will have no problem picking up stakes and leaving if they get a higher bid one day.
Posted by bddawg on February 12, 2008 at 7:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Look at the upside. At least Boulder might get some jokes made about them on late night TV. Bad publicity is still publicity.
Posted by JYP3500 on February 12, 2008 at 7:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Another example in a long list of accomplishments for Boulder; JonBenet Ramsey, Ward Churchhill, Boulder High School, Porcelain Penises, and now impeachment for the President & Vice President. Unbelievable & again highly embarrasing for Colorado!
Posted by Oh_Wise_One on February 12, 2008 at 7:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
lcdrjjxant- you are the dumbest Negro that I have ever seen posting online. Get an education and get over your white hate.
Posted by NoDonkey on February 12, 2008 at 7:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
If the council wastes a moment of time on this, THEY should be impeached.
Just because a bunch of geriatric hippies ask the council to do something stupid and pointless, doesn't mean the council needs to act.
Posted by SASQUATCH on February 12, 2008 at 7:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The "recreational" brain-fry damage of the 1960s continues to take a heavy toll. No wonder why Paul Campos fits right into Nurse Ratchet's Cuckoo's Nest.
Posted by johndoe64 on February 12, 2008 at 7:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
i gotta tell you, leave it to a local government to RUIN all the hard work a community has done. This is a group of people that has managed to make their town one of the BEST places in the country to live (Mens Journal). Now you have a town council that can't resist passing a non-binding, inconsequential resolution to inject themselves into an already tired argument on a moot point. Congrats Boulder city council....you are the ones that should be impeached.
Posted by GWM on February 12, 2008 at 7:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
JimmyBobby, give up on lcdrjjxant. It is obvious his elevator does not go to the top floors. He never responds a second time. I just pass him over every time he posts. He is a broken, scratchy record.
Posted by DDS on February 12, 2008 at 7:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)
As a CU grad, and a prior Colorado native, I am totally embarrassed as to what Boulder has become. I can't believe you can further waste tax payer dollar for such frivolous nonsense.
Posted by tulsamedic on February 12, 2008 at 7:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)
WOW, I think there is a virus of lunacy spreading in college towns, First The people's republic of Berkeley against the USMC, Now Boulder's dabbeling as the authority to impeech a sittng President and Vice-President.
I bet is was a vast right wing conspiracy to make all college towns starting with the letter "B" to look like ididots?
Get a Life Boulder, and take care of your own town first!
Posted by kathyM on February 12, 2008 at 7:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Boulder's trying to keep up with Berkley.
Posted by Oh_Wise_One on February 12, 2008 at 7:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
and if the Troll wants to ask about military service (lcdrjjxant), when are we going to see John Kerry's military records??? He promised to release them to the public but only has to the Boston Globe who buried the info. What is John "wants to be President" Kerry hiding? At least Dubya's record is out there to distort.
Posted by BayouBengal on February 12, 2008 at 7:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Boulder Council members are elected to run their city, not to consider national issues. The citizens of Boulder should demand that the local District Attorney indict the member's of the council for malfeasance in office for misusing the public's time and money to consider a resolution that falls outside of their legal authority.
Posted by denverinfidel on February 12, 2008 at 7:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Nothing out of Boulder suprises me anymore. Proving once again they sit right between the mountains and reality.
They need to go back to a civics class and learn what a city council is designed to do. National electoral politics is not part of it. They should also go back to the constitution. Because you disagree with someone politically does not equal cause for impeachment.
More rich, white liberals preaching to the world from their little rich, white utopia. This is what happens when you let the inmates run the asylum.
Posted by Gene on February 12, 2008 at 8:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Typical stuck-in-the-past leftist stuff. The only hope is zero-experience Hillary, or less-than-zero-experience Obama. Well, they are talking about the presidency, not Boulder city services.
Posted by wdgood on February 12, 2008 at 8:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
What a bunch of idiots. I'm considering running for a school board position where I live, but elected officials in Boulder are giving elected officials a bad name. I don't want to be considered a dumb arse like they are. I truly believe in the 5% rule, where those five percent are so nutty, they don't know what planet they are on. It must be like that with town councils. Boulder and Berkeley, CA councils don't know what planet they are on. I'd be embarrassed to be represented by these morons.
Posted by ham on February 12, 2008 at 8:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Boulder, you're a joke.
Posted by vudumom on February 12, 2008 at 8:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm hoping the out of control satellite that is falling to Earth hits Boulder.Then maybe Colorado can stop being the laughingstock of the nation.
Posted by scmoonpie on February 12, 2008 at 8:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Boulder gave us Mork so it is only fitting that aliens run the city council. I am not from Boulder and wonder whether they come to meetings with their suits on backwards. The fact is Bush HAS screwed up the last 4 years and rolled out the carpet for Clinton or Obama to win. Bye bye to the "conservative" Republican party. Bush has grown the government (minus the military) more than any president in the history of our country, including FDR. Criminal behavior? I think not. These opinions only come from the far left nut jobs who hate anything with an R after the name and want the government to be the big nanny. Where is Colin Powell and when you need him!
Posted by JL on February 12, 2008 at 8:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Poor people of Boulder...don't you realize you're supposed to ski on the snow and NOT snort it!
Posted by rationalthinker on February 12, 2008 at 8:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I totally agree with 'angry.' Look in the mirror, Boulder! You've had serious issues for some time, and they seem to be rooted in the community culture. This is not a healthy environment.
Posted by jaerbaer1 on February 12, 2008 at 8:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The People's Republic of Boulder is at it again! No wonder Boulder is the laughing stock of Colorado. There are important things that should be addressed by the city council, things over which they have control. How about addressing the homeless problem, gangs, teen pregnancy, drugs, trash on the streets, traffic congestion, business development, public safety, or even (oops, that would make sense) anything over which they have control? It would seem that people with high educations would learn to think instead of just "feel". Why not investigate the true facts, then make an informed decision about something, and then and only then take action where you can make a difference, a real difference. Wake up Boulder!
Posted by Gene on February 12, 2008 at 8:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
. . . .yeah, Colin Powell! See what I mean.
Posted by Jasin on February 12, 2008 at 8:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Good post "angry". Where are the priorities? This sounds more like therapy for the malcontents than anything productive.
Posted by rdamurphy on February 12, 2008 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Wow, talk about Bush Derangement Syndrome! Why doesn't the Boulder City Council pass a law against terrorism, that way we'll all be safe from another 9/11?
Boulder, CO: 28 square miles surrounded by reality!
Posted by Nette on February 12, 2008 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
How embarrassing for the sane people in Boulder. It's painful to watch a few idiots create such a stir. If the loonies would spend this much effort cleaning up their own city's problems, then you might have a newsworthy story.
Posted by rickg19611 on February 12, 2008 at 8:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
No wonder Boulder continues to be the laughingstock of the country.
Posted by gmm777 on February 12, 2008 at 8:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I wonder if they have ever impeached anyone else before this? I wonder where these people come from? I suppose that they have all the best interests of Boulder and its population in mind as they move forward. Imagine, elected to local public office and impeaching the President and Vice President of the entire United States. Feel the power!
Posted by zenman on February 12, 2008 at 8:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Go For it! It's way overdue and would send a great message to the world. They would finally know that not all American's are idiot's.
Posted by devan95 on February 12, 2008 at 8:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Oh wow! - Detroit, Telluride and Boulder. Now there's a real wave! Can't wait til another few years when all these 60's wacko hippies will die off and we can get back to normal. These hypocrits didn't say a word about impeaching the Clinton's when they tortured, gased and burned innocent men, women and children at Waco in 1993. This was the most brutal, heinous violation of civil, human and Constitutional rights in this nation's history. Democrats did this - check it out & be proud of yourselves, Boulder:
http://www.wizardsofaz.com/waco/waco2...
and Elian too:
http://www.therealcuba.com/elian_gonz...
Posted by tulsamedic on February 12, 2008 at 8:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
excellent point devan95!
Posted by Firedewd on February 12, 2008 at 8:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Boulder is full of Boulderoids. Kind of like hemaroids, but a bigger pain the the a$$.
Posted by SCAZMarketing on February 12, 2008 at 8:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Isn't this a little too late? And why isn't Boulder in conjuction with the Vermont impeachment proceedings? It would be important for a strong, united campaign to start these proceedings, but really...what good is going to do February, 2008? The White House has already taken action on this lame duck president:
http://www.socoolaz.com/article.cfm?a...
Posted by Longshanks on February 12, 2008 at 8:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
In other similarly important news, my family will decide at dinner this evening whether to draft and vote on a resolution to switch from two-ply toilet paper to quilted.
We will keep you posted...
Posted by texan1953 on February 12, 2008 at 8:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Once again the lib-loons show the difference between being educated and having wisdom. These loons' 15 minutes are up. Go blow some weed and get that Rocky Mountain High on.
Posted by ShepDog on February 12, 2008 at 8:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Boulder is like Colorado's mentally-challenged little brother. Once in a while he emits a strange noise, everyone looks, then goes back to what they were doing.
Posted by nibbles on February 12, 2008 at 8:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)
As a resident of Fort Collins, CO, I'd like to apologize to the nation for our retarded cousin to the south
Posted by bddawg on February 12, 2008 at 8:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The sad part is that the Boulder Council is listening and following the 5% demands. They are norWhen will the American public go back to majority rule with minority restraint? In the 60's we moved to minority rule with majority passivism and are mainly still there.
Posted by EvanRavitz on February 12, 2008 at 9:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This shows how powerless we are, in a country where supposedly "the people are sovereign. The huge majority around here want us out of Iraq and the prez/VP impeached, and some have spent months begging "our" representative Udall to do the right thing. No dice. So they beg Council to beg Udall, etc.
When you're totally exhausted begging, you can vote to ratify the National (ballot) Initiative project led by Sen. Mike Gravel at http://Vote.org THEN we can just vote to end torture, wars of aggression, domestic spying, etc.
Until then, you can kiss your country and planet goodbye.
Posted by Davoh on February 12, 2008 at 9:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Perhaps these mentally challenged morons in Boulder should consider why we have 2 candidates running for the Democrat Nomination for President that have absolutely no qualifications to be anywhere near the Oval Office. None. Maybe they could enumerate some of the qualifications that Obama and Mrs. Clinton have and compare those to a lifetime of achievement for McCain, Huckabee(running a state for 10 yrs), or President Bush (who had the tough job of following an occupant of the Oval Office that couldn't keep his hands off of someone's 20 year old daughter while at work in the Oval Office) or for that matter a decent, dedicated public servant like Vice President Cheney.
Posted by Rhett on February 12, 2008 at 9:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Typical Boulder
Posted by Scott on February 12, 2008 at 9:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The drugged out rejects from the 60's, err Boulderites, have a long way to go before they catch up with their big brothers in Beserkley: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,3...
Scott
Posted by 02Z06 on February 12, 2008 at 9:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Looking at the above crime statistics I believe they should spend their time on them rather than living in dream land.
Thank god for Roe v. Wade ... at least an additional 60 million liberal have been aborted.
Posted by bigjking69 on February 12, 2008 at 9:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
So the Socialist Republic of Boulder is focusing their attention on something they have no power in enforcing. May I remind them that they are the "CITY COUNCIL" their job is to enact laws concerning the CITY!!! Not federal law. I think they are feeling a little inadequate. If I were a tax payer in Boulder I would be furious!
Posted by Squatchster on February 12, 2008 at 9:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Looks like the town of Boulder has been taken over by a bunch of Californicaters....
SQ
Posted by bddawg on February 12, 2008 at 9:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)
We need a website devoted to jokes about Boulder. Anyone want to start one?
The problems with forest fires in Boulder, is everyone sees the smoke and runs up to inhale it.
Posted by ToeNee on February 12, 2008 at 9:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Boulder Colorado, is our Berkeley California. . . . We should give them cool-aid and tinfoil to play with and hope they go silent when another commit like Hailbop returns?
Posted by Dinty on February 12, 2008 at 9:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Great! Now you have joined the kook ranks of Vermont and Berkeley. The whole nation is laughing at you. (Well, at least the rational folks.) You continue to be an embarrassment to the State of Colorado.
Posted by dbarker2 on February 12, 2008 at 9:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Wow, these people are an embarrassment to the state of Colorado. I love my state, but this is ridiculous. I would like to see how any of them would have run the country after being attacked by terrorists. Bush has done the best that he has been able to. Has he made mistakes? Of course! But I would hate to think about where we would be with a democratic president. Give me a break liberal scum
Posted by Rhonda on February 12, 2008 at 9:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Now that the Democratic congress is investigating baseball, with NFL investigation to follow, it's appropriate for CO liberals to investigate/impeach President Bush. All I'm watinig for is to see what Madona has to say on the subject. BDS is rampant.
Posted by Spencer on February 12, 2008 at 9:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)
hey nibbles, the Fart wishes it was Boulder
Posted by ralph_furley on February 12, 2008 at 9:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
MODERN LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER!
Rational thought can not come about individuals or a group of people when demogoguery of Leftist leaders is present.
Pandering to those whom would rather have handouts and "free" or low cost programs instead of acquire credentials on their own is EVIL in itself. This does not promote individual freedoms.
I wish the Left would quit promoting a socialist/welfare state,
this only leads to a collapse like the U.S.S.R. in the 80's.
I don't want to be standing in lines for bread and milk for 8 hours like they did back then.
Posted by Charles_B on February 12, 2008 at 9:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
greenstew said:
"If there were enough evidence to impeach Bush, the democrats would have already done it."
Yeah, and...
If there were enough evidence, the jury would've convicted O.J.
Posted by konev on February 12, 2008 at 9:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Another fine example of our public education system.
When a tiny group of people try to exert their influence through a city council when if they ever had civics in high school (did they even graduate?) they would know that what a city council does has absolutely no effect at government at the federal level.
Maybe this group should be offered a free GED course.
Posted by DesertStormVet on February 12, 2008 at 9:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Sounds like the Rocky's version of the People's Republic of Berkeley. Is it legal for Boulder to secede from the Union and join with their comrades in Berkeley, Venezuela, and Cuba (minus those that do not want anything to do with the leftys)?
As others have posted earlier, there are more important subjects and problems Boulder needs to address. This is simply a moonbatty joke of an idea and a waste of Colorado's taxpayer money.
Posted by titancain on February 12, 2008 at 9:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Like when the Colorado Legislature voted to honor the Boy Scouts.
Posted by denverinfidel on February 12, 2008 at 9:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Given both dubya's and congress' approval ratings, I'd say the huge majority "around here" hates them all.
The people recently voted in the democrats who swept congress. Then those starry-eyed socialists promptly ran in and did......nothing. Thats right. Absolutely nothing. They have no spine, and they have no dignity. They picked a fight they realized they could not win. Hence, no withdrawl and no impeachment.
EvanRavitz - Don't ever assume that failed genetic waste from the 60's and limousine liberals in boulder, vermont, berkley or any other moonbat center actually speak for the country. Sen. Gravel is the textbook example of a "useful idiot". Impeachment doesn't exist for loonies to win elections they can't win otherwise.
Although it is useful in stopping sexual predators from Arkansas who like to bang little girls in the white house.
Posted by EXColoradoan on February 12, 2008 at 9:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I am convinced that these 1960s hippies are the Western version of the Middle Eastern Imams. The Imams have invaded the mosques in the Middle East and are the ones who are creating the radical elements in the Muslim faith. These 60s hippie freaks are invading the college campuses and are creating a new generation of thoughtless radical liberals.
Glad I got out of Boulder. Sad for Colorado as a whole as it was a great place to grow up and live, but their stupidity is astounding!
Posted by allseasonsfan on February 12, 2008 at 9:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
WOW! The power of free speech. For some of you people, just because you have doesn't mean you have to use it! Many times it is not the message but who sends it. Obviously the people of Colorado think Boulder is messed up, hence any message they send could be a negative.
Impeachment! The reason libs want Bush impeached is they say he lied about WMD intelligence. Where are your facts! Yes I said facts! Something that has eluded the left for decades, or over a century? Here are some facts:
1. No terrorist act on US soil since 9/11.
2. Al-Qaeda takes responsiblity for 9/11, nope sorry, not a govt
conspiricy.
3. US forces are fighting and defeating Al-Qaeda in Afganistan and
Iraq.
4. Both Shiites and Sunnis have banded together in Iraq to help
defeat Al-Qaeda because they have killed so many in Iraq.
If you would stop being blinded by hate of Republicans you can see some of this truth. Also, check out political parties history.
Start with freeing the slaves, who was that, oh yeah a Abraham Lincoln, a Republican. Many of your liberal papers wanted him impeached as well. And said the Gettysburg Address was a load of horse crap.
Posted by janderson on February 12, 2008 at 9:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It only goes to prove that liberalism is truly a mental disease.
Posted by ToeNee on February 12, 2008 at 9:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Is this the same Boulder that holds the highest regards of DA Mary Lacy for apprehending the notorious John Mark Carr? Or the Boulder that proudly hung ceramic penises in clear view of children in their public library? The same Boulder that lets it's retired city officials steel land from it's hard working citizens? So why is this boneheaded idea making news?
Posted by cwood02 on February 12, 2008 at 9:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It just makes sense that this city would waste taxpayers money on things that they can't control. Next lets reopen the vote in Fl.of 04 and Ohio in 2000. But first maybe they can look into the 'roids' in baseball or spend the next few months on spygate like the big boys in Washington are doing.
Posted by geogolfx on February 12, 2008 at 9:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Good Lord. Hey, Lazy Hippies. How about doing the job you are supposed to do. You Narcissistic 60's Burnouts actually think you are important beyond your little universe.
You Are Not.
Do Your job and make sure the Trash is picked up on time and Roads are paved. Otherwise STFU, freaks.
Posted by Littledoc on February 12, 2008 at 9:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Once again Boulder moves their local entertainment from Pearl Street to the world. Bravo!
Posted by Davek80501 on February 12, 2008 at 9:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Liz Robinson and the other activists in her group should show us all that they truly believe in what they are doing, and the next time President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney come to Colorado they need to grab them and make a citizens arrest and have the local police through them in jail. If she and her group are not willing to do that then they are just blowing smoke and in my opinion are trying to make themselves seem more important than they really are. Liz Robinson and the other activists need to let the Boulder city council deal with the problems they were elected to deal with.
Liz, if you do decide to try and arrest President Bush or Vice President Dick Cheney, Please let me know I want be there to video tape it. By the way Liz, the guys with the President and Vice President are not going to make it easy for you to arrest them and I'll bet they might have guns.
"Impeachment proceedings would be worth doing even if they only put the last few months of Bush's eight years in office at risk," Robinson said. Come on Liz show us all just how deep your convictions are.
But if you do, I think you'll be the one putting a few months to a few years at risk.
Posted by allseasonsfan on February 12, 2008 at 9:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey Rhonda, the reason the feds are involved in the MLB and NFL is they are given special exemption for non compete rules within business. In order to keep those exemptions professional sports agrees to certain mandates by the government. Please, if your going to post a blog, you have the internet, use it to back up your claims.
Posted by rg on February 12, 2008 at 9:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
How can one man do so much evil? Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Adi Amin and now comes Bush: His reign has brought death to thousands of Christians in Iraq who have seen their churches vandalized and stand deserted; 4000 American soldiers have been killed with thousands wounded; tens of thousands of Iraqis have been killed; millions of Iraqis have been displaced, and the surge is not working because in excess of 100 Iraqis have been killed, Americans continue to die, and the year has just begun. Richard Grimes, Deicide who deplores the death of Christians though seeks to slay their god. Deicide is the sword of time that slays all gods without exception. http://www.geocities.com/r22037/think...
Posted by joggle on February 12, 2008 at 9:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Wow, you guys are more combustible than gasoline! One, I repeat, one city councilman spoke in support of having a public debate on this issue and you all go bonkers. Another spoke against it. What the hell? There's not even a resolution being discussed yet and you guys act like Boulder has already voted to impeach Bush.
Back up, turn your brain on, and reread the article. If and when Boulder actually passes a resolution to impeach Bush, then by all means go bonkers. Although don't think it's only in Boulder that this would occur as some stated (and as the article notes other cities have already passed such resolutions).
Posted by Steph on February 12, 2008 at 9:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Instead of impeachment, W and Cheney should be waterboarded for all the damage they've done to this country. Anyone who supports these two piles of **** are in no way any kind of true patriot or American.
Posted by ericsmithdc on February 12, 2008 at 9:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
GO RAMMIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by janderson on February 12, 2008 at 10:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It appears Steph is infected with the same virus that the other wackos have.
Posted by mwitteb on February 12, 2008 at 10:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Go Boulder Go!
Now go after the Marines!!
Hopefully you hippy, communist, pinko's will lose
your federal funding too! Then you won't be able
to drive around in your flowered hippy bus spreading
your lefty ways. Smoke another bowl!!
Posted by johnnybgood862003 on February 12, 2008 at 10:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This is what you residents of Boulder deserve, you voted them in office.
Posted by lesliemcleod on February 12, 2008 at 10:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
im so glad i read this. we were going to telluride now were not. i hope the people of co rot you do not deserve to be a part of this great country and for water boarding how the dems in office in congress you peopel make me sick think god we have our 2 amendment to stop people like yall..grrr you make me sick you bunch of piss aints
Posted by jconder45 on February 12, 2008 at 10:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Right on, Steph.
Funny how the "conservatives" are all for local control and against "big federal government", but when a local community dares to express its opinion against *their* federal government, they go aplopleptic.
Posted by homeboy on February 12, 2008 at 10:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Have you noticed how so rabidly leftist the big public university towns are? Maybe if we weren't sending them hundreds of millions of tax dollars each year, to CU, they couldn't afford such crap.
Posted by Rhonda on February 12, 2008 at 10:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Allseasonfan: It's OK for the Democrats in congress to investigate baseball and NFL? After you and the Democrats in congress finish this monumental issue, crucial to our nation's survival, what next? Humidity or high tide?
Posted by Charles_B on February 12, 2008 at 10:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I've waded through this entire thread and found only ad hominems. Not a single argument defending Bush, just people screaming about how much they hate Boulder and "hippies".
Factoid: Boulder has the highest per-capita education level in the United States.
Posted by janderson on February 12, 2008 at 10:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Factoid: Boulder has the highest per-capita education level in the United States.
Education without morals just makes for a more clever devil.
Posted by ysroq on February 12, 2008 at 10:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Most of Colorado is fantastic. Just like anywhere, there are pockets of clueless idiots, but you can avoid Boulder and Telluride and still see some of the most incredible landscape; do some world-class skiing, camping and hiking; and meet normal folks who understand that our freedom and way of life are worth fighting for across this great state. Why folks in Boulder choose to support an extreme, symbolic action with their effort and dollars, which will never have any impact on the lives of ANYONE, as opposed to addressing real problems in their own city is beyond me. But I am certain it is beyond 99% of Coloradoans and the general population as well.
Part of what makes this country great is the fact that the crazies can stand up and say what ever they want without being jailed or shot. It is surprising to me that people, like our friends in Boulder, don't see the irony in the fact that if we were to stop defending our country, as they would like, we would quickly find ourselves under a regime that would not let them stand up and challenge our leaders, much less listen to popular music, educate our daughters, etc.
Yeah, it is embarrassing to have a whole city of lunatics just down the road, but it is also pretty entertaining that they think anyone cares if they waste their time on this. Plus, the rest of this state just rocks.
Posted by RandolphKnipp on February 12, 2008 at 10:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
When the heart is filled with hate, the mind has no room for reason.
Posted by DesertStormVet on February 12, 2008 at 10:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"Factoid: Boulder has the highest per-capita education level in the United States."
Book-smart doesn't mean street-smart nor presence of any common sense.
Try again.
Posted by SteveC7 on February 12, 2008 at 10:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Why is it that every time I read a quote from Deputy Mayor Crystal Gray, I can’t help imagining it being said with the voice of Aunt Bee ……………?
Posted by Charles_B on February 12, 2008 at 10:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
janderson said:
"Education without morals just makes for a more clever devil."
Education makes you much more likely to dismiss irrational ideas and childish superstitions like the "devil".
What exactly is immoral about discussing whether Bush should be impeached?
Posted by fortheloveof on February 12, 2008 at 10:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Why spend money at Comedy Works when you can attend Boulder City Council meetings for free.
(Unless Boulder has banned "laughter", then don't go because you will be arrested, unless you are a Marxist or believe animals and trees are superior to mankind or think global warming is caused by man, if your are one of those then you can run for public office in Boulder or become a college professor at CU.)
Posted by Charles_B on February 12, 2008 at 10:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
DesertStormVet:
"Book-smart doesn't mean street-smart nor presence of any common sense.
Try again."
What is "street-smart" or "common-sensible" about not wanting to hold our leaders accountable for their actions? Are you making a case against education? Or (more likely) are you simply unwilling to even consider that Bush has done anything wrong?
Posted by mgsorens on February 12, 2008 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Charles_B,
Your wading is over. I can explain the problem for you.
Imagine that I accuse Charles_B of a 'capital offense.' The next question you might ask is, "What offense am I accused of?"
That is where we are on the Impeachment of Bush and Chenny. They have not been accused of any crime. Congress has had over 300 investigations of the Bush Administration. Yet they have found no evidence of any crime at all.
Compare that to the Clinton Impeachment where Linda Tripp approached a special prosecutor with tape recorded evidence that the President had committed perjury in a sex abuse trial where he was the defendant.
Posted by ChapJim on February 12, 2008 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Back in the 1930s, the Indiana legislature almost passed a law changing the value of pi to 3.2.
Posted by Sean on February 12, 2008 at 10:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Insults, misspellings and even misspelled insults. Yep the Drudge Report as linked to this story.
Posted by Conservative123 on February 12, 2008 at 10:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Ward Churchill, an anti-Semitic, anti-American professor is considered a hero in Boulder while a president and vice president who free two nations from dictators and create democratic societies should be impeached?? One word...pathetic!
Posted by anderson on February 12, 2008 at 10:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The movement to impeachment seems like a waste of time, in that I don't think it will gain any widespread traction, and yes, it distracts from other, arguably more important, issues.
This story will give the pimps of talk radio and their idiot audiences something to talk about though. Guaranteed they are discussing it now. I believe, no, I'm certain, Boulder is on their list of villains.
Posted by griebeljohn on February 12, 2008 at 10:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
E-MAIL THIS CLOWN (cowles.bouldercouncil@gmail.com) and tell what you think
Posted by BuddyMooreforSenate on February 12, 2008 at 10:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Every voice should be raised in support of Impeachment. Do not forget that the US held Iraq in a starvation grip of total economic sanctions for twelve years after crushing them in the first Gulf war.
UNICEF reported 500,000 children starved to death due to the sanctions. No Fly Zones and the world's best electronic surveillance guaranteed that Hussein could not move without US knowledge. Every congressmen and senator knew that Iraq was a beaten and starving country that could not possibly threaten the US or anyone else. The Associated Press reported on 1-23-08 that Bush and his administration told 935 lies 2001-2003 to convince the nation that war was necessary. See
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/ to quote the article, "In short, the Bush administration led the nation to war on the basis of erroneous information that it methodically propagated and that culminated in military action against Iraq on March 19th 2003." Impeach Now!
Posted by fortheloveof on February 12, 2008 at 10:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Is it possible to impeach Boulder?
Posted by DADDYOF4PLUS1 on February 12, 2008 at 10:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
FOCUS ON YOUR JOB AND DO IT WELL. IT IS NOT YOUR JOB TO IMPEACH ANYONE ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL AND VERY SELF-INVOLVED AND SELFISH TO SPEND LOCAL TAXPAYER TIME AND MONEY ATTEMPTING TO MAKE A LAME POINT. IT'S SHAMEFUL.
Posted by ThomasOAnderson on February 12, 2008 at 10:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I offer my 2 minute YouTube in support of Boulder's effort, and for all those who have awakened from the seductive trance of a corrupted media:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHTyE_...
Posted by ralph_furley on February 12, 2008 at 10:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
rg, c'mon now!
Hitler killed 6 million was for his own version of christianity and admired Muslim military tactics.
Stalin killed reportedly anywhere from 3-60 million, he had no God and was a proprieter of Communism.
Pol Pot, this dictator killed between 1-2 million people he also is of the no God variety.
Idi Amin Dada supposedly killed 500 thousand, what is amazing is this Muslim dictators murder count can't be verified, the numbers may be more.
You forgot Hussein, he killed around 100-200 thousand...OF HIS OWN COUNTRYMEN! Another Muslim dictator.
Please don't forget that our soldiers of our military ARE VOLUNTEERS, they weren't forced to go as in Vietnam.
Dynamics in fighting terrorist cells are different, being that they have no home country and prey randomly on whomever, whenever.
These individuals would strap on a bomb to themselves and kill hundreds, and for what...their God? That is major BS! Quit supporting those type of people.
Posted by joggle on February 12, 2008 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
homeboy: Have you noticed how so rabidly leftist the big public university towns are?
Umm, Detroit is not exactly a big public university town. Many other small cities have passed similar resolutions, including many in Vermont and, of course, California. The only big university towns that have passed resolutions were all in California and Boulder hasn't done a single thing yet if you read the article.
And it's truely ironic that several posts like yours are calling the liberals rabid for wanting to impeach Bush. If there was a room with you guys in it there would be spittle flying everywhere if you act anything like how your posts would indicate.
Posted by geogolfx on February 12, 2008 at 10:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I, as a U.S. Citizen in a state other than Colorado - Wish to Impeach the Boulder, Co. City Counsel.
If these boobs think they have any business doing this. So do I.
This is a perfect example of America today. The whining sissy Hall Monitors from your high school days are in charge.
Grow up- Do some work without a coffee break.and get something done for YOUR COMMUNITY.
Act like adults, you dolts. Hey a headline from today- Maybe if they pay attention to this- they can help:
Associated Press
Vail, CO Colorado
February 12, 2008
BOULDER, Colorado - Boulder police are warning residents about a series of home burglaries reported over the past few weeks.
Posted by pwern on February 12, 2008 at 10:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Way to go, Boulder! Join Berkeley in showing the rest of the country just how radical and extremist you Democrats really are! You'll accomplish so much - not by successfully impeaching Bush/Cheney, but rather by convincing mainstream voters that Democrats can't be trusted with power and when they get it they only make a mockery of Patriotism and National defense.
If there is a better way to elect more Republicans, I'm not aware of it. Message to the mainstream media: PLASTER THESE IDIOTS ALL OVER THE EVENING NEWS!! Make everyone in America aware what being a Liberal really means - and they'll be back in the minority (where they belong) in no time.
Posted by joggle on February 12, 2008 at 10:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
mgsorens: "Yet they have found no evidence of any crime at all."
Do you honestly believe that, after the trial of Libby (and his conviction)? You must be wearing some of the rosiest colored glasses ever invented. A significant amount of evidence must be found before a trial can occur. Thanks to the convenient deletion of years worth of e-mails from various White House and Republican National Committee servers there just isn't enough evidence to carry out a trial at this time. Also, after Libby was pardoned why bring a trial at this point just for another person to be pardoned? Just wait until a Democrat is elected and then you will see some of Bush's administration tossed into jail without a pardon to get them out this time.
Posted by anderson on February 12, 2008 at 10:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
You obviously have not clue what liberal means, other than someone who opposes you.
Posted by mgsorens on February 12, 2008 at 10:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
If any evidence ever turns up that Bush or Chenney committed any crime, I think Congress should take appropriate action, up to an including impeachment.
By evidence I don't mean some preposterous interpretation that "Bush Lied" 935 times when he repeated what it said in the National Intelligence Estimate.
Posted by DesertStormVet on February 12, 2008 at 11:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Charles_B,
I have dealt with those in academia that want change, not just the change of a president but of our whole economic system to favor those that do not want to work, all at the expense of the taxpayer. Most of those that I've dealt with in Academia would rather have a higher marxist content in our economy. If you've read Karl Marx and are familiar with Communism, anything private ie private property, owning your own business, being part of a party other than the Communist Party, etc, is against the rules of Communism. The US is a country built on Free Enterprise and Private Ownership, which is contrary to the principals of Communism. For example: The People's Republic of China will be in a fix because of the influx of Capitalism and I predict a show-down between the Communist Party and those that want Free Enterprise.
As far as Bush is concerned, the demos were elected to find anything that was an impeachible offense and conduct impeachment proceeding accordingly but nothing has been found nor brought forth for impeachment. Has Bush made mistakes? He most certainly has but the conspiracy theories stating he is responsible for 9/11 are totally out of line and, from my experience, conspiracy theories run wild on college campuses, left or right.
Last: I am NOT against education but am against egg-head professors mixing their personal political views in college courses that nothing to do with politics which is why I will pursue any further college degrees on-line instead of at a brain-washing facility called a college campus. Young kids are impressionable and easily get mixed up with someone elses political view instead of their own.
From someone that votes independent & proudly served their country.
Posted by JerryO on February 12, 2008 at 11:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Maybe they should impeach themselves for letting sex predators into thier own kids schools to teach and advocate the use of drugs and unhindered sex as if this is educational. All the while they cry boo hoo, why are our kids getting pregnant and addicted to drugs. Oh yeah, its all Bush's fault. These freaks in Boulder are yet another example of socialist tendencies in weak and pathetic parents in Boulder. You, like other cuckoo's nest activists in the Liberal bastions of the country want to find excuses for your own freakish behavior. You waste your time with pointless resolutions that make you all a laughling stock around the world. Words cannot describe how stupid you make yourselves look.
Posted by dirkle on February 12, 2008 at 11:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
You can make all the "moonbat / flake" Boulder jokes you want, and I will enjoy and laugh out loud at most of them, as there is definitely some truth to it. Boulder can sometimes be a joke.
But history will bear out that Bush was the worst president - (not to mention one of the thickest & least articulate - an international embarassment) - in American history.
And though it is unlikely a conviction would be obtained (and if so a "pardon" would be swiftly granted), war criminal (Iraq) and abuse of power charges for both Cheney and Bush are not at all flaky in this case.
The charges simply would make a statement for history:
the Iraq war was based on cherry-picked / trumped-up charges & evidence;
then totally mismanaged;
a moral and financial disaster of epic proportions; resulting in thousands of Iraqis and Americans killed and wounded.
Impeachment and war criminal charges might be just enough to make the next president think twice before committing such a huge foreign policy blunder.
History itself doesn't seem to be enough:
Vietnam certainly didn't teach George W. S#t4brains anything, did it?
Posted by ralph_furley on February 12, 2008 at 11:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
MODERN LIBERALISM: Having such an open mind that all of the individuals common sense falls out.
We as a whole must not fail ourselves by thinking that 100% education is by itself better than common sense and morality accompanied by education.
Failure to recognize our infinite smallness and short time our lives pass in the universe, is pure arrogance.
Posted by mgsorens on February 12, 2008 at 11:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
joggle,
Of course I believe that! How can you believe that the Special Council in the Libby case had evidence of a crime that he refused to pursue?
Posted by gumbonazi on February 12, 2008 at 11:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Who's running this city council, Mork from Ork?
Posted by AngryWhiteMale on February 12, 2008 at 11:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This is what happens when a bunch of burned out, aging hippies become part of the establishment that they rebelled against in their misguided youth. Nothing but a bunch of Berkeley, CA copycats.
I'm by no means an admirer of George Bush, but he's had to deal with the hand that he inherited with regard to terrorism. If Clinton didn't have his head in the sand for 8 years (or up the skirt of a portly intern) and actually did *something* in the fight against terrorism, perhaps we'd be in a different position right now. Instead, he turned a blind eye and look at the mess that resulted...WTC 1993, USS Cole, embassies, etc. Jimmy Carter redux...
Posted by johnnybgood862003 on February 12, 2008 at 11:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Charles-B In case you didn't notice Bush is not running for president, so you treasonous liberals will lose your whipping-boy.
Posted by ChristenMitchell on February 12, 2008 at 11:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Bush is a lock on all time worst president. He has now also a clear lead for Worst American Ever. Bravo and Thanks to Boulder's government for considering what must be a responsibility of any caring conscious citizen. Dissent.
Posted by RickyLee on February 12, 2008 at 11:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
yeah Mitch, close the titty bar and impeach the lame duck.
Glad Boulder city council's around to save the world and tell me what's right and wrong.....
Posted by Charles_B on February 12, 2008 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
mgsorens:
Bush broke the law when he ordered wiretaps on American citizens without a court order and in violation of FISA.
He has admitted as much and says he will continue to do so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEyHca...
Congress today will pass a law immunizing telecom companies for the crimes they committed by doing what Bush ordered them to.
If there was no crime, then why do they need immunity?
Posted by Charles_B on February 12, 2008 at 11:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
johnnybgood862003:
In what way have I committed "treason"? Have the 65% of Americans who think Bush is doing a lousy job also "treasonous"?
johnybgood862003 why do you hate America?
Posted by Charles_B on February 12, 2008 at 11:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
AngryWhiteMale:
What? No mention of Reagan abandoning Lebanon after the barracks bombing?
Here's a way you can use simple math to see what Presidents have protected us from terrorism more effectively:
How many innocent Americans have been killed by terrorists while each of these people were President?
There's your answer should you be willing to do the math.
Posted by Devil_Dog on February 12, 2008 at 11:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
rg and lcdrjjxant
Could the two of you please either get an education, or better yet find another country to live in, where your fantasies are met with the punishment you truly deserve? You are two of the stupidest people to every walk the face of the earth. Your idiotic, bigoted ranting and raving is beyond belief. Try to look past your hatred of a particular group long enough to see some truths before you leave this earth as sad pathetic souls with no joy to remember in your last moments!
Posted by joggle on February 12, 2008 at 11:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
mgsorens: So this trial - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_S...
and subsequent conviction and then following pardon are all figments of my imagination?
Posted by TheProudDuck on February 12, 2008 at 11:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I had thought the relative spheres of authority of the state (and local) governments and the federal government had been determined kinda conclusively in, oh, about 1865.
I think we need to dig up General Sherman and send him over to Boulder to give the City Council a civics lesson.
Posted by sonvot on February 12, 2008 at 11:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The article was not clear if the petitioners are expecting the Boulder City Counsil to impeach the President. If so, this is a waste of government time.
From Article 1, Section 3 of the United States Consitution (You remember what that is, Ms. Robinson?):
"THE SENATE shall have the sole power to try all impeachments. When sitting for that purpose, they shall be on oath or affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no person shall be convicted without the concurrence of two thirds of the members present."
(emphasis mine)
People, e-mail and fax your Senators. Contact the members of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Don't waste your time beating the air.
Posted by mytwosense on February 12, 2008 at 11:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Here's a little cited example of Bush breaking Constitutional law...
Bush's comments about the Social Security Trust Fund, which is backed by T-Bills, also known as the full faith and credit of the United States: "There is no 'trust fund,' just IOUs that I saw firsthand."
14th Amendment, Section 4: "The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned."
Posted by jokesonus on February 12, 2008 at 11:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It’s so ridiculous that this city council and other local& state governments around the country have the time to waste on something that they have no control over. This is a complete distraction from the real problems facing this country. From the local government all the way up through the state level right to Congress and the Whitehouse, these people only care about themselves. They are “DO Nothing” for the people of this country. The president seems to feel he’s above the law, congress can only waste time putting the other side down with useless nonsense. Those who believe that the war in Iraq has anything to do with controlling terrorism are just as stupid as those who believe Hillary or Obama will fix the country.
Iraq is a distraction from finding Osama Bin Laden. Ever wonder why a military super power that can put a cruise missile through a picture window can’t find a group of stone aged thinking terrorists?? Because they don’t want to.
Quality jobs are dwindling in this country. Near nothing is made in the USA, we consume products made elsewhere. Once decent paying manufacturing jobs and tech based jobs are replaced with shelf stocking positions at Wal Mart and other places.
These government people are taking care of themselves, they don’t care about the rest of us. It’s a big joke. Get on the government payroll because they’re going to be the only good paying secure jobs left. We’re over-run with illegal’s, fuel prices are out of control… you can go on and on
Can you say Recession,, oh wait they’re giving us back 1,200 dollars , that should fix everything…
But as long as we have our 5 mile to the gallon Hum Vee’s to drive to Starbucks for a latte, and our 52” plasmas to watch the next stupid reality show we are happy in America.
Posted by AngryWhiteMale on February 12, 2008 at 11:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Charles_B:
That's a ridiculous argument. Face it...Clinton did nothing against terrorism, and we're reaping what was sown. More people have died due to Clinton not having the nuts to take on terrorists. 9-11 wasn't planned during Bush's watch...it was planned years in advance while Clinton was too busy with the fat chick. If Clinton hadn't purged the CIA of any capability, our intelligence folks just *may* have come up with something beforehand. But no, Clinton and his fellow Dems (mainly Joe Biden), didn't want to get in the mud with, what was the term they used back then?, oh yeah, "unsavory" characters, so our human intelligence gathering became non-existent. And who provided Bush with apparently bogus intelligence on Iraq? That's right, another Clinton appointee, George Tenet (CIA Director). A Clinton crony gives bogus info, yet all you Kool Aid drinkers chant "Bush lied, people died". Jeez, give me a break. How about this for a Clinton legacy...he gave away vital missile launch technology to the Chinese for a few measly campain donations. That should make life interesting for future generations. Maybe you folks in the Republik of Boulder can put up a few "terrorist-free zone" and "missile free zone" signs to make you all feel better.
Posted by Devil_Dog on February 12, 2008 at 11:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Charles_B
Try getting your facts straight. Congress disarmed the USMC guards at all Marine installations! The guards had side arms but were not permitted to have ammunition in their weapons (locked and loaded). That was a democratic congress! The Commandant of The Marine Corps ordered that all Marine guards world wide discontinue that practice immediately.
President Reagan assembled his national security team and planned to target the Sheik Abdullah barracks in Baalbek, Lebanon, which housed Iranian Revolutionary Guards believed to be training Hezbollah fighters.[9] Defense Secretary Weinberger lobbied successfully against the mission, because he was not certain that Iran was to blame for the attacks.[8
But so many leftist have a problem with the US now attacking without provocation, or not attacking the right people. Yet in your example of President Reagan you would have him attack whomever is handy or bad mouth him for not attacking anyone because a definite source could not be found at the time for the bombing! Make up your mind which is it to be.
Until you spend two weeks digging out your fellow Marines, praying to find a survivor, and praying that the snipers don't get you too, begging for the orders to arrive that send you after someone responsible, I would suggest you keep the uneducated remarks to yourself.
Posted by joggle on February 12, 2008 at 12:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"Clinton did nothing against terrorism"
Except for continuing the existing operations in Somalia until public opinion forced him out. Except for sending cruise missiles into Afghanistan. Etc.
Of course, a significant number of Democrats and Republicans resisted him at every step. He would have liked to do more but there was enormous resistance to him sending tactical forces out to the Middle East to do anything about the problem. There was also significant resistance from our allies which made it even more difficult.
Posted by angrymom on February 12, 2008 at 12:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Several members of Congress are looking to withhold federal funds for Berkely because of their stance on the Marine Corps recruiting office. Perhaps Boulder would like to operate the same way.
Posted by joggle on February 12, 2008 at 12:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I would also like to point out that Bush had no plans for sending forces into Afgahnistan until we were attacked and probably would have had a very up-hill battle against both parties to attempt to do so as well as dealing with resistance from our allies (just as Clinton had).
Posted by MrCrush on February 12, 2008 at 12:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The biggest, most expensive issue this country faces is ignorance. The city of Boulder and it's inhabitants are the poster child for that issue. I've gotta laugh because they're not worthy of my tears.
Posted by Rexxx on February 12, 2008 at 12:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)
AWESOME!!! Do it! Put these old coots behind bars once and for all.
Failure on 9/11, unsolved anthrax from USAMRIID, no WMDs, Katrina, Plame, Gonzales justices, what more do you need???
We cannot allow 20th century old men to attempt to lead (and fail miserably) in the 21st century any longer.
No more dinosaurs!!!!!
Posted by duck65 on February 12, 2008 at 12:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Oh good god, lets waist the tax payers money on something that means nothing.... What they should really be doing is looking to impeach them selves for waisting time. Glad to know that everything is perfect in Boulder, no crime, no problems that need to be fixed. Then again if there are they wouldn't know becuase their waisting there time on frivolous crap like this. Oh wait I get it they are all planning on running for congress becuase this what they do.
Posted by Moronpolitics on February 12, 2008 at 12:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
They don't even realize how silly they look; imagine being a child of one of these hopeless buffoons. Makes you want to run away from home and become an attorney. At least I have had the chance to register as Male, Female or Other. What happened to None of the Above, A and B, A and C, All of the Above, and NOBODY CARES - which is my actual gender. moronpolitics dot com.
Posted by joggle on February 12, 2008 at 12:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
MrCrush: No, you and your ilk are the poster child of ignorance. By and large people in Boulder are very well educated and know the issues better than most. They are also more politically involved and more civic-minded, with a Democrat voter turnout of over 90% in Boulder County at the last presidential election.
Posted by Moronpolitics on February 12, 2008 at 12:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I wonder if they know that the Denver Mint isn't a breath freshener?
Posted by Tbone on February 12, 2008 at 12:34 p.m. (Suggest