The Boss, Bon Jovi headed for Obama's acceptance speech at Invesco Field
By Mark Brown, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)
Published August 25, 2008 at 12:05 a.m.
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The Boss, Bon Jovi headed for Obama's acceptance speech at Invesco Field
The Jersey boys are coming, and we ain't talking about Frankie Valli. The Boss and Bon Jovi are ready to perform.
Multiple sources confirmed to the Rocky that Jon Bon Jovi will fly in to perform two acoustic songs before Sen. Barack Obama gives his acceptance speech at Invesco Field on Thursday. After the speech, Bruce Springsteen (photo at right) will close out the night, presumably solo acoustic (E Street Band member Nils Lofgren told the Rocky last week that the band wouldn't be with Springsteen in Denver).
Springsteen's people have not returned multiple requests for comment.
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August 25, 2008
9:56 a.m.
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bossfan writes:
Boss, I'm a lifelong fan of yours, and have seen you in concert many times. My walls are filled with your albums framed. Bon Jovi, you have a lot of great music as well....love that Jersey Boardwalk sound! I'll take sides with Laura Ingraham on the politics and wish you would just "shut up and sing"....but hey, keep rockin', guys! Love ya both!
Vote McCain!
August 25, 2008
9:58 a.m.
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RPhillips writes:
I'm not surprised that Springsteen and Bon Jovi would appear at the Democrat Convention. But I'm disappointed, because they are helping elect the first genuine marxist presidential candidate (Eugene Debs was conservative by Obama standards).
Ir appears if your from the entertainment sector, you automatically support Obama. Otherwise, you just don't belong, I guess. The herd instinct.
But then, Obama is a fellow performer--the smiling, dissembling villain.
August 25, 2008
10:05 a.m.
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JerseyFan writes:
I've been a Bruce fan for over three decades. In that time, I've grown up politically. Bruce should, too. Kinda funny a millionaire who lives in mansions singing about the poor and homeless. Is Bruce nothing more than a hypocritical John "Two Americas" Edwards with a guitar? I love Bruce's music and poetry, but his politics are immature. Hey Bruce! You wrote "Growin' Up" 35 years ago... don't you think it's time you did?
August 25, 2008
10:19 a.m.
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disenfranchised_libertarian writes:
I love them both. It's a perfect fit. Go Obama!
"Grab your ticket and your suitcase, thunder's rollin' down the track. You don't know where you're goin', now, but you know you won't be back.
Well, leave behind your sorrows, let this day be the last
Well, tomorrow there'll be sunshine and all this darkness past
Well, big wheels roll through fields where sunlight streams
Well, meet me in a land of hope and dreams."
August 25, 2008
10:21 a.m.
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BROOOCE writes:
The Gospel according to Bruce! His politics are right on! His music is brilliant. We fans who love the whole package wish the rest of you would listen to Republican artist who has been around for as long and as successful as Bruce. Oh, right there isn't one. "Ain't no sin to be glad you're alive."
August 25, 2008
10:43 a.m.
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rebraider writes:
The Boss.... gimme a break, boss of what? Bon Jovi... a glam band boy. Wasn't it Brucie Boy who dumped his wife and had an affair with that roadie trash he stuck in the band playing trampoline.... I mean tamporine (sic). They both live 'high on the hog' while lecturing the 'lil people' on how to drive a three cylinder car and to give money to people in other countires so they can have more kids they can't feed. We here in fly over country don't give a rat's a$$ about either one of these so called 'rockers'. I don't care for Bono either but he is 500 times the man than both of these dweebs put together, he carries out his words with action. Go back to Jersey you bunch of white trash singers.
Raider Cool Raider Nation for Dixie.
August 25, 2008
10:51 a.m.
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PoliticalJunkie writes:
Has anybody noticed that to attract huge crowds Obama needs big name rock stars? The rally in Germany was associated with a local rock concert and now the speech at Mile High will also feature the boss and bon jovi. Maybe Obama is just a rock star wanna be.
August 25, 2008
10:56 a.m.
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fredjones writes:
JerseyFan, it's you that needs to grow up. Bruce is like plenty of Democratic party supporters -- they care about this country and want to see it recover from the absolutely abysmal eight years of Republican control. How much money he has in the bank is completely irrelevant. More relevant is the fact that Bruce is a heck of lot smarter than you, and clearly has a better idea of where this country needs to go than you ever will.
August 25, 2008
11:03 a.m.
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demswin08 writes:
Hey politicaljunkie!:
You may be right about Obama always having a rock concert before his stadium speeches, but at least he doesnt have to go to a 50000 people motorcycle convention and offer up his wife to compete in a nude contest!!!
(I believe McSame does that from time to time)
ha ha ha!!!!!
August 25, 2008
11:18 a.m.
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Firedewd writes:
Babs not available this time?
NObama '08
August 25, 2008
11:18 a.m.
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jbowen43 writes:
I don't think that the McSames want to get a fight started over marital fidelity and family values with the Obamas. I don't think the McSames really want to get a fight started over integrity and honesty. Those are fights they will lose, big time.
August 25, 2008
11:34 a.m.
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sirfleabert writes:
What is Bon Jovi going to play......."Living on a prayer"? Bwaaaa Haaaa Haaaa!
August 25, 2008
11:40 a.m.
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DiverDan writes:
Too funny having some has-been rockers, but it makes sense to show their support for a 'Never-Been'.
Believe it or not Love for the Country is not the exclusive domain of the Democrats - unless your counting those that love those free hands-outs.
Yo - Fred Jones - what makes you think Brucie is smarter than me or anyone else? Just because he's a great singer?
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August 25, 2008
11:51 a.m.
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Stew77 writes:
Bush/McCain losers--maybe you can find Charlie Daniels and Donny Osmond.
August 25, 2008
11:52 a.m.
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kcsco writes:
Saw The Boss last night in Kansas City. Great show, he played for hours. However, we were treated to short political speach. Bruce, you're a great musician.
Vote McCain
August 25, 2008
noon
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ragnarb writes:
Both these guys live an idealic life, have left the common man far behind and have forgotten their roots and the struggle to be a success. Only their business managers know for sure how much money they have, and certainly make certain they pay little, or no taxes. They may be from New Jersey, but do not live the life of the typical struggling, over taxed Garden Stater. I've stopped listening to both these fools. Their music isn't good enough to where I can suspend imagination enough to seperate them from that music. Many of my fellow Jerseyites feel the same. The same can be said of most of Hollywood. There is virtue in keeping your political leanings to yourself. I see Nils Lofgren referenced in the article. I wonder how one of the best guitarests and performers around, who has become a journyman musician feels seeing his band leader act an elitist fool. That he never acheived huge stardom is a shame.
August 25, 2008
noon
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demswin08 writes:
How is McSame living off his 2nd wife's money different from John Kerry living off Teresa Heinz' money?
answer: John Kerry knows how many houses he ownes... but you cons loved making fun of Kerry money. I will enjoy reminding my con friends of that little fact.
Bonus: How is John Edwards and Bill Clinton different from John McSame cheating on his first loving wife who was critically injured in a car crash while he was a POW?
answer: no difference.. McSame is as big a cheater as everybody else that has cheated on his spouse.
August 25, 2008
12:03 p.m.
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fredjones writes:
DiverDan -- Well, I'm guessing that Bruce is smarter than you because he writes brilliant lyrics and you can't punctuate correctly ("your counting").
In general, though, I'd say that if you vote Republican this year, you either (a) don't understand how far the country has fallen in eight years, (b) understand it perfectly well but are too brainwashed on Republican talking points to think any other way. Either way, it's pathetic.
August 25, 2008
12:11 p.m.
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demswin08 writes:
Fredjones:
Your cause is noble, but futile.
republican brainwashing is far superior to anything the democrats have to offer.
I know firsthand. There is nothing you can say to a diehard repub to make him/her change their mind. If you were to show a repub a picture of bush defecating on a picture of Reagan, the repub would ponder at how wonderful it must smell!
August 25, 2008
12:15 p.m.
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fredjones writes:
demswin08, I completely agree and it's depressing. Not sure if it's better to be part of the unbrainwashed 49% or the brainwashed 51%.
August 25, 2008
12:20 p.m.
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demswin08 writes:
Fredjones:
Its probably better to be part of the brainwashed 51%.... ignorance is bliss.
They have less stress and will live longer.
Ironically, they will probably live long enough to collect social security (which they are desperately trying to destroy!!!) go figure.
August 25, 2008
12:58 p.m.
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Liverlips writes:
Gotta say that these concerts help the GOP. Every 4 years Bruce Springsteen, John Cougar, Bon Jovi, Barbra Streisand and the rest give these free concerts where they yodel and strum and laud the Democratic nominee.
The message is that the rich and famous -- the beautiful ones - support the Dems. That turns off middle America, most of whom are not so beautiful or rich.
And isn't it getting a bit ridiculous for singers like Bruce Springsteen to play at Democratic conventions? Only white people like Bruce and Bon Jovi. Yet the attendees are increasingly non-white.
August 25, 2008
1:01 p.m.
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disenfranchised_libertarian writes:
ragnarb: "They may be from New Jersey, but do not live the life of the typical struggling, over taxed Garden Stater. I've stopped listening to both these fools. Their music isn't good enough to where I can suspend imagination enough to seperate them from that music. Many of my fellow Jerseyites feel the same."
Politics aside, I don't believe I've ever met someone from New Jersey who doesn't like Springsteen. Growing up there, he was kind of a demi-god.
From a poll in Rasmussen Reports 19 days ago - "On a lighter note, Bruce is the king of rock and roll in New Jersey, according to voters. Fifty-nine percent (59%) of voters say Springsteen, who just finished a string of shows in the state in late July, is the Garden State’s king of rock and roll, while 27% of voters give that title to Jon Bon Jovi."
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publi...
August 25, 2008
1:05 p.m.
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SarahTX2 writes:
Bruce was nonpolitical until the George Bush era forced us all to re-think what kind of country we have become. Bruce has been consistently awesome in his political statements since we saw ourselves become torturers, warmongers, and big-time money wasters. Thank you, Bruce, a thousand times.
"If you love this land of the free
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
Bring them back from overseas
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home"
August 25, 2008
2:32 p.m.
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Rbcc writes:
Not much of a Bon Jovi fan, but Bruce Springsteen has been the most important artistic voice in America over the past 30 years -- particularly when it comes to examining, in song, the meaning of this country. Having him perform at the Obama nomination acceptance is a real coup and lends some real prestige to the proceedings.
August 25, 2008
2:39 p.m.
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JasperDog writes:
Word has it that McCain has asked the Four Tops to perform at the Republican convention. Perhaps they will change the lyrics of "Seven Rooms of Gloom" to Seven Houses.
August 25, 2008
2:43 p.m.
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Kilroy1965 writes:
@SarahTX2. You consider our brave troops in the armed forces to be "torturers, warmongers, and big-time money wasters." Or just Americans in general? You are truly representative of the self-loathing, anti-American degenerates who are currently polluting downtown Denver with their seditious and treasonous ways.
August 25, 2008
3 p.m.
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GETaDAMNclue writes:
Ole Bruce must be a little senile because he truly has forgotten was his lyrics used to be all about.....
Bruce Lyrics: Work hard, pay your dues, you'll come out on top
Obama Views: Don't work, be lazy, collect money from hardworking/honest citizens
It's a shame McCain is the next best option, but come on people. Have we really forgotten what hardwork and what earing YOUR keep is all about?
August 25, 2008
3:55 p.m.
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theclaw123 writes:
Bruce,
I grew up in Freehold, New Jersey. My family was as middle class as you my friend. I got an education and made a life for my family without ever taking a dime from the public dole - just like you did! So why are you siding with a Socialist that's deadset on taking the money that I earn and giving it to people that aren't working to make it on their own? Sorry pal. I love the music, but you're message is a tired mess that belongs to a generation of pot smokers.
We're organizing our communities to vote against socialism.
-George
August 25, 2008
4:16 p.m.
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Squirt writes:
Bah, Bah!
Here comes the SHEEPLE led by phenomenally " Super Rich"
high school graduates, Bruce Springsteen and Bon Jovi!
August 25, 2008
4:34 p.m.
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mytwosense writes:
Awful music. Seriously, Bon Jovi? That is whitebread Republican Rock if ever I heard it, but oh well. I guess even some libs have terrible taste in music.
August 25, 2008
5:15 p.m.
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KarlCheney writes:
I find it funny how people will either like or dislike actors or musicians simply because of their political views. People miss out on a lot of good movies and music because of closed minds...
August 25, 2008
6:10 p.m.
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pete10000ft writes:
I'd rather have them side with aging rock stars then nut jobs like Jerry Fallwell or some other psuedo christian who uses a pulpit to line their pockets all the while preaching hypocrasy at the cost of gullable sheep..er, parishoners.
It'll be fun to see who John "How many houses do I have, again?" McCain trots out in the twin cities...
I'm sure he's waiting for his staff to get back to him and tell him what he thinks about all this.
August 25, 2008
7:03 p.m.
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littlemike writes:
SarahTX2 writes:
"Bruce was nonpolitical until the George Bush era forced us all to re-think what kind of country we have become."
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WRONG!!! Bruce has been political for decades, dating back to his participation in the "No nukes" concerts (which we can thank for ditching non-polluting nuclear energy and becoming more dependent on foreign oil for our electricity) and has supported every libtard Demo ever since.
August 25, 2008
7:11 p.m.
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littlemike writes:
Rbcc writes:
"Not much of a Bon Jovi fan, but Bruce Springsteen has been the most important artistic voice in America over the past 30 years -- particularly when it comes to examining, in song, the meaning of this country. Having him perform at the Obama nomination acceptance is a real coup and lends some real prestige to the proceedings."
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A "real coup"??? Get real, that's not a coup but a no-brainer, as kneejerk liberal Springsteen would support the lib Dem if it were Spongebob Squarepants.
And if the candidate is so pathetic that he needs some aging rocker to "lend some real prestige to the proceedings," it just proves how much he lacks substance, and I pity Oback Barama in November.
August 25, 2008
7:39 p.m.
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bluecollarbytes writes:
Bruce was preachin all along. It's only natural he would continue to preach down to the little folk who haven't made the 'kind of money it takes to be smart', like him. Bon Jovi-fine pop music, opinions meaningless. Bruce's music is great. But then I never cared much about the words. His early stuff is the Best, like that of most musical artists. Something happens to them-self indulgence maybe.
August 25, 2008
8:35 p.m.
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fluffybunny writes:
If conservatives produced great musicians/actors/writers like Bruce Springsteen, James Taylor etc. (endless list), they wouldn't be reduced to whining about them. Well, I guess they'll always have Tom Selleck.
August 25, 2008
8:42 p.m.
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thrud writes:
littlemike:
WRONG!!! Bruce has been political dating back to his participation in the "No nukes" concerts (which we can thank for ditching non-polluting nuclear energy)
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Umm, no. Nuclear power creates lots of pollution. Most notably the tens of thousands of tons of highly toxic radioactive waste that is stored in swimming pools onsite of nuclear plants. Its lethal for 10s of thousands of years and now our government wants to ship it all to Utah. They'll use our decaying rail system to do it, and ride thousands of tons the stuff past our houses at 2AM just hoping nothing goes wrong. The nuclear industry is pushing hard now saying it doesn't produce greenhouse gases, but simply mining the uranium and plutonium creates massive amounts. The elements exist only in small quantities in nature and getting at it is an ugly process: lots of heavy machinery burning gas and mountaintop removal casting toxins into watersheds and such. Like it or not, left or right, Bruce and the hippies were right back then in protesting nuclear power. Its not clean and its not cheap and its an accident waiting to happen. We need to focus on energy efficiency, supplemented with wind, solar and tidal power generation if we ever hope to remove the Middle Eastern yoke from our necks.
And yes, Bon Jovi is a terrible choice. Not gonna argue there. Though if JBJ flys around on a cable dressed in tiger print spandex like in that old music video, I will change my mind.
August 25, 2008
9:05 p.m.
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dennis2008 writes:
Shut up and play your guitar!
August 25, 2008
10:20 p.m.
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speakthetruth writes:
The Boss and Bon Jovi, nice!!
I wonder who'll perform at Exxon McSame's convention...
The guys who sang "Muscrat Love" or Billy don't a hero"? How about the drummer from ABBA?? Man... It's gonna' be a hot show!!
August 25, 2008
11:13 p.m.
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chadm writes:
It's really disappointing to see my favorite band, Bon Jovi, so actively support a socialist candidate. I think the song Jon was Livin' on a PRAYER...perhaps he'll change it for Thurs and perform "Livin' Off the Government" for an appreciative Dem crowd. I guess Jon Bon Jovi is just dumb enough to believe that the Dems stand up for the "little guy." What a farce.
As for Springsteen...he's so left wing that it doesn't mean much of anything for him to show up. It would be like Streisand making an appearance...big whoop. We know all these celebs are rich enough to support socialism for the rest of us working people. Just shut up and sing.
But I'm curious...will Bon Jovi and Springsteen take donations up for Obama's brother over in Africa who is living in a shack on $1 a month? Obama is such a freakin' hypocrite. The people out there with two or more brain cells operating will figure this guy out. Don't vote for "change" without knowing what you'll be changing to.
August 26, 2008
6:22 a.m.
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redraz9 writes:
If Bon Jovi performs for Obambi, it will be the end of a very long love affair. I have been a huge fan from day one, but this will do it for me.
If his loyalties shift for Hillary to Obama, I'm done and I won't be the only one. He should think long and hard about this. Obama supporters are not the ones buying Bon Jovi music and going to his concerts.
August 26, 2008
6:31 a.m.
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CORiverRat writes:
Bruce if you are truly coming to Denver I can only say one thing:
Stand up and sing with all your heart. Blue Collar America, the America of the Middle Class who you so artfully note in your songs and words that has been left behind since 1980 needs another Woody Guthrie to let them know that yes, THIS LAND IS OUR LAND (a protest song) and yes, we were all BORN IN THE USA (another protest song) and yes, OUR CITY, and our nation, IS IN RUINS thanks to the likes of Reagan, Bush I and II and the likes of John McCain who was MIA while his party trashed America and the American Dream.
Everyone stand up and let your voices carry across the mountain tops and the plains, everyone cry out and let our words be heard from sea to shining sea. Stand up America and remember that YES WE CAN when we all decide to take our hopes and dreams back from those who have tried to steal them for the last 30 years. YES WE CAN rise up and once again become a great nation. YES WE CAN give our children a better and brighter world. Don't listen to those who tell you it can't be done. Because together, with our hearts and souls engaged, YES WE CAN return America to its proper place in this world and end the reign of darkness and despair that McCain would like to continue for four more years if we don't sing out and be proud and loud.
YES WE CAN!!!!!!!
August 26, 2008
9:02 a.m.
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RockyMtnMac writes:
I agree! YES WE CAN! Take back our country from the evil republicans. We need another administration like the Clinton era! The eight years that the Dems where in control led us directly to 9-11 (Oh - sorry, I wasn't supposed to remember how that ended was I?) I was in DC partying with Babs, Bon Jovi, Springsteen, etc and I totally forgot to pay attention to little things like the entire middle east (my bad). I just want Obama in the White House so I can stick my head back in the sand, send all of our money overseas, kiss a little middle eastern @#$ and be happy there is a Dem in charge of our safety.
August 26, 2008
10:16 a.m.
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rickg19611 writes:
Springsteen? Bon Jovi?
Sounds like the "change" that produced Biden.
Roll out some 1970s and 1980s has-beens, and proclaim it is "change".
August 26, 2008
11:06 a.m.
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BruceM3 writes:
Their politics aside, Springsteen and Bon Jovi are extremely talented artists. I do appreciate all the hard work they put into their careers and think it's wonderful the level of success they have achieved. The thought that such people who have made such lives for themselves and will never have to worry about making a mortgage payment or be concerned that energy and food prices will force them to make any sort of sacrifice whatsoever are in touch with the "common man" or use their names to promote class warfare is more than a bit strange to me.
If they want to champion a cause, more power to them, but they should expend their own time, money and energy in the effort and make a difference on a level that really counts, instead of promoting a culture of victimhood and government handouts that Mr. Obama champions.
August 26, 2008
2:19 p.m.
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jmfslots writes:
Denver News sourses cannot agree on anything- according to the Post- today- Bon Jovi will not be here and Springsteen will. Last night they said Bov Jovi would and Springsteen will not. What gives?
Denver Post 8/26/2008
"Jon Bon Jovi won't be playing a show before presumptive Barack Obama accepts his party's nomination Thursday at Invesco Field.
Bon Jovi has no plans — and never had any plans — to come to Colorado during the Democratic National Convention, a artists representative said Tuesday afternoon.
Reports published elsewhere last week suggested Bon Jovi would join Bruce Springsteen at Invesco.
Springsteen's handlers haven't denied the reports that the Boss will play Invesco Field after Obama's speech. In a recent letter posted on his website, Springsteen endorsed Obama for president.
crowds you, and nobody goes it alone.' "
August 26, 2008
10:23 p.m.
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Creative_N_Denver writes:
The Boss, Bon Jovi ? Who cares? All the bickering over the canidates is foolish. Getting off the couch, walking out the door and catching a ride to the polls on voting day is what counts! It won't matter who you want as a President as long as you sit at home not voting. Make your voice count- VOTE!
August 27, 2008
2:15 p.m.
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cattletracks writes:
Wow. I do not recognize my country anymore. (And yes, it is mine, as much as it is yours). So many of the comments posted here are hateful, angry ramblings that I do not understand. I would expect that not everyone might care for the music of Bruce Springstein or Jon Bon Jovi, but when it comes down to name calling because you disagree with another's political affiliation? Our forefathers would not only be saddened but shocked on how divided this nation has become. There are accusations of "socialism" being regurgitated here, and by the sounds of things, I do not think the writers have a clue what that even means. It sounds as if some of the people here will not be happy until there is only one political party. You're headed down a dangerous road and you have no clue what you're wishing for.
August 27, 2008
3:31 p.m.
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greenparrot writes:
I think Bruce & Bon Jovi are perfect choices to end the DNC.
They both are from working class families and express that
sentiment in their music which is the base of the Democratic Party.
I think McCain should have the singer, Michael Ball, end his
RNC with the song "Losing my Mind" as he clearly suffers
from signs of mild to moderate dementia.
Seriously, I do not know how long the Republican Party can hide this fact. I'm sure they have him on medication. But, it can not be kept a secret forever - the episodes displaying dementia are happening in more frequency. I heard last week, they took away his cell phone, thinking it would make him more focused. It will not work, because it is a disease. They can not have Lieberman or Crist by his side, every time he is questioned by a reporter. I also believe that this is why he was given the questions ahead of time before the Saddlebrook event. I think McCain might have been a Maverick years ago, but that is not the case now. I actually feel sorry for him because he definitely is not the man he once was. This disease will take it's toll. The Republican party would be endangering the security of the US to allow a candidate with this condition. But, typical of the Republicans to deny anything is wrong or to try to cover it up. I, personally do not think it will work. This is not the 1980's - Youtube is everywhere. I am
surprised the media is not reporting on it more - oh, I forgot -
we don't have real media anymore.
August 27, 2008
11:49 p.m.
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TheTruthSayer writes:
Hey "greenparrot", if you're taking a cheapshot at Reagan through your "1980's" comment, forget about it. He didn't suffer from any mental issues until years after he was shot. If you knew anything of "Hyrdoshock" theory, you would understand this. He was a brilliant man, and one with the Tenacity, Ambition, and Righteousness to help bring about an end to issues such as The Iranian Hostage Crisis, Qaddafi's Terrorist Threat, The Taking Down of The Berlin Wall, Repelling Communist Forces in Nicaragua, and Afghanistan, and Terrorists in Lebanon to name a Few Places, and Last But Most Certainly NOT Least, He Had a MAJOR Part in Bringing Down the ENTIRE Soviet Union. You should choose your words more carefully when you choose whom to insult, as you have taken a side-swipe at one of the Greatest Presidents in American History. You will even be hard pressed to find a Non-Socialist Democrat who doesn't at least Admire many of Ronald Reagan's Accomplishments.
August 28, 2008
12:20 a.m.
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TheTruthSayer writes:
"Cattletracks", I am not sure of all of the "Socialist" labelling, but the Democrat Party is currently being run by Socialists. The Party has been hijacked by the illegitimate child of the Flag-Burning, San Francisco based, 1960's bred Anarchist Movement. Barack Obama IS a Socialist, and even many within his own Party Acknowledge this (Including Hillary Clinton). I am not taking Partisan sides, this is simply a hard to acknowledge reality. For instance, here we have Obama wishing for "Universal Healthcare", but do you realize what this entails? For starters, in order to implement such an idea into reality, you need a Socialist to Far Left Communist Government. This is a necessity as creating "Universal Healthcare" requires Government Controlled Programs. Currently we receive Healthcare through Corporations, which in of itself represents Free Enterprise, AKA Capitalism, AKA The American Economic System since it's Birth. To reign such Free Enterprise in, and to Control it through the Federal Government, is to chip away at the very Capitalistic Foundation that is America. Not to mention that the current Nations with "Universal Healthcare" ARE in fact Socialist Governments, just in case you need some proof. Also, within these Nations, their Tax Rates are SKY HIGH. Try Sweden for Instance, where they have "Free Healthcare", yet their Tax Rate is over 45%. In Denmark, a Socialist Nation as Well, their Tax Rate is 60%. Do you wish to pay this much for "Free" Services? In doing so, do you not also lose serious Financial Freedom?
So yes, some might throw the term "Socialist" around in a reckless manner, but in regards to Barack Obama, he IS quite the Socialist.
August 28, 2008
1:04 a.m.
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greenparrot writes:
Hate to break it to you truthsayer he was shot in 1981.
He served from 1980-1988. Your use of the word "several
years later" means what? Reagan showed clear signs of dementia during his second term and for the record Dementia is not caused by gun shot wounds. I do not think Reagan was a "great president", only created in the media. In fact, the most famous speech he gave (which he did not write) with the phrase "Tear down that wall" was not to be in the speech" but he forgot. It turned out to be a success. I do not credit Reagan with the fall of the Soviet Union. It happened on its own because of economic decline. And if you do not remember, when Reagan was in office, interest rates were 21-17 percent and we had the fall of the Savings & Loans. I will not go into the history of the times, as I'm sure you can read all about it. But, we live in different times. McCain's present forgetfulness is my present concern because he displays signs of dementia; it is not abnormal for his age. What is abnormal is that people voting Republican (I am a registered Republican) do not seem to care, or deny they notice it. Oh, and I meant to say, Saddleback Church - but I guarantee, I will not make that mistake repeatedly. I saw on T.V. the other night, Romney. They were asking him if he was being considered as VP. I saw him speak and talk - all I could think was "What has the Republican Party done". We have McCain as a presidential candidate that thinks Putin is president of Germany. Needless to say, I will not be voting Republican this year.
August 28, 2008
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greenparrot writes:
Oh, I forgot to mention. Reagan was not responsible for the release of the Iranian hostages - Carter was. Negotiations were going on for many months before Reagan took office - Carter
never said anything during his campaign because he did not want to risk the plan not working. Shortly after Reagan took office the hostages were released and "miraculously" the media and Reagan
administration took credit for the act. Not to say Carter would ever had been re elected - gas price and shortages was his downfall. That was the time in the late 70's to now, that administrations - whether republican or democratic, failed the American people by not pursuing alternative energy. All the other
conflicts you mentioned under the Reagan Administration are many of the reasons we are in the mess we are in today. Oh, I long for the Reagan years. Not. Won't even discuss Bush, because I believe everyone is in agreement there. I think both parties are a mess. I just like the music better at the DNC than the RNC (I don't care for Brooks & Dunn).