Colorado turns purple in polls
Electorate's great divide is by age and geography
By Burt Hubbard, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)
Published August 15, 2008 at 7:09 p.m.
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Barack Obama
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John McCain
A political battle for the ages may become a battle of the ages.
Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama are neck-and-neck in Colorado, solidifying the state as a key, swing area that will be pivotal in deciding who becomes the next president of the U.S., according to a Rocky Mountain News/CBS4 News poll released Friday.
"It's a heck of a horse race in Colorado," said pollster Lori Weigel. "We're officially a purple state now."
The poll revealed sharp divisions among voters by age and geography, with the candidates' approaches to economic issues a key to winning the state.
"There is a huge generational divide," said analyst Craig Hughes, who consulted on the poll. "You really are poised to see this battle of the ages, where this youth vote can swing it."
Overall, Coloradans favored McCain 44 percent to 41 percent, but the gap was within the poll's margin of error of plus or minus 4.38 percentage points. McCain also had a slightly higher approval rating, 55 percent to 53 percent, also within the margin of error.
Generation gaps
Libertarian candidate Bob Barr received 3 percent and independent candidate Ralph Nader was favored by 2 percent of voters with 8 percent undecided.
That was the conclusion of 500 registered voters polled between Monday and Wednesday by Public Opinion Strategies.
Public Opinion Strategies generally polls for Republican candidates. RBI Strategies, a firm that generally works with Democratic candidates, consulted on the creation of the questionnaire and its analysis.
The poll found huge gaps between the youngest and oldest voters in Colorado.
Obama led McCain 56 percent to 34 percent among voters under 35 years of age and McCain led Obama 51 percent to 34 percent among those 65 and older.
"We see a massive generational split," said Weigel, partner with Public Opinion Strategies.
Weigel said there is a chance that young voters for the first time this election might be a larger voting segment than seniors.
She said Obama even loses popularity among Democrats based on age.
"Obama has a little bit of a problem with older Democrats," Weigel said.
His support among Democrats 45 years old and younger is 89 percent compared with 68 percent of those over age 45, she said.
Compass points all over
Geographical differences also abound.
Obama lags on the plains and Western Slope, but dominates in Denver. McCain is favored in the southern suburbs, while Obama is ahead in the northern suburbs.
Jobs and the economy were the No. 1 issue in Colorado voters minds when deciding whom to support for president, the poll said.
Among those voters, Obama had a slight edge - 44 percent to 38 percent.
However, voters who listed energy and gas prices as the top presidential issue favored McCain by 50 percent to 34 percent.
Both affect voters personally and will play a large role in who wins the state, said Hughes, director of research for RBI Strategies.
"In looking at the presidential race, it's how it's going to affect my life and my family," he said.
The poll had good news for both candidates, Weigel said.
The fact that McCain is neck-and-neck in a swing state where two thirds of the voters don't like the incumbent Republican is a good sign, she said.
"These are great numbers for McCain," she said, adding it shows he is projecting himself as a maverick.
Hughes said that is key for a McCain victory.
"If he is perceived as a third term for George Bush, he will lose," he said. "If McCain is perceived by voters as a man of ideas, he is well-positioned to win Colorado."
For Obama, the poll shows him leading 47 percent to 40 percent among suburban women, a key swing group in any election, Weigel said.
They also tend to be more influenced by advertising and wait until late into the election to make up their minds, she said.
"Those tend to be the segment of the electorate who are very, very open to new information."
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August 15, 2008
10:55 p.m.
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taoistblockhead writes:
You'd have to be brain dead to vote for McCain. If that's the best The Wrecking Crew can offer up and if enough American Sheeple actually believe and vote for a continuation of the last eight years, then the Republic is finished. Wrap yourselves in your flags of self-immolation and watch the descent into third world country status continue.
August 15, 2008
11:27 p.m.
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Dusty_Piniella writes:
"Jobs and the economy were the No. 1 issue in Colorado voters minds when deciding whom to support for president, the poll said.
Among those voters, Obama had a slight edge - 44 percent to 38 percent."
Whoooaaaa.....People who's #1 issue is jobs and the economy would vote for Obama? Just goes to show how uneducated about economics people really are. Raising taxes, any taxes, during a recession?.......let's see.....where have we seen that before kids.
Of course, this is all by design. Put a higher economic burden on people during a recession while the cost of living is dramatically increasing, make more people dependent of the govt for assistance, effectively eliminating the middle class, creating a slew of desperate people forever indebted to the Dems to get by, keeping them in control forever.
I really wish economics was a high school requirement, then the youth wouldn't be so quick to fall in love with the spare change obamination.
August 15, 2008
11:53 p.m.
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commoncents writes:
Don't waste too much time trying to spread education to people that full of hate and disdain for someone different from them Forward, they have spent a lifetime priding themselves of stupidity. Some people would rather die miserable than admit that they happened to not be on the winning side of anything. Sad what a human can do to themselves if given the opportunity.
As Obama brings hope and some sense of relief from the oppression of the latest administration there will be some that see it as nothing less than an attack on their very lives. They will hide in places like this and not see that the world is a better place while the world tries to heal itself from the real terrorists affecting America. Those too heaped in fear to get outside of their narrow bands of thinking. When given the choice of being right or happy far too many of our countrymen would take that bitter path of right straight to the gates of insanity.
August 16, 2008
4:10 a.m.
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Dusty_Piniella writes:
Froward, maybe you should re read that article. It says right there that Obama's plan increases capital gains tax, he also will increase the corporate tax rate. Now, who do you think really pays for that? Hmm? The tax increases are passed on to the consumer. Always has, always will. So, while the lower class sees an increase of "between 3.4 and 5.5%" Their cost of living goes up higher than the COLA average, 5.5 - 15%. When all averages out they are really taking an income cut because now they have less disposable income.
Educate YOURself!
August 16, 2008
7:34 a.m.
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August 16, 2008
8:18 a.m.
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gratefulweb writes:
hey ImDaMailinator :
please come to boulder. we'd like to open a can of whip a** on you
August 16, 2008
8:47 a.m.
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Vector049 writes:
Geeze, people, settle down. Either one of these candidates is far better than what this country has endured over the last eight years. Whoever occupies the White House in January will have a real mess to clean up and both are worthy of the challenge.
August 16, 2008
9:09 a.m.
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mover2 writes:
I agree with vector calm down - either one of these guys have to be better than what we have, and neither one of them will be able to put smile on everyones face.
August 16, 2008
10:30 a.m.
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mtnboy75 writes:
I love all the bickering about taxes here...who cares about taxes? I care more about the amount of money our government costs us. The last set of statistics I came across indicates that when you consider for regulatory expenses, the government consists of 46% of our economy (GDP). As long as the government remains that large you're going to be taxed one way or another, be it directly (by income or capital gains taxes) or by devaluation of the dollar (inflation...or higher gas prices, higher food prices, higher home prices).
Think of this in standard business terms, where the US is one business amongs others (China, Russia, Brazil, etc. all represent other enterprises). The government of each country represents its management. If the management represents 46% of your budget (such as in the US), thats like having one manager for each individual producer. How many large businesses can remain competetive with half of its budget dedicated to management? For those of you not very familiar with business practices, the answer is not many. This is a global economy, and if the US wants to remain on top it needs to become more efficient. The only way that that will evfer happen is if we make serious cuts to our spending. We are losing some serious ground (I believe the government represented only about 12% of our GDP about 100 years ago).
Has either one of our candidates made any proposals about making the government significantly smaller? Cutting earmark spending doesn't count...that's a spit in the ocean compared to what really needs to be done. Either one of these guys won't be any better than the last 8 years...regardless of who we get, the focus won't be on making a the country stronger, it will be about increasing the power of select groups, or transferring power from one group of people to another.
I'm sorry... but an advocate for either one of these two candidates either represents someone that has something to lose, or someone that does not have a clue about what is really going on.
August 16, 2008
10:38 a.m.
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Creative_N_Denver writes:
Doesn't matter, both people are questionable- Obama has been caught lying more than once- Where is loyalities lie? Not with the American people thats for sure!
McCain has experience, but can he be trusted? I don't think so! Vote for NONE of the Above!
August 16, 2008
10:42 a.m.
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Creative_N_Denver writes:
Froward69 writes:
ImDaMailinator, that's brilliant. And oh so AMERICAN. Did you get that talking point from your last KKK meeting? or the republican party?
Why blame the Republican Party because of one idiot?
August 16, 2008
10:48 a.m.
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Braveheartz2 writes:
McCain isn't perfect but Obama is not experienced or prepared to lead this country. He is a first-term senator and isn't doing the job he was elected to do. See his lack of voting record at the site --
http://obama.senate.gov/votes/index.c...
The best thing for Denver, Colorado, and the United States could do is to stick it out, toughen up, and vote for a strong country with John McCain. The United States of America did not get to be a world power without being strong and believing in God and Country. If you don't believe this FACT go to the Library of Congress and read our history - www.LOC.gov. YES - READ YOUR HISTORY.
I want the best for all people and the Republican Party is changing for the better. John McCain will bring common sense back to the party and to the CONGRESS. Plus, all the world trouble makers will stop messing with our country or be destroyed by our military. Being a former soldier, we were trained to believe that we stand for our country and our people, if you want to hurt our people or our country, WE WILL DESTROY YOU -PERIOD!
My family has been in the country before this country was America, and we believe in America. We don't fail and we work for what we have. We treat all people right, believe in God, and we will not stand by while other Americans try to destroy our country. If others come to America, work, pay your taxes, and love your country. IF YOU DON'T LOVE IT, GET OUT!!! Plus, be sure to closely monitor your local, state, and federal politicians because they are the ones making it difficult on everyone through voting to overregulate and waste your tax dollars.
ALL POLITICIANS SHOULD DO THEIR JOBS, and provide opportunities for all Americans of all races and socioeconomic groups. Our government is sending billions to other countries while Americans suffer. THAT IS WRONG!
Good luck to everyone as they work to survive in America.
August 16, 2008
10:56 a.m.
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Unionist writes:
Education is the key here, Americans who would form an opinion of a candidate base off of a rumor are quite ignorant and cannot be counted on to use their voting rights in a rational way. As we can see Mr. McCain was a great war hero, however, he would like to tax your employer provided health care benefits as income. McCain does not believe in group healthcare plans. He support continuing the tax breaks for the wealthiest 1 percent of this country at the expense of the middle and lower class. It appears that Mr. McCain has completely stepped on himself time and time again by changing his position on long held beliefs. How is it that a man who was tortured himself would think it OK to torture another human being. I find that quite suspect. For those who have the misconception that Mr. Obama is a muslim this is incorrect, he is a protestant. I challenge those of you out there pondering this decision to not let your choice be based off of mindless propoganda, your racial biases, or a popularity contest. This country is headed in the wrong direction and we need a new direction for this country, one that will look out for all AMERICANS not just the wealthy PIGS. We do not need more of Bush bumbling policies wreaking havoc on our nation, we need change and that needs to be for the better. LONG LIVE THE WORKER!!!!!! LONG LIVE THE PROLETARIATE!!!!!!
August 16, 2008
11:13 a.m.
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ActualThinker writes:
How are people not over the fact that Obama is not a muslim, and did not name himself Hussein yet? It scares me that some of you people get to vote when you are so uneducated and fall so easily for the republican fear campaigns that have gotten us in to the mess we are in over the last year.
August 16, 2008
12:06 p.m.
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sunshinestate writes:
The state's 'conservative' hunters and outdoor folk should by now know not to blindly support any one party.
Join the NRA and vote Obama.
August 16, 2008
12:23 p.m.
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GetReal writes:
The real story here is Obama is losing in a state that has been bombarded with higher than normal (could it be possible?) pro Barack and Dem propaganda for months due to the DNC coming to town.
Even with all that, The Messiah still cant generate the positive poll numbers he needs.
Savior?
HA!
The Dems only Presidential hope is a last minute Clinton convention coup, fueled by their strategically timed, weekend before the convention "leaking" of a long held secret Obama scandal, that will be conveniently blamed on Repubs.
If not too many people die in the ensuing convention riot, the Dems may weather the storm and have a real shot with Cankles vs McCain in November.
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August 16, 2008
12:49 p.m.
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FreeToChoose writes:
"Frankly if McSame wins, there will be no pulling out of the death spiral bush started." -Froward69
Oh please spare me the End of the World rhetoric Backward69!
This country has survived a revolution and a second invasion by it's former master, a civil war, multiple depressions, two world wars, the cold war, a President who resigned in disgrace, slavery, jim crow, stagflation and Barbara Streisand. It will survive this Presidency and the next one too.
People in America have it soooooooooooo good and they still believe America is in MORTAL danger when their 'guy' isn't elected. I didn't see Alec Baldwin running out of the country when Bush was elected (like he promised). why? Because despite the myriad challenges this nation currently faces, we still have it damn good here in the good ole U.S. of A., that's why.
But on a more specific note, I just love it when people look to the government to solve their problems instead of figuring out why they decided they just had to have the new iPhone and so they put it on their credit card which already had a $53,542 balance (on which they were paying exhorbitant interest rates), but they justified the purchase since they planned to refinace their home and consolidate their debt because they were sure they could capture the huge run-up in home values since they bought it with a zero-percent-down interest-only loan in 2004... but now they live 43 miles from where they work (because the houses were newer and bigger way out there) and their SUV (a dearly desired status symbol of 2003) is costing them a fortune in gas every month so they can barely afford to meet the payments on their nearly maxed-out credit cards and their mortgage, which just reset three percentage points higher... and Junior wants an xBox for Christmas, so they'll just run the credit card up more so Junior doesn't have to make sacrifices...
BUT BY ALL MEANS, LET'S BLAME THE GOVERNMENT FOR OUR PROBLEMS INSTEAD!!!
I think it was Tom Brokaw that said about the American people, that we don't necessarily elect the "right" person every time, but that the American People always get the person "they deserve."
Think about that when you moan about who the next president is, whether it be Obama or McCain. Because whoever it is, you deserve him... including YOU Mr Backward 69!
August 16, 2008
12:53 p.m.
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fntsymtn writes:
Actually, in low margin business -- in a recessions nearly ALL business is low margin business -- it is increasingly difficult to pass on cost increases to customers. Instead of raising prices, companies will look to lower costs. You can count on one of three things when the price of doing business goes up:
1. Lower wages until fairly long after the recession ends.
2. Outsourcing and offshoring of work.
3. When it is impossible to lower wages or outsource/offshore, the price of goods and services will increase.
Either way it does not bode well for the working class.
While I understand the plea for a "fair" tax code where the wealthy and business pay a much greater percentage of the relative tax burden, in the United States the progressive tax code is detrimental to job growth, particularly when it comes to business. When it is less expensive for a business, or in some cases cost positive, to send work overseas (because of our tax code) business will send work overseas. It has happened with manufacturing, it is happening with information technology and "white collar" jobs, and it will happen with "green" jobs in the future. As "green" companies become profitable, we will begin to impose "windfall" profits taxes on them and they will move to avoid the taxes. A band-aid tax increase on the wealthy and profitable businesses to support new "industry" will be excruciatingly painful for Americans when it is ripped off and the Chinese suddenly are "taking" all the good green jobs. The only reason "windfall" taxes will work on Oil companies is because the product they sell is located on (or under) American soil. There is no leverage when it comes to sunshine.
If you want to continue to increase the disparity between the haves and the have-not's, continue to make it profitable for the haves to employ people in other countries. Even if you tax the wealthy and businesses at 99% effective rate, you still cannot bring lost jobs back to America.
August 16, 2008
1:05 p.m.
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Denverboy1 writes:
Purple.........hey it's the Color of our State Flower our Mountains !!!!! Right on ! it means we have a good mix.....nothing wrong with that...healthy debate from either side....It's about time this state became little more than just RED machine.... now we are a serious political swing.....Gotta love how the world keeps a changing about us....If we dont don't change with it...well we become without use...
Gone are the days where the Right could just breeze through...without thought to Colorado...or the Left just pass us by with a shake of there head... If we stand firmly in the middle....I love America.....Perhaps both sides will see that TOGETHER we can get allot done...Can't paint a picture with just one color...kinda like our Nation....We are of many people , cultures , from all over this great Planet we live on ...AHHH Monet would be proud.....
August 16, 2008
1:21 p.m.
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Keith43 writes:
Commoncents,
I agree that Bush has all but destroyed our constitution. But, two wrongs never make a right. It's sad that where Bush has brought us, that we're willing to accept "anyone" of either party that is offered up. We all know from his platform and history, that with McCain, we'll get four more years of the same; and, remember that McCain publically voiced his agreement with a "one world government", though he thinks the United Nations is not capable of bringing it about. He's an elitist! As for Obama, much of what has been said of him from a negative perspective, is true. When you take his canned speaches and teleprompter away, he reveals himself as the bumbling idiot, that he truly is. He hypes everyone up with "change", but when asked for specifics, can't give an intelligent answer. So far there's been no tough questions and the media is protective of him because he's who they want. When I read Obama's history and his past associations, I am literally frightened at the prospect of him becoming president.
Why must we vote the two-party system? Why can't we think for ourselves? You are not throwing your vote away by departing from the "perceived" two-party system. When you look at what this administration has done to our constitution and our economy, there are (or was) only two answers; one of which is all but history. One, Ron Paul (whom the mainstream media continued to marginalized throughout the debates and the primaries); and two, the U.S. Constitution candidate. We either get back to abiding by U.S. Constitution, and insist that our elected officials abide by it, or we are doomed.
So Commoncents, with all due respect, use your god-given common sense and vote your conscience - Look at the history, the two-party system is a sham. When has any candidate ever followed through with one promise? Think about it!
August 16, 2008
1:41 p.m.
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I_Slay_The_Dragon writes:
The Great State of Colorado and purple?
ALL, in good time.
August 16, 2008
2:07 p.m.
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Keith43 writes:
Big_D,
I agree in large part. It's a tough choice. But when we look at the increased damage that Bush has done just in his second term, he's set things in motion that Obama could simply pleasurize or expand on. Now that we've departed from the checks and balances within our govrnment that the founding fathers established, if there's no course correction, we'll move very rapidly down that slippery slope (which both houses and both parties have bought into by the way), to our utter destruction as a free people.
The sad thing is that Ron Paul warned and continues to warn us of these things, but America's in too deep of a sleep or too busy watching American Idol, to even notice.
August 16, 2008
2:45 p.m.
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no_more_republicans writes:
"Dusty_Pinella wrote:
"Jobs and the economy were the No. 1 issue in Colorado voters minds when deciding whom to support for president, the poll said.
Among those voters, Obama had a slight edge - 44 percent to 38 percent."
Whoooaaaa.....People who's #1 issue is jobs and the economy would vote for Obama? Just goes to show how uneducated about economics people really are. Raising taxes, any taxes, during a recession?.......let's see.....where have we seen that before kids."
Well, you probably most recently saw it in the 1990s, the era of the longest economic growth in USA history. Bill Clinton presided over the creation of 22 million jobs in 8 years. W has presided over the creation of....uh, 5 million jobs.
I guess THAT would be one reason why the people in our state would give the edge to Obama.
August 16, 2008
3:07 p.m.
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rg writes:
Being Independent, I listen to Con and Liberal talk radio. Only the Con e.g. O'Reilly, that woman with the large adam's apple whose name escapes me presently, Cunningham, Gunny, The Great One et al, and the bananas Independent Michael Savage strikes out at children who are autistic calling them spoiled brats (but not Hannity though I wouldn’t put it past him) speak of doing to the liberals what the Iraqi does to each other with Pat Robertson, et al, petition god with imprecative prayer to kill liberals. {FYI: The Ninth Circuit is comprised of 6 judges appointed by GOP whereas, only one may be, perhaps, a liberal.)
Those who would vote for McCain should not forget that his judgment voted for war in Iraq; whereas, Obama called it a “dumb war” and opposed it. While Obama was a baby, “Hero” McCain was dropping bombs on babies in Viet Nam and his horseplay killed 134 sailors on the aircraft carrier. Not only would McCain continue Bush’s bushwhacking of America, he would reignite the cold war with Russia; maybe get us into a hot war.
I, as Navy, would like to vote for McCain; however, the next President will have to be young with sufficient judgment to keep us out of “dumb wars.” I’ll wait and see who his Vice will be knowing the Vice will be our next president if McCain is elected. Richard Grimes: Deicide, a killer of gods.
August 16, 2008
3:12 p.m.
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BigNick writes:
BigD makes a lot of sense and is right on target. All the tax hysteria being peddled by Republicans is the same old scare tactics of the past. Obama wants to raise taxes on people like me, which is just fine because I think it will benefit our country overall. Under Obama's plan, most middle class tax payers will get a tax cut--and don't let anyone fool you in to thinking otherwise.
Consider this: when was the last time you felt very good about the economy, your job, the status of the US around the world (which meant a lot more influence than today)? Probably the last time capital gains taxes were 28 percent and the Republicans were saying the sky will fall if we implement the tax increases of a Democratic president-- Bill Clinton. . .I'd gladly sign on the dotted line for that kind of economic plan. Why? Because it worked, leading to a huge surplus that our current misguided President has squandered. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that McCain would be any different than Bush. In fact, on some days, McCain makes Bush sound downright articulate. I respect and am moved by McCain's personal history, but that alone does not make him qualified to be President. Only Obama offers the kind of inspirational leadership that we need to move our country forward. McCain: well, he offers old, tired ideas. . .
August 16, 2008
3:41 p.m.
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commoncents writes:
Keith43,
Until we have a legitimate 3rd or even 4th party system you have to use your vote for the best chance possible. You will notice I said chance, as long as there are only two parties that are so closely in bed with each other that is all you have electing anyone from either for president.
Obama getting elected would at least allow more people in the country to feel apart of it and stop using perceived barriers to not fully push for success in their own lives. And one thing for sure there would be more oversight of the White House than we have ever seen.
McCain will sadly continue us on the path of some bad 50's John Wayne movie tough talk.
August 16, 2008
4:03 p.m.
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gr8fun4me writes:
I can't believe anyone would vote for 4 more years of this. There is not one thing the Republicans have done in the last 8 years that anyone would be proud of. Don't tell me it's the democrats fault either because the Republicans had the Senate and the House for 6 of those years and didn't do a thing except line their friends and their own pockets. The economy was based on the housing boom which we now know was fake. Now they try to make the offshore drilling an issue when they know that it will do nothing for the energy issue. Wake up people and do your own research! Quit believing the people who hate!
August 16, 2008
5:21 p.m.
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Nosybear writes:
Colorado is not pivotal. Obama's up so far in electoral votes (the only ones that count) that our nine votes are piddly. By latest estimations, Obama is leading Bush III by 120-150 electoral votes.
But I am glad McCain's wasting a lot of money convincing people to vote for him in a nationally meaningless race.
August 16, 2008
5:21 p.m.
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GetReal writes:
Charles-
Still can't admit you guys screwed the pooch with Obama eh?
And a little bit of sarcasm sure does seem to get your pretty little panties in a bunch, you been drinking again?
Considering Obama's dropping poll numbers,and since you're a big "Obama oraganizer", maybe you should think about putting down your bottle of Zima and attempt a better effort at "getting the word out", instead of stalking me.
Oh, I know what put you in such a pissy mood, your boy is speaking at a church tonight kissing up to Christians for their votes.
Good luck dealing with that you religious hating freak.
BTW,
How's your Keith Olbermann shrine coming along up in the remodeled attic?
August 16, 2008
6:09 p.m.
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DemsAreDumb writes:
I dont understand how anyone can vote for Obama (Carter second term at ruining this country). He has been in the senate for 143 days and not voted one third of the time. That's pathetic. He failed at his law career, he failed as a business writer, the only thing he succeeded at was being a "community organizer"- whatever the heck that is. I have more experience to be president than he does.
August 16, 2008
10:03 p.m.
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Mugwump writes:
In the end, the voter so Colorado (and America as a whole) will not elect as President an emaciated, arugula-eating, gun-hating, partial-birth-abortion supporting son of a Muslim goatherd father and an atheist mother whose spiritual mentor/father figure for 20 years begged God to damn America.
August 16, 2008
10:09 p.m.
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pete10000ft writes:
Why should I vote for McCain?
I'm not a Dem or an Obama supporter.I think both are high paid spokesmen for big business that fund this sham of a campaign to further their own goals. But I think McCain is damaged goods ever since his stint in the bamboo cage...He just looks, er, distant.
We're screwed.
August 16, 2008
10:10 p.m.
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commoncents writes:
Maybe they will, it will be a step up from the last president we have had to deal with. America is the land of opportunity!
August 17, 2008
6:08 a.m.
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gwats writes:
According to this poll, 44% of Coloradans are willing to give McCain a pass for his own role in the current mess we are in right now. When he suggested 25-100 more years of war, they turn a deaf ear to his foolishness. Eight years of a man who listens to no one and wrecks the economy just weren't enough for these dill-weeds.
August 17, 2008
7:18 a.m.
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awhite411 writes:
Colorado, a purple state.....just like Obamas Lips.....
August 17, 2008
8:56 a.m.
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denverone writes:
You can see that the inexperienced and people that never have to make any real decisions leaning towards Obama. Does that tell you anything? Young people and housewives. They are the only ones that will vote for a failed community organizer and a US Senator that has effectively been in serving for less than a year, because he speaks well and is dreamy.
Stupid Sheep!
August 17, 2008
9:06 a.m.
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Nick_in_Virginia writes:
Obama's "support among Democrats 45 years old and younger is 89 percent compared with 68 percent of those over age 45"
The age of 45 is just about the dividing line for people who have direct experience of the Carter administration.
Younger people do not realize how incompetent Carter was. Those over 45 (both Democrats and Republicans) recognize Carter as the most incompetent President since World War II (and don't even try to compare him to Bush: Interest rates: 21%; Inflation: 13%; jobless rate: 9%; unsuccessful economic policy; "windfall profits tax on oil producers" (sound familiar) that led to both higher prices and more imported oil; and worst of all, the Iran hostage crisis).
So when people compare Obama to Carter, the younger generation has no real idea where the complaint lies; the older generation knows what happens when you stick your hand into the fire, and doesn't want to get burned again.
IF the American education system were not controlled by the libs, this breakdown by generation would be a lot closer than it is now.
August 17, 2008
9:30 a.m.
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Beau writes:
I have hopes that Obama is not the Democrat nominee. He's falling so fast in the polls and is making so many mistakes that Democrat delegates are starting to get buyer's remorse.
Hillary has experience, strength, and she knows that America doesn't have 57 states and Russia has veto power in the UN. Obama shows such ignorance about world issues and such ignorance about economic issues that even Democrats are going to cross over and vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee.
Please, can we have a "do-over"?
August 17, 2008
10:04 a.m.
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BigNick writes:
GetReal: Sure Obama's poll numbers fell this past week. He was on vacation and McCain had the entire stage to himself. All McCain could do was get within a point or two of Obama--with Obama still leading, both in national polls and, more importantly, electoral votes (where he already has passed the 270 mark when considering the states he now leads in). Watch this coming week with lots of convention talk and Obama back on the campaign trail. And don't forget, once the conventions are over, Obama will have at least a 3-1 advantage in campaign cash.
States that Obama leads in by at least a point or two:
Maine, Vermont, NH, Mass, RI, Conn., NY, NJ, Penn, Del, MD, Wis, Mich, Ohio, Ill, Minn, Iowa, NM, Nev, Calif, Ore, Wash, Hawaii.
States where they are essentially tied: Virginia, Colo, Montana, Mo, Fla. But even if he lost all of these, he'd still have enough electoral votes.
But it's early, and certainly anything can happen.
August 17, 2008
11:22 a.m.
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robert10001 writes:
URGENT MEMO: To All Coloradans.
McCain wants to renegotiate Colorado's 1922 Water Pact!!! Do you know what that means! Farming and industry in this state will dry up in a Colorado summer day. We will become a brown and dusty desert state while corporate America from LasVegas to Phoenix swims in our Colorado bounty. This is McCain's idea of conservation and good politics -- corporate greed and political payoffs. It would be suicidal for anyone in our beautiful and bountiful state vote for this idiot.
August 17, 2008
12:05 p.m.
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fishoutawater writes:
"In the 21st century, countries don't go to war with other countries" - John McCain - August 2008. Are you serious? Have fun in Canada MrCrush. History almost did repeat itself with the Bush Administration. How many people have died in Iraq? US and Iraq citizens combined, over a million now. Under BUSH! If you really feel the last 7.5 years has been good for you and yours then I understand where you are coming from, but seriously, are things looking good for the USA after the Bush Administration, republican machine at work. Think about MAN!
August 17, 2008
12:17 p.m.
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ecoscience writes:
taoistblockhead, I have an IQ of 158 and I'm voting for McCain.
Barack Obama doesn't know how much he doesn't know. You're buying a marketing campaign.
August 17, 2008
1:02 p.m.
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commoncents writes:
just goes to show IQ has little to do with intelligence
August 17, 2008
1:18 p.m.
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fishoutawater writes:
ecoscience - Your IQ has failed to recognize the flaws in McCains logic. He not only contradicts himself frequently, but he fails to understand his past voting record, as it applies to our future. This man voted against veterans benifits several times and is a veteran himself. Oh wait, he's getting his 100% entilttlement to his benefits, so once he's taken care of, screw everyone else. Logical to those who have high IQ's? How could it be. I bet you're as selfish as McCain and probably benefit somehow from the republican corporate machine. Let me guess, you're a scientist working for a defense contractor here in Colorado Springs. I voted republican for the last 37 years, and even with a lower IQ than you (138), I can see that my logic was flawed. Time to stop voting against mywelsf and make a CHANGE.
August 17, 2008
1:26 p.m.
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fishoutawater writes:
MrCrush Our Hopes - Did you know that most media netowrks are owned by NEOCON nut bags? You cant trust any media now adays, but now I know where you get yours. Rush freak! He couldnt be more of a bad source. They actually disclaim him as entertainment, not media. I get my sources from all over the world. Two different languages etc. I read publications from both sides in congress and the senate. I actually research past voting records and listen to senate debates. You listen to RUSH on the way to work and think you know what you're saying. Good god help us. Another, "my dad was republican and I'm a republican too". The farmers here in Colorado are seeing the light. I cant wait till our state changes colors.
August 17, 2008
1:31 p.m.
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commoncents writes:
I doubt anyone would be upset with the number of dead in any war that was worth fighting. The very fact that one life was lost in Iraq is shameful. In the meantime Russia has grown more arrogant and strong, Iran is the same, only they have not gotten the ability to attack just yet. We are not any closer to finding Bin Laden that when we were first engaged in Afghanistan.
With Obama there is less chance of getting into another useless conflict. McCain is so set on winning some war, any war, that he will run this country into the ground in doing so. He does not care about the long term, it is only a few more years for him anyway.
August 17, 2008
1:40 p.m.
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fishoutawater writes:
Democrat = Surplus, Republican = Deficit. Simple look at history and you'll see this is ture. Lay the graphs over each other and see the "clean up" stage (early years of democratic presidency)where a democratic president turned the republican mess around. Like a college kid with a credit card, republicans run wild with no consideration of the future, leaving the mess to be cleaned up by their parents. Kinda like Bush, who never really had to clean up a mess of his of his own and never really will. McCain would be a scapegoat for this administrations failures. At least Obama could start "cleaning up" the mess. We'll need about 12 years to do it, unfortunatly.... I can't believe I didn't see this stuff earlier. I'm sorry for my past voting record and vow to educate myself and children better. Time to change!
August 17, 2008
6:17 p.m.
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boardbike writes:
Get the facts on Obama:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/conten...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGIqGa...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz5oHv...
Hope this helps with clearing up the smears
August 17, 2008
7:59 p.m.
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BigNick writes:
BigCrush:
Bye-Bye. Have a good time in Canada. One good thing for you--you'll be in a place that offers universal health care, unlike the US.
By the way, US troops stationed overseas have donated 6 times the amount of money to Obama than they have to McCain. . .they know something we don't. Support our troops, vote Obama.
August 17, 2008
8:10 p.m.
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rickg19611 writes:
What is wrong with Obama? Even in the best conditions possible for Democrats, the best they can do is a nominee that can't do better than a tie?
They nominated a dud. And the polls prove it.
August 17, 2008
9:51 p.m.
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gale writes:
If the poll was taken using land line phone only, then doesn't this explain all? How many under the age of 40 have a land line phone or are at home to answer it?
And to the racists on this page - shame on you.
Obama will make a wonderful president.. get used to it.
http://obama.3cdn.net/e7386f9f9da5ebc...
August 19, 2008
9:17 a.m.
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AtlantaBill writes:
It's funny how we citizens vote continually against our own self interest. As a 64 year old democrat, I will vote for Sen Obama and believe he will win this election. Hopefully, CO (unlike my state of GA) will be on the winning side and get us back on-track as a country. Republicans have nearly bankrupted this country and yes John McCain has voted more times than not (95%) to support the bush approach. I say to you, if you want more bush then select your poison and vote McCain. This guy has no understanding of ordinary people - he thinks being rich begins at $5M. His life has been that of a privileged brat that relied on daddy's influence to opens doors that never would have been available to others with his academic record. When he got as far as he could using daddy's power, he left his wife and latched onto Cindy and her family's wealth to take him to the next level. You may consider that heroic but as someone who has been married to the same woman for more than thirty-five years, I consider it opportunistic. Nothing in McCain's background demonstrates good character. Can't wait til he releases those military records showing how he cooperated with the VC while in prison.
August 28, 2008
9:10 a.m.
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Barb writes:
All the rah-rah-rah-ing of the Democratic National Convention -- this is a week long sales pitch. They're trying to whip up support and enthusiasm like TV preachers.
Personally, I think it would be great for a black person to win the presidency but I don't think Obama is that knowledgeable -- He's said to be articulate but he rambles on and on without saying anything!
He is quoted in Realtor Magazine as saying he "won't have capital gains taxes" on businesses. I never heard of "capital tax gains" on businesses. He doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.
Michelle Obama is more knowledgeable, more articulate and a much better speaker. Why didn't she run?
Joe Biden was a terrible pick for VP. He is another one who rambles on and on and likes to hear himself talk. He comes across as an east coast snob.
So have fun and party now, but in the end, better watch your wallet if he gets in!
August 28, 2008
9:20 a.m.
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Barb writes:
I forgot to add that I was hoping Mitt Romney would get the Republican's nomination. I think he'd be better than McCain as he is more ENERGETIC, knowledgeable about business and when he is confronted with a problem, he addresses it by his pragmatism and by researching it and looking at all sides. Mitt Romney and a sharp, personable woman of any race would have made an unbeatable team. Too bad. As much as I don't care for Obama either, I don't think McCain has the stamina or energy required for the presidency.
September 13, 2008
11:14 a.m.
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Barb writes:
Colorado has always been a state of intelligent, highly educated, independent thinkers -- entrepreneurial, open-minded, we love our wildlife, our wolves, our bears, and our environment -- we don't like old fashioned closed-minded zealots. McCain and Palin (who supports and promotes aerial shooting of wolves and bears from airplanes -- and is half threatening war with Russia already --just don't fit in with our contemporary worldviews.
Vote for Obama 08! It's time for a positive change, not more of the same.
September 14, 2008
1:14 a.m.
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kevin67898 writes:
'...,just don't fit in with our contemporary worldviews.' Don't asume to know the view of the people of Colorado. Further don't insult me by flattering me so you can hock an empty suit like Obama on me.