Broncos fire coach Shanahan
By Jeff Legwold, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)
Tuesday, December 30, 2008
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Mike Shanahan in the fourth quarter of the Broncos' 52-21 loss to the San Diego Chargers at Qualcomm Stadium. The Broncos, who lost three straight games and the AFC West title, ended the season at 8-8.
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ENGLEWOOD — A year ago, Broncos owner Pat Bowlen sat in his well-appointed office at the team's Dove Valley complex, contemplating his team's failure to make the playoffs, and said:
"I'm of the opinion we've got one of the best coaches, head coaches, in the league. We're going to have our good years and our bad years — that's just the way our business works — but I think Mike's a very, very good coach and got quite a bit of time left on his current contract. ... Mike's not going anywhere."
And by all accounts Tuesday, Bowlen looked out on this season's playoff miss — the team's third consecutive year out of the postseason — an 8-8 finish and a defense that staggered through the season.
Then he shocked the NFL.
After 14 years, Bowlen fired the winningest coach in Broncos history, parting ways with Mike Shanahan, who had delivered his only two Super Bowl trophies.
"After giving this careful consideration, I have concluded that a change in our football operations is in the best interests of the Denver Broncos," Bowlen said in a statement. "This is certainly a difficult decision, but one that I feel must be made and which will ultimately be in the best interests of all concerned.
"I appreciate the 21 years that Mike Shanahan has given to the organization as an assistant and head coach, and the two Super Bowl wins in that time. His contributions hold a special place in Broncos history."
Bowlen could not be reached for additional comment. Shanahan did not return messages. Both were expected to speak publicly at a news conference at 11 a.m. today.
Shanahan, who had two stints as a Broncos assistant coach to go with his tenure as a head coach, is 154-102 as a head coach with two Super Bowl wins.
Three league sources said Tuesday afternoon that in a short meeting, Bowlen had wanted Shanahan to make changes on the team's coaching staff, particularly with defensive coordinator Bob Slowik, and that Shanahan had refused.
Slowik is considered one of Shanahan's closest friends in the league — the two have known each other since being on the University of Florida's coaching staff from 1980 to 1982.
Shanahan had said immediately after the Broncos' season-ending loss in San Diego on Sunday night that there would be no change at defensive coordinator.
Privately, some Broncos officials quickly were disputing Tuesday night that Slowik's future was the tipping point, claiming Shanahan's departure has more to do with the erosion in the day-to-day relationship between Bowlen and Shanahan.
Defense a sore spot
As team officials said former general manager Ted Sundquist was fired after the 2007 season when he and Shanahan no longer communicated well enough to coexist in their jobs — Bowlen called it "dysfunctional" — there was a feeling at the Broncos complex the same kind of separation was growing between Shanahan and Bowlen in recent seasons.
There also was the matter of performance on the field and what was perceived as an increasing unrest among the fan base.
Since the team won the Super Bowl to close the 1998 season, the Broncos have one playoff win — against the Patriots in the divisional round in 2005 — and have missed the playoffs six times in the past 10 years, including the past three.
"I've known Mike for a long time, he's a good, good friend, and I've also gotten the opportunity to get to know Pat Bowlen very well over the years as well," said Tennessee Titans coach Jeff Fisher, a longtime Shanahan friend from their days on the San Francisco 49ers staff. "And I know I speak for a lot of people when I say I'm disappointed this couldn't work out for both of them for whatever reason.
"The Broncos will continue to be a quality organization, and Mike is certainly capable of winning a lot of games. I know now that they've both decided to go different directions they'll both be successful."
Slowik, who joined the Broncos staff in 2005 as a defensive backs coach, was in his first season calling the defensive plays. The Broncos surrendered 448 points this season, breaking the franchise record of 409 points in 2007.
Free agents fell short
Bowlen looked visibly shaken after Sunday's loss to the Chargers. In that game, the Broncos allowed season highs in yards (491), rushing yards (289) and points (52). It also meant for the year, the defense finished 29thin the league overall and ranked 24th or worse in 16 major categories.
The Broncos also finished 4-4 at home this season — only the second time in Shanahan's tenure the team did not have a winning record at home.
Shanahan had taken plenty of public criticism for free-agent signings such as running back Travis Henry, who was arrested on federal drug chargers earlier this year after a failed one-year stint with the team; punter Todd Sauerbrun, who was suspended four games for using banned substances and later cut after an altercation with a Denver cab driver; and defensive tackle Daryl Gardener, who signed a seven-year, $34.8 million contract in 2003 and then in July of that year tore ligaments in his right wrist during an early-morning altercation outside an Aurora pancake house.
Two of Shanahan's 2008 free agents, linebacker Niko Koutouvides and safety Marlon McCree, were in uniform down the stretch, but both were game-day inactives Sunday against the Chargers.
Also, until showing a greater commitment to the draft the past three years, the Broncos went through a stretch in which their draft picks didn't stay on their roster.
No players remain from the 2003 draft class, players who would have just completed their sixth seasons.
Linebacker D.J. Williams was the only player from the 10-member draft class in 2004 to still be on the roster until running back Tatum Bell was re-signed this past season, and Karl Paymah is the only player from the 2005 draft class — one that included the late Darrent Williams.
While it was unclear how many members of Shanahan's coaching staff, if any, would be retained, Tuesday's move could present a huge financial commitment for the Broncos if Shanahan or any assistant coaches who are fired don't take jobs with other teams.
Shanahan has three years remaining on his current contract, which was to go through 2011, so the Broncos would owe him in the neighborhood of $21 million if he didn't take another job during the next three years.
Financial complications
But some in the league believed Tuesday night that Shanahan, a two-time Super Bowl winner who is tied for 15th in NFL history in coaching victories, quickly would become a candidate for the New York Jets job with the possibility of working with son Kyle, who currently is the Texans' offensive coordinator.
The Broncos assistant coaches also are under contract through at least the 2009 season, and quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates, who had drawn interest from the University of Tennessee, recently was given a two-year extension by Shanahan and is under contract through 2011.
All of those contracts would have to be paid as well if those coaches were fired and didn't get jobs with other teams.
It could have quite a financial impact on the Broncos, who are facing a cash crunch like many businesses in tough economic times.
Shanahan also had complete power over the team's football operations, so Bowlen could face additional expenditures if he makes an expected move toward a more traditional general manager/head coach structure.
Jim Goodman is the Broncos' vice president of football operations/player personnel, and he had Shanahan's ear on all personnel matters because of a long relationship. Jeff Goodman, Jim's son, and Brian Xanders, who had been hired from the Atlanta Falcons last offseason, are assistant general managers.
Longtime associates of Bowlen said Tuesday night that in the past, he has leaned toward people he knows when facing major decisions that would determine the direction of the search, but those associates also quickly pointed out Tony Dungy was on the top of the team's list of candidates in 2001 when Shanahan was in the hunt for the University of Florida job.
If the Broncos chose to retain Bates because of his contract situation and close relationship with quarterback Jay Cutler and hired a coach with a defensive background, the Titans' Jim Schwartz is expected to receive consideration.
Fisher long has said Schwartz is "ready to be a head coach."
Other candidates could be former Arizona Cardinals coach Dave McGinnis, Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo and Baltimore defensive coordinator Rex Ryan.
If the team wanted to lean toward former Broncos assistants with offensive backgrounds, Mike Heimerdinger and Gary Kubiak could be potential candidates.
Heimerdinger is the Titans' offensive coordinator and Kubiak is believed to have two more years remaining on his contract as coach of the Texans.
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December 30, 2008
3:31 p.m.
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CantFixStupid writes:
Be careful of what you wish for.
December 30, 2008
3:32 p.m.
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Grim_Reefer writes:
Oh, and he's building a big a$$ house in Cherry Hills Village...oh, what to do?
December 30, 2008
3:32 p.m.
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JluvDC writes:
I didn't think he'd actually leave. I hope they find a good replacement!
December 30, 2008
3:33 p.m.
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DanGJR213 writes:
NO!!!!!!!!!!
December 30, 2008
3:33 p.m.
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Jubei writes:
Umm, did I read this right? I thought he was the coach for life.
Wow. This offseason is going to be VERY interesting.
December 30, 2008
3:34 p.m.
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Woodrow writes:
Finally... Didn't think he had the stones to do it. Shanahan is a GREAT coach but there comes a time when the message doesn't get through and the team needs a new approach - just the way it is.
December 30, 2008
3:34 p.m.
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Michael writes:
I think it was time and it seems everyone that mattered thought the same. Thanks for all the great years Mike and for those 2 SuperBowl wins which you were a large part of. Good luck and all the best.
December 30, 2008
3:34 p.m.
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WarrenJimmyBuffett writes:
It was a great ride, Mike. Two Super Bowls finally won. Good luck to you in the future. Just don't open that steak house. It is the wrong time.
December 30, 2008
3:34 p.m.
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RustyWon writes:
Wow.
Mike, we appreciate all you have done for us over the years, but it was time.
Jim Schwartz (Titans D Coordinator) or Bill Cowher.
Let's go Broncos.
December 30, 2008
3:34 p.m.
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mrtaco writes:
GET COWHER!!!! GET COWHER!!!! GET COWHER!!!! GET COWHER!!!! GET COWHER!!!! GET COWHER!!!!
December 30, 2008
3:34 p.m.
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Zim writes:
C'mon, RMN-- a little more truth to your headline: "The Denver Broncos Fire Mike Shanahan". There..... was that so hard?
December 30, 2008
3:35 p.m.
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Squatch writes:
You got your wish shanahan haters. Better hope we get cowher otherwise we are screwed.
December 30, 2008
3:36 p.m.
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hoodedbeagle writes:
About time, I guess he can still advertise jewelery!
December 30, 2008
3:36 p.m.
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OrangeReign writes:
Sad to see a Broncos Legend leave our organization, but there is always a time when you know its over. Maybe we should get Marty Schottenhiemer!!! He could never make it to the big game because of us (The Broncos) so maybe we can help him get there this time!!!?
December 30, 2008
3:39 p.m.
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DenverSportsFanatic writes:
Yes That was A BIG MOVE. WOW!! So who's next bill belichik or Cower Or Mike Singletary? Thanks Mike For the memory's
December 30, 2008
3:40 p.m.
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CP writes:
Bad bad move. Who the heck does Bowlen think he can get that would do better when 7 running backs were out injured?
Poor decision.
December 30, 2008
3:41 p.m.
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jlstaud writes:
Hallalujah!!!
December 30, 2008
3:43 p.m.
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Zim writes:
Here, RMN.... what part of Bowlen's statement here sounds like the Broncos and Shanahan "agree to part ways"?
"Bowlen's statement said, 'After giving this careful consideration, I have concluded that a change in our football operations is in the best interests of the Denver Broncos. This is certainly a difficult decision, but one that I feel must be made and which will ultimately be in the best interests of all concerned.' "
He was fired. F-I-R-E-D. Fired. Feel free to stop brown-nosing Shanahan any time now. He stinks. Looking forward to having a team with real drive and fire now, instead of year after year of end-of-the-season implosions.
December 30, 2008
3:45 p.m.
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surferon writes:
I'm torn on this one. He's a great coach but as a player personnel guy not so sure.
I agree with CP on the runningback injuries and still being a .500 team but I also agree with Woodrow. I don't think the team was getting his message anymore.
Thanks for all you've done here in Denver Mr. Shanahan, good luck to you in the future.
December 30, 2008
3:45 p.m.
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Jubei writes:
Thanks for the good years, Mike. I still remember being scared to death that the first SB with TD was going to end like the three before it. Watching the seconds tick down to 0:00 was one of the happiest moments of my life.
But that was ten years ago. Now I look forward to a bright future with a high-powered offense and hopefully a much-improved defense.
The fact that Bowlen had the stones to actually do this bodes well for the future. I would love to see a real GM and a defensive-minded coach step into the breech.
Steve Spagnuolo would be a good fit I think. He wouldn't have to worry about the offense, and if he could team up with a quality GM to improve the defense and ST, we could be back in this thing very soon.
Good luck, Mike.
December 30, 2008
3:46 p.m.
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Rex writes:
I must say I am shocked.
December 30, 2008
3:46 p.m.
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angryman1n writes:
And the fans rejoice!
Next up, the QB. Cutsoon.
December 30, 2008
3:46 p.m.
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bronco4428 writes:
yea people u alllll got what u wished for now u will see what happens .....pushed the guy out the door....get ready for a real bad season...god help this team if the chargers fire there coaches....we are in for a looooongg next 5 seasons or so....this is the worst possible news u idiot bronco fans could of have .....we just took 3 steps back... he was breeding and molding the best young qb in the game...i can t wait i just cant wait till you bronco fans complain about who the hell is in here now u got what u asked for....
December 30, 2008
3:47 p.m.
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El_Braino writes:
WOW! C'mon Coach Spagnuolo!!!!!!
December 30, 2008
3:47 p.m.
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FatTony writes:
BILL FREAKIN COWHER, no doubt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 30, 2008
3:47 p.m.
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peachy0301 writes:
Thank you Mike for everything!
Pat Bowlen - what are you thinking????!!!??? Who are you going to bring in to replace him? Bill Cowher? Oh I so hope not! John Elway??? I'd rather he go into politics.
Fans - be ready for some pretty lean years with now having to rebuild the coaching staff as well as your defense.
December 30, 2008
3:48 p.m.
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golffanatic777 writes:
This is FANTASTIC! Napolean had to go....bring on Cowher!
December 30, 2008
3:49 p.m.
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HankReardon writes:
Fifteen comments in eight minutes. Wow. Change is needed. You can come back now, Kubiak.
Thanks Mike, and glad that you and John were able to show Reeves and the Falcons a thing or two during your Back-2-Back seasons.
Fresh Horses!
December 30, 2008
3:49 p.m.
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Norseman writes:
And then over in the classified's...
Situation Wanted: Genius, Mastermind, Jewelry Pitchman.
Willing to relocate, if current $10M house is assumed by new owner.
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About time they dumped his arrogant arse...
December 30, 2008
3:49 p.m.
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timeandagain writes:
The Broncos have been weak but I would have given it one more year. The D was terrible this year and they had a ton of injuries... It is going to be tough to find a quality replacement with so many coaching vacancies in the NFL this year.
Maybe Romeo Crennell?? HAHA
How about Pete Carroll?
December 30, 2008
3:49 p.m.
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Disgusted_in_Denver writes:
YEEEEHAAAAAA!!!!!!! A step in the right direction!
December 30, 2008
3:49 p.m.
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peachy0301 writes:
Thank you Mike for everything! You took a slightly above average team and took it to the top - 2 super bowl wins with the greatest quarterback ever to have played the game. Thank you for the memories!!!
Pat Bowlen - what are you thinking????!!!??? Who are you going to bring in to replace him? Bill Cowher? Oh I so hope not! John Elway??? I'd rather he go into politics.
Fans - be ready for some pretty lean years with now having to rebuild the coaching staff as well as the defense.
December 30, 2008
3:51 p.m.
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anderson writes:
Best wishes to Mr. Shanahan. Denver doesn't know how good they've had it.
How about Gary Kubiak?
December 30, 2008
3:51 p.m.
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Biff writes:
Fox Sports just said that Bill Cower is the new head coach.
December 30, 2008
3:51 p.m.
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stinkfist2 writes:
WOW!!!!! No way did this just happen!!!! Cp you're right, who would be a better replacement? No one right now, it's a sad day for the Broncos
December 30, 2008
3:51 p.m.
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mrtaco writes:
PARCELLS?
December 30, 2008
3:51 p.m.
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Jubei writes:
Keep holding your breath, angryman...
Jay isn't going anywhere. Get used to it.
And the 'Cutsoon' thing isn't any less corny now than it was months ago. But if you and the voices in your head think it's funny, well, that's the important thing.
December 30, 2008
3:51 p.m.
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DestinyBender writes:
Hi ho the dairy oh, the rat bites the dust.
December 30, 2008
3:52 p.m.
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MrYeahBut writes:
So incredibly stupid! So stupid!!!
December 30, 2008
3:52 p.m.
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Puddles writes:
Maybe since Schottenheimer didn't have much luck against the Broncos he could be good with the Broncos....?
December 30, 2008
3:53 p.m.
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scootertrash writes:
Maybe Lane Kiffen would come to Denver, Bowlen seems to like ex Raider coaches.
December 30, 2008
3:53 p.m.
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Cowboy63 writes:
"Hello... Bill Cowher?
This is Pat Bowlen. Welcome to Denver!"
December 30, 2008
3:54 p.m.
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chizman69 writes:
hahahaha the witch is gone. so happy I am
December 30, 2008
3:54 p.m.
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MLovett28 writes:
WOW!!!!! I didn't see this coming. As the lead driver for the Denver Broncos this is huge. I surely hope this is a well thought out move by Mr. Bowlen. Maybe Bill Cowher is headed here OR Mr. Bowlen is deciding to throw a HUGE AMOUNT of money at Gary Kubiak.
I am going to miss "Coach" is what I called him. He was the greatest thing for this franchise. He sat right behind me and I for one am sad about this. Im a huge believer in " If you cut your own throat, you will bleed to death!!!!"
I feel like a death has occured and I along with some others no doubt will need time to adjust to this. Coach I will miss you!!!!!
December 30, 2008
3:55 p.m.
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Jason writes:
Brian Billick would be the best guy to replace Mike, to shore-up the D.
December 30, 2008
3:55 p.m.
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entitledtomyown writes:
Man, that is a shocker!!! Thanks Mike for the good memories!! Good Luck to the next head coach coming in here, because we have a lot of gap to close. DAMN THIS MEANS NOBODY'S JOB IS SECURE!!!!
December 30, 2008
3:55 p.m.
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Colo38 writes:
I find it ironic that not very long ago we WON 2 Super Bowls and if I' not mistaken we have been very competitive the past 10 years since. I also recall an AFC Championship appeareance along the way. I would love to see any other NFL team lose 7 running backs and still have an 8 win season.
SAD DAY TO BE A BRONCOS FAN! FUNNY HOW THE BANDWAGON FANS ALL OF A SUDDEN HAVE AN OPINION
December 30, 2008
3:56 p.m.
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Hazardous_T writes:
Cowher isn't going to be cheap but he is the answer if the Broncos want to win now...
December 30, 2008
3:56 p.m.
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bwall19 writes:
BAD BAD MOVE! Cowher is NOT coming back to coaching people - get it thru your heads now! Denver will not be making playoffs for another 3-5 years because of this dumb move. Bowlen - what are you thinking???
December 30, 2008
3:56 p.m.
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cdmdenver writes:
I sincerely HOPE they fire the ENTIRE COACHING
STAFF Including that STIFF SLOWISKI!!
December 30, 2008
3:58 p.m.
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mbg51 writes:
This is a very dumb move!!! Bowlen - what are you thinking?!?!?!?
He had started building a champion - now... half way through the re-build, let's start over... ARGH!!!
We will miss you Shanahan - thanks for everything...
p.s. Please don't go to another AFC West team (especially the 'bolts)
December 30, 2008
4:01 p.m.
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benn writes:
Stupid move by Bowlen... there isn't a coach on the market with the talent of Shanny.... not even Cowher.
Good Luck Mike! Thanks for everything you did for this city
December 30, 2008
4:01 p.m.
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ProudandRespectful writes:
Is it too late to bring back Reeves?
December 30, 2008
4:01 p.m.
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BigRich writes:
I don't think he saw THIS coming. Wow, this is huge. Shanahan is a very good coach, but even good coaches lose their edge if they stay in one place for too long. Shanahan and the Broncos will benefit from this move.
December 30, 2008
4:01 p.m.
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baylinorcrush writes:
Simply floored.
Most excitement since the super bowl wins.
We can now hope to rebuild a defense.
Keep the offense, except Bates.
December 30, 2008
4:02 p.m.
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ORBroncoFan53 writes:
Shocked isn't enough to describe this. This was a HUUUUUGGGGEEEE mistake.I bet it came down to giving up some power and he wouldn't do it. Well all you Shanahan haters better get ready to play him twice a year after he takes over for Norv Turner in San Diego. This is BAD FOR US.
December 30, 2008
4:02 p.m.
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RBN writes:
I smell the Jets in the future for Shanahan...crap, who are the broncos going to get??? this is going to start a coach carousel like the quarterback one we just got off of. Blast, the groundhog saw its shadown, long winter coming followed by years of frusration and pain like the last three...i guess it doesn't matter that he is gone.
December 30, 2008
4:02 p.m.
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climber4life writes:
How about we bring in Lane Kifflin, wouldn't that be a crack up. Another former Raiders coach.
December 30, 2008
4:02 p.m.
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sundowner writes:
How about a cut for the kicker? I think that would be great.
December 30, 2008
4:04 p.m.
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RickJames77 writes:
And I'd like to introduce the new Denver Broncos coaching staff:
Head Coach - Bill Cowher
Offensive Coordinator - Mike Martz
Defensive Coordinator - Romeo Crennel
December 30, 2008
4:05 p.m.
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Broncos101 writes:
I am not rejoicing! I had a lot more faith in Shanahan then Bowlen. We now join the rest of the NFL of 1 coach every 2-3 years for a while. You think Bowlen will spend the money to bring in Cowher? Bowlen is going young just like when he first hired Shanahan! How does Lane Kiffin sound?
December 30, 2008
4:05 p.m.
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Hedz writes:
I'm glad it was mutual. But if important pople are reading this and these important people are debating bringing Bill Cower in, I will BURN EVERYTHING BRONCOS that I own, I will videotape it and post it on you tube!!!! NO BILL COWER!!!!
December 30, 2008
4:05 p.m.
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tomk writes:
I am deeply sorry that Shanahan is going. Given this season's vicissitudes with injuries especially having no fit running backs combined with a poor defense. I hope that this is not just a kneejerk reaction and that Mike will not go to another team and come back to haunt us. I have no idea who will replace him but he had better be good. There is no substitute for experience and I would have preferred him to be there for at least another couple of years to guide Cutler into Elwayland. We shall see. Meanwhile Mike, thanks for the memories especially of the Superbowls (even the ones we lost). Good luck in the future. An end of an era and a sad moment indeed. I hope the Broncos future is bright but I am not sure that this is the cleverest move.
December 30, 2008
4:05 p.m.
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broncofan722 writes:
Wow....can't say I am sad about this but also shocked. Mixed feelings due to the history of Mike but also the need for change and progress. As so many others have said, Thanks Mike.
December 30, 2008
4:06 p.m.
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bronco4428 writes:
culter now has to learn a whoooollleee new system.....its the worst news possible....this team was a defense away from a super bowl....number 2 offense in the nfl !!!!!! cant wait to see where that drops too....we had to concentrate on a defense...what a waste its unreal...
December 30, 2008
4:06 p.m.
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chip writes:
this fan is not rejoicing though maybe its time for change...very few coaches last 14 years...& dont forget he helped develop Elway as OC under Reeves....
for this grateful fan appreciates & thanks him ...& wishes him well...doubt if anyone other than the NYJets,Bills,Browns,Bengals,Jaguars,Chargers,
Chiefs,Raiders,Vikings,Packers,Bears,Lions,Bucs,Rams, & Seahawks will even give him an interveiw...
I will have 3 teams to follow next year at least
December 30, 2008
4:06 p.m.
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scoobydoo writes:
OMG!!!!! Pat Bowlen you are the most stupid owner in the NFL. You got rid of the best coach Denver has ever had. The person you needed to get rid of was Jay Cutler cause he worthless if Plummer would have done and messed up like Cutler did he would have been benched. You are a fool.. Good Luck Mike I will be following you, no longer a Bronco follower, (i mean donkey's now) Get rid of CUTLER.
December 30, 2008
4:07 p.m.
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ssc writes:
so so so NOT happy
December 30, 2008
4:07 p.m.
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republinaziorcommucratNOT writes:
There is a god. If only the Rockies had as much sense.
December 30, 2008
4:08 p.m.
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anthony1979 writes:
Maybe we could bring in Mike Martz or somebody like that...
December 30, 2008
4:08 p.m.
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jb1575 writes:
New Year's Resolution: Become a Bronco's Fan Again!!!!
December 30, 2008
4:08 p.m.
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Cel writes:
Don't tell me...The Monforts have purchased controlling interest and have hired Susan "Stop The Insanity" Powter as head coach
December 30, 2008
4:09 p.m.
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DesertBroncoFan writes:
Well, all you Shanahan haters have your wish. I just hope that this team is as relevant over the next 14 years as it has been in the previous 14 years.
Sorry to see you go Mike. Not sure who else could have gotten the results you did with 16 players on IR (7 of them running backs) and at one point missing 5 of the 11 starters on defense. Not sure what all the haters expected.
December 30, 2008
4:09 p.m.
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ljsbronconm writes:
Now this is about the dumbest thing they did next to the Portis- Bailey trade. I hope they find the next great coach in Bronco history. Buy the way is Gary staying in Houston?
December 30, 2008
4:09 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
Thanks for some good memories and 2 rings, Mike. No other coach gave us "back to back SB's". It was a surprise to me that it came to this (I'm sure the "Shanahan haters" will disagree), which leads me to the next comment......
Angryman1n, you're a jerk. If you think they will cut a Pro Bowl QB, you're more ignorant then I thought. He has a little more then 2 years under his belt in actual playing time. I recall Rivers was on the bench for 2 years before he actually played. Get a clue and quit spouting off, simply to be an a$$.
Squatch, agreed. They need quality. Schottenheimer or Cowher. I doubt if Marty would want to play for Denver, after all the drummings they gave him, but you never know. Cowher can get the D looking strong. The offense looks good. I would say our defensive coach is on his way out. ST's, also.
bronco4428, why are you using the handle, "bronco4428", yet dissing the Broncos fans? I liked Shanahan and defended him but you singled out all of the Broncos fans in general? Confusing? If you need to bash someone, bash people like angryman1n who thinks they should cut Cutler. He's the one deserving of a good bashing.
December 30, 2008
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Debunkin8tor writes:
Hire Dave Logan!
December 30, 2008
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eCurmudgeon writes:
Fired? You know, if Shanahan had one ounce of basic decency, he would have submitted his resignation to Pat Bowlen immediately after the San Diego Debacle Sunday night and took a Southwest Airlines flight back to Denver...
If anything, this should have happened a couple of years ago.
December 30, 2008
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Colorado4ever writes:
Wow, I blogged it on the "Tuesday Morning Quarterback" article and an hour later it happened. I've got to go and get a lottery ticket now... Gonna be interesting to see what kind of leadership Bowlen puts together and how. Cowher maybe as head coach? Can you imagine what his head would do if the Broncos D played like they did Sunday. Cowher's lip would probably swallow his whole head!!! I just made myself pee a little between being happy for some real change and making my first funny on Cowher...Can you imagine, the best job in pro sports is up for grabs???
December 30, 2008
4:11 p.m.
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scoobydoo writes:
Bad move, first they let Elam go and now Mike. STUPID, STUPID, STUPID. They need to get rid of the kicker, the quarterback and Pat himself. Will no longer follow the donkeys (broncos)
December 30, 2008
4:11 p.m.
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Squatch writes:
When Norv gets fired next week don’t be shocked to see an offer from the Chargers go out to Shanahan. Shanahan will land on his feet but I cant say the same for the Broncos you will need a HOF Coach with this young team.
Thanks Mike for the Memories.
I don’t know who they plan on replacing you with but he better have a damn good resume and not be some flash in the pan coordinator.
December 30, 2008
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breasor writes:
Shocking. Thought Shanahan had one more year to turn things around, but after this past month's collapse, the horrible state of their defense and the revolving door of scapegoat coaches Shanny was firing on a yearly basis, I can see why Bowlen thought it was time for a change. I hope Bowlen has a plan/someone in mind good enough to replace Shanahan with (Cowher, Cowher, Cowher) to upgrade/address the two major needs of this team, defense and the need of a rushing attack to assist Cutler's passing game.
The one thing that sticks in my gut is that the Chargers are probably loving that they we're the last team that played a major role in Shanahan's demise. That's why I'm going to become a Colts fan this week and will be pulling for Manning to make the Chargers victory celebration short and bittersweet. I hope the Colts defense wipes that cocky smile off of Philip Rivers' face.
December 30, 2008
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ORBroncoFan53 writes:
Maybe Dallas that would be better than the Bolts.I was pulling for the Colts this Saturday but now I hope the Bolts win the Super Bowl because that is the only way Shanny stays out of SanDiego.
December 30, 2008
4:11 p.m.
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busta writes:
Thank you Mr. Bowlen!
December 30, 2008
4:12 p.m.
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jack_carlson writes:
I am not convinced that this is a wise move! This may be one of those situations where the folks who have called for Shanahan's head will regret having their wish granted. I have had issues with the play calling in recent years, but I had issues with Tom Landry's play calling too.
December 30, 2008
4:13 p.m.
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Faux_Noise writes:
One more unemployed Republican!
Mangini anyone?
December 30, 2008
4:14 p.m.
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Disgusted_in_Denver writes:
My comment to anyone else who says "who is a better replacement?" is, well anyone! What record and experience did he bring when he came to the Broncos? It is ridiculous to say that there is no one better to replace him. The Broncos are better off with a fresh start. The offense is in place, they need a running back. What this team needs is a mentally tough coach who preaches defense. With that you then give the offensive duties to an offensive coordinator. You also give the GM duties to, yes you got it a GM. It was too much, he had too much control. This is a good day for the Broncos. Anyone who thinks that this is a bad thing needs to open their eyes, this team and organization is mediocre at best and was going NO WHERE! The arrogant head coach and his arrogant predictions and total control mentality is gone. Hopefully Bowlen thinks long and hard about the positions open and gets a great GM in here who can evaluate talent. Shanny may have been a great coach but was a terrible GM and front office man, that is what got his arrogant mug fired!
December 30, 2008
4:14 p.m.
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broncofan722 writes:
Next year will not matter if Shanny is there or not. The schedule is a killer and with our defense we will be lucky to win 8 again.
Change can be good. Shanny was on a power kick and needed some help. He probably would not give up any responsibility so Bowlen pulled the trigger. Didn't think Bowlen had it in him.
December 30, 2008
4:17 p.m.
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Tizzy writes:
Thoughts about Mr. Shanahan.
I do not care for your Trice commercials.
You eat too much red meat (i've been to Del Frisco's only a few times, but everytime I'm there, you are too).
You should not of stopped using Grecian formula this season... maybe the owners thought you looked too old to be the head coach.
Maybe you shouldn't of purchased a Cherry Hills Village mansion that has 15 bedrooms when jobs are hard to come by these days and your kids have left the nest.
Change can be good in football. A new leader and a new attitude. This is a new chapter in your life. Maybe you can move with your buddy George W. to Dallas and open a Shanahan's Steakhouse in Texas.
Thanks for your efforts, but this team needs a coach that isn't old school.
December 30, 2008
4:19 p.m.
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Jason writes:
Bring in Bill Parcells.
December 30, 2008
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December 30, 2008
4:20 p.m.
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bassman writes:
Shanny's worst season without Elway was 7-9. He never fielded a terrible team. Unfortunately he hasn't fielded good teams either. Krieger's column in today's Rocky spelled it out. Multi-million dollar bonuses for Koutouvides, McCree and Bailey. None of these guys played worth a darn. He has built a great young offense, despite the moron who wants to release Cutler. He couldn't draft good defensive players though. Cowher and Spagnuolo are the only acceptable candidates. Thanks, Mike.
December 30, 2008
4:21 p.m.
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WYOCowboy writes:
Love the jealousy so many have of anyone with money. Stop posting comments on online news articles, get a job, and maybe you can have a nice house too. The fact that no one saw this coming says to me that Bowlen has a big fish on the line or in mind otherwise he doesn't make this move. Were half way through a rebuild (offense ready to go) and this could set us back years if the wrong guy is selected. That said, the Shanahan message was clearly losing effectiveness with the team. As the saying goes "be careful what you wish for" Shanahan haters...you got what you wanted. You'll probably be the first in line calling for the new guys head eight games into next year. Thank you coach Shanahan for 2 Superbowl victories. Good luck!
December 30, 2008
4:21 p.m.
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Juice writes:
BAD MOVE!
Well, all you haters got your wish... better enjoy at least two more years of no playoffs... let's see, they owe him at least $20 million so they can't get a good coach because they have no money until he signs with a new team. By then, the pickings will be slimmer than they are now.
Cowher is not coaching for at least one more year... Shanahan will be coaching the Jets or the Chiefs... He will kill Denver EVERY TIME he faces the Broncos... look what he did to the Raiders.
YOU WILL ALL BE SORRY!
December 30, 2008
4:21 p.m.
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FatTony writes:
I don't think it was a good move, regardless of 3 playoff-less seasons. We were rebuilding after our self-destruction in the AFC finals against Pittsburgh a couple years back, and this process is never quick. I think Coaches are too quick to blame for the teams issues, more weight needs to rest on the shoulders of the players. Not all, but more...
December 30, 2008
4:22 p.m.
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Riversfan17 writes:
The Chargers will miss him.
December 30, 2008
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discer writes:
Dan Reeves always said that a head coach loses his effectiveness and the players don't 'hear' the message after 10 or 11 years in the same place. He took two different teams to Super Bowls maybe he know what he speaks of. I guess it just took Pat Bowlen three years to finally agree with Reeves assessment. I am sure Shanahan will have a chance to take another team to the big game! Good luck to Mike Shanahan and thanks for the Super Bowls. Bowlen better get it right with his next coach!
December 30, 2008
4:22 p.m.
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opusuno writes:
Hire him as offensive coordinator! :)
December 30, 2008
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Spencer writes:
I guess I wasn't the only one who had him on double secret probation this year. I don't know who we should get to replace him. College coaches never perform. How about the D Coordinator from the Giants?
December 30, 2008
4:23 p.m.
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Tizzy writes:
Glad. Move to Texas. Open your Shanahan's Steakhouse in Dallas. Time for a change in Denver.
December 30, 2008
4:23 p.m.
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dirkle writes:
For both Coach Shanahan and the organization, it is just time for a change. The Broncos can't live off their '97-'98 Elway / Terrell Davis-glory days forever and Shanahan can't seem to reclaim them.
Mike needs a year off and a fresh start, while Bowlen needs a good GM to build around Cutler. Good luck finding an equivalent coach, Pat -
the pickens are slim, and Cowher isn't going to work miracles anywhere.
December 30, 2008
4:23 p.m.
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chill134 writes:
I agree with the decision to fire Shanny. However, anyone who thinks Cutler needs to go should seek medical treatment.
We need someone who can get the D back on track. Cowher? It seems he's pretty interested in the Jets job but I hope i'm wrong. Next year could be pretty tough after looking at our schedule....
December 30, 2008
4:24 p.m.
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LFC writes:
Finally!
I have heard that people think he did a good job with all the people on IR. Backups in most cases did as well as the starters did, and our defense was no better than last year. Face it, Shanahan did great things with Elway and Terrell, but since then, with him in charge, the Broncos have slowly gone south. An 11-5 season, loss to Baltimore, 2 season of 10-6 lost to colts, and one of the worst 13-3 teams to reach the AFC championship in 2005. I have been in the stands for years, and that 2005 season people in the stands felt like it wasn't for real, AND it wasn't. We were always holding our breath hoping we would sneak into the superbowl.
Good move. Shanahan will go somewhere else, and I believe will do a good job. My hats off to him. I wish him luck. A really good evaluator of offensive talent, really bad in defense.
December 30, 2008
4:24 p.m.
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Squatch writes:
Maybe Shanahan to the Cowboys once Wade gets Canned We have heard of Shanahans fondness for Romo. Jerry Jones would pay top dollar.
December 30, 2008
4:25 p.m.
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ljsbronconm writes:
Who ever hires mike is going to get a heck of a coach don't care what anybody else says. Thanks for everything you did for the Bronco Country and the Back To Back trophies take them if you want.
December 30, 2008
4:25 p.m.
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acm writes:
Shanahan just got served!!!
December 30, 2008
4:26 p.m.
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des696 writes:
After Wayne Huizenga sells his portion of the Dolphins, the organization has to buy out the remainder of Bill Parcells' contract. He is then available to do whatever he wants.
I think Bowlen has him on speed dial...
December 30, 2008
4:26 p.m.
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NoMoe writes:
Madness!!! I am not a Broncos fan so this is not an emotional outburst but....
Madness!!!
Mr Shanahan, welcome to Cleveland! It ain't so bad....
December 30, 2008
4:28 p.m.
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DanGJR213 writes:
No way Bowlen will shell out Bill Cowher type money when he still owes Shanahan $20 million. He's gonna go young. Bad move! Get ready for a long few seasons.
December 30, 2008
4:30 p.m.
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arvada_mark writes:
I still think he deserves Coah of the Year for keeping us so competitive in lieu of the injuries & inexperience. This probably means that our 7th string RB will not be getting 2 TDs in next year's version of the most important game. Cower is about 4th or 5th on my list of potential replacements. #1: Kubes. I don't know what his contract status is, but I'd like him here. Next, if the Eagles don't want Andy Reid, we'll take him. We could use an "interim" for next year & wait for Holmgren. Just a thought, but I really want Kubes back.
December 30, 2008
4:30 p.m.
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COLibertarian writes:
Riversfan17
The Chargers will miss him? hmmm Shanahan or Turner.....Turner or Shanahan........
Would not surprise me to see him coaching the Chargers........
December 30, 2008
4:30 p.m.
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WYOCowboy writes:
Hey Faux noise, Yeah, like everyone, Repulicans sometimes lose their jobs. The difference between them and their democrat counterparts is that Republicans actually pick themselves up and go find a new one.
December 30, 2008
4:31 p.m.
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BRNCFAN69 writes:
This a sad day, Shanahan brought us memeories that no other coach had ever done, Not even Red Miller. So go on and rant all you Shanahan haters.... He did this true fan right and I wish him well. He was basically tossed like Dan was with the exception that it wasnt due to a quarterback. I hope that sorry excuse for a defensive coordiantor goes along with him.......
December 30, 2008
4:32 p.m.
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maverick7 writes:
I can't believe it. I thought Shanny would have died here being the coach. All of Bronco Nation needs to thank Mike Shanahan for putting together SB victories and giving respect to the Broncos the rest of the league would not. Thank you Mike, you will be strange not seeing you on the sideline.
RickJames77: I was thinking the same thing.
HC: Cowher, please go and get Cowher (he wants control of a team and this is the perfect fit with no GM right now)
OC: Mike Martz
DC: Eric Mangini (if he would do it)
Bowlen will have to do something quickly unless he is thinking of the DCo fromt he Titans?
I do agree though that they need a Defensive minded Head Coach, that would establish some D swagger.
December 30, 2008
4:33 p.m.
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cruz3d writes:
I'm shocked but not totally surprised by this. I agree with some of the other posters that after a time, a new voice/energy is needed within an organization. Those that think Shanny stinks are nuts. We were lucky to finish 8-8 this year considering the injuries. Be careful what you wish for but go with a fresh face. Everyone asking for Cowher or Marty; yes they're good coaches but I would rather have new blood.
The Steelers have done it with Tomlin and my choice would be Spagnoulo from the Giants. He's a defensive man, young with energy and enthusiasm. Bowlen is no dummy, he's been on the phones since Sunday night. I don't think he would've made this move without an ace up the sleeve. This was an 8-8 team with no defense. Would a bright, young coach want the Lions or the Broncos?
I wish Shanny the best of luck. He will make his next team a winner; guaranteed. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Jaguars drop Del Rio and hire a Florida man in Shanny.
December 30, 2008
4:34 p.m.
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TroyJGrice writes:
1) Aloof and disconnected
2) Surrounded by cast-offs, mercenaries and yes-men
3) Insisting that Xs and Os are more important than blocking and tackling
4) Insisting that Xs and Os are more important than Jimmys and Joes
It was a long time coming. He had a lot of years to get things right.
December 30, 2008
4:34 p.m.
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broncofan722 writes:
For all those Shanny lovers out there, have you been watching the same games I have for the past 10 years? Yes, he did a wonderful job in Denver but it was time for the change. He had lost his magic along with our home field advantage. Our teams have been soft for some time now. Kubiak was more important to all the success than everyone admitted.
December 30, 2008
4:34 p.m.
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RustyWon writes:
It's a fact that Bronco fans are a little different than most.
We consider it a failed season if we don't win the super bowl.
Hell, that's the way it should be, I think. Why settle for less?
It's also a fact that sometimes you need to start fresh in order to build anew. Shanahan's message no longer resonated in the locker room. It's like a car alarm in a parking lot - so much noise but no longer any substance.
It became the same thing year after year. Start 4-1 or 6-2 and then crap the bed in December. No good.
Shanahan will be hard to replace, but that's what they said about Tom Landry in Dallas and Chuck Noll in Pittsburgh.
The game passes you by eventually, unless you change with it, and Shanny didn't, or couldn't, change.
He'll end up with the Jets probably, because "The Chin" won't want to coach there.
Rumor has it Cowher promised the Roonies he wouldn't coach in the AFC.
Bartender! Fresh horses and cigars all around!
Go Broncos.
December 30, 2008
4:35 p.m.
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denfanincali writes:
To you who suggested throwing money at Gary Kubiak..."what are you freaking nuts!?!?!" Kubiak is Shanahan-lite. I LOVED Shanahan and think this was a ridiculously STUPID move. But if you think Kubiak has more football knowledge more offensive genius than Shanahan you are seriously mistaken. Everything Kubiak knows Shanahan taught him. But Shanahan didn't teach him everything HE knows...
Parcells is very unlikely. But, to be honest, is the only one who could take the stench of this news away. Anyone else will be an unknown. Who are we going to go after? Spags from the Giants? Ryan from Baltimore? That might work out but 1st year head-coaches rarely work out well. sigh.
December 30, 2008
4:36 p.m.
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RockyMts69 writes:
HOLY SMOKES!!!! I did'nt see that one coming...(I'm sure Shanahan did'nt either...)
Talk about a Mile High Melt Down!!!
Oh well, life goes on. He did give us what we all wanted, and that was winning back to back Super Bowls! So for that, I give him thanks. But maybe it's time to move in a new direction.
Cowher would bring a lot of energy to the team, he definately is a players coach, but is Bowlen's pocket deep enough?
Pete Carrol isn't going anywhere...
I think Tony Spagnuolo would be a good fit, but no matter who it is, the fan base is going to have to be patient!
December 30, 2008
4:38 p.m.
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LFC writes:
Scoobydoo!
You know nothing about QB's if you think Cutler is the one we should have gotten rid of.
4500 yards 25 td's and 18 int's.
Think if this guy gets a running game, and a defense that can stop somebody we will go to a super bowl. My gosh open your eyes. I suppose you think we should trade Champ too!
December 30, 2008
4:39 p.m.
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myerda00 writes:
WYOcowboy has it right, Bowlen would not have made this move unless he was set with someone else.
The offense is set. The team needs a defensive minded coach and talent evaluator (IMO).
Mr. Shanahan, you were the best Bronco coach, thanks.
December 30, 2008
4:39 p.m.
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Bonji writes:
It is about time.
December 30, 2008
4:40 p.m.
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Squatch writes:
Holmgren are you kidding me? He is even a worse evaluator of talent that Shanahan is.
Andy Reid cant control the team he has and you think he will fit in here.
If Bates is made the new head coach we will be the worst or 2nd worst team in the AFC West for 2 years.
December 30, 2008
4:40 p.m.
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Riversfan17 writes:
Well when I've seen him he has had this glazed look in his eyes. We don't want him on our sideline, but on the other side!
December 30, 2008
4:41 p.m.
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richarda writes:
Didn't think Bowlen would have the stones to fire the prodigal son -head coach for life. Shanahan is a perfect example of a coach staying too long as players were definitely tuning him out. If it weren't for John Elway the genius tag would have never been ascribed to Shanahan. Napoleon Shanahan was constantly finding scapegoats for the innumerable coaching changes, incredibly bad personnel decisions and the firing of the respected Ted Sundquist.
His arrogance precluded him from allowing the team to bring in a front office football man and now the Broncos can bring in a new face to lead them.
December 30, 2008
4:42 p.m.
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Buffs writes:
DUMBEST MOVE EVER!!!!!
Bowlen has no loyalty whatsoever. This man has given 21 years of his life to an organization and had many successful seasons. This year's team had injuries galore and as a result, the team cohesion was disrupted. As a former coach, chemistry amongst players is one of the key ingredients in developing an entire unit. Very difficult to have that with players coming in and going out like a revolving door due to injuries.
You don't assess a situation over a few short days and make a decision like this. If the Broncos won the 1 out of the last 3 games, this would most likely not have the same ending. If anything as an owner, you sit down with YOUR FRIEND of 21 seasons and talk about assistant coach staff changes or new player personnel strategies, not firing a man who has given so much to the organization.
Bowlen and company may think the grass is greener on the other side, but all will soon find out that Shanahan was and still is the face of the Denver Broncos. Better hope Bowlen does an exceptional job in the draft and free agent market, otherwise the team is going nowhere but down at a rapid speed!
December 30, 2008
4:45 p.m.
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Disgusted_in_Denver writes:
And it is unforgiveable to lose 4 games at home, without Ed Hockley's early X-mas gift, it should have been 5. Mile High is a joke, maybe we can get some pride back in here!
December 30, 2008
4:46 p.m.
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Spidey1 writes:
Well. . . not that we couldn't tell, but ScoobyDoo is an idiot. Get rid of Cutler?!? What a dork, Scooby. . . You have a young QB on an offense with ZERO running game on a team with even LESS defense. . . Let's see. . . how much pressure is on that QB? Well, basically HE has to score everytime the offense is on the field to even keep the team in the game. Name one other QB that could do that and finish 8-8. . . with a 31st (or 32nd after the S.D. game) rated defense?? Still waiting. . . . Oh! And still set franchise records?!?
Imagine what Cutler will do when they have a defense and he can play controlled football and not feel like he HAS to go out and make every single play himself! I'll take that anyday!!
Scooby, step out on your grandma's porch and have another pull on that funny cigarette. . . you funny man! Oh, it'll be sad not seeing your mind-boggling posts on here anymore as you follow Shanahan and are no longer a Broncos fan. C-ya! (Watch that door on the way out. . . )
December 30, 2008
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dgocoman writes:
I think it's the right call, although I would have left Shanahan as coach and found a new personnel man. Maybe Bowlen offered that and Shanny said it's either both or none? Anyhow, it is a very attractive job and they will have their pick of replacements. Maybe Parcells as GM/Personnel and Kubiak as HC.
December 30, 2008
4:46 p.m.
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Iceman7 writes:
thank you Mr Bowlen,
Now bring in a new coach that will inspire and motivate the team.
"Pete Carroll" would be worth the money...
December 30, 2008
4:47 p.m.
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Mark13 writes:
It will be funny when the new coach goes 8-8 and you tools who rode Shanny out of town will be on him too. Hire Cowher and watch the offense grind to a halt. At least 27 NFL teams just jumped through the roof imagining hiring Shanny.
December 30, 2008
4:49 p.m.
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Disgusted_in_Denver writes:
And it is inexcusable to lose 4 games at home in front of your home fans. If it were not for Ed Hockley's early X-mas gift, it would have been 5. Good riddance! Let's get some pride back in Mile High and develop that home field advantage again.
December 30, 2008
4:50 p.m.
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RockyMts69 writes:
ESPN just announced that Bill Cowher has "expressed" interest in coaching Denver...
December 30, 2008
4:54 p.m.
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Allseasonsfan writes:
Face it people. The game has passed Shanny by. In fact if you look at the Super Bowls in this century only one winner was coached by someone with an offensive side of the ball past. Gruden with Tampa Bay. It was his first year and they already had a set D and they have not been back since. The rules favor the offense, that is why you need a defensive mind at the helm (Wade Phillips is an exception).
December 30, 2008
4:56 p.m.
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ndbroncofan writes:
I think this is a little drastic. Why not fire his GM position and keep him as a head coach. I think he was stretched too thin. Now we have to replace 2 positions.
December 30, 2008
4:58 p.m.
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JSeifert writes:
HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!
December 30, 2008
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KCBRONCOFAN writes:
This hurts. But it wasn't just this year. Personnel decisions over the last several years have been the pits. Get Cowher before KC cans Edwards. Please, don't even think about Marty.
December 30, 2008
4:58 p.m.
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crami20529 writes:
The NY Yankees fired Joe Torre and missed the playoffs despite great talent. Many Broncos fans have been wanting this move and will soon find out just how difficult it is to find a great coach. Like the time that has elapsed between Elway and Cutler, a long while will elapse between Shanahan and our next great coach. Hopefully Bowlen and all of the fans who have been trashing Shanahan are prepared to endure a long and difficult road in the interim.
December 30, 2008
4:59 p.m.
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SDcat writes:
Holy...)(*&&* ....unbelieveable. S-T-O_O_P_I_D...stupid...
Shanahan did an amazing job getting them this far with all the injuries. I worry for Jay Cutler's future here, since he was handpicked by Shanahan.
Thanks for all the great years Mike!!
P.S. PLEASE don't go to the Chargers.....
December 30, 2008
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commoncents writes:
Sarah Palin for coach!!!
December 30, 2008
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ColoradoSportsFaninTexas writes:
Wow...This is a shocker....Well, you Shanahan haters got what you wished for...This will set the organization back at least 3 or 4 years....
Well, it will take maybe 3 seconds for his phone to ring...Browns would be my bet.....
Good Luck Shanny...Thanks for all you have done for Denver....
December 30, 2008
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TroyJGrice writes:
I hear Dan Reeves is available
December 30, 2008
5:02 p.m.
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drkenne writes:
No doubt, he's a good coach and will end up coaching some place else...but he's made many questionable personnel decisions and it looks like he no longer can motivate the team. It was a good run while it lasted. Thanks Coach and good luck.
December 30, 2008
5:03 p.m.
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happypappy3434 writes:
Every one looks at things so black and white or right and wrong,,,I give Kuddos to Bowlen for making this gutsy move, It had to be a difficult decision. Shanahan will always be remembered for the good things he was a part of, and the Super Bowls victories. It was time for a new direction with this organization, things had become stale and very predictable. The personnel decisions by Shanahan were the reason they had a non NFL caliber defense and Bowlen had to feel it was time to get a GM in here especially with all the upcoming draft picks. If he can land a Bill Cowher it would be a good move, but anyone who thinks they are going to the Super Bowl next year needs to be re-evaluated. It will take some time to get this defense rebuilt and find a good running back, but it is exciting to have some change and a new direction. Mike Shanahan will have the opportunity to coach probably even next season. I think he is an above average coach, I do not think he is an excellent coach, however I do believe if he goes somewhere and his only responsibility is to coach with a good GM he can be successful. I thought his so called offensive genius resulted in a lot of yardage but very little points over the years and I think that will be his downfall wherever he ends up. Sincerely, I hope the Broncos are again a contender in this league in a few years and that Shanahan has success where he ends up.
December 30, 2008
5:03 p.m.
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Mark13 writes:
It will be funny when the new coach goes 8-8 and you tools who rode Shanny out of town will be on him too. Hire Cowher and watch the offense grind to a halt
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8-8 is generous, try 4-12
December 30, 2008
5:04 p.m.
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SollyLipps writes:
I hope Shanny goes to the JETS!!!
December 30, 2008
5:08 p.m.
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hallandnash writes:
I'm shocked .. I love Shanny, but the reality is 1 playoff win since '99 .. and a Defence that's been awful for 7+ years now. It's time for a change.
December 30, 2008
5:08 p.m.
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baylinorcrush writes:
Smartest move ever:
Shany had run its course in Denver, after the super bowl wins; one playoff win in ten years. In the NFL, it simply doesn't cut it.
I am so excited at the options in front of us for a new GM and coach. This is an excellent year with a large pool of both.
Imagine , this is the first legitimate time that we can actually believe there might be a chance to build us a defense. With Shany, there was no chance, it was stalemate on that side of the ball.
This will be the most coveted jobs for GM's and coaches in the league. Wait and watch, great things will come out of it.
After 14 years, new blood was needed at the helm. The players haven't been responding to Shany in years.
I' M SO EXCITED, WHAT AN OFF SEASON THIS WILL BE!
December 30, 2008
5:10 p.m.
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Acemon writes:
Send the Broncos packing with a Nugget under each arm.
December 30, 2008
5:11 p.m.
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BUCKSHOTT2006 writes:
While this news is a bit shocking, Pat Bowlen did the right thing by firing Shanahan. The magic was clearly gone from the Super Bowl years, and this year really made it clear that he was not going to turn things around. Plus, Shanahans poor decisions in evaluating both draft and free agent talent over the years cannot be overlooked, as well as his "revolving door" strategy of hiring/firing defensive coaches. Finally, one must not forget that it was Dan Reeves who largely put together the pool of talent that won the Super Bowls; in many ways, Shanahan only reaped the benefits from Reeves' personnel decisions. Pat Bowlen has never been afraid to spend money, and I feel confident that he will hire the very best coach and staff to make Denver a force to be feared in the NFL.
December 30, 2008
5:12 p.m.
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tonyfromjersey writes:
It sounds like Bowlen wanted to fire Slowick, and Shanahan said if you do that then I go too. Mike, thanks for all you did for us, it will not be forgotten. But we need a front office/personnel type to pick some defensive players. For too many years we have been a soft, undersized team, and thats got to change. On offense you were great, no doubt about it.
For all you fans that want Andy Reid, or Mangini, get your head examined. Spagnolo would be great absolutely great fit here though, I hope he is being considered.
December 30, 2008
5:12 p.m.
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MrWright writes:
I will miss Shanny, he was an amazing coach, this is sad news! My hope is that we get a younger innovative coach, much like Shanny back in the day, a defensive minded coach would be amazing. This could be a great move if Bowlen picks the right man for the job.....but letting go will take awhile.......Good luck Shanny you will have a job by the morning....I wish you well!!!
December 30, 2008
5:12 p.m.
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Acemon writes:
Send the Broncos packing with a Nugget under each arm!
December 30, 2008
5:13 p.m.
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fishbug writes:
This is a bummer. At least we know he won't be going to Oakland!!
December 30, 2008
5:14 p.m.
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cdmdenver writes:
RickJames77 writes:
And I'd like to introduce the new Denver Broncos coaching staff:
Head Coach - Bill Cowher
Offensive Coordinator - Mike Martz
Defensive Coordinator - Romeo Crennel
NOT Rocket Science Pat...
Just get proven winners, and a good
GM that can harness the power and
take the Broncos back to the SuperBowl!
All you Shanahan lovers, it was time for
Big Mike to move on!! Long past due.
December 30, 2008
5:14 p.m.
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Hicky2 writes:
I assume Mike would not give up personnel decision authority? Otherwise I'm not so sure this makes much sense for the Broncos. Stinky team, some dry years but he's still one of the top 4-5 coaches in the league.
December 30, 2008
5:16 p.m.
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denverdon66 writes:
Bad bad bad move.shanny had us to the brink of a playoff spot with the use of 9 rbs and a ton of d injuries.I would have given him another year.I think we will take 2 steps back next year since the o will be a new one.And the o wasn't the problem.He should have given up his vp duties and just coached thats what he does best.Wonder if cowboys are now interested that would be interesting game next year.
December 30, 2008
5:17 p.m.
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nmbronco1 writes:
I'm sad to see Mike Shanahan go as head coach as he gave Denver a good 14 seasons and has left a top offense for whomever gets the HC job.
It's easy to see the possibility of change being good, and perhaps it will be. But please don't tell me Cowher is the answer for the Broncos. Never liked him as a coach - worse yet, my wife hates the guy and would ridicule me mercilessly should he come to the Broncos. ;) Now Mike Martz as OC would be interesting, combined with a defensive minded head coach...
Still think we were a good draft and free agency period away from bolstering the defense enough to be an elite NFL team. Never thought about Shanahan being fired though...
Thank you, Mike Shanahan, for all that you have done for the Denver Broncos through the many years!
December 30, 2008
5:17 p.m.
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HollyGoLightly writes:
Well, we're screwed!
December 30, 2008
5:17 p.m.
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baylinorcrush writes:
To all of you out there who say this was a bad move: You think a football game can be won on one side of the ball?
Shanahan has been given every opportunity to build us into a playoff contending team with all the power at his diposal. In the last ten years he delivered one, ONE, playoff victory! All we've had to show for is a good offense and a horendous defense. Get real, his time had come, the future is now.
December 30, 2008
5:18 p.m.
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kjw56 writes:
The way that the game went against the Chargers, Bills, and Carolina; I'm not so surprised that Bowlen fired Shanahan. Heck, I would to if my team gave up a three game lead with three games to go. Shanahan's job is to use the talent he has with him, just like anyone else. The Broncos had talent shooting out of its rear end, and Shanahan blew it. I understand it's a hard job to be a coach in the NFL, however this is what Mike signed up for. He flat out didn't do his job in the past three years. Hence the 9-7 season, 7-9 season, and 8-8 season.
As for the future, prepare for a rough three years before we reach that successful era of the Denver Broncos again.
December 30, 2008
5:18 p.m.
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criticatlarge writes:
Hope Mike comes back coaching a team that knocks the Broncos out of the playoffs. He'll then have poetic justice for this humiliation.
December 30, 2008
5:19 p.m.
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Buffalojoe writes:
It certainly is a shock but since Shanahan was responsible for all personnel decisions, the buck has to stop with him. Perhaps being all things diluted his coaching effectiveness. The defense was terrible without a clear field leader (like Al Wilson), but Shanahan put those people on the field. Not to give Slowik a pass but he had to coach who was there.
I hope this is also a wakeup call to the other coaches and to the players. Your owner isn't just sitting by in his raccoon coat. He wants results. Either Cowher or Schottenheimer would be great to bring in. Kubiak wanted to go home to Texas and I don't think he's an option. Elway isn't a good option either because he's been out of the day-to-day stuff for too long. Cowher would be better because he was able to take the Steelers deep into the playoffs more than once and knows how to fire up a team. Marty's teams always choked in the first round of the post-season. Bowlen wants a championship and he's tired of waiting. I think he'd be willing to bring a top coach in.
Shanahan brought respectability to Denver and made the Broncos one of the elite teams. I'm very grateful for what he did. Unfortunately, all good things must end. Best of luck and thank you.
December 30, 2008
5:21 p.m.
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bronco_in_exile writes:
Think about it: The Mastermind sees the team in the tank w/ dim prospects for the foreseeable future. Time to move on. $21M parachute is in place. Confrontation with Bowlen is sure to gain an all-expenses-paid exit. Plenty of time to shop for a new job. He’s good enough to be very picky. He’s smart enough to let someone else clean up the mess. No question: Mastermind.
December 30, 2008
5:22 p.m.
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Jubei writes:
denfanincali, didn't the Ravens, Dolphins and Falcons get to the playoffs this year with first-year head coaches?
I do agree with your point regarding Kubes, though. We need a coach that will basically leave the offense alone and focus on the defense.
December 30, 2008
5:25 p.m.
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kidski52 writes:
Wow! I thought a change was coming, but not this one. Shanahan was a jack of all trades, master of none recently. I figured Bowlen would have him drop a few of his duties to just coach, with major input to the other areas for at least a year or two. I am not a lover or hater of the coach, but I can assure you that he won't stay unemployed long. He will return and revenge this, just ask Al.
December 30, 2008
5:25 p.m.
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Vaildude writes:
Finally!!!
Didn't think Bowlen had the "cajones" to actually do it....Maybe Mike can bus tables at his new steakhouse...Theres a theme that's never been tried....Celebrity steakhouse restaurant? About as imaginative as his play calling....
Cowher ...NO NO NO! Took him forever in Pittsburgh to assemble a team...he's going to NY
Lets see...how bout Biff??? naaaah he's busy with his restaurant and the defunct Arena Footbal League.
How bout we get Wade back?He's about to be unemployed too.....naaahhh!!
Pete Carroll would be crazy to leave UCLA and he won't but he'd be my choice....
Wheover it is ....trade everybody on that team and start over!!!
December 30, 2008
5:26 p.m.
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mrdux777 writes:
Funny, I remember when Reeves was let go and a lot of Bronco fans were crying gloom and doom like they are now. Shanahan came in, won 2 Super Bowls and everyone was like "Dan who?"
I'm not a Shanahan hater by any stretch; the guy is a brilliant coach and he is one of the main reasons we have 2 Lombardi trophies. I'm not happy to see him go but I do think it was time for a change. Will the Broncos be better off without him? Only time will tell but again, it was time for a change. This team was getting awfully predictable and a lot of that is coaching. Granted, injuries, dropped passes, and poor tackling were also hallmarks in a season gone awry, but it seemed there was some passion lacking on the sidelines as well.
This will be one of those situations where if Shanahan takes a head coaching job somewhere else, whatever team it is will excel and Shanahan will be in top form; I just don't see that happening if he would have stayed with the Broncos.
That said, I think Cowher would be a good fit for this team. I definitely don't see the offense grinding to a halt, but I do see the defense improving. I guess we'll see what happens; should be interesting. Kudos to Bowlen for making a difficult but gutsy decision. And the best to coach Shanahan; thanks for the memories and for a great ride.
December 30, 2008
5:26 p.m.
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ORBroncoFan53 writes:
WYOCowboy, great response too Faux Noise, leave it to a DemocRAT to show his true colors and reveal that it wasn't Shanahan's coaching he didn't like it was that he was a REPUBLICAN. Fake noise how about Nancy Pellosi for offensive coordinator, Barney Frank at defensive coordinator and Ted Kennedy for head coach.
December 30, 2008
5:27 p.m.
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LFC writes:
For those that think Bowlen had no loyalty.
Look at it this way. Most coaches would have been fired after the second destruction of the Broncos by the Colts. But not Shanahan, Bowlen stuck with him, then shortly afterwards you had the make believe 13-3 season that happened on luck alone, until Pitts showed us our true defensive colors, and a QB that can't win without a lead (plummer).
Shanahan couldn't get fired after the 2005 season, however lucky it was, Bowlen may have had the shanny glasses on and decided to go with him. Then you have the last 3 years. That defense has been on the decline for much longer than that. I'd say since 2000 there has not been any improvement. However, what is covered up during the super bowl years is that our defense stunk then too! We had the worst yards per rush against our defense back then too!
December 30, 2008
5:28 p.m.
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sign_floyd writes:
Mistake on Shanahans and Bowlens part. Shanahan should have given up some control to get a top defensive coordinator. Bowlen now has to pay 2 sets of coaches, the fired and the hired, and find a coach that can use the offensive personnel. And unless Bowlen reaches deep, you can kiss signing big name defensive free agents goodbye now.
I really wanted to see if Shanahan could pull it out and win another superbowl. Has any coach won a superbowl, had to completely rebuild, and then win another? Shula almost did, but I can't think of any that did.
December 30, 2008
5:28 p.m.
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Winthrop writes:
The bleeding has stopped Bronco Sheep!
The time is NOW; a real GM and Head Coach that can fix the Defencive mess the Shan-na-sham has made.
December 30, 2008
5:28 p.m.
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joggle writes:
This is a surprise to me. I thought the Broncos had a decent shot next year of improvement since lightning doesn't strike twice and they were bound to not get over half a dozen injuries at one position next year. Defense was still iffy of course, but if they had another bad D year I could totally see him getting fired.
Thanks for the memories Shanahan. For all of the other spoiled fans, remember we could do a lot worse than 8-8 and hardly any controversy (see the Bengals where it seems half their team has had trouble with the police, a much worse and consistently bad record, etc or Detroit who can't win no matter what).
December 30, 2008
5:30 p.m.
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Jubei writes:
Mark13, I would somewhat expect 8-8 from a new coach. 8-8 (24-24 over the last three seasons) from a guy who's been here as long as Shanahan is not going to cut it. Especially when he had total control.
Maybe Bowlen offered to let him retain his job minus the GM duties, but his ego balked at the idea. Either way, I think a change is needed. The defense has regressed each of the last three seasons. We need to stop the bleeding NOW.
December 30, 2008
5:31 p.m.
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DJRMTNSPF writes:
Tough one. He is a great head coach and offensive coordinator. He needed to take a title change and recognize his areas of weakness. His GM abilities for defense are lacking and until Denver got Brandon and Eddie, his WR choices were lacking. Also, remember Jake Plummer.
December 30, 2008
5:33 p.m.
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baylinorcrush writes:
If nothing else, this news has blown this blog thing outta sight.
It's like 5 blogs every three minutes!
It looks like wether you like it or not, Bowlen has made the right move and secured his audience for next year already.
December 30, 2008
5:34 p.m.
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pete10000ft writes:
Five years too late...
December 30, 2008
5:35 p.m.
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goldof71 writes:
Anyone heard of TROY CALHOUN - - if Mr Bowlen wants to go young, then TROY is the man - - someone said earlier if you can coach, you can coach at any level - - TROY can coach!
December 30, 2008
5:36 p.m.
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Dezmond22 writes:
Shanahan was a victim of his very bad personnel decisions on defense.
A great offensive minded coach that consistently had his offensives in the top 10 every year, even this year with 7 different running backs, was incredible to say the least.
But on the other side of the coin, he was absolutely horrible in selecting defensive talent or relied too much on others to make those horrible decisions both in the draft and free agency.
The insane contract bonuses given to defensive players that have contributed absolutely nothing, including Bly, had to have some ramifications on the decision made today.
My fear is that he may be going to San Diego after they lose this Sunday. They have the ingredients for a great offense and sure their defense isn't very good this year, but they have a DC in Rivera, will get Merriman back next year and only need a few tweaks in their secondary which can be fixed through the draft.
Don't get me wrong I don't like the Bolts but you can't deny how far ahead they are of Denver right now.
In Broncoland, next year is a write-off no matter who is in charge, just look at the schedule. Maybe they can rebound in 2010 after a couple good drafts (fingers crossed).
Thanks for the memories Mike. The Superbowls were great and you were a big part of that, but that was 10 years ago and times have changed.
December 30, 2008
5:38 p.m.
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bassman writes:
Why the heck do we want to hire Martz as coordinator? He will put Cutler in the shotgun with no protection and abandon the run. These are the things Shanny did recently and a big reason why we lost the last few games.
December 30, 2008
5:39 p.m.
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ZiggyJ writes:
I hear Dan Reeves is available ...
December 30, 2008
5:41 p.m.
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BULLDOG92563 writes:
It is a wonderful day! Im transplanted out here in Chargette land and I am sick and tired of being a second rate team. Shanahan has been crap since Elway left. We won two rings because we had four HOFs on that team. Rod Marinelli could have won two rings with those two teams. Bring in Cowher, or anyone for that matter. Shanahan has no idea how to coach in this era. It's not all about offense. Name one team, in the last ten years, that has won a super bowl without a great defense. Nice draft picks too! Ashley Lelie really panned out didn't he. Lelie or Steven Jackson? Nice job moron! Go Colts!!!!!!!
December 30, 2008
5:43 p.m.
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DJRMTNSPF writes:
Tough one. He is a great head coach and offensive coordinator. He needed to take a title change and realize his areas of weakness. He is lacking when it comes to GM responsibilities, especially for the defensive side. Some of his offensive choices in the past 6 or so years have been questionable (e.g. Plummer, Walker, and several receivers.)
December 30, 2008
5:43 p.m.
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Cutler6 writes:
Listen folks you need a GM first to get the personal then the coach, Cowher ain't it
December 30, 2008
5:45 p.m.
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brester writes:
Everything I hated about the Broncos, Elway, Shanahan, and Shannon Sharpe (We call him "Mumbles" for his sports casting career), all gone. As a Chiefs fan, I am saddened... Hopefully both of our teams can hire competitive coaches to make the AFC at least somewhat enjoyable to watch.
December 30, 2008
5:46 p.m.
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Cutler6 writes:
Need a GM first players are the main problem that doesn't fit Cowher's bill, don't get another coach who wants ultilmate control
December 30, 2008
5:47 p.m.
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IndependentSpirit writes:
Marty ball anyone? Just imagine how motivated he'll be against the chargers.
December 30, 2008
5:51 p.m.
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RobertR487 writes:
It has to be said: The Broncos won the Super Bowl under Shanahan with the hall of fame quarterback John Elway. Without Elway, Shanahan was a so so coach, with a winning percentage a little over .500, and ONE playoff win in 10 years. TEN YEARS was FAR more than enough time for Shanahan to show whether he could rebuild the team into a championship contender without Elway. He clearly demonstrated that he could NOT. Move on!
December 30, 2008
5:51 p.m.
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ChargerMan writes:
This guy needed to go. He was smug, arrogant, and possessed a sense of entitlement about his position. As a Charger Fan though, I'm sorry to see someone leave the Buncos who is 30 years behind in his thinking. Oh, and one more thing: HAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHA
December 30, 2008
5:53 p.m.
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jefferson3 writes:
Yes!!!! Don't let your restaurant kick you on the way out!!!
December 30, 2008
5:59 p.m.
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Jubei writes:
Go get Spagnuolo. Who (besides the Pats fans) didn't enjoy the all-out assault on Tom Brady in the SB? The dude knows defense, and seems like an OK guy.
We really do need a GM, though. If this is the beginning of the purge, then let's do it right. I think Shanahan will be holding the door for Slowik and O'Brien at the very least. I would like to see Dennison stay on at least as the OL coach. Give Bates another year as long as he quits calling bubble screens every other play.
December 30, 2008
6:02 p.m.
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singularity99 writes:
Darn, and just after building that 40,000+ square foot mansion! What's a guy to do without a bowling alley in his home? Let's not forget that restaurant venture!
December 30, 2008
6:08 p.m.
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upacreek333 writes:
Sweet God... this could be really great, or really, really crappy... I honestly thought that making the playoffs this year with such a young team and a rebuilt roster would be a real feat... but watching them roll over the last three weeks gave me pause, and I'm glad Bowlen had the stones to make the move, because I'm not sure I would have!
That said, the real challenge comes not from axing Shanny... it comes from finding a replacement who can take a team of young, talented players and build a new Denver dynasty. I think Cowher is a great choice, but I also believe Billick, Mariuci or even Shottenheimer would be great picks. It's a target-rich environment, so Bowlen should take his time and find the right guy.
Shanny will land on his feet (guarantee you they've already called from San Francisco) and he'll build a winner elsewhere. I think things here just got TOO comfortable. I certainly don't wish him ill, and I hope he does well... he's the best we've ever had, and he'll be tough to replace. Ideally, he'll move to the college ranks and become the next Pete Carroll... Good luck, Shanny.
More importantly, good luck Pat... we're counting on you to make a good call on this one. With the young talent we have, we cannot afford another Wade Phillips era, so get it right the first time!
December 30, 2008
6:11 p.m.
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LadyBird112 writes:
Wow I heard some DJ say it on the radio today but I thought he was joking--oh well then. Life goes on.
December 30, 2008
6:13 p.m.
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Mile_Hi_Dave writes:
Thanks for all the fond memories Mike! I wish you nothing but the best in at your future head-coaching position (as long as it's in the NFC). Slowik should have been the one fired!
After 9 winning seasons, 7 playoff appearances and a 146-89 record, I think the right(respectful) move here would have been for Bowlen to ask Mike to step away from the GM duties, maybe bring in Parcells as GM. Mike did a great job scouting for offensive talent, but his defenses have, pretty much always, stunk. Mike wasn't able to scout and hire defensive coaches as well as he could running backs (exception: Clarrett). I hope Bowlen is willing to open his wallet and get us Cowher and get a defensive coach in here. If I remember correctly, Romeo Crennel was responsible for New England's defensive comeupance...if he isn't offered a head coaching position....he would be a good fit. Just my opinion...thanks for letting me spout it! Happy New Year everyone!
December 30, 2008
6:14 p.m.
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arvada_mark writes:
I suppose Holmgren taking 2 different teams to the SB is poor coaching. And Andy Reid, well, he certainly doesn't know how to motivate his team in December. Does he? So yeah, you're right, those guys would be horrible options. And neither of them have ever had a QB worth a crap. Tell me, what color is the sky in your world?
December 30, 2008
6:15 p.m.
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bartmanusa writes:
Wow, just what I've been saying the last half of this year has come of age, I really think Mike did a comendable job, but offense and play calling has gone further south than the birds. My choice: Jon Gruden/ also an ex-raider coach (with much more emphasis on the big offense) he also was fired by Big Al, and can beat him twice a year ( as Broncos coach) He is much younger, smart and has great potential. Also bring in an NFC defensive guru to weed out worthless players I.E> Dre Bly etc. and ramp up serious pressure on QBs. John Elway would be an interesting addition to the staff somewhere as well.
December 30, 2008
6:16 p.m.
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David_R writes:
Forget out of work former head coaches. Make a clean break and fresh start with new talent.
Thanks for the memories Mike; best of luck to you in the future.
December 30, 2008
6:18 p.m.
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mccaffreyfan writes:
It is a firm rule in the news media industry that you must find the worst picture of a person if the story is negative.
December 30, 2008
6:18 p.m.
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bigd7 writes:
Cower? if he is so great why are the steelers doing so well with out him? It took him 15 years to win the superbowl, I dont want to wait that long.
Get Kubs back at all costs. We have never been the same since the true mastermind left.
Going to miss shanny
December 30, 2008
6:22 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
Scoobydoo, God, get real. Where did you get your education in football talent? Bozo's 101? Cutler had a very good year with very little of a running game that would have made the offense more balanced. Just say no to drugs. Lay off those "Scooby snacks".
December 30, 2008
6:24 p.m.
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bigd7 writes:
forget cower! if he is so great, why are the steelers doing so well without him?
We will miss Shanny badly, unless we can get the true mastermind back.
GET KUBS at all costs!!!
December 30, 2008
6:26 p.m.
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Mile_Hi_Dave writes:
After 9 winning seasons, 7 playoff appearances and a 146-89 record, I think the right(respectful) move here would have been for Bowlen to ask Mike to step away from the GM duties, maybe bring in Parcells as GM. Mike did a great job scouting for offensive talent, but his defenses have, pretty much always, stunk. Mike wasn't able to scout and hire defensive coaches as well as he could running backs (exception: Clarrett). I hope Bowlen is willing to open his wallet and get us Cowher and get a defensive coach in here. If I remember correctly, Romeo Crennel was responsible for New England's defensive comeupance...if he isn't offered a head coaching position....he would be a good fit. Just my opinion...thanks for letting me spout it! Happy New Year
December 30, 2008
6:31 p.m.
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fromCOtoAZ writes:
first of all the sky isn't falling nor are we destined for the super bowl, simply because we don't know who the replacement will be. look at the dolphins and the falcons. both teams were in terrible disarray last year and both were at rock bottom. and in one year - with the right coaches and players - they made incredible strides and are in the playoffs. now seriously... is this team THAT much of a mess compared to those teams? this team has some serious issues on defense, and their drafts have been horrible in recent memory - Cutler and Royal notwithstanding. Shanahan's seeming unwillingness to let go of any control of this team has lead them to mediocrity at best, and his putting the blame on everyone else but him, firing coaches (the ones he hired in the first place), makes me wonder if he has/had a viable plan anymore or if he was just spitballing to see what would stick. but none of this means we're gonna turn into the Lions, people, so get a grip. none of this means it's gonna take 5 years to turn this around. Pat Bowlen is one of the most respected owners in the league and i'm sure he will do all the he can to find a suitable replacement, and perhaps one that will take us back to a championship level. you don't know what's gonna happen, so just let it play out.
December 30, 2008
6:34 p.m.
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NDeeZ writes:
No kidding, Dave-R:
NFL is THE most incestuous workplace EVER!
Juuuuust keep hiring the same 36 guys for 32 jobs.
December 30, 2008
6:34 p.m.
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bronco_fan_no_matter_how_painful writes:
ok so many of you have heard me ask for Cowher the past few days!!! make it happen...it is the perfect fit, bring in who Cowher wants for player personnel and get an attitude on defense and power football...this will be great for Cutler!!! this team can now win! thank god yeah
the witch is dead
December 30, 2008
6:35 p.m.
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bronco_fan_no_matter_how_painful writes:
no marty ball
December 30, 2008
6:36 p.m.
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bronco_fan_no_matter_how_painful writes:
cowher, cowher, cowher, cowher, cowher, cowher
December 30, 2008
6:37 p.m.
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rowdy1 writes:
say it ain't so! maybe Kubiak will come back from Houston?
December 30, 2008
6:40 p.m.
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Wagthedog1001 writes:
Thanks for the memories Shanny, but you don't walk on water and you can't keep firing defensive coaches.
Time for a change. Nothing left to lose after this year.
It may take a GM and a coach this time.
Call Gary Kubiak.
December 30, 2008
6:45 p.m.
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12thmaniac writes:
Very, very, very, poor decision. Shanahan is a hall of fame coach. He was rebuilding this team and that takes time. They are only 3 years removed from AFC Championship Game. Most the players on this team have 3 or less years experience and yet they showed lots of promise. The defense needs better players sure but the team does not need a new head coach. Most teams in the league right now would give up their coach for Shanahan, there will be teams that have good coaches that might fire that coach to bring in Shanahan, after all his resume is better than any coach right now except for Billicheck. For those who are looking for Cower to come in don't count on it. 1 he just turned down both the Jets and browns and told them I am not coaching again take me off your list. The coach that comes in will be from our current staff sine they also are all under contract, or a nobody because we don't have the money to pay Shanahan 7 million a year that we still owe him and also pay high profile coach at the same time. Because of Shanhans new mansion he will probably take a year off and just collect a check without the stress while he watches this team completely self destruct under a new and inexperienced coach. The all the star offensive players who have express their discuss with the decision will leave once their contracts are up which Cutler, Marshall, Sheftler, Dumervill, are all up at the end of 2009. Shanahan will then come back and go to KC and take 3 out of the 4 since we can not franchise all of them and KC will then walk all over us for years to come.
December 30, 2008
6:52 p.m.
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12thmaniac writes:
For those who are looking for Cower to come in don't count on it. 1 He just turned down both the Jets and browns and told them I am not coaching again take me off your list. 2 The coach that comes in will be from our current staff since they also are all under contract, or a nobody because we don't have the money to pay Shanahan 7 million a year that we still owe him and also pay high profile coach at the same time. Because of Shanhans new mansion he will probably take a year off and just collect a check without the stress while he watches this team completely self destruct under a new and inexperienced coach. The all the star offensive players who have express their discuss with the decision will leave once their contracts are up which Cutler, Marshall, Sheftler, Dumervill, are all up at the end of 2009. Shanahan will then come back and go to KC and take 3 out of the 4 since we can not franchise all of them and KC will then walk all over us for years to come.
December 30, 2008
6:54 p.m.
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Outside_the_Box writes:
I hope the Broncos had a plan in mind when they fired him. Its VERY hard to find a good coach. The last thing we want to be is the Raiders, who have a new coach every month it seems like.
December 30, 2008
7:18 p.m.
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DallasKing94 writes:
Breaking News, Denver Broncos hired Dan Hawkins from Colorado University to head coach the team.
December 30, 2008
7:38 p.m.
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scoobydoo writes:
To all of you who didnt like what I said well to bad. You need to lay off the drugs and stuff dynamitedave because you sure seem to get offended when talking about Jay Cutler. They messed up when they let Elam go and now letting Mike go how stupid can Pat Bowlen be, he must have been drinking all nite. So you quit eating scooby snacks, and make sure when you walk out your door it dont hit you where the sun dont shine. Get a life and stick to your broncos. They wont be worth a crap next year. Good Luck Mike.
December 30, 2008
7:41 p.m.
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mgordon86 writes:
This is a bad move. They owe him a ton of money. I will miss his evil eye.
December 30, 2008
7:51 p.m.
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isamudysan writes:
to all those haters out there we better be 16-0 next season or imma fried ur arses!!! if we have a losing season ya'll better not be asking for the head coach's head cuz if he goes then u should too. biatches.
my prediction: broncos top 5 picks in the next 5 yrs.
December 30, 2008
7:52 p.m.
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Vector049 writes:
who cares.
December 30, 2008
7:55 p.m.
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Roymance writes:
This makes me happy. No one deserves to stay at head coach after losing twice at home in three years to sub .500 teams with the playoffs on the line, and the other year in there being below .500. No excuses this isn't 5th grade math homework. bye. People actually think Bowlen has a hundred million dollar business and doesn't have a plan for it. Get real. Sure it may take a few years and a couple of coaches but we were going nowhere with shanahan. In 10 years he makes it to an AFC championship game once and blows the team up the next year because they couldn't get any better? Before kordell cutler, i mean jay stewart (how many picks can you throw inside the 20?), took the lead of this team the record was 22-9 in a little over a year and a half. 2.5 years later 17-20. Your arrogance got the best of you mike (betrand berry, trevor price, the browncos, Dale carter, clarett, etc.). This move puts the "pro-bowlers" on the line too. You turn over the ball three time between the two of you in a win and in situation and the defense gets blamed for it all. The defense is terrible, but you guys are not winners, not yet.
December 30, 2008
7:57 p.m.
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johnb writes:
kubiac. Cowers chin is too big.
December 30, 2008
8:01 p.m.
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desertwind writes:
No tears here.
Shanahan had a great run when he had Elway and Davis, a decent D and a play-caller in Kubiak, but remove those elements and he became the man behind the curtain that you shouldn't pay attention to. His personnel choices are a joke. So good luck Mike, it was fun while it lasted. Now who do we get as the coach of change?
December 30, 2008
8:02 p.m.
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BroncofaninDuckland writes:
2 years ago, we were 7-4 and Shanny benched Jake Plummer for Culter. We finished the season 9-7 and missed the playoffs in hopes of a brighter future. At one point we were 5-1 that year and out defense hadn't allowed a touchdown in 19 quarters. I ask you, why did Shanny give up on that season? The end of that year he cleaned house on the d side sending Gerrard Warren and others packing. To me, that was the beginning of the end. I'm not saying JP was the long term answer, but he won a lot of games for this team. When Culter grows up, he might also, but it will take 3-5 years to repair the damage of Shanny's poor drafts in 2006-07. Too much power can be a bad thing.
December 30, 2008
8:03 p.m.
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mastermind8977 writes:
24-24 out of our last 3 seasons..... Its about time we start enjoying late season wins, not late season melt downs. I enjoyed what Mike brought us, but it was time, actually i think a year over due. Parcells would be a great VP or GM here. We have the pieces in place just need a defensive Identity, and a no nonsense approach. Lets get Champ a ring, he has been a warrior for us, and probably has 2-3 good seasons left. Get rid of dead weight (Dre bly, Dewayne Robertson, Mccree, Webster, Prater), lets give Moss and Crowder a chance under the right scheme to prove their worth. I think Barret will be a great safey, and Woodyard should be starting over Boss. Draft a Great MLB and FS, make some SMART free agent aquistions defensively. Go for Peppers or Haynesworth, or both, we have the cap room, peppers along side of Haynesworth, Marcus and Elvis, your secondary alreay has gotten better with no moves back there. Our D line needs help, spell these guys with Moss and Crowder and i think its a sucessful recipe.
December 30, 2008
8:08 p.m.
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FTR writes:
I will post later after all the Haters get there time in!
I can not belive the numbers posting negitive posts for a coach of this caliber!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Back to Back Super Bowls!!! Ranked #2 in Offense this year!!!!!
FTR
December 30, 2008
8:09 p.m.
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arthistorybabe writes:
mrtaco - that is awesome!
December 30, 2008
8:10 p.m.
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OPETH72 writes:
Bad move. Funny how in the past, Shanny had turned the knife on his D coordinators (for some good reasons, and for some bad), but when he finally stands up for one and appears to be ready to look at things in a new light, he is booted. Oh well, it is done now and not as though any of us really had a say in it (even though some of you clearly believe otherwise). For all of you chanting Cowher's name and hell, all the other obvious names that even an 8 year old football fan could rattle off: wake up. It is not anywhere close to that simple. There are plenty of variables here. Whether Bates stays or goes is a huge one. What offensive scheme gets implemented is another one. That list goes on and on and on. Just bringing in a "name" is not going to make this a better team. You guys just rejoiced at a "name" being kicked out. I would like to hear Rod Smith's take on this decision. I think Shanny could have lured Rod into something here at some point. Something another coach won't find value in. I guess for me this all boils down to I am a Broncos fan. That won't change. However, I will follow whatever team Shanny ends up on and root for them whenever it is not directly against the Broncos. Same thing I do with Kubiak and the Texans. Best of luck Mike. You will be missed. More than some of these people here seem to know yet.
December 30, 2008
8:13 p.m.
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dikshenari writes:
Nice to see Bowlen has finally grown a pair and determined that he, not the "mastermind" of yesteryear, owns the team. Shanahan wasn't nearly "the mastermind" that he was since "you know who" retired and Kubiak got that gig in Houston.
This silly excuse for a football team needs a Bill Parcells as G.M. and a Tom Coughlin for head coach. I'm certain that individuals of that type would create an awareness within that over-priced bunch of no-talent prima-donnas that they are paid far more than the people that fill most of the seats. Who cares about the end-zone follies or pounding your chest when all you did was the job you were paid to do. Try showing a little class and SKILL.
December 30, 2008
8:15 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
scoobydoo, anyone who says Cutler is a lousy QB, knows nothing of talent. I stand by my statement.
For all those who keep asking for Kubiak, he is the head coach for Houston and is not coming to Denver. Now, some names to throw around, how about Billick? Look what he did for the Ravens D. Cowher is not sure where he wants to go, as of yet. I'm sure we will know very, very, soon. Regardless, I hope it doesn't mean we have to wait 2-3 more years while the O and D learn a whole new system?
December 30, 2008
8:16 p.m.
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TominPhx writes:
This is ridiculous! Bronco fans are soo spoiled! Bad seasons in any other city are 3-13 or 4-12. But 8-8 is a bad season for Denver. 16 players on IR and 7 running backs out, all of the starting linebackers missing significant time, Champ Bailey out half the year, but they still did not have a losing record? Hmm seems like a pretty successful year to me! You have to be careful what you wish for, before you know it the Broncos will be picking in the top 3 of the draft! Sad day for REAL Bronco fans, and for people who really think that there is a better coach out there.
December 30, 2008
8:17 p.m.
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slamnsam569 writes:
remenber elway and reeves....time to move on broncos...thanks...we'll be back
December 30, 2008
8:22 p.m.
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slamnsam569 writes:
shut up and move on....elway and reeves???
December 30, 2008
8:25 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
Scoobydoo, anyone who says Cutler is a lousy QB knows nothing about talent. I stand by my statement.
Vector049, about you, nobody cares.
FTR, hey, you know me. I wanted Shanahan to stay. But, he's gone, so we need to try to guess who will replace him? Cowher? Billick, look what he did for the Ravens D. Marty? Anything is possible at this point.
OPETH72, well, we will see if we go backwards from here. My concern is how long will it take a team to regroup, learn a new system (both O and D)? It only took Miami 1 offseason to go from worse to Division champs. Anything is possible, I suppose.
December 30, 2008
8:38 p.m.
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baylinorcrush writes:
DDave, from what I gather, Cowher does not want to return to coaching in 2009 no matter who for. Of course this could all change now that one of the premier coaching job in the NFL is available. I'm not sure he would be the right fit for our offense, he is all running (which I love) but he may not be able to keep Cutler and Co. happy, he is very conservative.
The good thing is they are many options out there and most of the top candidates will probably wait to see in what direction the Broncos will want to go before they sign up anywhere else. This is the best job available, Nobody in his right mind would take the Jets job over ours considering the New-York frenzy. That's as tough as it gets there. Anyway, this is totally exciting.
December 30, 2008
8:43 p.m.
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HughStewart writes:
I am a San Diego Charger fan and a Denver Bronco fan when you guys play Oakland. Yes I am very pleased with the outcome from the game Sunday night. I can honestly say that I am very dissapointed with the firing of Mike Shanahan. There are few "GREAT" NFL coaches out there today. Mr. Shanahan was and is a class act. I had the priviledge of seeing in person Elways last game and to see Parcells lose to Shanahan! It was an amazing day and you Denver fans are incredible. I hope Mike takes a well deserved vacation and finds a new home in the NFC next year.
I also hope that your team finds a great new coach and that our teams are able to continue this great rivalry.
Good luck next year!
December 30, 2008
8:43 p.m.
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BroncofaninDuckland writes:
I'm not sure any of the big name coaches would touch the broncs in their current state. When Kube left, the offense got predictable and boring. I don't really think he would leave Houston (a better team) for the broncs, but if he does, I hope he brings Mario Williams with him. LOL.
December 30, 2008
8:47 p.m.
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RockyMts69 writes:
l like Cowher as a head coach, he has a lot of energy, and he's definately a 'players' coach with a defense first mind set. But his record isn't any better. And look how long he hung to Kordell Stewart?
A fresh new start would'nt be bad either. Steve Spagnuolo, Jason Garret, or even Piolo might be a good fit.
I like Schottenheimer, but remember, he had TWO weeks to get the Chargers ready and then lost to the Pats in 2006.
December 30, 2008
8:55 p.m.
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kilpatrick88 writes:
The mindless mob mentality is pathetic. Look at the facts Shannahan haters: Over 14yrs, Shanny won 62% of his games. That goes down with the best coaches in the HISTORY of the game. Use your head and not your heart when trying to deal with the frustration of an 8-8 season. The fact is, the team will NOT be able to hire a better coach.
December 30, 2008
8:57 p.m.
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baylinorcrush writes:
RockyMts69,Schottenheimer is Dan Reeves' twin, he can't win the big one. Keep him away.
December 30, 2008
8:59 p.m.
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Swick writes:
Browns are trying to get Scott Pioli from NE to be their GM. We should get him and the offensive coordinator McDaniels. No old school coaches like Cowher or Billick. If Bowlen is making a change he needs to do it for the future as well as the present. This is like when Spurrier left the FL Gators. They turned out pretty good, but it took a couple of coach changes to get it right. Bowlen better have a good plan moving ahead and not have just fired Shanahan over control issues.
December 30, 2008
9 p.m.
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BenchBoss writes:
Seems there was a Denver coach-firing mixup.
Headline SHOULD read: "Avs fire Granato".
Sad day indeed. I definitely didn't see this coming. I really like Shanny.
December 30, 2008
9:01 p.m.
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B300 writes:
Dynamicdave, I agree with you about Jay's talent, but I worry about his personality. I'm sorry but I see him as being easily intimidated and a cry baby right now. Hopefully he can grow out of this if I am correct. But I for one have thought for the last few years that we needed new management. Its not that I didn't like Mike but I thought he has lost his edge. He needs to move on and so does the team. Thats my whole point, they haven't been a team the past few years. Too many gang bangers and mercenaries, and no team spirit. I am hopeing for bright future!
December 30, 2008
9:03 p.m.
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SensibleOne writes:
Gee, pay me $21 million to sit on my butt.
Guess he spend more time on his sinful mansion now.
December 30, 2008
9:09 p.m.
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jokboy4u writes:
Just like Spiderman.. with great power comes great responsibility. Shanahan created the power/responsibility of being MORE than a coach and he failed (miserably) and as such he gets fired. He would have been a great coach, but that's not the role he accepted. I give kudos to Bowlen for having the nads to make the move that needed to move. Cutler should be apologizing, not whining ... his arrogant needle-threading throws for costly interceptions single handedly cost us games that would have put us in the playoffs. Last week he missed no less that three WIDE OPEN receivers for touchdowns. So Jay, tell Mike you're sorry, kiss and make up, and then move on. You have a LOT of work to do to quit worrying about Phyllis and make sure you're not Favre-like in your picks to TD ratio.
December 30, 2008
9:10 p.m.
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GJrodburner writes:
That's exactly the point in this era's N.F.L., you don't get 5-years to rebuild, you get maybe two at the max. The 'fins and the Falcons did it in one year! DD you are right, let's see what happens.
December 30, 2008
9:15 p.m.
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6_is_the_new_7 writes:
When I first heard it I thought "Bowlen, you idiot, what are you doing?" Now I'm thinking "Please don't get some retread coach such as Kubiak, Cower, Shotenheimer, or anyone else like that." Good luck Shanahan on your next coaching job. I'm sure there will be lots of offers. Please take one so we don't have to pay out the remainder of your contract.
December 30, 2008
9:16 p.m.
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Mr_Bill writes:
Wow, I didn't see this one coming. I felt that change was needed, but this seems extreme.
I hope that Bowlen really thought this one out, and already had his replacement lined up. Change like this is scary.
My opinion is that Shanahan should have had his GM duties removed, so he could focus on coaching, but obviously Bowlen had other plans. I can see Mike going to Detroit, they would love to have him.
Thanks for all the great times, and best of luck to him.
December 30, 2008
9:17 p.m.
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Trojan1 writes:
I am not a Shanahan fan (mainly because I am a RAIDERS fan), but I think he is a really good coach. Maybe he did need to bring in a new DC; but you fire him and hire who? If Mike wants a job, I think the Browns, the Jets and maybe Jacksonville (very soon) will be giving him a call. Not to mention the Rams (Mike would not dare consider the Lions).
December 30, 2008
9:30 p.m.
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Patron_Drinker writes:
I've wanted Shanahan gone for several years now, and finally Bowlen sees the mess that the team became. I think the Broncos should go after their last great Defensive Coordinator: Gunther Cunningham. Maybe try to get a college scout as GM, those guys are generally great judges of talent.
Shanahan, if he wants, could have another head coaching job anywhere in the NFL by the end of the week. If I'm him though, I'm taking a couple years off, getting paid the money he earned for being a good coach.
December 30, 2008
9:30 p.m.
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denfanincali writes:
Jubei writes:
"denfanincali, didn't the Ravens, Dolphins and Falcons get to the playoffs this year with first-year head coaches?"
Yes that is true. But that is certainly not the norm. That is an incredible aberration. You think this happens all the time? The turnaround the Dolphins have made (thanks to Parcells and their surprise coach Sparano) is shocking. I mean Sparano was never even a coordinator let alone head coach. So, that is truly fluky. How can you predict that? The Ravens or Harbaugh I should say did a great job getting that Defense back on track and the Falcons are the biggest shocker of them all. But come on dude, the planets all need to line up PERFECTLY for this to happen.
Bowlen did NOT need to fire Shanahan. If he didn't like his personnel decisions he could have just installed a GM (not necessary though because Shanahan had the GOODMANS and Xanders and they were beginning to pay HUGE dividends). I mean, Jauron just had his THIRD consecutive 7-9 season and he is keeping his job. This was the biggest bone-head move ever. Shanahan's offensive game-planning is still the best in the business.
We failed to make the playoffs for 3 lousy years. How spoiled do our fans have to be we gotta run the man outta town for 3 non-playoff seasons. I mean, we were working in a new QB for Chrissakes. This is so freaking stupid.
And now that he is available the Chiefs will fire Edwards and we will be facing him next year. I hope all the idiot Shanny haters will be very happy.
December 30, 2008
9:31 p.m.
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NDeeZ writes:
Absolutely right...one of the best offensive coaches. But what've they done since Ted Sundquist was squeezed out? Maybe Bowlen pitched lose the GM-ship, hire a capable GM and a strong defensive coordinator and Shanny said 'no.'
Let's face it--defense wasn't his strong suit.
December 30, 2008
9:33 p.m.
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watcher1 writes:
Glad he's gone. Maybe he'll go off into the sunset & play golf with John and their buddy, George W. Bush. They have a lot in common: none of 'em have worked in years.
Good riddance (and take that god-awful corporate name on Mile High Stadium with you.
December 30, 2008
9:35 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
B300, agreed. He needs to grow up. But, yes, the talent is there. He just is a very emotional young man. He speaks his mind. Maybe dwells too much on one particular problem. He will mature. Remember, Elway had his days of whining, as well. That's when Terry Bradshaw ripped him on TV and said he needs to grow up. A lot was thrust on him, his 1st year, in one of the most complicated offenses to learn. Unlike Rivers, who sat on a bench for 2 years, yet still has his own "growing up" to do. God, this having to wait for word on the next coach is excruciating.
GJrodburner, yep, a lot will be decided in the next 3-5 days. I hope it's something that we can all agree to accept, "Shanahan haters and lovers" alike? Marty? Billick? Cowher? With the $$ still owed Shanahan, can Denver afford a quality coach? Will Denver still be able to afford quality D in the draft? Some players need to renegotiate their contracts to free up money.
December 30, 2008
9:43 p.m.
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RockyMts69 writes:
I said I liked Schottenhiemer, but I feel the same, I don't think he's Denver material.
But no matter what, who ever takes the job is going to have one hell of an offense! We have a lot of talent that's eager and ready!
Finding the D-coordinator is going to be the tricky part, because it's like buying a $100 dollar car. There's a couple of good parts, but the rest needs to be scrapped!
December 30, 2008
9:47 p.m.
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mhow88 writes:
Certainly Mike Shanahan has helped put Denver on the map and made the Broncos a winning team with 2 Superbowl wins where it had none before that.. We Thank You Mike for all you have done and we will miss you!!
December 30, 2008
9:49 p.m.
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OPETH72 writes:
kilpatrick88, that is dead on. I am listening to T.D. right now, and he is right. And Schefter is right as well, the Denver fan base has become spoiled. At the start of the off season, if anyone would have said we would lose 7 RB's and still be in a position to win the division, I would have thought they were crazy. Obviously what I am about to say can change depending on what happens down the line with whomever replaces him, but this team is much worse off today than they were 24 hours ago. Bowlen may regret this one. Look at Fisher and the Titans. Are they great year in and year out? No. They have no SB victories. Just one appearance. And look how long Fisher has been around. Is he on the hot seat this year? Would Shanny be let go if we had their record? I know, I know, we don't have their record. We did just 3 years ago, and the Titans did not. I hope I am wrong, but it certainly seems as though Bowlen has made a huge error.
December 30, 2008
9:50 p.m.
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RockyMts69 writes:
If you want to compare Cutler to others, compare him to the ones in his class! As I've said it before, I would rather have Cutler than Lienhart or Young. Look where both of those guys are at, sitting on the bench picking their noses...
December 30, 2008
9:54 p.m.
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ColoradoNative writes:
What a stupid thing to do. Nobody on the market is remotely comparable to Shanahan. When the next coach goes down in flames, its time to fire the owner.
December 30, 2008
9:54 p.m.
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avsfan71085 writes:
Biggest mistake ever by Bowlen. Hope you're all happy, all the people who nag and whine after every game. You got what you wished for, and if you think we're going to get a better coach in return you're an idiot.
December 30, 2008
10:02 p.m.
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Tizzy writes:
Can someone explain to me why the NFL seems to suffer no ill consequences of these tough economic times. I hope more coaches are fired, more players are let go of their excessive contracts. We need to get back to a time when this was a game and not strictly a business. Coaches should make $200,000 a year and players should make maybe $500,000-$2mil a year tops. Seats should be made affordable and not be handed over to corporate clients. There are probably people in Denver who recently lost a job, and instead of giving up their thousand dollar bronco seats would rather eat ramen noodles for a year. Everyone else in America is being asked to cut back their salaries, even the Soap actress Susan Lucci has received a huge pay deduction, but for some reason it's OK to pay a team of Broncos millions of dollars for a mediocre performance, or any other team. The real story is the money here. If Bowlen can't get a superbowl win in the next few years that means less corporate sponsors, right? Times are changing and these athletes, coaches and others need to realize that. The best thing Bowlen could do is hire someone who is new to the scene. Maybe a college coach? Pay him something reasonable and show that you don't have to have a flashy guy like Shanny heading up your team to win big.
December 30, 2008
10:16 p.m.
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jpm423 writes:
It truly saddens me as a fan a sad day for me as a fan no loyalty to a coach that has brought you 2 super bowl championships. I am blown away by this move Pat Bowlen shame on you. What comes around goes around.I have been a fan since 85 watching my first game on a monday nite against the bears. We will miss you Coach Shanahan thank you for all the wins and the championships.
December 30, 2008
10:20 p.m.
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OPETH72 writes:
And does it bother anyone, even a little, that rival fans are ecstatic about this move? Here is the funny thing: Every team out there that is without a coach at the moment, and even the teams that will lose their coach in the next week or so, would be tremendously better off with Shanahan. OK, wait, that is not the funny thing. The funny thing is Denver is on that list as well.
December 30, 2008
10:21 p.m.
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saneone11 writes:
Good Riddance Mike! Go and veg. out at your expensive home in Cherry Hills Village and watch reruns with McSame and Palin....
December 30, 2008
10:21 p.m.
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paperboy writes:
The article states with respect to the possibility of paying out the contracts of Shanahan and any fired assistants, "It could have quite a financial impact on the Broncos, who are facing a cash crunch like many businesses in tough economic times."
Sounds reasonable unless you actually think about it. All the games won't be sold out? The multi-billion dollar TV payments are stopping? The five dollar hotdogs and $8 beers and thirty dollar parking spaces will go unsold?
I don't think so. So where is this Broncos "cash crunch" coming from? The reporter's imagination?
December 30, 2008
10:26 p.m.
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clsbroncofan writes:
Good luck Mike your time has run out here... When the respect is gone, its time to move on...
December 30, 2008
10:29 p.m.
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GJrodburner writes:
Dynamicdave I really don't know how deep Bowlen's pockets are when it comes to a new head coach. I can look at what was said today on the N.F.L. Network by Adam Schefter and see Bowlen not budging in giving out a lot of cash since much is still owed to Mike. I have no idea as to whom the next one will be, but given my dreathers, I'd like to see Cowher come in and rebuild this defense. Given what has been rumored that he is going to sit out '09, I'd like to think that his mind can be changed by Pat Bowlen, even without the big time cash. If Bowlen can't get Cowher then I'd like to see him go after Scott Pioli of NE as his GM; and that's the other rub with Cowher...he wants to bring in his own personell man. Haven't been able to find out who that person is for Cowher, have you? One of the bloggers thought that this year was an abberation for the first year headcoaches brought in by the 'fins, Ravens, and the Falcons. I don't believe that it was an abberation, but rather the trend in this new form of salary cap N.F.L. One thing is for sure, this league isn't my dad's N.F.L.!!! There are no more 5 year plans, or even three year plans...at the most you'll get two. Harbaugh in Baltimore is a coach's son. His dad was part of Bo Schembeckler's crew in Ann Arbor. The man in Atlanta was in Jacksonville as their DC, and we all know what they did the last six seasons down there. Mike Smith is one hell of a coach, and the Jags did every thing they could to keep him. Arthur Blank and his GM from the NE tree did their homework before they hired him. Bill Parcells has it in his current contract with the 'fins that when Hiezinga steps aside, he can too. Granted, that would be for a buy-out, but I'd really like to see what this Denver team could accomplish with a Parcell's defense; and Parcells wasn't a slouch on offense either. A lot of people forget what he did with the Giants, Pats, and Jets. He is probably the best evaluator of horse-flesh in the game today. No I don't buy into the doom and gloom, but am realistic enough to know that if Bowlen doesn't do his homework, then this team could be down for the next 3-5 years. I think it would be more prudent to go for the GM first, but I think that for some reason Cowher is going to end up here in Denver.
December 30, 2008
10:31 p.m.
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clsbroncofan writes:
I think Brian Billick would be a good fit for a new head coach...
December 30, 2008
10:56 p.m.
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liesandpropaganda08 writes:
I'm in complete shock. To all the "fans" out there that bashed this coach, your wish has been granted.
Put your seat belts on and keep both hands inside the vehicle because we are in for a ride! And there is no way, NO WAY, Bill Cowher is coming to Denver. He wants the media attention, and I think he will end up in Dallas or New York.
Well, I'm gonna go puke again.
Go Broncos!
December 30, 2008
11:15 p.m.
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GJrodburner writes:
Liesandpropaganda I don't think our wish has been granted, but accountability finally has arrived back in Denver. Yes, given the circumstances I could see you having to barf, but understand that Pepto will control that urge. Give this a day or two, or even a week...then we'll see which way this wagon is going to go down the hill. For all I know we may all be reaching for a bottle of Bramoseltzer and Pepto as our highball.
December 30, 2008
11:26 p.m.
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Bcra4u writes:
Wow, didnt see this one coming. I hope this change turns into something positive. I was floored to hear they fired Shannahan but that goes to show that nothing is garanteed in the NFL. It was awesome to have Shanny bring 2 Super Bowl Champions to Colorado and I will be here when the New guy brings back another one. However long that may take. Go Broncos and I know Shannahan will have a job next year, and the Broncos will probably be on his s&*t list. I just hope we dont play his new teams that offen. Please Shanny...dont go to an AFC rival!!!
December 30, 2008
11:28 p.m.
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Squatch writes:
If your reasoning is Holmgren took 2 teams to the Super Bowl then we are really in trouble (Lets bring in Marv Levy he went to 4 super bowls). Lets bring a guy in who is only chasing a check & Power Holmgren has quit on the Seahawks and when he leaves they will be in worse shape than the Lions due to his great eye for Talent (which is the reason Shanahan got fired).
Andy Reid is a fine coach but not with this current team he is no way an upgrade from Shanahan. Reid was fired until the Cowboys found a way to fall flat on their faces so dont toot his horn too much.
December 30, 2008
11:32 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
GJrodburner, a shot of JD and a deep breathe. That's all any of us can do at this point. I hear that Parcells may leave Miami if the team is sold? I doubt Denver can afford Parcells as a coach. Aw, decisions, decisions. Spin that ole" "Wheel of Fortune".
December 30, 2008
11:36 p.m.
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ManginoTorreta writes:
Well, this was a surprise, as I thought he'd get one more year due to the circumstances that occurred this season, but I'm not disappointed either. Shanahan had been digging his own grave when he threw Jake Plummer under the bus in 2006 despite his conservative play-calling and putting all the burden on the defense to win games (a strategy that came to a screeching halt when the Colts finally torched them midway through the season) This year, he put all the burden on the offense to win games, and mediocrity and a defense that made the 1988 squad look like the Baltimore Ravens resulted.
Yeah, he won us two Super Bowls, and those will be cherished and the credit is due to him for that, but the facts don't lie--this team has missed the playoffs 6 out of the last 10 years, and except for the 2005 squad, was manhandled in the first round every single time. Shanahan's Super Bowl wins and the fluke run in 2005 bought him far more time than most coaches would have gotten in the same situation.
It's going to be interesting to see who Bowlen hires. Shanahan was the right guy at the right time back in 1995, but other than Spagnuolo or Rex Ryan, I can't think of anyone that stands out among the potential crop of candidates.(Forget Garrett, he's waiting for Wade to get axed) Cowher is a pipe dream unless Bowlen offers him and INSANE amount of money, and with the assistants under contract through 2009, that's not likely to happen. I love Schottenheimer's ability as a coach, and his teams seem to win with regularity, but god bless him, he just can't get over the hump in the playoffs.
Another era begins soon, hope there are as many good memories as the last one had.
December 30, 2008
11:36 p.m.
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Spider writes:
I really thought that they would have taken into consideration all the injuries and given him one more year. But if he wasn't in tune to letting the DC go I can see where Bowlen was coming from. Although the last thing this team needed was to start out with a new DC and defensive scheme, it was obvious that the current DC wasn't going to get it done. We will miss Mike and it's going be really strange not seeing him when training camp starts. Please! No retreads! No Cower! No Marty! No Bilichik! They need to get a strong GM and let him hire his HC based on similar ideals. They need to make sure that they keep the offense on its current track and bring in a real defensive guru to run the defense. I'm going to have bad dreams about Shanny going to KC or SD and do to the Broncos what he has done to the faiders. Good luck wherever you go Mike but I hope it's in the NFC :-)
December 31, 2008
12:05 a.m.
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Jubei writes:
At this point the question of why is moot. It happened. Shanahan is no longer the coach, as weird as that sounds. So let's move on.
What about some of the other question marks?
Is Bowlen going to do the right thing and hire a real GM? What happens to the rest of the coaching staff? Will there be a change in offensive philosophy or personnel? Who stays on defense? What scheme are we going to employ? Will the next HC be offensive- or defensive-minded?
I find it kind of exciting in a surreal sort of way. The one thing I really don't want to see is a new HC that might come in and screw with the offense. It's close to greatness. Don't mess with a good thing.
I read the article in the RMN about Steve Spagnuolo, and he seems like a good guy. I especially liked the fact that he was willing to adapt when required. That is a good attribute for a head coach. If we don't get him, I'd like to see us snag someone else from the defensive side of the ball. NO RETREADS.
BTW, there's a great interview with Mark Schlereth on ESPN.com regarding the Shanahan firing. Worth checking out.
December 31, 2008
12:16 a.m.
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SE7EN writes:
Can't win consistently without a good defense and this team has lacked a good defense for YEARS. Shanahan was hoping his team could put up 35 pts. per game and let the Defense stay poor. It is about time this team got a defensive minded coach who knows what it means to build from the D-line. Shanahan only seemed to think that having a stockpile of DB's was the answer to the horrible pass defense. After getting shredded in the air by Manning 2 years in a row and the Steelers, Shanahan goes off and drafts a crapload of DB's and trades for 2 expensive pro bowlers, Bailey and Bly. Wake up mike! If your D-line doesn't pressure the QB, the best DBs in the world are useless.
December 31, 2008
12:25 a.m.
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Swick writes:
I remember the good ol days when Cowher was given enough time after losing a Super Bowl to NE to make it back and win another. I wish Bowlen would've had the same patience. I do hope we can get a seriously good GM like Pioli to come in and draft us back to the Super Bowl in a couple years. Shanahan's offense has always been one of the most fun to watch when he has a QB that can sling it. Bowlen better find another mastermind to keep the offense going or he'll really hear it from the fans.
December 31, 2008
12:52 a.m.
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liesandpropaganda08 writes:
GJ- Mike Shanahan did a good job in Denver and was held accountable. For better or worse, this team made a change. Jarvis Moss was my pick AND I wanted them get rid of Lynch because he was slow. Who knew Moss would be a bust and Lynch meant so much to our D? And that's just it. It is not popular to be honest and talk about who we would've chose. Bottom line is he was PAID to be right all the time and I understand that. I don't think that is realistic though. He's gone and I will support the coach they bring in. Gonna miss that coach though. He had HEART and it pumped ORANGE AND BLUE BABY
Just read ESPN and Clayton says Cowher might be interested. Hope I was wrong.
December 31, 2008
1:20 a.m.
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BroncosFanInSD writes:
I was profoundly saddened to learn of Coach Shanahan's firing, even though I'm acutely aware of the reasons behind it. Having been a fan since 1960 and in attendance at Super Bowl XXXII and XXXIII (among other Broncos SB appearances), those wonderful memories will be indelibly etched in my memory. Frankly, the "anti-Shanny" posts are sickening to me and totally disrespectful to a man who is still among the top-5 coaches in the NFL and who coached the Broncos to their greatest glory. OK. Fine. Now what? Among "outsiders," Marty Schottenheimer (as GM or coach - and a former real estate sales person in Denver) represents interesting potential irony; Jon Gruden (I have no idea if he's available and/or interested) is a proven leader who, I believe, would quickly gain the much-needed trust and respect of Jay Cutler. Both men are considered to be oriented toward the "defensive" side of the ball. On the "inside," I don't see John Elway as a head coach or general manager, but he could be more "hands-on" in Cutler's development. Rick Dennison MUST GO. His departure is long overdue. Kubiak won't likely come back. Parcells (ex-AFA) has ties to Colorado. Apart from that and, under any circumstances, the special teams need extra-special attention. Their failures cost the 2008 Broncos in many more ways than might be evident in the final scores. No matter what...Go, Broncos!
December 31, 2008
1:34 a.m.
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Hola writes:
Best wishes Mr. Shanahan. You are not going to be easy to replace. Guess that's how football is run...
I know a lot of fans of other teams want you on their side big time.
Wonder what Bowlen is thinking. Well, it'll be interesting. We could be in for some weird stuff...
December 31, 2008
2:17 a.m.
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tiburon49 writes:
Mike Shanahan does well when he has an all world quarterback to work with. Shanahan and Favre? Go Jets!
December 31, 2008
2:18 a.m.
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ORBroncoFan53 writes:
Tizzy, you must be a socialist along with being a huge moron. Are you for real? Did you really talk about a soap star having to take a pay cut on a football blog? It's called the free market system,if you have a talent people will pay to watch you perform that talent. Are you willing to take a pay cut at your job because years ago flipping burgers paid less than it does now, and someone else might think you make to much. Football is one of the lowest paid sports around, and it is the most watched, and bet on.Not to mention the condition these guys have to live with later in life because the brutal nature of this sport.
December 31, 2008
3:09 a.m.
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Losin_it writes:
I have been a Bronco fan for many, many, many years (well before the SB wins) and I have to say the past few years have been the hardest. At first I was shocked and saddened to hear about Shanahan but now that I think about it, it really is the best thing for all involved. Like many have said, he will go on and find success. And the Broncos will go on and find success too, may take a while, but we will be winners again.
It was a great run while it lasted and the memories will never fade. Thanks Mike for the ride! In spite of it all, you're still a class act!
It will be an interesting off season and now I must decide if it's going to be worth paying for Sunday Ticket next year (I now live in Northern California due to job transfer).
December 31, 2008
3:19 a.m.
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leavemealone writes:
Oh come on! 10 years and 1 playoff win.....
I hate to see anybody lose their job, however, he hasn't done the job .
Sorry, but Mike has to go!
Bye, Bye
December 31, 2008
3:49 a.m.
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NJBroncosFan writes:
Why? This is the most foolish move ever! I forgot Shanahan is the reason that our entire team was plagued with injuries. Or the fact our D-Coordinator is an idiot. Or the fact that this is still a young team with much inexperience. Anyone interested in what happens to a team with AMAZING talent, but a terrible coach? Take a look at what the Washington Redskins were the previous 6 or so seasons. Well I hope Bowlen likes being out of the playoffs for a while.
December 31, 2008
5:53 a.m.
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MarcoPolo writes:
2008 was now a good year.
December 31, 2008
6:30 a.m.
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5280FANatic writes:
Bring back Sundquist and Kubiak!
December 31, 2008
6:45 a.m.
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danirobi writes:
I am not convinced this was a good choice...
December 31, 2008
6:53 a.m.
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Vaildude writes:
Lets stop recycling these washed up coaches and go look for true talent....A coach who can scout/trade/draft and build a dynasty again...Oh yeah how about motivation and inspiration....This team has been a bunch of pathetic over payed losers for too long.....
Bob Stoops? Pete Carroll?.....I'd be looking up their numbers Pat...
December 31, 2008
6:55 a.m.
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CP writes:
The Broncos lost 7 running backs to injury and had 12 fumbles and 18 interceptions. These facts are out of Shanahan's control. Who does Bowlen think could have done better with those facts?
December 31, 2008
7 a.m.
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broncophanman writes:
i'm totally shocked. i thought bowlen would never have the guts to do this. shanahan had some great years but those years are long gone. we've needed a head coaching change for a while now.
December 31, 2008
7:08 a.m.
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cptndunsel writes:
About time. Hope we get a quality replacement - Bill Cowher comes to mind if we can talk him into it.
December 31, 2008
7:09 a.m.
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detroit11 writes:
After you fail for a few years and after everyone figures out you schemes, maybe its time for a change. He will have better luck out of the conference than in it. Hope he goes to the Detroit Lions. They need him. GO WINGS!!
December 31, 2008
7:14 a.m.
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spencerr writes:
Good riddance!
December 31, 2008
7:25 a.m.
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mlito writes:
As a Browns fan I have hated Denver since the "drive." I would love to see Denver loose every game but you are really bush league. Shananan is a top NFL coach. Denver has a mediocre team, no defense and an unproven QB who, up to now, has been mediocre at best. Players like Elway come along once every 50 years. Face it you do not have the talent.
You talk about Cower. In all that his time at Pittsburgh, with all that defensive talent, with the best owner in the league and a great GM -- he won 1 Super Bowl!!!! He wasted 5 years+ on Cordell Stewart at QB when it was obvious that he would never live up to his potential. The Stars aligned for his super bowl win. Some years it is just your year.
I do not like Shanahan but he is a winner. You guys will be sorry when he moves to a team like Dallas, Browns, Jets and builds a program over 10 years when you guys will have a revolving door of coaches coaching mediocre teams and will be the west coast version of the Washington Redskins.
You better pray that he does not end up in San Diego because then you will never make the playoffs.
What a stupid, bush league move by your owner Dan Snyder/Jerry Jones JR!
December 31, 2008
7:28 a.m.
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mlito writes:
As a Browns fan I have hated Denver since the "drive." I would love to see Denver loose every game but you are really bush league. Shananan is a top NFL coach. Denver has a mediocre team, no defense and an unproven QB who, up to now, has been mediocre at best. Players like Elway come along once every 50 years. Face it you do not have the talent.
You talk about Cower. In all that his time at Pittsburgh, with all that defensive talent, with the best owner in the league and a great GM -- he won 1 Super Bowl!!!! He wasted 5 years+ on Cordell Stewart at QB when it was obvious that he would never live up to his potential. The Stars aligned for his super bowl win. Some years it is just your year.
I do not like Shanahan but he is a winner. You guys will be sorry when he moves to a team like Dallas, Browns, Jets and builds a program over 10 years when you guys will have a revolving door of coaches coaching mediocre teams and will be the west coast version of the Washington Redskins.
You better pray that he does not end up in San Diego because then you will never make the playoffs.
What a stupid, bush league move by Dan Snyder/Jerry Jones JR!
December 31, 2008
8:03 a.m.
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figboo2 writes:
your offense is 2nd in the league and your defense is, what, last with the head coach continually looking for a good defencive cord. how is it then that firing the head coach and keeping the defensive cord in ANYWAY not the stupidest move you could possible make. the only thing shanahan did wrong was not firing slowic 3 games in when he said there was no problem with the defense cuz "we're still 3 and 0". THERE'S YOUR PROBLEM PAT!!! The only thing I can think of that may possible work out is if we can get Kubiac, but other the that this was a MONUMENTAL blunder.
December 31, 2008
8:15 a.m.
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GJrodburner writes:
At the press conference for today I wonder if there will be any sincere insight that can be gleaned from all the syrup. Could be that there will only be a flask of bitter instead at the news conference! This offseason is going to be mindwarping to say the least. Dyanamicdave I may just have that shot with my morning coffee, can't wait for the news conference out of Dove Valley today, it hopefully will won't be a love fest and can actually shed some light on the firing and direction this team is going to go.
December 31, 2008
8:22 a.m.
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jersey writes:
Coaches are hired to be fired and only in Denver would there be so much flap over the firing of a non-productive coach. The nature of the beast is "what have you done for me lately"? NFL...Eh, Not For Long! Hellooooo! I can think of at least 5 or 6 other places where he would have been put out to pasture long before now. The media and majority of fans treat these coaches and players as if they were a Diety and above reproach. Get serious Denver and join the rest of the realist. Not to belittle loyalty but that gets you squat in the all important win loss column if you allow that loyalty to blind you resulting in being on the outside looking in year in and year out. If you want unmitigating loyalty buy a pooch!
December 31, 2008
8:30 a.m.
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trudon writes:
I' sorry to see Shanahan leave Denver, but it had to be. I thank you mike for the very good years you gave us, but I also think the last few years you lost your motivation and drive. Both you and Denver need a new start. Good luck in the future. As far as to what the broncos might want to think of is trying to get Defensive Coordinator Steve Spagnuolol or Jim Schwartz and the one I would really like to have Gary Kubiak. As far as Cowher is concerned there's no way he would come to Denver. Who ever Bowlin settle's on I hope he dose not give complete control the team to one person, it can't work. Get a head coach and a person with the "no" for personnel deceisions and team operations. I hope Bowlin will try to get the very best people to change the Broncos into a really great team again. I think we have the weapons on "O" but the "D" and speical tearms really need to be revamped. Look around the leaque and you see the teams with the good defenses are the teams who are the winners. You need a very strong defense to win Championships.
So good luck Mr. Bowlin, you have some big decisions to make I hope you get the best people you can.
December 31, 2008
8:45 a.m.
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baylinorcrush writes:
35,000 sq ft home! ENOUGH SAID ABOUT WHERE SHANAHAN'S HEAD IS AT. It was not with his Broncos anymore. Overtime and over money, he completely lost all sense of reality.
Talk about a self centered Napoleon type of mentality. I mean I have a comfortable 1,700 sq ft home. His equals more than 20 of mine! And he is a short little man, do you think he has 21 ft ceilings?
December 31, 2008
8:51 a.m.
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baylinorcrush writes:
trudon, maybe you should go bowlin' with Bowlen. Just kidding.
December 31, 2008
8:57 a.m.
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mhow88 writes:
It's a sad day in Denver... We wish you the best Coach Shanahan and truly Thank you for all you have done!!! We will miss you!!
December 31, 2008
9:15 a.m.
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maverick7 writes:
DD, I wouldn't mind seeing Billick here! Maybe couple him with Mike Martz as OCo and the Broncos would still have that potent O people fear. Billick would instill some toughness on D and make better player decisions for the D. I still wouldn't mind seeing Cowher though. You probably can't get everything.
Hopefully Bowlen brings in someone that understands the O and the way it clicks and doesn't dismantle it. I think the D could use dismantling and restructure, a whole new scheme would be welcome.
December 31, 2008
9:29 a.m.
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psychoChicken writes:
can't wait for next year's 1st loss when everybody who called for shanahan's ousting will be forced to become apologists for the incoming coach or demand his firing also
monday mornings on 850 will be even more fun to listen to with all the whining (cue up the funeral march). seems like only a couple of months ago i heard lou from littleton predicting a 13-3 record before the chefs beat the broncos; the rest of the year was obviously the coach's fault
baylinorcrush, is your point that the broncos coach should live in a 1,700 sq ft house? or that he is arrogant for making money?
does anybody remember all those folks who used to show up at mile high with paper bags over their heads back in the 70's? good times baby, good times
December 31, 2008
9:30 a.m.
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broncomaniac writes:
that was such a stupid move, Pat Bowlen is the stupidest man alive
December 31, 2008
9:36 a.m.
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mlito writes:
As a Browns fan I have hated Denver since the "drive." I would love to see Denver loose every game but you are really bush league. Shananan is a top NFL coach. Denver has a mediocre team, no defense and an unproven QB who, up to now, has been mediocre at best. Players like Elway come along once every 50 years. Face it you do not have the talent.
You talk about Cower. In all that his time at Pittsburgh, with all that defensive talent, with the best owner in the league and a great GM -- he won 1 Super Bowl!!!! He wasted 5 years+ on Cordell Stewart at QB when it was obvious that he would never live up to his potential. The Stars aligned for his super bowl win. Some years it is just your year.
I do not like Shanahan but he is a winner. You guys will be sorry when he moves to a team like Dallas, Browns, Jets and builds a program over 10 years when you guys will have a revolving door of coaches coaching mediocre teams and will be the west coast version of the Washington Redskins.
You better pray that he does not end up in San Diego because then you will never make the playoffs.
What a stupid, bush league move by Dan Snyder/Jerry Jones JR!
December 31, 2008
9:42 a.m.
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Miss_Kitty_Kat_Girl writes:
fromCOtoAZ writes:
...first of all the sky isn't falling nor are we destined for the super bowl...
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True, but Bowlen could be trying for the title the Detroit Lions have this year as that's where the Broncos could be headed.
And after Sunday's game I saw this one coming. Shanahan had his time and it's time for him to move on. He'll make a great coach somewhere else and bring htat team Superbowl Titles while the Broncos replace the Detroit Lions.
December 31, 2008
9:50 a.m.
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sbrooks5280 writes:
Let's use some common sense here: New England is considered pretty much the class of the league in this era, granted with Brady hurt they are not as powerful, however finished 11-5 with a guy, Cassell, who hasn't started a game since he was in HIGH SCHOOL in the 1920's! Bellechik has his issues, however he seems to always be the leader of that team, but he does not carry the title of GM! In Seattle, Holmgren wore both hats until just 3 years ago, what happened when he stopped being GM; they go to the Superbowl! Wearing both "hats" so to speak is just too difficult and time consuming for one person to be able to succeed at both, and usually they suffer in both duties. All that being said, WHY COWHER? He is just a mirror image of Shanahan, however in 15 years with the Steelers he only won 1 Superbowl, now I believe Cowher is an excellent coach, however if you give up a guy who has won 2 Superbowls because he won't relinquesh GM power, then where is the common sense in bring in the exact same mindset for a guy who was only able to win 1? The successful teams in today's NFL have a headcoach and GM who share the personnel responsibilites which gives a coach time to focus on coaching and a GM who has time to focus on players! This is a business, don't manage with your heart, manage with your HEAD! Let's start with a qualified GM and rebuild the team correctly!
December 31, 2008
10 a.m.
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mountainman1 writes:
GOOD LUCK MIKE!!! If I had a vote, I would vote in Cowher, but check out my blog for good discussion and my full opinion:
http://alldenver.blogspot.com/2008/12...
December 31, 2008
10:14 a.m.
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Jubei writes:
Wasn't Billick more of an offense guy? Wasn't he the OC for the Vikings when they almost got to the SB? I think the Ravens brought him in to boost the offense since their defense was already stellar at that point.
IMO we need the defensive analogue to Billick. We need a guy that will come in and basically leave the offense alone, but work with a DC he trusts to get the defense out of the free fall they seem to be in now.
If we have a GM with final say on personnel, maybe even the special teams will improve. Better talent and depth on defense will only help that cause.
As for the offense, I hope they retain Bates and Dennison. Rick is a smart dude, and he has done great things with the OL and what little he's had to work with in the run game. Bates, I believe, will only get better.
The sky is NOT falling people. It's going to be OK. Hang in there and try to appreciate the fact that our owner isn't settling for mediocrity anymore.
December 31, 2008
10:17 a.m.
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bassman writes:
I just looked at the national sports blogs and fans from almost every franchise are drooling over the possibility of landing Shanahan. Especially Charger fans who see he is far superior to Norv Turner. However, coaching is a 100 hour a week job and GM is a 70 hour a week job. No one can do both successfully. The only franchise that will give him that power would be Detroit. I wish he would have swallowed his pride and relinquished the GM title. I only hope he lands somewhere else quickly so Bowlen will have the dough to lure a great GM and a great coach. Preferably in the form of 2 different people.
December 31, 2008
10:27 a.m.
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Jubei writes:
So amusing how people think that this team is just going to completely fall to pieces.
You can look at it two ways:
Was Mike the one keeping the team from falling apart?
Or was Mike the one keeping the team from succeeding?
In order to be great, you must have accountability. Toward the end of Mike's tenure, there was none.
The players play the game, and you play the game with the players you have. If the man responsible for acquiring the players can't put a complete team on the field, then the team won't succeed. Period.
I think it's pretty clear where the responsibility lies.
December 31, 2008
10:58 a.m.
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not2serious writes:
This was a really bad call by owner Pat Bowlen. Mike is a great coach, and has three years left on his contract. From the money standpoint alone, this doesn't make much sense. Who knows where he will end up, but he will be coaching against us sooner or later. You know what they say about paybacks? Ask the Oakland Raiders.
December 31, 2008
11:19 a.m.
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figure9 writes:
It took me awhile, but now I understand why they call of you DONKEY FANS.
One minute you are bashing other fans about how you have 2SB rings, blah, blah, blah and then as soon as you fire the coach that won them, you jump for joy...
As a CHARGER FAN you fired the one person we HATED. Now all we have is LOVE for the Denver Donkeys. Shanahan was the one coach we most respected year in and year out. He is everything you look for in an NFL coach. I hope he lands on his feet in KC and puts the beat down on you DONKEYS. As for any RIVALRY between the DONKEYS and the BOLTS......NOT ANYMORE.
Enjoy being a Donkey fan ....The rest of the league knows you have and will always be the biggest WHINERS in Professional Sports
December 31, 2008
11:40 a.m.
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Disgusted_in_Denver writes:
For the first time I feel a little sad for Shanny hearing him tear up at the press conference. Then I remembered, he is making $20 million over the next 3 years from the Broncos and will probably go to Dallas of New York. With some thought, it is not all Shanny's fault he got fired. Bowlen allowed him to have all of the control, he allowed him to do this and get spread to thin. Bottom line, Shanny was not getting it done. This team and roster is largely lacking. I'm looking forward to a new beginning.
December 31, 2008
1:09 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
zoomy, Cutlers not "pouting". He's speaking his mind. Learn the difference.
December 31, 2008
1:34 p.m.
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Jubei writes:
People to forget that Jake Plummer and even John Elway could get snippy at times. When you live in the past, it's easy to only remember the good things about people.
December 31, 2008
2:24 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
Zoomy, That's why he's going to the Pro Bowl when he played on an offense with no healthy RB's. He threw a lot because he had no RB's and was forced to throw out of an empty backfield. Know what you're talking about before you speak. The only loser is anyone who thinks Cutler isn't a good QB. You wouldn't recognize talent if it ran up and bit you in the butt. Pro Bowl, Zoomy, get a clue.
December 31, 2008
5:28 p.m.
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liesandpropaganda08 writes:
I wouldn't trade Jay Cutler for any other QB in the league. He showed commitment and dedication last offseason when he worked with Marshall and Scheffler. He is not the problem.
Couldn't imagine standing in front of all those people, on national tv, and getting your heart ripped out and your rear end handed to you. If you have a competitive bone in your body, you know that WE haven't always handled those situations the way we would've liked.
Haven't felt this way as a Bronco fan since DW.
Be safe tonight and have a Happy New Years everyone.
December 31, 2008
7:25 p.m.
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GJrodburner writes:
I'm old enough to remember Curt Gowdy talking about how Johnny Unitas used to look like he was pouting when he messed up, especially at the end of SB-III; or how he looked when his team lost in the N.F.L. Championship to Jim Brown and the Cleveland Browns, just as he looked the year he and the Colts lost to Miami and Bob Griese the year they lost in the A.F.C. Championship one year after they had beat the 'boys in SB-V. Zoomy, what in God's greenearth could Cutler possibly have to talk about when he throws a pick? What is he supposed to look like, as if he didn't make the mistake? He is 23, he will mature, even Mike knew that and that is why Mike let it ride because he remembers how John looked when Mike was the assistant in Elway's early years in a Broncos uniform. Go ahead and dislike Cutler all you want, but given the class of qb's he came in with he is head and shoulders above Vince and Matt; you are seeing the maturation process of another great Broncos qb, not the way you'd want it done, but being done nonethenless. He'll learn not to call out his WR's when he overthrows them, or when one is too hurt not to be able to jump up for the overthrow, or when one just lets a good pass drop out of his hands. Zoomy, there were many in the Bronco' Nation that couldn't stand JE until he won those two SB's. It didn't matter how much I wanted everyone to love him, it wasn't going to happen. Even after JE won there still was a negative sentiment surrounding John. Same with Cutler. I think that I've been blessed to see two franchise qb's in the same lifetime with one organization. As he progresses in age and learns more about being a professional in the game, on the sidelines, and off the field, he will lose that crybaby look you see, the sulleness I see, and will acquire the look of a determined man...but it does take time for 20-somethings to hit that stride. I work with this age group day in and day out, and I have had to bail them out, pacify them, and to a lesser extent wipe their noses every now and then. When they hit that maturation point, and invariably they do, to me, it's like seeing a sunrise for the first time. This young man is going to take this team to a SB, and for all we know it may be next season. What you may see in Cutler maybe what you don't like about yourself Zoomy.
December 31, 2008
8:30 p.m.
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Dynamicdave writes:
GJrodburner, you have much more patience with people like "Zoomy", then I do. I have patience with my kids in martial arts class, but that is a whole different matter. They understand what is expected of them and me. Zoomy is set in his way because, well, he's bandwagon, "if" a fan at all. You've seen the trolls, GJrodburner. I have never seen as many posts by people who we have never posted before, tell us that they have been saying "it" all year??? Not to "us" they haven't? They come out of the woodwork and bash. Such is their nature. But when they bash Jay, well that's different. Does jay need to grow up? Yes. Is he wrong for saying he's not pleased with Bowlens decision? No. Would the public prefer he lie when the media (Yes, people, he is a public figure and has to talk to the media. Do you?) asks him a question? Of course not. Jay speaks from his heart and because of his young age, maybe voices his opinion a bit stronger then others would prefer. I think his approach is refreshing. My students are taught to be upfront and honest. Don't disrespect, though. Jay disrespected nobody, including Pat, with his comment. Pat even sat down with Jay and said they had a positive conversation and jay is his man. When you become a high priced sports celeb and deal with the press everyday and come out "squeaky clean", then talk. I work with a few celebs. They are older, wiser and have gotten past their mistakes. They have made them when they were younger, but got passed it, regardless of their haters out there who made it more difficult by the bashing. I guess Jay isn't as "perfect" as the rest of you haters? He will grow up and grow wiser. Will you?
December 31, 2008
9:24 p.m.
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GJrodburner writes:
Dynamicdave you and I have had the privelage and honor to lead young men and women. We see the impossible become possible through arduous work and much, much learning. As much as a mentor can lend that guiding hand, sometimes it is the foot in the arse that has to be administered too. Jay Cutler doesn't strike me as a player that is going to need that boot. As with Zoomy, or anyone else that has a very negative outlook on all of this, and I won't lie, I'm still shaken...but not stirred by the events, this time right now is going to make this organization better. But for the haters, it is going to allow their inner character to shine through in all that they post. Although age does not bequeath wisdom, I've seen 18 year old men and women with the soul and mind of a 60-year old, and I've seen 25-year old (+) adults have the attitude of a two year old, Zoomy will either get it or not. His attitude can't be denied, but it doesn't have to be relative either. Let him hate. This great game of football mirrors life to some extent, and as of now, this event with Mike is like the death of a loved one...some of us understand this and knew that this day would happen, eventually given the record over the last three years and of course this season too. I wanted Mike replaced, but as I spoke with you and some of the other bloggers, I realized that I couldn't change your thoughts about that, and it was alright; I still loved the Broncos and respected (as much as possible, hell I don't walk on water, and with some of these shlubs you just can't help but post a little hate-back too!) those in the Nation. Mike is a beloved coach, has met his demise here...but unlike that parent that passes on, he'll get a reprise somewhere else. You can lead that horse to water and it will either drink or drown. The Cutler haters are taking on some water. That can change over time, although I doubt it will. Hell, there's still some out there that still hate Elway too!
January 1, 2009
11:09 a.m.
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Jubei writes:
GJrodburner, your perspective is always refreshing.
BTW, we're going to be fine. The more I ponder the post-Shanahan era, the more excited I get.
There are a lot of people on here who want to see this change as a negative. Since none of us knows the future, I'll chose to look at it as a chance to improve and mature as a team.
Time will tell...
January 2, 2009
12:30 p.m.
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GJrodburner writes:
Thanks Jubei, I just hope that Dynamicdave is doing better. Every now and then this blogging site can be taken a tad too personal. He's a man, and I'm sure all is well. I like how you looked at this event as a maturation of the team, and for all we know a marshalling of all of our O-talent into the final deal. My concern has been the fact that the teams overall defensive scheme and talent is far worse than I ever thought possible. Still, if Miami, Atlanta, and to a lesser extent the Chargers could put it all together in a season, why can't the Broncos next season do it too?