Detention center for protesters won't free them nearby
By Hector Gutierrez, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)
Published August 13, 2008 at 8:43 p.m.
Denver officials and the sheriff's department said Wednesday that they will not release prisoners taken into custody during the Democratic National Convention into the neighborhood surrounding a temporary detention facility.
The arrest-processing center will operate from Aug. 24 to 31 and will be able to detain up to 400 people for short periods of time. The facility also will be able to process about 60 prisoners an hour. The sheriff's department is not disclosing the temporary center's location. However, a CBS4 News report said it is being constructed in northeast Denver.
It won't be used for any long- term detention, and prisoners won't be kept for more than a few hours, authorities said.
Officials said they decided to build the facility because of the huge number of visitors expected and the intentions of some protesters to be arrested.
The sheriff's department has written letters to residents and businesses in the neighborhood explaining that no detainees will be released into the neighborhood even if they are able to post bail at the temporary center.
Instead, those who are able to post bail will be bused to the Denver County Jail at Smith Road and Havana Street, where prisoners are usually released.
Handouts will be distributed to prisoners, providing information on the booking process and listing numbers for the American Civil Liberties Union and the People's Law Project.
The sheriff's department said it will not be able to accommodate the ACLU's demands that attorneys be allowed to meet confidentially with detainees at the temporary facility. Attorneys will have an opportunity to meet with their clients who are unable to post bail after they are transported from the temporary center to the Denver courthouse for their first court appearance, said Undersheriff William Lovingier.
Mark Silverstein, the ACLU's legal director, wrote a letter Aug. 8 to Lovingier and Manager of Safety Al Lacabe warning that under state statutes the custodian of detainees may not restrict lawyers from meeting with them.
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August 13, 2008
10:29 p.m.
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Mike846 writes:
Unless they're stupid enough to start trouble on the first night of the convention, the people arrested won't be in stir long enough to worry about an attorney. They'll be taken off the streets, locked up, and released the minute The Messiah climbs into his jet and the rest of the "inclusive" and "diverse" Democrats are on their way to the airport. I find it interesting that this convention gathering includes a whole bunch of people who were protesting in the Sixties and Seventies, and now they don't want to be bothered by their political offspring. I guess they no longer believe the things they claimed to believe back then. Interesting how age will do that, along with being entrenched in the power structure of any orthodoxy, Left or Right. Mike
August 14, 2008
4:31 a.m.
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Shadow writes:
I think posters like Big D need to stay on topic of the artical.
I am sure that at the GOP convention there is a similar facility. Those that are detained will more likely receive a trespassing charge if that and released asap.
You plan for the worst, then accept the lessor. A fact of life and a general basis in plamming events. This detention center may be objectionable to only those who expect to end up there for a few hours.
August 14, 2008
6:38 a.m.
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Jim writes:
Northeast Denver? I Kind of like the golf course at the Denver Country Club for the detention center. Close to bus transportation and shopping. Nimby lives!
August 14, 2008
7:19 a.m.
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Vtwinman writes:
Big_D FOCUS!!!!! Stay on topic!
This is about a detention f-a-c-i-l-i-t-y.
August 14, 2008
7:25 a.m.
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LingLingfor_prez writes:
LOL Vtwinman, I agree.
August 14, 2008
8:21 a.m.
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LadyBird112 writes:
At the risk of going off-topic, it'd be interesting to see how many of the local posters in Minneapolis are going off on McCain.
August 14, 2008
8:22 a.m.
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vendari01 writes:
So this is like when they catch a bear prowling through neighborhood garbage cans? Trank 'em, detain 'em, then drop 'em off somewhere in the wilderness?
August 14, 2008
8:50 a.m.
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GILPINMAN writes:
I wish they would drop them off in the wilderness. The locals up here would show them the hospitality they deserve.
August 14, 2008
8:54 a.m.
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POHA writes:
Where, precisely, is this detention facility located?
August 14, 2008
9:17 a.m.
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buffsblg writes:
Marine,
If bigD is a troll, how do you characterize mike846? Or do you only object to trolls you do not agree with?
August 14, 2008
9:21 a.m.
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Mayor_Quimby writes:
No, like the shark infested waters off of Florida.
August 14, 2008
9:23 a.m.
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Cowboy63 writes:
I would hope that the temporary facility would not have to be used at all, but will depend on the behavior of the out-of-state protesters - and I have little faith in them.
August 14, 2008
9:31 a.m.
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Keith43 writes:
As long as the protesters do not break the law, it is their constitutional right to be their and question issues they dissagree with. Often times, when people have become agressive and physical, it was because police officers in plain clothes, infiltrated the crowd and insited the people. There were photographs proving their involvement, that lead them to admit to it. Their whole purpose in insiting the protesters, was to give them an excuse to remove them from the scene. However, over the past several years, free speech zones are only permitted several blocks away from the event. So much for constitutional rights!
August 14, 2008
10:10 a.m.
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dilligaf writes:
MarineGrunt
Please define troll?
August 14, 2008
10:26 a.m.
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gripit91 writes:
The DDN has the location. Apparently the neighborhood is not too happy. http://thedenverdailynews.com/article...
August 14, 2008
10:28 a.m.
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Scott writes:
Silverstein is just being a lawyer, mouth opens excrement flows. The DPD never said that the mouthpieces couldn't meet with the geriatric hippies, they just won't have a confidential place to talk ... tough $#!T. The mouthpieces can wait until the geriatric hippies get moved down to the courthouse to meet privately.
Scott
August 14, 2008
10:53 a.m.
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COLibertarian writes:
For those people on here that are worried about freedom of speech being targeted and blaming the police for building pens to be detained, I understand your concern..............
BUT why the heck are people not up in arms around the DNC and the Democrat Machine threatening nonObama Delegates to shut up about their candidate and if they dont then they should be removed as a Delagate to the convention. I find this a much higher crime of free speech than preparing for those protesters that decide that violence is the answer...............
August 14, 2008
11:15 a.m.
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titancain writes:
COL, Why do you care. Worry about your own "party's" nomination Barr. Wasn't he caught with a mistress or something when he was busy impeaching Clinton?
August 14, 2008
11:22 a.m.
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Elwood writes:
Next time someone says "we can't afford to..." or "we don't have the manpower to..." when it comes to deporting / arresting the 12,000,000 Illegal Aliens, all we have to do is point out what is being done for the DNC and say BULLSH!T!!!
August 14, 2008
11:32 a.m.
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COLibertarian writes:
titan, I am an independent and as of yet undecided of how I am going to vote. While a Libertarian at heart, I too had concerns about Barr......of which yours was only a small piece of the pie.............
All Parties are all of OUR concerns here. Not just "my" party or "your" party or "his" party.........What a crock of huuuey you are spouting. Freedoms are all of our concerns. When 1 party is limiting those freedoms within its party, it is a concern for all of us.
WHAT you spout is EXACTLY why we have the damaging divide in OUR country..........
August 14, 2008
11:37 a.m.
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COLibertarian writes:
also Titan you leveled your comment at me to "mind my own business" and the fact that you did not concern yourself to the tactics of the DNC regarding intimidation on NonObama Delegates says alot on how you think about our freedoms of speech. Very sad commentary indeed
August 14, 2008
12:08 p.m.
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HopiMedicineMan writes:
Understand, this is Democrats protesting Democrats about a war that is nearly over. Everyone should protest both conventions. They are celebrations of the Washington hammer. Democrats are destroying the economy. Romney is acceptable because Mormonism is ultimately the Mezzo-American Jaguar cult, the earth speaking to the people.
August 14, 2008
1:30 p.m.
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Mayor_Quimby writes:
COLibertarian, Titan is a typical liberal fascist. They love encouraging free speech as long as its their own. Anything else gets shouted down, protested against, or prevented from being said. I'll say it again, they are fascists and totalitarians at best.
August 14, 2008
1:42 p.m.
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Mayor_Quimby writes:
And the pen is on E. 37th across from Schaeffer park. Not the best of areas but much more upscale then the soon to be inhabitants of the pen.
August 14, 2008
1:54 p.m.
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buffsblg writes:
Marine, maybe we have a different definition of troll. To me posters like Scott and Mike who mainly rely on name calling and insults qualify. To be fair, I agree that Mike does attempt to come up with something new and on point.
August 14, 2008
2:23 p.m.
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Keith43 writes:
Colibertarian,
It's clear in my opinion, that you're a very intelligent person - seriously. With that, I ask you. Do you honestly believe there is a two-party system? I say two because your candidate and affiliation; as well as mine (constitutional), don't have a snowball's chance. But, that's not my point. Who gets elected is controlled entirely by the elitests of this world, of whom, our media is controlled (Fox included). What news you receive, is based upon their collective agenda and only what they want you to receive. Case in point, Ron Paul. The media marginalized him throught the primaries. Yet he's the only one that made any sense about the direction of our economy and what's happening to our constitution. I'd appreciate your views on this.
August 14, 2008
3:34 p.m.
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COLibertarian writes:
Keith, First thank you for the kind words.......most would say you are completely wrong....... :-)
My candidate? I dont have one right now. I do not support Barr. I am not sure who I will vote for in the General election.
I agree with you regarding the media. Ron Paul definately would have been a guy I could have potentially stood behind, but he was a messenger, a leader, not a politician to the extent of the others.
August 14, 2008
3:40 p.m.
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COLibertarian writes:
Keith sorry for short answers....in meeting now and having trouble multi tasking........ enjoy your day
Forgot: No do not think the 2 party system is good for us. Main problem I see is that the candidates have 2 agendas....1 to get through primaries...... and the other to get through general election........ Once through primaries, the independents and undecided are scratching our heads as the 2 parties have picked what is best for each party, not what is best for the country..... my opinions......
August 14, 2008
4:06 p.m.
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jay writes:
" I am not sure who I will vote for in the General election"
hi dee hoo neighbors.
colib colib colib...i know you well enough to corner you on your support for mccain this november...
let's not pretend otherwise shall we and therefore skip that little exercise?
August 14, 2008
5:31 p.m.
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COLibertarian writes:
Jay You could not be more wrong. Do not support McCain in any way other than I feel it wrong to use Democratic Pet names for him..... And I do not like the Republican Pet names for Obama............ I think it is counterproductive for both sides..... Hell would most likely put forth a direct vote for Hillary.....Bill would be there........... voted for Bill 1x and Dole the next. Nader in the last........... Oh well......there goes your Right wing conspiracy carp............
Actually any vote I make will indeed be an indirect vote for Obama. I know this. I do not like it but will not vote for McCain. Do not trust the guy. So Jay I know my options. Dont like them but willing to live with them. As I have said to others in different threads............. Show me the proof or take your words back.... Pretty simple really. So far no takers.
Reality Jay.......You screamed Reality past couple weeks Jay. Tell us how that all worked out..........
August 14, 2008
6 p.m.
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jay writes:
mcsame mcsame mcsame
we'll go over the exercise one more time in the hope that you'll learn from the tutoring session this time, colib.
this is a nice little exercise:
go to www.johnmccain.com
see his policy stances on the major issues before the country.
now...if you have the intellectual honesty required to do so...please tell us how those stances strategically differ from bush's.
pretty easy question...wouldn't you say?