Spike Lee: 'I don't do Fox News'
Mike Romano, Special to the Rocky
Published August 24, 2008 at 6:45 p.m.
Updated August 24, 2008 at 9:55 p.m.
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Filmmaker Spike Lee is surrounded by media Sunday at Mezcal Restaurant in Denver.
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MEZCAL — Director Spike Lee hit town early Sunday evening for a reception for black state lawmakers at trendy East Colfax Mexican restaurant Mezcal.
He immediately was engulfed in a horde of media, showing his true liberal political colors when one reporter, identifying himself as a correspondent for Fox News, asked Lee a question. The actor snapped, "I don't do Fox News,'' and immediately disappeared into the restaurant, which was closed to the media — not just Fox. Several other celebs joined Lee for the event, including Alfre Woodard and Matthew Modine.
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August 24, 2008
7:03 p.m.
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LadyBird112 writes:
That is awesome. I can totally see Spike Lee doing this.
August 24, 2008
7:07 p.m.
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gwats writes:
Spike knows the devil when he sees him. Fox News is a serious joke.
August 24, 2008
7:20 p.m.
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August 24, 2008
7:24 p.m.
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HopiMedicineMan writes:
Who is Spike Lee?
August 24, 2008
7:32 p.m.
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navymom writes:
Hopi, I think that Spike Lee is some guy that some people know and like, but for the life of me when I hear the name all that comes to mind is a 90's haircut for boys. My son had his hair "spiked" when he was little.
Maybe someone can tell me why I should care about what any "hollywood" type thinks anyway and did anyone notice that this reception was for "black" state lawmakers. At least they went to a "Mexican" restaurant so they wouldn't appear racist. I hope they all eat the worm and miss the convention!
August 24, 2008
8:02 p.m.
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LadyBird112 writes:
Spike Lee was also a tornado today, since this is the third time I've clicked on the tornado story and was brought here.
August 24, 2008
8:07 p.m.
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August 24, 2008
8:08 p.m.
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1world writes:
Apparently 98% of Americans are idiots according to RickG.
August 24, 2008
8:09 p.m.
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HopiMedicineMan writes:
Navymom, I don't know those other names either! I've been an aspiring eagle too long. Maybe I need to be a crow or bug for awhile? Of course when you're a bug there's no aspiration at all.
August 24, 2008
8:13 p.m.
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Who_Me writes:
How funny. I don't do Spike Lee. And shame on RMN for spewing bogus "news" stories like this. WTF does Spike Lee have to contribute to anything newsworthy?
August 24, 2008
8:13 p.m.
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HopiMedicineMan writes:
"When I breathed, my breath was lightning." --Black Elk
August 24, 2008
8:21 p.m.
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Barron writes:
Ha ha!!!! Go Spike! That's a great story. Its nice to live in a free country, isn't it?
August 24, 2008
8:23 p.m.
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H20 writes:
rickg19611 I believe your numbers are inaccurate. How can a Right winged based news company be 98% popular?
You go Spike!!!
August 24, 2008
8:26 p.m.
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Aaron writes:
A reception for "black state lawmakers"? What the heck is that all about?
Imagine a reception for "white state lawmakers". There would be hell to pay from our Mayor, Governor, in the media and on the streets. And it is unchallenged that there is a reception for "black state lawmakers"? This unquestioned racism is one of the key platforms of the Democratic party, and one of the key reasons that I left that party many years ago. Black Chamber of Commerce, Black Congressional Caucus...black this and hispanic that and the "poor me, I'm an unrepresented victim of that 'ol racist whitey" just continues the racist victim mentality that fuels the constituency of the Democratic party. Disgusting.
And Spike Lee makes a film called "White Men Can't Jump", and nobody questions his stereotypical racism. Lord help anyone that made a film perhaps called "Young Black Men Can't Use Verbs".
August 24, 2008
8:30 p.m.
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H20 writes:
Poor Aaron do you feel left out? Perhaps because you didn't get invited to the dinner. I sense a bit of racism in your response!!
August 24, 2008
8:32 p.m.
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Sensible writes:
another very important note
Thanks RMN!
August 24, 2008
8:33 p.m.
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mytwosense writes:
Ha ha! Love it. I'll definitely "do" Spike's next film!
August 24, 2008
8:41 p.m.
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views_on_news writes:
Rickg,
Too funny. But I always like to think of a glass as half full, not half empty, so shouldn't it be that 98% of America doesn't like Spike?
August 24, 2008
8:43 p.m.
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Aaron writes:
Poor H2O, unable to address substantive questions and issues.
An all-too-common tactic is to attempt to offend when presented with issues that require intelligent thought. There is no reasoning with your ilk, so I send you my blessings.
Enjoy your four-day love fest.
August 24, 2008
8:44 p.m.
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BO writes:
Oh Wise One-
As luck would have it, Spike's in town, tough guy. Just head downtown- you might run into him (or do you prefer to make idle threats from the safety of your keyboard). I got $20 that says he lays you out cold, especially if you make another remark about his lips.
Aaron-
"And Spike Lee makes a film called "White Men Can't Jump", and nobody questions his stereotypical racism."
You apparently haven't seen an NBA game recently. Besides, the film is a comedy, and about 15 years old now (and the white guy dunks on 2 black guys at the end of the movie- how racist against whites is that?!).
Amazing how so many people get so bent out of shape because someone they don't personally know doesn't like a specific TV network.
August 24, 2008
8:51 p.m.
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BO writes:
Aaron-
And you enjoy the TV coverage of your 4-day love fest from St. Paul as well. Don't hurt your wrist!
August 24, 2008
8:52 p.m.
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Barron writes:
wisey, I don't know, his lips look pretty average to me. Perhaps they look big to someone who just has a slash in their face for a mouth.
August 24, 2008
8:55 p.m.
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navymom writes:
dealmkr, I hope my comment about it being for "black" lawmakers did not offend you.
I know that Spike Lee does not represent the entire black community, but I think that part of what divides us today is groups like "black" state lawmakers receptions, the "black" congressional caucus and others. Aaron is right when he says there would be "hell to pay" if we had things like white state lawmakers receptions or the white congressional caucus. I am for being more inclusive. If you are a democrat, the you are part of the democratic congressional caucus. If you are republican, you are part of the republican congressional caucus. There is no need to have racial caucuses to divide.
August 24, 2008
8:55 p.m.
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trinidad writes:
isn't spike lee on the "has been" list? must be coming out with a new movie soon and needs the publicity. took a page from rosies book.
August 24, 2008
8:56 p.m.
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H20 writes:
Assumptions my friend Aaron, I believe is the problem. It's amazing how narrow-minded people can be.........
August 24, 2008
9:01 p.m.
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timeandagain writes:
BO - I think Oh wise one takes Spike Lee easy. Do you know that Spike Lee is like 5'2"?? He doesn't weigh 125 wet.
Really though, I don't understand the point of this story...even for a 4th tier newspaper.
August 24, 2008
9:02 p.m.
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Aaron writes:
dealmkr - I would find it equally repugnant to see a film come out titled "Young Black Men Can't Use Verbs". That is the point, albeit I was not clear enough in my initial posting.
August 24, 2008
9:05 p.m.
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Barron writes:
time and again, lOL! And yet, here you are. not only reading the article, but taking the time to comment. LOL!
August 24, 2008
9:12 p.m.
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mytwosense writes:
trinidad writes: "isn't spike lee on the "has been" list? must be coming out with a new movie soon and needs the publicity."
Then he would have been happy to do an interview. The truth is, there is nothing shocking at all about his statement. A lot of prominent people refuse to do interviews with Fox "News."
August 24, 2008
9:12 p.m.
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Finding_Forever writes:
LOL and this is why Spike is, and always will be the man!
August 24, 2008
9:13 p.m.
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commoncents writes:
If there was not the racists remnants of our past there would be no need for "black" this or "hispanic" that. Groups like this exist to ensure that there is a voice to represent groups that would be left out if certain people had their way. If you do not get it you probably are one of those people. One day there wont be a need for any of that, I think the report that came out said 2053 is when they project that white people would not be the majority. Until then than your forefathers for your dilemma.
August 24, 2008
9:15 p.m.
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dragonfly writes:
Who cares what Spike Lee says.
August 24, 2008
9:16 p.m.
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ColoradoDave writes:
hmmm how many ways is this story wrong?
First: Mezcal is not a "Trendy"East Colfax Restaurant. Mezcal is a mediocre at best restaurant. I was next door at Goosetown and I was thinking "what second rate hack has booked Mezcal?"
Second: There were not throngs. I stopped into Goosetown afterwork. It was obvious form 5:00 that there was more media than people. In fact it was the presence of the media circus which made this a story. Had the media not been there Mr. Lee and his guests could have popped into the restaurant for dinner with no one being the wiser.
Third: Yea I suppose he "immediately was engulfed in a horde of media" but there really was no one else there engulfing him. Maybe a dozen regulars at Goosetown with maybe half of them rubbernecking. Other than that no one seemed to care. Other than that it was mostly a curiosity to most of the patrons. Any Sunday afternoon Goosetown and Mezcal will have their patios filled with people drinking and smoking. It is a rather relaxed atmosphere. The media created a circus for the media to report. Wow, what a surprise.
This is a total non-story and does not deserve to be covered by the Rocky. Well...since the Rocky is a crappy tabloid which could learn about journalism and ethics from the New York Post, I can see how the bush-leaguers at the Rocky would consider this a newsworthy event. If I was a journalist in Denver I would be embarrassed at how amateur the local papers and TV stations will be portrayed.
The Democratic National Convention: Where the citizins of Denver learn about velvet ropes and where the rest of the nation learns how horrible Denver journalism has become.
The Rocky Mountain News can stoop much lower, lets spend the next five days and see how bad it is.
August 24, 2008
9:19 p.m.
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BO writes:
timeandagain-
Its the size of the fight in the dog...
I do agree with you on the story, and yet it will be an all-day senation on Fox tomorrow. Another example of their fair and balanced reporting. They might even bring in Coulter to sound off on this.
August 24, 2008
9:33 p.m.
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August 24, 2008
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August 24, 2008
9:43 p.m.
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jugdish writes:
"I don't do Fox News". Who cares! Cover someone who matters. There are hundreds of influential political and business leaders in town for the DNC and you interview Spike Lee? And give him a big headline? Why? As a reader, I want to know what the difference makers have to say, not some guy from Hollywood. Besides, when did Spike Lee ever Do The "Right" Thing?
August 24, 2008
9:45 p.m.
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H20 writes:
dealmrk- I agree with you to some extent but White people or should I say sub-cultural white groups must do the same. These groups are found in all races. Not just Hispanics and blacks
August 24, 2008
10:15 p.m.
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ShadyGrady writes:
It's gotta be the shoes, Mars.
August 24, 2008
10:18 p.m.
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woodwose writes:
H2O: dealmrk makes a good point, the Democratic Party has always been the party that doesn't care who you are but what you are, and it's been that way for a long time. Look at Bill Clinton's first term, he nominated Zoe Baird for Attorney General only to withdraw her due to a scandal of employing an illegal alien nanny, then nominated Kimba Wood, only to withdraw her for the same reason and then settled on Janet Reno.
It's pretty obvious that the OVERRIDING concern was NOT who would be the best possible Attorney General, but that a woman would be Attorney General. And that is no way to run a railroad, much less a country.
Democrats are all about separating themselves into these little identity groups and then building coalitions. The black, gay lawyers group joins with the lesbian union organizers and the pregnant vegan wiccans into a larger coalition that starts enforcing that all these little groups adhere to a strict liberal orthodoxy.
That's why the National Organization of Women's California Chapter president was excommunicated from the group when she spoke out against OJ Simpson's brutal treatment and probable murder of his former wife. NOW was tied to the NAACP in a liberal coalition, and the "group-mind" of the coalition determined it was more important for a black man to get away with murder than it was to denounce violence against women in this particular case.
That's also why NOW supported Bill Clinton through the Monica Lewinsky scandal, even though for years they'd been yelling about sexual harrassment and quid-pro-quo arrangements in the workplace, and Clinton's actions were a textbook example of what NOW was fundamentally built to oppose.
But Democrats aren't confident enough to stand individually for their views, they have to have the protection of the group. And even when their group abandons it's principles to subsume itself to the larger liberal orthodoxy, they don't have the courage of their convictions or the faith in their principles to speak out against their group.
That more than any reason is why the Democratic Party and it's liberal orhodoxy must be opposed. Allowed to take complete control of society, it's orthodxy will grow more radical, more insane, and less tolerant of opposing views. You see signs of that everyday, like the FOX News reporter today getting surrounded by a mob of liberal idiots that all probably thought they were being courageous by standing up to a guy that was outnumbered 150 to 1.
If you are so insecure in your views that you have to silence others, you need to open your mind and think for a change rather than parrotting what your little group tells you to think.
August 24, 2008
10:40 p.m.
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LuvAmerica writes:
I hardly think this is showing "liberal colors" to have an issue with Fox "News". I think anyone with critical thinking skills might have issues with Fox and their bastardization of the Fourth Estate.
August 24, 2008
10:42 p.m.
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bxwatso writes:
I saw a survey that showed that 33% of Fox viewers are Dems and 39% are GOP. Pretty even balance. That means Spike does not want to speak to hundreds of thousands of Dems.
August 24, 2008
10:43 p.m.
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FredFlintstone writes:
"1world writes:
Apparently 98% of Americans are idiots according to RickG."
1world, the 98% has a sampling error of +/- 4%
August 24, 2008
10:46 p.m.
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H20 writes:
Woodwose, once again assumptions, you have no Idea my political views and who I will decide to vote for in November. Open your mind and STOP assuming what you don't know or believing what FOX news decides to tell you. Oh and by the way I don't belong to any little group!!
August 24, 2008
11:01 p.m.
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commoncents writes:
Dealmkr,
I hardly think the black or hispanic caucus propagate hatred. Nor would I call them subcultures. They are simply organizations that give people a voice. You might want to get a history book out and find out how they came to exist and why. Then you may get an appreciation for what life could return to when they were not around and not repeat that part of our history again.
I am all for people coming together, but until all people are for the same thing it would be foolish to disband everything that has a moniker that people simply don't fully understand.
Sounds like you might have made it up to the house a little sooner than some of the other folks out in the field.
August 25, 2008
5:25 a.m.
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stansoup56 writes:
Spike Lee - another anti-American. Who cares what Spike has to say, anyway? He's a non-factor, and his movies are all bombs. Go back to Hollywierd Spike.
August 25, 2008
6:20 a.m.
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ham writes:
I don't do Spike Lee.
August 25, 2008
6:27 a.m.
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brownman writes:
"And Spike Lee makes a film called "White Men Can't Jump", and nobody questions his stereotypical racism. Lord help anyone that made a film perhaps called "Young Black Men Can't Use Verbs"."
Aaron, you need to get your facts straight...Spike Lee did not write or direct "White Men Can't Jump". Ron Shelton (white guy), who wrote and directed "Bull Durham", wrote and directed "White Men Can't Jump".
Speaking of stereotypical racism, the movie could have been called "Black Men Can't Find Steady Jobs" since that was the plight of one of the main characters in the movie. Did anyone question Ron Shelton's stereotypical racism?
August 25, 2008
7:17 a.m.
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T1anda writes:
Spike who??? My neighbor had a butt-ugly dog named Spike. He peed on their living room carpet daily.
August 25, 2008
7:54 a.m.
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saveferris writes:
Faux News...We Distort, You Comply....
August 25, 2008
8:56 a.m.
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Jakeson writes:
Thats alright, I don't do spike lee. With this kind of narrow minded attitude, I am not every likely to from now on.
August 25, 2008
9:06 a.m.
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Woodrow writes:
Ha Ha, I love it… Fox news is a joke. Spike Lee has more credibility on the tip of his middle finger than all of you loser republicans put together.
August 25, 2008
9:12 a.m.
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raysmom writes:
I am a registered Dem, but not in essence, I guess, after reading these posts. Yes, it is wonderful to live in a free country, and Spike Lee can talk to whomever he chooses to and chooses not to. But the comments here, like "faux news", etc., show the lack of tolerance and lack of wisdom that is so prevalent in the left these days. Who better to talk to than people you disagree with? But I suppose it is to be expected from the party that has it's biggest players picketing their own party- a lack of courage- you only want attention, not bridge-building, What hypocrisy! Republicans debate w/CNN running the show, but Dems refuse to debate w/Fox mediators- it's all very telling, and has nothing to do with race other than when the left chooses to use that excuse whenever challenged. There are plenty of open-minded people of color, even on the dreaded Fox News. Just what are you libs AFRAID of?
August 25, 2008
9:15 a.m.
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raysmom writes:
gmo80 says: "Ha Ha, I love it… Fox news is a joke. Spike Lee has more credibility on the tip of his middle finger than all of you loser republicans put together."
Exactly what I'm talking about. Can you defend your position with facts, not prejudice and rhetoric?
August 25, 2008
9:17 a.m.
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Kile writes:
I find it funny that Spike refuses to speak to the ONLY news channel that tells both sides of every story. Apparently, he prefers the pro Barack Hussein Obama leanings of all the other networks. I guess that in itself says alot.
August 25, 2008
9:26 a.m.
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NotYours writes:
If you are concerned about celebrity political opinions, you have serious mental/emotional issues and should not vote.
August 25, 2008
9:50 a.m.
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MildlyAmused1 writes:
"Then he would have been happy to do an interview. The truth is, there is nothing shocking at all about his statement. A lot of prominent people refuse to do interviews with Fox "News."
Exactly. Lots of "prominent" empty-headed liberal Kool-Aid drinkers refuse to have any conversation with ANYONE who might cause them to question their long held (and often unsubstantiated) political opinions. These people belong to the anti-Free Speech wing of the Democratic Party and are really just Socialists and Communists masquerading as Americans. Like Spike, these folks just surround themseleves with people who think exactly like they do and thus provide a false sense of intelligence as they all tell each other how smart they are. These are pathetic losers who cannot compete in a captialist economy. At least the conservatives have the stones to go onto left wing echo chambers like CNN, MSNBC, and NBC News. The liberals are simply terrified to actually be challenged on the issues because they know that they would be exposed as socialists instead of hiding behind the lable of Democrat. As a Libertarian, I think both major parties are a bunch of corrupt income redistributors designed to subjugate different parts of the American populace by doing for them what they ought to do for themselves. They and their supporters are all whiners and losers who can't stand on their own feet. A pox on both their houses. Of course, as always, Americans get the government that they deserve. God help us all in 2009.
August 25, 2008
9:56 a.m.
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yamahabass2 writes:
Fox News is an oxymoron.
August 25, 2008
10:04 a.m.
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broncofan73 writes:
Why won't Obama showup to be interviewed by Fox News? Because he can't answer the tough questions. He wants to go where he knows he'll be treated with softball questions, like CNN, NBC, CBS etc. Liberals are affraid of the tough questions.
You liberals are just upset that Fox News isn't in the tank for Obama every other news outlet. I dare you to find one news outlet that isn't in the tank for Obama. You won't find one, except for Fox News. By the way their not for Mccain either.
August 25, 2008
10:09 a.m.
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ruckus writes:
THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED!!!
August 25, 2008
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MildlyAmused1 writes:
"yamahabass2 writes:
Fox News is an oxymoron."
Wow. THAT really makes the point effectively. I, for one, am completely convinced (NOT). ;-)
Could someone on this thread actually post a logical and factual explanation with specific examples of how Fox News is biased? Or is this either 1) like the Emperor's new clothes where you just have to be really hip to see it? or 2) just following the Marxist play book of simply repeating a lie so often that you hope people start to believe it?
I am a Libertarian/Independent and I really don't see the bias from Fox's News people (as opposed to commentators like O'Reilly and Hannity who are clearly conservative leaning in most areas and Holmes and Van Sustern who clearly lean liberal on most issues). But I am sure that I have my own biases because I view all of the major networks as somewhat left leaning and outfits like MSNBC, CNN and NBC News as blatantly left leaning. I CAN provide real examples for this view, though (aside from the obvious proof like the 80-90% Democrat party registration and political giving of these "journalists").
August 25, 2008
10:21 a.m.
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mytwosense writes:
MildlyAmused: "Could someone on this thread actually post a logical and factual explanation with specific examples of how Fox News is biased?"
I could post many, but how about the fact that Fox News sponsored the 2004 Republican Convention?
At any rate, even conservatives fully acknowledge that Fox leans right and they're happy about that. It's no secret. And your protestations make you look rather naive.
August 25, 2008
10:26 a.m.
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yamahabass2 writes:
During an edition of The O'Reilly Factor, congressman Mark Foley, a Republican in trouble for writing sexually suggestive e-mails and instant messages to underage congressional pages, was misidentified as a Democrat in the onscreen text.
Do you think that was just a mistake, Mildly Amused?
In a 19 week study in 2003, Fox News had 50 conservative guests as opposed to 6 liberal guests. I don't dispute Fox News' right to free speech, but if you think they do not have a conservative slant, somebody needs to wake you up.
August 25, 2008
11:52 a.m.
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mytwosense writes:
And who could forget Fox referring to Michelle Obama as Barack's "Baby Mama"...and photoshopping pictures of Jewish reporters from another network to make them look like grotesque caricatures.
I mean, at this point we're even going beyond conservative bias, in fact, even beyond trashy tabloidism. This is intentionally and meanspiritedly racist stuff, and fits squarely in the category of inflammatory propaganda.
Personally, I would be embarrassed to defend Fox "News" even if I was a devout conservative.
August 25, 2008
12:03 p.m.
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Cowboy63 writes:
Of course he wont do Fox News!
1. they won't feed him softball questions that let him avoid any real issues.
2. they would expose him for the limosine liberal he is.
August 25, 2008
12:25 p.m.
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navymom writes:
While Fox News may be right of center, an interesting study was done several years ago at UCLA by political scientists.
This is from an article by Meg Sullivan at UCLA in December 2005:
"I suspected that many media outlets would tilt to the left because surveys have shown that reporters tend to vote more Democrat than Republican," said Tim Groseclose, a UCLA political scientist and the study's lead author. "But I was surprised at just how pronounced the distinctions are."
"Overall, the major media outlets are quite moderate compared to members of Congress, but even so, there is a quantifiable and significant bias in that nearly all of them lean to the left," said co‑author Jeffrey Milyo, University of Missouri economist and public policy scholar.
They found that while Fox News is right of center, only 2 out of 20 media outlets studied were right of center. The other 18 were all left of center.
This article is very interesting. You should all read it at the following link : http://www.newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/u...
August 25, 2008
12:26 p.m.
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BurningChrome writes:
Aaron-
Great comments, Thanks for a little illuminating perspective on here!
August 25, 2008
12:36 p.m.
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ratkin writes:
Exactly what about Spike Lee showing his face in public and pretending to be someone important qualified as "news" in the Rocky Mountain News? Has he said or done something of cultural value any time in the past few years? His 15 minutes of fame gave up the ghost so many years ago that his actual relevance makes a good trivia question.
Here's a good question for you. It should be pretty easy for people with a measurable IQ; liberals might find it more challenging:
Q: What the difference between Spike Lee movies and Fox News?
A: People watch Fox News.
August 25, 2008
1:50 p.m.
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coarizona writes:
(this comment was removed from the staff site)..I did it for you RMN! Just another needy celebrity quote.
August 25, 2008
2:20 p.m.
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jay writes:
I don't know why Spike doesn't do Fox News as it is some of the best entertainment on television.
navymom, i wonder if you also saw the study that showed that Fox News has the least intelligent viewership among news channels....yikes.
August 25, 2008
2:37 p.m.
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familyortiz writes:
I think Spike Lee makes great movies.
August 25, 2008
4:05 p.m.
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navymom writes:
jay, I am tired of you. Your posts add nothing to an intelligent debate. You never actually debate people. You just work very hard at trying to insult people and being very obnoxious.
August 25, 2008
4:11 p.m.
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jay writes:
navymom, please don't pout.
i know i've dinged you on some badly informed positions a couple of times.
sorry.
if you do better research i think this trend will cease.
August 25, 2008
5:01 p.m.
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navymom writes:
jay, just where did you do your research that showed you the intelligence level of Fox News viewers? You have not dinged me on my positions at all because, as I said, you don't debate at all. You just insult and are obnoxious.
You only say things like "educate yourself instead of making a fool out of yourself" or "that's what i thought, gene.come back and see me when you can defend your positions with credible data. until then, try not to throw a tantrum and fling too much poo" or maybe "i see a lot of rush limbaugh fans have joined the discussion. thanks for the look into the psychology on the far right, guys. can anyone from the right half of the spectrum redeem your presence here?". But my personal favorite piece of obnoxious writing was "i see bigD's point. i don't think navymom is dumb...she's just ignorant about a few things. those are not the same things."
I am not pouting, I just choose to quit trying to debate with someone who is obnoxious. From my very first day of posting on RMN, you chose to start calling names and I have come to see that it is a habit. You have succeeded in making me mad today with your continual inability to look at a post an read what it actually says, but guess what, you don't matter in my world and I don't care.
August 25, 2008
5:26 p.m.
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jay writes:
"You have not dinged me on my positions at all because, as I said, you don't debate at all."
now come on, navymom...we both know that's true...let's not pretend otherwise.
the ignorance evident in your understanding of obama's retirement plan is the perfect example of why your position on the matter was weak due to lack of research.
as far as my words for those who fling poo...please pay attention. if i expose a weakness in your position, come to terms with it and move on...don't call me names, don't pout about it and for the love of all that is conservative in nature, don't use willful ignorance as a last resort...that's just going to make it worse. to that end, i'll repeat what you quoted above....being ignorant about an issue is not the same as being willfully ignorant about it.
i'm paraphrasing here...but you get the point.
if you don't know what you don't know because you're parrotting crap you read off the drudge report or whatever...i'm going to call you out on it....dancing around and pretending you know what you don't know, however, is just going to make me ding you that much harder.
that said, you may think i'm obnoxious for pointing out the holes in your certain brands of "logic", but please refrain from lying about me.
thanks in advance.
by the way...here's that Pew Research study you requested about fox news viewers being the least intelligent of any major news audience.
http://people-press.org/reports/displ...
please see "knowledge levels by news source"...and then notice which networks' viewers are dead last.
as i said...it's some of the best entertainment on television...but i wouldn't trust it for credible information...and apparently the data is behind me on that one.
August 25, 2008
5:54 p.m.
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BO writes:
Broncofan73
Reagrding Fox News.."By the way their not for Mccain either."
While the primary season was in full swing, with more conservative candidates still in the mix, that may have been the case. Now that he's the GOP nominee, there hasn't been much negativity about McCain on their network (unlike Obama- watch Fox and Friends some morning).
August 25, 2008
6:06 p.m.
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dandmb50 writes:
I have never understood the hatred for Fox news or the dislike. Is it because they tell the truth and ask the tough questions? Not the namby pandy questions they ask on CNN and just give "easy interviews" I don't just watch Fox, I listen to many and read many different viewpoints and then and only then do I make up my own mind. Maybe more people should do the same. The truth doesn't hurt, and sometimes it is good. I don't even live in the USA and I watch it.
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August 25, 2008
6:18 p.m.
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navymom writes:
jay, did you even bother to read your link? If you did, you would see that this study is not talking about intelligence, but about the knowledge levels of the American public on major news events with the advent of coaxial and digital media, specifically cable news and the internet, today compared to twenty years ago. The study found that the levels of knowledge have not really changed much and vary when you look at certain demographics.
The study asked 23 questions on national and international major new events and politicians in the public eye. Fox News viewers in general scored just 3 points lower than network news. Bill O'Reilly viewers scored within 3 points of the Colbert Report at the top. They simply asked questions like who is the president of Russia, the governor of your state, whether the Supreme Court Chief Justice is conservative or liberal and other general knowledge questions. They did not ask people to debate a question or form an opinion. It also was not an IQ test, which measures intelligence.
They do let you take a "news IQ test" online answering many of the same questions asked. I took it and got 11 out of 12 correct for a score of 91%, so according to the link that you give us, as a Fox News viewer I have a very high "news IQ".
Now if you want to talk intelligence, I will take an IQ test if you will.