Witness: Gay man arrested at concert was 'acting obnoxiously'
By Judi Villa, Rocky Mountain News
Published December 18, 2008 at 7:21 p.m.
Jerome Schroeder
Photo by Joe Mahoney © The Rocky
Pop star Madonna performs during her first-ever performance in Denver on Nov. 11 during her "Sticky & Sweet Tour" at the Pepsi Center.
Jerome Schroeder claimed he was arrested at a Madonna concert last month because he is gay.
He lodged a complaint against police and told his story to the media.
But now investigators say there was more to Schroeder's arrest than he let on.
A witness has come forward to say Schroeder and his companion were "acting obnoxiously" during the Nov. 12 concert at the Pepsi Center.
And Denver's Independent Monitor, Richard Rosenthal, said Thursday he will take "no further action" on Schroeder's complaint.
"I am sorry we could not be of service," Rosenthal wrote in a letter to Schroeder.
Schroeder had requested mediation with the officers involved in his arrest. But Rosenthal said the Police Department's Internal Affairs Bureau no longer supports that.
"The IAB command staff was concerned that your lack of credibility with respect to your description of your own conduct made you an inappropriate candidate to mediate your concerns with the involved officers," Rosenthal's letter says.
Specifically, the witness, who came forward after reading newspaper articles about Schroeder's arrest, told investigators Schroeder was "throwing ice, hitting random people and howling with laughter," the letter says.
Schroeder, a Denver radiologist, did not immediately return a call for comment Thursday.
Rosenthal described the witness as an "independent, unbiased and otherwise credible" woman who sat a couple seats away from Schroeder and saw everything.
Schroeder had claimed that a man seated in front of him made slurs about his sexuality and that a woman then made up an allegation that he had shoved her.
When Denver police asked Schroeder to leave the concert, he refused and was arrested for trespassing.
Afterward, Schroeder claimed Denver police had an "anti-gay attitude" and weren't properly trained to handle situations fueled by sexual bias.
But the witness disputed that, saying Schroeder and his friends were "out of control" and behaved "like overgrown children who were completely self-absorbed and oblivious to how their behavior affected the people around them," Rosenthal wrote in his letter.
"She described you as yelling loudly at the person in front of you and apparently enjoying the attention that you were getting from your group with the comments you were yelling," the letter says.
The police officers involved also described Schroeder as "obnoxious" and "rude." One officer said Schroeder yelled at him and accused him of "gay bashing" without cause.
The monitor's office does not usually investigate the validity of a complaint before making a referral to mediation. But after the witness came forward, the case was closed.
There are no appeals, unless new or different information becomes available.
"The information we've currently received seems pretty compelling," Rosenthal said.
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December 18, 2008
7:51 p.m.
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Gonzopozo writes:
Ah, nothing like the facts. Now go away Jerome. Your moment of fame is over.
December 18, 2008
8:04 p.m.
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LoneTreeLady75 writes:
I knew there was alot more to this story.
December 18, 2008
8:43 p.m.
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Spencer writes:
same thing happened at Tim McGraw concert
December 18, 2008
8:44 p.m.
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squeakywheel writes:
But was he any more obnoxious than Madonna?
December 18, 2008
8:52 p.m.
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singularity99 writes:
This guy is a doctor? If his behavior is that infantile, maybe he is unfit to be a doctor and should have his license to practice medicine revoked.
December 18, 2008
9:01 p.m.
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ManginoTorreta writes:
"Schroeder had claimed that a man seated in front of him made slurs about his sexuality and that a woman then made up an allegation that he had shoved her."
Since when did criticism of frosted tips on 40-year-old men become a sexual slur?
December 18, 2008
9:04 p.m.
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December 18, 2008
9:05 p.m.
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Oh_Wise_One writes:
Jerome, you need to get off the drugs dude. I can see an addictive personality a mile away.
December 18, 2008
9:12 p.m.
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DallasKing94 writes:
Doesnt look gay enough, look like a accountant.
He look like that Dad on American Pie with that thick eyebrowns.
December 18, 2008
9:17 p.m.
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December 18, 2008
9:18 p.m.
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mojoeco writes:
Holy smokes the RMN actually did some "reporting" and followed up on a story. I guess the AP was busy reporting on the Obama, Rick Warren non-issue for you.
Seems like Mr. Goody Two Shoes here, wasn't the angel he portrayed himself to be. I seem recall his accidental spilling of water on the other guy in the original story. I guess it wasn’t so accidental after all.
Dude, man up (if that’s possible) and apologize to the DPD and Pepsi Center employees you threw under the bus…
Loser…
December 18, 2008
9:40 p.m.
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davies writes:
Well I don't blame you Jerome. Gosh, the excitement of seeing Madonna's debauched devilry in person pushed you over the gay behavioral edge, just like that Catholic Bishop down in Chile said would happen. Your punishment of course will be for your partner to dress up like Madonna and give you a good spanking.
December 18, 2008
9:41 p.m.
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Uno writes:
Typical…
December 18, 2008
10:34 p.m.
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December 18, 2008
11:26 p.m.
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ifyem writes:
Maybe he though he was at a Vanilla Ice concert...What a knucklehead!!
December 19, 2008
3:49 a.m.
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MileHighPatriot writes:
"Afterward, Schroeder claimed Denver police had an "anti-gay attitude" and weren't properly trained to handle situations fueled by sexual bias."
Schroeder, you're an idiot.... the cops aren't trained to spot gays... you're just upset because you are gay.. and you need to come to terms with it.
December 19, 2008
5:44 a.m.
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roger44 writes:
These guys and gals are 5% of the population and figure the country should cater to them, ridiculous. getting more radical every day and they aren't doing their cause any good, just showing the general public how crazy they act.
December 19, 2008
6:52 a.m.
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GK writes:
"These guys and gals are 5% of the population and figure the country should cater to them, ridiculous. getting more radical every day and they aren't doing their cause any good, just showing the general public how crazy they act."
Nothing like a stereotyping bigot.
December 19, 2008
7:13 a.m.
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JimmyTheSaint writes:
I'm wondering if roger44 doesn't have homosexuality tendencies, especially when you consider the place he has his own head so firmly lodged.
December 19, 2008
7:16 a.m.
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LOUIE writes:
And now we have the rest of the story. Jerome, sorry pal, the card you played appears counterfeit. But if you harp loud enough, get some people to come on board, maybe you can still get a buck or two out of the Pepsi Center. See, when I go there to see concerts, (hate those damn little seats, as at 6'6", 310 lbs. they are miserable), the security don't care who you are, if you are acting a fool to the detriment of others, they toss you out. Giving them the ultimatum as you did Jerome, saying "arrest me", they will! I've seen people tossed from Metallica, AC/DC, straight or not, the security are equal opportunity throwing those who disrupt out. If they were throwing out gays at a Madonna concert, they don't have enough security to carry that off. But play the card anyway, maybe there some money in it for you! It's nice that someone totally unassociated came forward so the truth be known. Sorry Jerome...next!
December 19, 2008
7:29 a.m.
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denverinfidel writes:
Go back to the bathhouse Jerome.
December 19, 2008
7:38 a.m.
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River_Bolden writes:
"acting obnoxiously"
I guess I missed the point? this isn't a crime.
also, Denver all of a sudden brings forth a witness? possible to avoid potential lawsuits.
This is the same Denver PD that dressed up as protesters and attacked there own police members.
-RB
December 19, 2008
7:52 a.m.
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mokey writes:
"DallasKing94 writes:
Doesnt look gay enough, look like a accountant.
He look like that Dad on American Pie with that thick eyebrowns."
I'm sorry, but when you are so poorly educated that you put together a logical sentence, then no one will ever listen to you.
Let me write your sentence for you:
He doesn't look gay enough. He looks like an accountant, like that dad on American Pie with the thick eyebrows.
There should be a rule that you should have at least a high school education to register for this forum. I find it intolerable that there are so many people out there, who have failed to take reasonable steps to educate themselves. It is these people that make America weak.
December 19, 2008
7:56 a.m.
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Hunters_Girl writes:
River_Bolden the article states that the witness came forward after hearing the publicity about the case. "acting obnoxiously" was a way of summing things up- some of his actions and behavior are described in the same article. The article to which I refer is printed right above these comments. You should read it.
Sounds to me like 'ol Jerome was an instigator. After the spouting he has done, he ought to at least be charged with harrassment.
December 19, 2008
8:08 a.m.
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rightwingnut writes:
Mokey,
Get off your high horse and deal with the subject.
December 19, 2008
8:10 a.m.
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mokey writes:
"River_Bolden writes:
"acting obnoxiously"
I guess I missed the point? this isn't a crime."
If you don't get it, then you obviously are part of the problem. I find it obnoxious when people have the music in their cars so loud that I can hear it in my house (my windows vibrate) when they are a half-block away. Hell, I work on the 9th floor of an office building downtown and I can hear people's cars. Believe it or not they have city ordinances against such noise levels. However, when you speak out about it, you are made to look like you are abnormal. As though being obnoxious to the point of disrupting others peace and quiet is merely the other person uniqueness. I want to say the word multiculturism, but that would distract from the point of this conversation (or would it?).
It's good that there are limits and that people are willing to speak up when someone passes a normative threshold. It's not intolerance, it's just called good manners, respect.
The last time I was at a hockey game with my son, there was a group of people about three rows back who, from the beginning of the game, when the Canadian National Anthem was being played, began yelling out obscenities, first about Canada, then generally about the game. It became obnoxious and a real distraction to enjoying the talent on the ice and experience of being in a first rate sports facility with my son.
Soon, security came and ask the group to leave. Not surprisingly, they didn't have tickets for the section they were in.
Obnoxiousness is a crime and it should be rubbed out in an equally crude way.
December 19, 2008
8:19 a.m.
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VVVV writes:
Sad. So sad. This jerk set back honest concerns about discrimination 10 years in some people's minds. People like him hurt the gay rights cause more than the bigoted remarks that may or may not have been cast at him. To be proven right you first have to know you're right. Then you have to turn the other cheek. Fighting, whether fighting back or striking first will never win you as much support as if you are an innocent victim.
I suggest this guy watch Gandhi ten times to learn what it means to change the world. If he's not ready for that kind of dedication, then sit down and shut up.
December 19, 2008
8:21 a.m.
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SlouchingTowardBoulder writes:
There's always two sides to a story. Jerome can go away now.
December 19, 2008
8:22 a.m.
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mokey writes:
"rightwingnut writes:
Mokey,
Get off your high horse and deal with the subject."
After what the Republicans (right wing nuts) have done to our economy, we might all be riding on horses, with wagons being pulled behind....like Slovenia.
Read on...I believe I did redeem myself by speaking to the Subject. I just get a little annoyed when people post on these blogs but you have to read their sentences twice to figure out what they meant (and only half the time being able to do so).
Sorry about the horse comment, but you opened that door my Republican friend (and I say that with the greatest sincerity being an R myself (and still having the courage to admit (for the time being) it.)). Hey! how was that for a Faulkneresque sentence? Sorry am I breaching the intellectual bounds of the Joe the Plumber membership?
Geez, another slight. I should watch myself as I'm starting to fit into the class of classless folks who enthusiastically engage in these pevish little posts (like myself, of course).
December 19, 2008
8:25 a.m.
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wyhammertime writes:
Hurry up and play the gay card ,get the protest posse together , get the protest going and let us get on with life ok !!!!
December 19, 2008
8:44 a.m.
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Heidi writes:
Medical professionals have a Code of Ethics to uphold. It is my opinion that he made false allegations and tried to cover up his own bad behavior to avoid negative impact on his career. This arrest is probably not looking so good on his record.
December 19, 2008
8:45 a.m.
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toocool writes:
Why was this so-called "incident" even reported.......
December 19, 2008
8:47 a.m.
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timeandagain writes:
The State Medical Board ought to review this guy. The behavior may just be someone acting like a drunk idiot. But the false allegation against the police is a VERY BIG question mark on this guy... Someone should have a look at his record in the medical practice and his ability to uphold his Hippocratic Oath.
December 19, 2008
8:50 a.m.
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WhadUsay writes:
Mokey:
This was your sentence:
"I'm sorry, but when you are so poorly educated that you put together a logical sentence, then no one will ever listen to you."
You could use a little of your own "tough love". Maybe you meant to say "I'm sorry, but when you are so poorly educated that you put together an illogical sentence no one will ever listen to you."
Perhaps you should practice what you preach. Or, show some compassion - maybe the other poster just made a mistake. That does happen.
Let's get back to the issue at hand and stop trying to impress our sixth grade English teachers.
December 19, 2008
8:51 a.m.
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Drake writes:
I want to see who this witness is! The RMN has an obligation to follow up.
December 19, 2008
8:53 a.m.
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COLibertarian writes:
"Get away from Mango! You can't touch the Mango"
December 19, 2008
8:55 a.m.
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kayaker80206 writes:
Generally speaking, the Denver Police couldn't care less if you are gay or not. They often work security at gay bars. They have plenty of gay officers (men and women). They even have a program to recruit gay people to join the police force. Schroeder is really out of touch. And he gives decent gay people a bad reputation when he pulls crap like this.
December 19, 2008
9:03 a.m.
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blacksho89 writes:
Mokey: "I find it intolerable that there are so many people out there, who have failed to take reasonable steps to educate themselves."
Was that comma necessary?
Just askin'...
December 19, 2008
9:06 a.m.
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The_Punnisher writes:
" We're queer, we're here, get used to it, get used to it " may fly in San Francisco ( Or BOULDER ), but it doesn't fly in Denver ( yet ).
Playing the discrimination card doesn't work when people use REALITY for the basis of their decisions...
Face it, this person got tossed because of disruptive behavior, no more, no less....
The BIG difference: he ASKED to be arrested!
That is different that the cops proclaiming " We like to BEAT people ".....Which the DPD ( and other " protectors " ) proudly proclaim by creating that T-Shirt ....
December 19, 2008
9:12 a.m.
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eagleye writes:
River_Bolden writes: "acting obnoxiously" I guess I missed the point? this isn't a crime.
Uh, yeah, you did miss the point. Acting obnoxiously violates the Pepsi Center's rules, which gives them the right to tell you to leave. When you refuse to leave, you are trespassing on private property. That's where the police come in.
December 19, 2008
9:21 a.m.
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December 19, 2008
9:23 a.m.
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philvysor writes:
Jerome you were throwing ICE at people and laughing about it? If it would have been me I would have turned around and threw my whole cup of ICE at you not just tell the event staff. Must have been your 1st concert you ever attended, acting like a little kid throwing ICE what a MORON!
December 19, 2008
9:24 a.m.
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sheepherder writes:
Wow! Another false accusation against the police...I'm shocked! Punnisher makes crap up all the time too...who cares about a stupid shirt!
December 19, 2008
9:36 a.m.
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blacksho89 writes:
jerome, everyone should be allowed to cut up a little. But when you are told to stop it, you do so.
As for the matter of filing a false report, and trying to get a man FIRED FROM HIS JOB: You, sir, are lower than whale scat.
December 19, 2008
9:41 a.m.
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NotUrFriend writes:
Once again a guy is busted using his 'minority' status to try and gain financial and public fame. Last week on my campus I got into an arguement with a guy about him just dumping his trash and clutter on the light rail and it became heated. Next thing I knew he was saying I hated him because he was gay!
I couldn't believe it, and didn't even know he was for that matter. Not that it mattered frankly! But it's funny how they cry foul every time they find themselves beaten. When I'm beaten I don't use the "woo is me!" I'm a minority Latino group! Big, Cruel, Evil white man is hurtin me!
Just pathetic, thank this lady greatly for coming forward. Thank you!
I.
December 19, 2008
10:02 a.m.
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JimmyTheSaint writes:
I'm sorry, but saying "I was just having a good time" as an excuse for being a horse's rear, doesn't cut it. Fortunately at public events (sporting events, concerts) we are more aware of this problem now, and it's not such an issue.
But that excuse was used for way too long for drunks at Broncos games to be obnoxious, or people at concerts to behave about 20 years below they're actual age.
And his "anti-gay" bias don't cut it. A moron's a moron, no matter their "group."
And I'm in his "group." So do us a favor Jerome: go away. The rest of us who don't act like spoiled idiots when we're out in public are tired of you who do.
December 19, 2008
10:06 a.m.
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JimmyTheSaint writes:
Yeah, NotURfriend, playing that gay card is about 25 years too late. I was around in early 80s when (some) cops (Hello, Buster Snyder) would open up your head for merely walking out of a gay bar.
Ain't that way no more. Know dozens of cops, had hundreds of opportunities to meet ones I didn't know, and never, NOT ONCE, have I been treated anything but great by them, or been so-called "discriminated" against by them because I was gay.
December 19, 2008
10:12 a.m.
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mokey writes:
"WhadUsay writes:
Mokey:
This was your sentence:
"I'm sorry, but when you are so poorly educated that you put together a logical sentence, then no one will ever listen to you."
You could use a little of your own "tough love". Maybe you meant to say "I'm sorry, but when you are so poorly educated that you put together an illogical sentence no one will ever listen to you.""
"blacksho89 writes:
Mokey: "I find it intolerable that there are so many people out there, who have failed to take reasonable steps to educate themselves."
Was that comma necessary?
Just askin'..."
Tough love, indeed. I think that I will retreat and accept my well-deserved tough love. Touche, point taken, all that stuff.
(and I proof read those sentences....ouch!)
Maybe I was being a little obnoxious.
December 19, 2008
10:14 a.m.
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JimmyTheSaint writes:
Oh, good lord. Enough of the English lessons, please?
Tattered Cover has copies of "Elements of Style" or (my personal fave) "On Writing Well" by Zinsser for sale.
Please. Enough.
December 19, 2008
10:15 a.m.
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NotUrFriend writes:
Jimmy,
Thanks for the nod of support my friend. Yeah, and the sad reality is myself....I'm too dense to detect when someone's hitting on me, guys or gals. I won't know until you ask for my number or grab parts of my body that are for private use only. So I was very strongly offended that the guy said I was being 'a jacka**' because he was gay. Glad the security gaurd women was polite about it.
I am not upset, just offended by the guy. I do not hold a grudge however....the only one's I'd hold a grudge on are those who inflict physical and mental pain on the weak, like kids or animals.
I.
December 19, 2008
10:17 a.m.
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Clarence_Boddicker writes:
Now if Jerome would have acted like Mokey just now and come clean, admitted he made a mistake-none of this would have happened
December 19, 2008
10:23 a.m.
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JimmyTheSaint writes:
NotUrfriend:
Unfortunately, too many people use that tiny piece of their life to define they're entire existence on the planet.
I played football, love sports, hunt, rebuild carburetors for fun (yeah, I know--freak!), and live an honest life. And always people find out I'm basically old and married (to another man) and they say "But you hunt--how are you gay?"
I always answer the same way: evidently you're not really clear on the concept of "gay." We're everywhere and everything, but unfortunately moron's like Jerome or drag queens get all the press. Someone who just lives a normal societal life doesn't garner a lot of ink in the paper.
December 19, 2008
10:39 a.m.
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ron65ron writes:
I'm sorry, but doesn't this building have security cameras? Couldn't they have request copies of the tape top check on this? Give me a break. Take one persons word over another without the facts. Did the lady show the police her ticket? And 4 rows beind? Give me a break. If no security cameras, then they should have them installed. This could save the city a bunch of money in the future when something like this happens again.
December 19, 2008
10:45 a.m.
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JustSayin writes:
"If no security cameras, then they should have them installed." oh, aren't you the perfect tool.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool_(insult)
December 19, 2008
10:46 a.m.
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Heidi writes:
SimpleMind, a radiologist is a doctor. A radiologic technologist, aka, radiographer or x-ray tech, creates images which enable the radiologist to diagnose injuries and diseases. They are not "just trained to work an x-ray machine." There are many modalities of radiology, include CT, MRI, Ultrasound, and Nuclear Medicine. They have the same code of ethics as any other medical professional.
December 19, 2008
10:47 a.m.
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HankReardon writes:
Drama Queen ;)
December 19, 2008
10:50 a.m.
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Heidi writes:
Imagine having enough security cameras in the Pepsi Center to record everything going on! I wonder what the price of a ticket would be then?
December 19, 2008
10:53 a.m.
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missmilehi writes:
Oh please, like he was the only gay man at the Madonna concert and the police just decided to single him out.
Best quote of the thread?
"squeakywheel writes:
But was he any more obnoxious than Madonna?"
AHAHHAHA!
December 19, 2008
10:58 a.m.
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Andy writes:
This guy's a doctor?
December 19, 2008
11:11 a.m.
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NotUrFriend writes:
Jimmy,
Exactly, for one reason or another they assume a single choice in life defines your existance. Sexual, religious, hobbies, or even just owning a dog. I'm only 27 years of age but I've learned a great deal from that short period. Mostly from trial and error which is the best and most effective way to learn. You only really learn when you fail.
I don't hunt as I disagree with it myself however I respect its out there and I only ask that the laws and regulations that fit that particular nich be followed. I am very strongly animal rights, particularily companion animals (cats, dogs, horses, etc.) and refuse to accept cruelty toward them. I do not understand what kind of coward would beat a dog? It's a skip away from a child, and than a woman.
It's difficult to define happiness when you're making a collective decision that effects so many people. So in that way I think the people who tell you that are either arrogant or ignorant. I only say that you be humane, kind, and not cruel toward others. That being said you can get your fancy off on a tree stump as long as it aint hurting anyone.
I'm happy you found what you were looking for in life (or that he found you). I am still a loooong ways off from that. But I'm content with my job, my home, my dog, family and friends. It's all I can ask for at the time.
You sound like a solid kind of guy already, and I like that.
Merry Christmas.
I.
December 19, 2008
11:34 a.m.
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NotUrFriend writes:
Heidi!
Merrry Christmas hon :) Good to see you, I'm finally back on here fairly daily now. How goes the holiday? Darn, wish you were closer so I could buy you a gift or something for Xmas.
I.
December 19, 2008
11:35 a.m.
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jjez writes:
missmilehi--my thought exactly! But he was obviously the only obnoxious gay guy there that got arrested! And who made a big stink out of it. This guy needs to grow up and take responsibility for his actions. To quote Prince: Act your age, not your shoe size.
December 19, 2008
11:38 a.m.
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Heidi writes:
Hi MyFriend! We would be closer if you bought me a gift! ;)
I'm doing okay. I'm glad it's Friday and next week is going to be a short week.
Merry Christmas to you!
December 19, 2008
12:09 p.m.
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davies writes:
Heidi I'm afraid you know nothing about radiology, which is the study of boom boxes. Also the hypocritic oath does not preclude the right to hate on anti-gay-Madonna-fan gang members and terrorists, of which I am sure you are one. So I think you owe Jerome a personal and abject apology.
December 19, 2008
12:28 p.m.
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Tunlrat writes:
Toocool wrote: Why was this so-called "incident" even reported.......
Great point. Anyone that is willing to go to the media and make a claim, with no facts to back them up, can get their 15 minutes of fame. Where are all the whiners who were slamming DPD over being "gay bashers" and insensitive in the original article because they took the one- sided story as fact stating, "Opps, I guess DPD didn't screw this one up. Just as LOUIE said in an earlier post, if you screw up at a concert it doesn't matter who you are or what the venue is. Stupid is as stupid is. The funny part is, if he got the letter stating they found him not credible, and he was telling the truth, don't you think he would have responded to defend himself? Maybe he will and I'll be wrong but this is probably the end of it all.
December 19, 2008
12:37 p.m.
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The_Punnisher writes:
Sheepherder = cop = troll
FYI = I'm not one of your SHEEP...
And I have more than a GED education.
( And much more experience with REALITY. )
I deal in FACTS, do you?
Let us hope the new year is better than this one.
It wasn't the best of times, IMHO...
December 19, 2008
12:37 p.m.
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Heidi writes:
I'm sorry Jerome, er...I mean, davies....
December 19, 2008
1 p.m.
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jay writes:
sounds like this started with a hate slur.
lucky the guy who said it was only dealing with someone who throws ice and is obnoxious.
could have ended up a lot worse for him.
December 19, 2008
1:40 p.m.
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davies writes:
OUCH Heidi!
Not that there's anything wrong with being an obnoxious-icecube-throwing-out-of-control-Madonna fan, who also happens to be gay, which of course doesn't matter anyway.
December 19, 2008
1:41 p.m.
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TatMat76 writes:
Homosexuals are Gay!
GO BRONCOS
December 19, 2008
1:48 p.m.
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RoloFan writes:
Geez, the guy behaves badly (where'd he learn that behavior is okay?) and then he WHINES because he got called on it.
If a heterosexual behaved this badly, the cops would have done the same thing. Do you use your homosexuality as an excuse for EVERY transgression in your life?
GROW UP.
December 19, 2008
1:50 p.m.
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Heidi writes:
davies,
I don't care what this guy does because I know I'll be safe. I'm pretty confident that I will never be at the same concert he is!
December 19, 2008
1:55 p.m.
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RoloFan writes:
River_Bolden writes:
"acting obnoxiously"
"I guess I missed the point? this isn't a crime."
Uh, if I was the person who he was throwing ice at, I'd want someone to stop him. And a Madonna concert? Means I paid pretty good money to be there, and I bet I didn't come expecting a jerk to throw things at me.
The only person doing the harrassing was Schroeder. Can't own up to his own bad behavior, so he blames it on someone else.
December 19, 2008
2:05 p.m.
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davies writes:
TatMat76 writes:
"Homosexuals are Gay!"
That's bigotry.
Heidi, sure you're safe from Jerome, but what about all those burly hoochie mamas surrounding you at the Neil Diamond show? ;-)
December 19, 2008
2:12 p.m.
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Heidi writes:
Jerome is lucky he was not charged with assault with a deadly weapon. I heard about the dangers of bacterial infections and worse caused from ice cubes made in ice makers such as the ones at Pepsi Center.
December 19, 2008
2:18 p.m.
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Heidi writes:
davies, is calling someone a hoochie mama considered bigoted?
December 19, 2008
2:19 p.m.
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NotUrFriend writes:
Heidi,
No, Jerome's lucky the Cops moved in and saved his a$$. I've been to concerts and other large, crowded events...It's usually mob justice when people get out of line.
He should he thankful.
I.
December 19, 2008
2:27 p.m.
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NotUrFriend writes:
Davies,
"Heterosexuals are straight!" (Or, to some, disgusting)
Is that just as much bigotry? Gay activists self labeled themselves gay by accepting the term to define their sexual choice of life and a collective title as a 'minority' group. Its hard to fight self imposed labeling. Frankly, I prefer homosexual over just gay. Its more definitive, factually speaking.
Just thought it would be cute to turn that around.
I.
December 19, 2008
2:33 p.m.
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Heidi writes:
You're probably right, myfriend.
December 19, 2008
2:41 p.m.
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davies writes:
"I heard about the dangers of bacterial infections and worse caused from ice cubes made in ice makers such as the ones at Pepsi Center."
I believe all such known cases involve penetration of a major bodily orifice, rather than merely throwing the ice cubes.
December 19, 2008
2:52 p.m.
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NotUrFriend writes:
Davies,
Penetration means merely penetrating or breaking the upper layers of skin tissue rather than oral, anal, or virginal penetration (examples of openings) I'd imagine? The skin's a fantastic tool for keeping unwanted Bacteria and porious virus out but its not flawless at its job. It does perform the function well so long as some obnoxious little sh*t does not do his upmost to puncture it. Such as with Ice as an example. Bacteria can invade any open (or unopen in some cases) wound.
I.
December 19, 2008
3 p.m.
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NotUrFriend writes:
Though I could not imagine an Ice Cube cutting someone, anythings possible with enough force behind it. I'd of never thought a potato could puncture a solid wooden fence...But? When were young and stupid huh? Potato Guns.....Gotta love em!
I.
December 19, 2008
3:04 p.m.
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davies writes:
NotUrFriend: I was only kidding because I thought the "Homosexuals are Gay!" line was funny.
But saying "Heterosexuals are straight"? This is offensive to those suffering from ED. Therefore it is bigoted ;-)
December 19, 2008
3:06 p.m.
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jay writes:
"The only person doing the harrassing was Schroeder."
reading comprehension people.
it started with a hate slur...at which point this guy reacted by throwing ice cubes and making a fool of himself.
as i said before...the guy throwing the hate slur is lucky he picked on someone who only threw ice.
i have some black friends that wouldn't have taken that type of slur nearly as well as he did.
he got lucky. next time it might not be as painless for the guy who started the confrontation by throwing around hate speech.
December 19, 2008
3:29 p.m.
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NotUrFriend writes:
Davies,
So very true........E.D. is a serious issue facing 1 out of 9 men over the age of 45. Indeed...I crossed a boundry here and must be punished!
:)
I.
December 19, 2008
3:58 p.m.
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davies writes:
jay writes:
"reading comprehension people... it started with a hate slur..."
jay, I told myself that never again would I bother with you. But come on. The entire context of the article is that the complainant's statements have been discredited, yet you dwell on the fact that he claimed that it started with a hate slur. This claim was made after he was arrested and therefore quite likely disgruntled. Meanwhile we have an independent uninvolved eyewitness that says he was throwing ice cubes at random people and howling with laughter.
Reading comprehension indeed!
December 19, 2008
4:09 p.m.
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NotUrFriend writes:
Jay,
Again, that 'hate slur' is not coming from a third party not directly involved (the witness*) but from the 'victom' who has already been roundly discredited by the article, the witness, and both commision's reviewing it. The only one here still defending the guy is you. Why? If you feel obligated to help defend the guy round up some cash (out of your pocket*) and help him build a legal suit.
I mean....Come on! He isn't even willing to defend himself here now. That only shows silent, arrogant acknowledgement of his own guilt.
I.
December 19, 2008
4:09 p.m.
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dirkle writes:
Oh well, can't win 'em all I guess - Better luck next time around, Jerome.
In the mean time, if you need a ride, Ben Dover and I will drive you home.
December 19, 2008
4:17 p.m.
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LOUIE writes:
NOTUFRIEND, "virginal penetration", I haven't seen one since my childhood. LOL! It's not fun with a virgin anyway, I prefer experenced women. Unless it's my wedding night and I have to hang the sheet out so folks know. At which point in today's world, I'll be chopping the head of a chicken and "painting" the sheet. LOL!
December 19, 2008
4:28 p.m.
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Heidi writes:
I see no sequence of events outlined in this article. It makes no sense that when a hate slur is directed at someone, that someone becomes highly offended and then proceeds to throw ice cubes at random people while laughing.
December 19, 2008
4:29 p.m.
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LOUIE writes:
Hey as a straight man and I'm gay, especially when my wife says. "Yes!". I'm really gay when I'm getting off work. so what's wrong about straight people being gay. It's Friday and I'm going to have a gay weekend, hope you all have a wonderfully gay time as well! Straight time doesn't sound fun, it sounds like too many rules! I used to lie to the judge and tell him I was going straight, but that was a lie because I knew crime made me gay. As if I as a gay criminal could go straight.
December 19, 2008
4:39 p.m.
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Tunlrat writes:
Jay,
Unless you were standing next to the guy when the "gay" slur was thrown, you can't actually sit there and say that it happened. If you were, I'm sure it would have been stated. The "witness" who reportedly "witnessed' everything gave an account of what happened and nothing was mentioned about a slur being tossed out there and then the ice getting thrown and obnoxious behavior as retaliation. And I still wonder what Shroeder all of a sudden wasn't available to the media to defend himself when he was tagged a liar.
December 19, 2008
4:56 p.m.
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NotUrFriend writes:
Lousie,
The only one that has you sentenced to death currently based on honor thats still forcefull (fatally) inforced is Islamic tradition that requires a women to only one man....but a man may have four wives and as many sex slaves as he can capture. The Qur'an even goes to lengths to explain how worthless sex slaves are by allowing you to execute punishment in any and all ways. At least a married women based in the Qur'an is worth a bit under one fourth the value of a man. "Allah made One (men) to excel (superior) the other (women)"
Anywho! I prefer an experienced women any day ;) Been with cute, young, inexperienced girls before...Give me a sexy momma anyday! They can hold a strong, lengthy, and intellegent conversation not just "and omg, than she just, omg!"
I.
December 19, 2008
5:09 p.m.
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LOUIE writes:
NOTUFRIEND, I can't handle one women, much less 4. As much as my 1 likes to shop. I can't imagine 4, I'd be knocking over armored cars! My wife even went out and bought a brand new car and didn't say boo to me. I came home and there it was! Oh no, when it comes to the American girl, one is more than enough for me pal!
December 19, 2008
5:17 p.m.
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The_Punnisher writes:
Flintstones. Meet the Flintstones.
They're the modern stone age family.
From the town of Bedrock,
They're a page right out of history.
Let's ride with the family down the street.
Through the courtesy of Fred's two feet.
When you're with the Flintstones
you'll have a yabba dabba doo time.
A dabba doo time.
You'll have a gay old time.
ROFLMAO!!!
December 19, 2008
5:36 p.m.
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Heidi writes:
Punnisher!! omg! (sorry myfriend)
But I never knew all the words to that. "Through the courtesy of Fred's two feet" I don't know what I mumbled when trying to sing that line.
December 19, 2008
5:43 p.m.
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Heidi writes:
btw Punnisher, did the poster who calls himself barneyrubble remind you of that? Or did you used to sing that gay old song when you were younger?
December 19, 2008
7:44 p.m.
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The_Punnisher writes:
Gee, EVERYBODY used to sing it! It was on PRIME TIME!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX53PV...
Just like the " Creature Features " song..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MrQYS...
December 19, 2008
8:14 p.m.
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sheepherder writes:
I admit, I'm sick of the gay debate! RMN could just transfer the comments from one story to another and be done with it. I did like Punishers flinstone song though...
December 20, 2008
6:03 a.m.
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Robert_Gift writes:
Did alcohol lead to exaggerated exuberance?
Happens, especially with friends.
December 20, 2008
12:56 p.m.
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JustTheFactsPlease writes:
Many thanks to the witness who came forward with the truth. I know this guy and this is typical behavior for him. He's an angry person with a huge chip on his shoulder. He behaves like a idiot, has no insight into his behavior, accepts no accountability for his behavior, and then plays the victim. It is always everyone else who is to blame, never his own behavior. The sad thing is that this sideshow detracts from the very real and very serious discrimination that many gay men experience all the time. Time for him to wake up and go get some therapy.
December 21, 2008
6:02 a.m.
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LOUIE writes:
JUSTTHEFACTSPLEASE, thanks for that personal insight. If I run into the man professionally, I'll be sure and request someone else.
December 26, 2008
1:02 p.m.
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obama2008 writes:
Where does this guy work? He should be fired based on his public misconduct. As a gay man myself, it also seems to me that he is insecure about being gay. I have a feeling that he has not always been gay. Stop making a mockery of the gay community and go back to the heteros!!!