3 ex-terrorists speaking at AFA; Muslim group objects

By Jean Torkelson, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)

Wednesday, February 6, 2008

The Air Force Academy has invited three men who say they are former Islamic terrorists to speak at the 50th annual Academy Assembly, which opened Tuesday.

The invitation to the four-day event, "Dismantling Terrorism: Developing Actionable Solutions for Today's Plague of Violence," has angered a national Muslim group, which calls the men "anti-Muslim bigots."

"It's as if they had (ex-Klansman) David Duke come to speak about race relations," said Ibrahim Hooper, spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations. "Their entire presentation is based on the false belief that the root cause of all terrorism in the world is Islam and that it's evil and of the devil."

The assembly, founded in 1959, is a student conference on topics of contemporary significance, according to the academy Web site. This year's event is not meant to discuss any religion but to train future leaders, said Maj. Brett Ashworth, Air Force communications director.

Today's opening presentation, Inside Terrorism, features Walid Shoebat, Kamal Saleem and Zak Anani. They are described by their publicists as "three former terrorists" who "practiced hatred against Christians, Jews and Americans" and were "part of sleeper cells in the USA."

CAIR's offer to send a speaker with an alternative view of Islam was rejected because the conference isn't supposed to be about religion, Ashworth said.

The Air Force made a counteroffer to consider a CAIR speaker on terrorism. But Hooper said he rejected that as unfair because Islamic terrorism was an intrinsic part of the conference message and "we need someone to go and defend Islam with a balancing perspective."

Ashworth said the Air Force expects the three speakers to confine their message to terrorism.

Walid Shoebat, one of the three speakers, said in an interview Tuesday that he was born to an Arab father and American mother in Bethlehem in 1960. He said he renounced terrorism in 1978 when he came to America and became a Christian.

Shoebat shrugged off CAIR's objections, saying they are nothing new.

• February 6, 2008

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  windbourne writes:

  The other night I watched Lou dobbs defending himself against a Hispanic group (apparently mostly mexicans) that claimed that he was racist for speaking out against illegal aliens. What I find interesting is that more and more groups claim hate speech when you try to address the issues. I think that these groups have to learn to get past this and realize that we have real problems that MUST be address.

• February 6, 2008

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  plotz writes:

  Ah, good old Ibrahim Hooper and CAIR...CAIR is a front for Hamas and others. Always wave the same banner and avoids the very pointed and general issue...why, is most terroism linked to Islam? The speakers invited to the AFA will shed light into that and that is what Hooper, his ilk and CAIR does not want to see happen. At CAIR rallies, etc...there are signs in the crowds saying "We are Hamas"...neither CAIR or any real Islamic group says anything against it...hmmm, I wonder why? Bottom line, Islam wants to see the whole world Islamic...whether through choice or by the sword.

• February 6, 2008

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  vudumom writes:

  I find it disturbing that we as Americans have to defend ouselves against groups that condone and turn a blind eye to illegal activity that tears at the very fabric of what this country stands for.The right to be free from groups who wat to tear this country apart and people who have no sense of what rule of law means.They often confuse rule of law with the right to free speech.Yes they have a right to say what they want to say but we have a right to lock them up if they break our laws or are working as a group to undermine everything this country has fought for.

  Once again we see a group of people who thinks their religion should not be scruntinized because of the violence it has invoked on the western world.They live among us never speaking out against the violence,but when someone wants to speak out against how they became terrorists through the religion of Islam then Islamic leaders want to shut that down.Once again playing the race card or religion card.
  Memo to Ibraham Hooper, You have the right to voice your opinion and dissent with the speakers that were chosen to speak at the AFA. You do not have the right to close their mouths and not let them speak.This is still America and if you do not like the fact that someone speaks out against terrorism then you have just shown where you stand on the issue and a big threat to America.

  Note to FBI and Homeland Security- I hope you have your eyes and ears on Mr.Hooper.

• February 6, 2008

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  blacksho89 writes:

  Ibrahim Hooper IS David Duke.

• February 6, 2008

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  aeb1barfo writes:

  CAIR practices TAQAYYAH. The art of LYING to the INFIDEL.

  Read the Q'ran; It will open your eyes as to WHY many followers of ISLAM allow the behavior done in the name of ISLAM.

  Telling the facts about ISLAM is not hate speech.

  Telling the truth about Mohammed ( the creator of ISLAM ) is not hate speech.

• February 6, 2008

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  jhubers writes:

  The issue here is not being "soft" on Islam, it is asking why the Academy has invited men whose message is one of pure hatred towards people who are our neighbors, a number of whom serve in our armed forces. If the academy invited known anti-semites to speak of a Jewish conspiracy to take over the world do you think a critique would be justified? Why allow hatred against one group but not another?

  Second - there is good evidence to suggest that these men are speaking under false pretences, that the story they have told about their background is, indeed, false. This is currently being explored by a number of concerned people, including evangelical Christians who are troubled by people speaking falsehood in the name of Christ.

• February 6, 2008

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  freethinker07 writes:

  It is undeniable that there are people who identify themselves as Moslems who claim to be in a religious war with the US and who take responsibility for acts of violence against the US.

  We need to be able to tell the difference between Moslems we need to worry about and Moslems we don't need to worry about.

  I never see articles by Moslems explaining why the Moslems who kill Americans are bad and how we can tell the difference before they kill. All I see are Moslems who complain about their rights and hate-speech and ex-Moslems who say that Moslems are bad.

  In 1960 when JFK ran for President, since he was Catholic, people wondered if he would take orders from the Pope. It was a legitimate question. He answered it and was elected.

  If Moslems want acceptance, they need to help non-Moslems feel safe.

• February 6, 2008

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  kathyM writes:

  Um, jhubers, where is your "evidence" that these guys are fakes?

  If terror groups refused to confirm these guys' membership, it's simply a method of protecting the group. Islamic terror groups aren't the only ones who do this. I know a guy who was in the IRA as a kid but decided to quit. Since he was a kid and had very little knowledge of IRA secrets/plans, they let him go. But no one in the IRA would confirm my friend was ever a member. Does that mean my friend is secretly working for the IRA by pretending to be anti-IRA? NOT!

  I think these guys are on the level, but they are probably like my ex-IRA friend--low-ranking members with very little real knowledge of the group.

• February 6, 2008

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  STOPUSAGiveaway writes:

  Yeah every continent is represented in the USA and we are mere slaves at 4 percent of the worlds overpopulation INVADING our own nation. ARABS receive a call to prayer can file against our airlines after 9-11 and if their names are mispronounced......they expect it all and get it.
  MEANWHILE USA TROOPS around the world being systematically sacrificed while A M E R I C A N T s sit and keyboard
  This nation deserves everything that McCain Clinton & Obama can further do to it to take it down and AMNESTY will about do it that alone not to mention the continued Clinton Trade Agreements; donation of US tech to India and Communist China
  What dumb people especially citizens we are--
  The foundations are cracking as we speak----

• February 6, 2008

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  Lonestar writes:

  jhubers, how better to get know your enemy, their ideology, motivation, and how to defeat them than by speaking to people who were formally involved in these activities? I don't believe that Westerners can fully understand the terrorist mind without these types of resources. I'm sure it is very difficult to infiltrate their ranks, so these types of former terrorists who have denounced it may be our best shot to defeat this movement. I think hearing what these people have to say would be beneficial for all Americans, we are all targets.

• February 6, 2008

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  davies writes:

  STOPUSAGiveaway: You write as though you are functionally illiterate. Maybe if you took a deep breath now and then, you could write a coherant opinion. Here is mine:

  These speakers are probably making their living through their speaking appearances, and it is possible they could be tempted to emphasize the sensational in order to stay in demand. But on the other hand, I'm pretty confident that the Academy is capable of determining whether or not these speakers have a message that will serve to further the education of our future military leaders. So whether or not Islam is truly a religion of peace and love is beside the point. The cadets need to learn about what motivates the people who want to do violence to this country and its people.

• February 6, 2008

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  denverinfidel writes:

  Cair is a terrorist front group, plain and simple. Do your research folks. Of course they won't openly debate anyone opposing them, because they will be shown for the frauds that they are. The next time you hear CAIR whining about the treatment of muslims, do a quick search of the news stories that day and try to count the numbers of muslims slaughtered by their own. CAIR always seems to forget those when talking about the most recent case of islamophobia.

  Islam is not a peaceful religion. This is a pipe dream our multi-culti suicide enablers want to believe in. Islam is a medieval death-cult, and CAIR (and many others) work day and night to bring this wretched filth to our shores. Islam offers you the peace of having your head separated from your torso. Or maybe cutting the clit off your daughter. Or perhaps beating your wife like a rented mule. Or stoning a rape victim to death for being a whore. Or hanging teenage "fags". This list could go on and on......

  If islam were 1/100th as appealing as muslims like to portray it, they sure as hell wouldn't be moving to the united states. Just remember that muslims don't even want to live under islamic rule. They have to move here to tell us how wonderful sharia is.

  Anytime you see CAIR is involved, just remember they are on the same moral plane as NAMBLA.

• February 6, 2008

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  Devil_Dog writes:

  lcdrijxant

  You are a complete IDIOT! I have refrained from saying that as long as possible but this STUPID remark is completely past the line! Get out of the past, Grow up and get an education. Stop trying to make everything about race (your race) this is not about black people or any injustice done to any black person past or present! This is about terrorists killing innocent people to try and bend the world to their will. These people would just as soon kill you as anyone else.

• February 7, 2008

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  Pindy272 writes:

  Everyone must read Robert Spencer's "The Truth about Mohammed..and the crusades". CAIR is LYING TO OUR FACES...Infiltration, lying and deception are ancient Arab Muslim war tactics. "Taqiyya" or lying to further WAR against ALL infidels, (That's all of US) until the whole world submits to Islamic Sharia Law.
  Read this excellent article about Taqiyya here:
  http://blog.americancongressfortruth....
  Google the speakers in question: they aren't "Bigots" those are LIES CAIR is telling to the stupid infidel's face (YOU) to further the cultural and military Jihad. Become Informed or watch our grandchildren forced to wear Burkhas.

• February 7, 2008

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  Pindy272 writes:

  Yes, CAIR is practicing Taqiyya. The Truth is this: ISLAM IS THE MOST BIGOTED "RELIGION" IN THE WORLD. If CAIR is so concerned about "bigotry" why don't they protest and denounce Saudi Arabia where it's ILLEGAL to possess a bible. The "prophet" Mohammed ordered that anyone leaving Islam be KILLED. That's tolerance???
  They want US to practice "multiculturalism" but have NO intention of practicing it themselves. Why doesn't CAIR protest the other 22 Muslim nations that are some of the most brutal theocratic dictatorships on the planet??
  READ the KORAN: it teaches unending WAR against all infidels, the enslavement of women, the execution of homosexuals, denounces democracy. ALL the VALUES we all hold dear in the West are ILLEGAL under Islamic Law.
  CAIR Lies. The Media is ignorant.
  We must educate ourselves and fight back or pay the price.

• February 7, 2008

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  Oh_Wise_One writes:

  "the root cause of all terrorism in the world is Islam" there, fixed it for you Mr.Ibrahim Hooper.
  lcdrijxant- you might want to look at yourself to see why you turn everything into a racial problem and memo to you, Islam isn't a race, it's a religion.

• February 7, 2008

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  wolverb writes:

  CAIR can go to hell. Islam is the basis for most terrorism around the world. We used to have a few threats from some Irish goons but they've gone away. Now its the Muslims who cause all of the problems around the world. Muslims have no tolerance for any other religions, they can't co-exist with Christians or Hindus, they can barely exist with other Muslims. 90% of all Armed Conflicts taking place in the World today involve Muslims persecuting other religions or people. Islam is the most violent religion in history. The only way we'll ever have peace in the World is if we completely destroy Islam. If not they will eventually destroy us.

• February 7, 2008

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  malis writes:

  Do a little Google research on Shoebat, Saleem and Anani, and you discover the preponderance of their appearances are on the Evangelical Christian lecture circuit (many mega-churches).

  They seem to fall into a very traditional religious tent show category--'testimony' of how one led a life of evil and dissolution but, through the intervention of Jesus, was saved (though the catchy hook here is the previous life was not one of gangs and drugs, but Islamic Terrorism). The modern 'founding saint' of this genre is probably Nicky Cruz who in his book, "The Cross and the Switchblade," described breaking out of gangs and going on to become an evangelist (wow, that was back in the 50s or 60s I think...has it really been that long?).

  The key point is whether the Air Force Academy, as an arm of the government, should be taking specific actions with the goal or promoting Christianity. So, the key question is the motivation of the AFA in booking these speakers.

  If you agree the AFA should not promote Christianity, investigation into this booking is warranted. the most innocent explanation is that an AFA employee happened to be familiar with the Christian lecture circuit, read about these folks, and thought they'd fit well into the terrorism-oriented program. On the other hand, it appears to better fit into a years-long pattern of specific AFA senior officials inappropriately promoting Evangelical Christianity in such a way that it could be interpreted as government sponsorship of a particular religion.

• February 7, 2008

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  Devil_Dog writes:

  Nice try malis

  Doesn't matter that these people have first-hand knowledge of Islamic terrorists' tactics and beliefs does it? It only matters that they are Christian! Perhaps you have other motives for your statement? While the AFA should not back a particular religion, they would be grossly negligent if they passed on the possible wealth of information these men have to offer. Perhaps you would like to cloud the issue and keep these people from being heard? That is a very old tactic, you might like to try another. Or are you really that naive?

• February 7, 2008

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  GeeTee writes:

  The Air Force Academy is obviously a front for right-wing religious fanatics. It should be closed and make all of those bus-drier-uniform wearing nutcases go work inthe fields or something.

• February 7, 2008

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  sadiesmom writes:

  Gee tee;

  How old are you? Twelve. The Air Force Academy teaches vetted and selected brilliant students to pilot jets that you could fly only in your dreams. You, on the otherhand sound like you are only brilliant enough to drive one of those buses you are talking about. Gee tee...I think the U.S. should really think of using volunteers like yourself who have no worries or belief God to go over and offer the same brilliance to the Islamic World. You see Gee Tee.....they don't have the same freedoms of speech we have, protected for you by those horrific military nutcases. You even have a right to no religion here Gee Tee, but when you go over there to visit your friends, be sure and be prepared to suddenly get religious or lose your head. I hope you grow up better than you have started out. Its not looking too good so far.

• February 7, 2008

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  Devil_Dog writes:

  GT

  I hope that was sarcasm. In any case, if it wasn't for those "bus-DRIVER-uniform wearing nutcases" and all the other good men and women in uniform (past and present) ignorant statements like that would be punishable by death. Try living in any country that would now or tried in the past to destroy this great nation and make such stupid remarks.

• February 7, 2008

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  malis writes:

  Devil_Dog, the credibility of these three--as knowledgeable of Islamic Terrorism--is is a separate topic that deserves (and is getting) its own investigation. Apparently, they all immigrated as children or teenagers to the US and Canada in the 70s and became part of the evangelical Christian movement in the 80s (one has worked for the Christian Broadcast Network since the 80s, then became an employee of Focus on the Family in 2003, leaving only when he starting making a living on the lecture circuit). It looks like they decided to become 'terrorism' experts only after 9/11 so greatly increased the demand (and it's our fault that we're so gullible as to believe anyone with an Arabic name/look must be involved in terrorism). I'll reserve final judgment until more facts are known but, frankly, it doesn't look good.

  But back to the main question...was the motivation for inviting them terrorism, or Evangelical Christianity? Late news out of Colo Springs (yes, I live there--retired military) is that these three were added to the program at the specific request of Brig Gen Born (the AFA equivalent of the Dean of Students). BG Born--who proudly identifies himself as an Evangelical Christian--has already been counseled by his superiors not to use his position and influence to advance his religion, especially with those under his supervision or with the Cadet Wing (ther have been incidents).

  I think I can logically reverse your final questions. "Perhaps you would like to cloud the issue...That is a very old tactic, you might like to try another. Or are you really that naive?"

• February 7, 2008

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  Truthteller7 writes:

  Terrorist supporting organization alert! Cair is an un-indicted co-conspirator.
  
  http://www.anti-cair-net.org
  
  If you have not already seen this information I thought that you would want to. Some fanatical muslim group that wants the United States to become islam by hook or crook, tried to sue this all around American veteran for over $1,000,000.00 to try and make him shut down his website because he is reporting the truth about them. This same fanatical muslim group has had no less than 3 of their employees convicted of terrorism charges. Please pass this information on to anyone else that you think would want to know about this. Also, here is how they are working to try and destroy our freedoms.
  
  http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/art...

• February 7, 2008

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  malis writes:

  GeeTee, I resent that insult. The AFA is valuable and necessary. My points are made not to tear down the Academy, but to preserve its value and help it uphold its honor. Please spread your graffiti elsewhere.

• February 7, 2008

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  Devil_Dog writes:

  No malis it is you who are making judgments I clearly stated that there was a "possible wealth of knowledge" and am able to wait and hear for myself what they have to say. I do not immediately discount someone because of their religious beliefs whether they be identical to mine or completely different. Their credibility IS the topic (not a separate topic as you seem to think) read the article. As for personal credentials (since you seem to think yours are more worthy) I am a native to CO. and a fifth generation Marine, I spent much of my time in the Corps in Naval Intel. But that is not why I think these men should be heard, nor is it because they have Arabic names, it is purely for their possible knowledge (then the value of what they know, or don't know can be weighed). You are too quick to judge on the basis of their religion. So the question of motive is back to you!

• February 7, 2008

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  FlyingCloud writes:

  The content of their speeches does not really matter. Any prior restraint on their expression of their views, no matter how dislked some may find it, is unconstitutional. CAIR does not really want to function in the free society we enjoy under consitutional protected speech. One might call it, "creeping Sharia Law."

• February 7, 2008

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  malis writes:

  You seem a little sensitive, Devil_Dog. I'm perhaps overly cynical, but I rarely make a final judgment based only on what someone has to say--I prefer credentials and trusted 3rd party validation, and that's what I'm waiting for here. I'd be less worried if the AFA (and specifically BG Born) didn't have this past history.

  By the way I just looked over my post and I'm trying to figure out why you think I was implying my credentials are "more worthy" than anyone else's (or for that matter, where I was presenting my credentials...If it matters, 21 years USAF as an IT guy, retired as Senior Master Sergeant, 10 years since that as a computer security consultant). I was already fairly certain you are a Marine (and a proud one--D_D kind of gives both of those away). If it's worth anything, Intelligence officers never say they were in Intell (they don't say "I can't tell you" either, they say they were in Logistics or Personnel).

  I think it comes down to, I've heard so many claims I'm skeptical, especially if the person making the claim has a strong personal or monetary motivation to tell that specific story.

• February 7, 2008

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  Devil_Dog writes:

  No though I may have misinterpreted your meaning, (for that I apologize) I to have become cynical.

  I also could've misunderstood your motive for stating that you are retired military and your location. I'll give you that.

  In the Corps Administration (personal) Logistics (supply) and Intelligence are quite separate indeed. I was not an Intelligence officer I was attached to Naval Intel. My original MOS was as a crew chief in 3rd MAW, and due to family history I was reassigned to a "more useful" position. (My Marine-Recon father thought that the air wing was to easy.)

  Everyone has their own agenda (you and I included) and everyone wants to make a buck, the trick is to get useful information while sifting through the muck.

  I'm sorry to say this but I do think that the problems of the AFA (past problems I hope), and BG Born in particular, have left a sour taste in your mouth. Perhaps rightly so, I truly do hope that is in the past.

  But the motives of CAIR are plain to see and they do not want these men to speak (or so they say) for that reason alone I want to hear them out. Keeping in mind that a double blind is a realistic possibility as is the greed factor.

• February 7, 2008

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  bgm2919 writes:

  Lets not forget the basics: Islamic Fundamentalists (the Terrorists) take the Koran SERIOUSLY. The Moderate or Western (Nation of Islam) Muslims (nonTerrorists) allegorize the Koran.

• February 7, 2008

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  Devil_Dog writes:

  bgm

  Very true. I only wish more of the moderate Muslims (the ones who do not think killing everyone who does not share your beliefs is a good idea) would be more outspoken in denouncing the terrorists. It is much easier for the Muslim Fundamentalists (terrorists) to recruit and keep their human bombs if those human bombs have no credible Muslim leadership guiding them down a different path. The key to any successful tyrannical leadership is blind faith. By keeping the western world at arms length the Fundamental Muslim leaders can teach (from an early age) their hatred and violence unopposed. Education is the answer to this and many of the worlds problems. Educated people who perceive a chance of a better life, through their own efforts, are much less likely to agree to become human bombs.

• February 7, 2008

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  aeb1barfo writes:

  I say Tomatoe, you say Tomahto...

  The meaning is still the same:

  The KORAN ( or Q'ran, Quiran, Quran ) is still a book that teaches INTOLERANCE...Mein Kampf is like a fairy tale compared to the Q'ran.

  ( and yes I have read the original German version )

  You need to know your enemies...and what makes them tick. ( sometimes LITERALLY )

• February 8, 2008

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  defender writes:

  Yeah,
  PC idiots are trying to prevail. I know plenty of Americans,
  like me who ARE ready for evicting the Terrorists from Earth.
  Take a map of earth and place twenty six thousand red Xs for the Islamist attacks over the past ten years. 26,000!!!
  Looks like a war to me. These people are insane and decent people must stand and GET RID of them or they will get rid of you. I have really been exposed to so many fools on just these comments, I know that a few strong people will have to ,as always, protect your right to stay this stupid.Don't like that view,,Come and try to take it from me.

• February 8, 2008

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  username writes:

  We should not ever be surprised that Muslims lie. We should be much more surprised that the Western world does not know this. The Koran very clearly states that Muslims should lie if it will advance Islam.

• February 8, 2008

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  tabingins911 writes:

  Somewhere on the internet is a "World Map of All Muslim Conflicts". It looks like the whole world is at war.
  Wish I could remember the website. You will just have to search for it. It appears that Muslims can't get along with anyone.

• February 9, 2008

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  truthcrusader writes:

  I've done a little research into Islam as my daughter was married to an Arab. He was mysteriously gone for long periods of time the spring and summer of 2001. He devorced her in the fall of 2001 and left her with considerable debt. Thank God he is out of our lives. Muslims will say anything and do whatever is necessary to achieve their goal. Was he a member of a sleeper cell? I don't know. But I think it is necessary to understand how they think and what motivates them. The Air Force Academy is wise to invite speakers with the experience of these men.

  For those of you who wish to learn more about these speakers, click on the following links or paste them into your browsers Address field:
  Walid Shoebat - http://www.shoebat.com/bio.php
  Kamal Shaleem - http://www.koomeministries.com/saleem...
  Zachariah Anani - http://www.shoebat.com/anani.php
  You'll find that they were recruited as children (the preferred age) and were well into their 30s before they had a change of heart. I think we should heed what they say.

• February 21, 2008

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  mariepeters writes:

  What critics? CAIR? Council of American Islamic Relations? This terrorist group that originated from the I.A.P a front for Hamas is now a legitimate critic trying to denounce Shoebat? Walid Shoebat was a terrorist who speaks against terrorism. He never spoke religion at the event, if he did, you would have been glad to have quoted statements from that event. Yet you lie and you know it. Then there are "critics" who doubt Shoebat's credebility? Shobeat's cousin Jawad Younis (a terrorist as well who was extradited from Israel) was the attorney of Abu Zubaydah http://www.muslimedia.com/ARCHIVES/oa...

  Younis is also associated with Hizbullah. Abu Zubaydah was Younis’s defendant in Jordan while being judged in absentia. Zubaydah was the first high-value detainee taken by the CIA in 2002, is now being held with other detainees at the U.S. base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Zubaydah was the one that confessed Ramzi Bin Alshib, and the two men's confessions also led to the capture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM), who the U.S. government said was the mastermind behind the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. The link to prove that Shoebat is a relative of Younis was proven beyond doubt as Kamal Younis, Jawad’s brother, along other family members of Shoebat began to spill information to Eileen Fleming, a journalist who was interested in smearing Shoebat.
  Members of Shoebat’s family tried it's best to protect Al-Qaeda operatives and Usama Bin Laden key agents behind 9/11. A complete rebuttal to articles that lack credibility currently circulates the web in attempt to discredit Shoebat can be read at:
  http://www.opednews.com/articles/oped...

  During these testimonies by Kamal Younis, the brother of Jawad Younis, as well as other members proved Shoebat’s link is true and accurate. Even his prison and life in Israel as he tells in his speeches and books.