Indictment details tale of abuse that led to Aarone Thompson's death
Beatings with bats, belts, fists occurred every day, kids say
By Lisa Ryckman, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)
Published April 30, 2008 at 8:06 a.m.
Photo by The Rocky / 2006
Shely Lowe and Aaron Thompson leave a hearing at Arapahoe County District Court in Centennial in January 2006. Lowe died four months later.
Photo by George Kochaniec Jr. / The Rocky/2005
An investigator removes evidence bags from the Thompson home in November 2005.
Photo by Ellen Jaskol / The Rocky/2005
Lynette Thompson, Aarone Thompson's biological mother, shows family photos as she talks about her daughter in November 2005, a week after the girl was reported missing. Lynette Thompson was living in a homeless shelter in Detroit at the time.
Sometimes, when Aarone Thompson was put in the coat closet for punishment, she'd slip her small fingers under the door.
Then another child, Kadezshia Smith, would rub Aarone's fingers, just to let her know that somebody cared.
It was a rare gesture of kindness in the house where Aarone, Kadezshia and six other children lived with Aaron Thompson and his girlfriend, Shely Lowe, a place where beatings happened daily for any reason and no reason at all, according to a grand jury indictment released Wednesday.
Thompson, the target of the 60-count indictment, reported Aarone missing from their Aurora home on Nov. 14, 2005, telling police that she ran away.
But within days, police said they believed she had been killed up to 18 months earlier. One grand jury witness said Lowe told him that she and Thompson buried Aarone in a field as "the last breath of the child was coming out of her body," according to the indictment.
The charges against Thompson include 20 counts of child abuse, seven counts of child abuse resulting in death, two counts of concealing a death and two counts of abusing a corpse. Thompson has said he is innocent. Lowe died of a heart attack in May 2006. Aarone's body hasn't been found.
Heavy doses of abuse
In the indictment are stories from the seven children - Aaron Thompson's son and Shely Lowe's five, as well as Lowe's teenage brother - of punishment with belts, extension cords, fists and baseball bats.
"Whoopins," they called them.
Aarone, who would have been 6 when she was reported missing, received more than her share of abuse, the other children told authorities. Lowe's daughter, Kadezshia, told her therapist that Thompson and Lowe would punish Aarone for wetting her pants or bed by putting the little girl in a coat closet by the front door, the grand jury reported. Sometimes she'd be in there for part of the day, sometimes overnight.
After Aarone urinated in the closet, Thompson whipped her with a belt, Lowe's daughter, Tamara Lowe, told police. Her brother, Andrew Lowe, said Thompson hit Aarone in the face with a folded magazine at the kitchen table because she wasn't eating, the indictment said.
Just before Aarone vanished, Andrew was awakened one night by her screams echoing through the vent by his bed. He assumed she was in the basement, where the most severe punishment took place, he told investigators.
Finally, Aarone's screams stopped, and the house was quiet.
Beatings every day
One day, when Andrew asked Lowe where Aarone was, he was told she was in Michigan with her mother. After that, Andrew said, anyone who asked about Aarone would "get cussed out."
Tamara Lowe told investigators that no day went by without some child being beaten and that it had happened to her too many times to count.
Sometimes the kids would get hit so hard they could not sit down because of cuts and sores, Tamara said. A dirty room would result in a beating on the hands; bad grades or misbehavior in school meant an extended beating in the basement, often naked and tied to a pole. When they did something bad, two of Lowe's children told their foster mother, they had to go to the basement, take off their clothes and get the "beat down."
Sometimes, punishment came unexpectedly. Andrew Lowe once went to investigate music coming from the basement and was beaten by his mother. Kadezshia said she was in the kitchen making peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for the other children, and Shely Lowe gave her a black eye and bloody nose. Sometimes, Lowe and Thompson took turns hitting the children; other times, Lowe told Thompson to beat the kids while she watched, the indictment said.
Thompson never hit Lowe's children unless she told him to, Kadezshia said, according to the indictment.
Kadezshia told therapist Vicki Kearney that she once took Thompson a glass of water in the basement after he yelled for it. He was beating his son, Aaron, who was naked and tied to a pole, Kadezshia said, but he stopped long enough to drain the glass, according to the report. "I am ready for more," Thompson said to Aaron. "Are you?"
Others knew about abuse
The report makes clear that some people who came into the house saw what was happening.
"I'm just trying to figure out, if the acquaintances knew about this, why didn't they report it?" said Aarone's and the younger Aaron's mother, Lynette Thompson, from her home in Detroit. "And if protective services had been at the house, why didn't they do anything? Aarone would still be alive."
Social services in Michigan and Colorado knew about Lowe. From 1997 to 2001, there were reports that she beat Andrew and Kadezshia with a belt and hit Andrew in the head with a cell phone. There was a report about Kadezshia's black eye and Aarone's bruised face.
In fact, social services was uppermost in Lowe's mind the day that Aarone stopped breathing.
Lowe didn't call for help, she said later, because she didn't want to lose her kids.
ryckmanl@RockyMountainNews.com
The case
* November 2005: Aarone Thompson, 6, is reported as a runaway by her father, Aaron Thompson. Within days Aurora police call off the search, saying they believe the child had been murdered up to 18 months earlier. The Arapahoe County Department of Human Services places seven children living with Aaron Thompson and live-in girlfriend Shely Lowe in foster care. An infant daughter also is taken into protective custody. Thompson and Lowe are named "persons of interest."
* April 2006: A jury finds Thompson and Lowe neglectful parents and the court rules they will not get their children back.
* May 4, 2006: The Arapahoe County district attorney and Aurora police chief announce the case of Aarone's suspected murder will go to a grand jury.
* May 12, 2006: Lowe dies of a heart attack at age 33.
* May 16, 2007: Aurora police arrest Thompson in connection with his daughter's death.
* May 17, 2007: A grand jury indicts Thompson on 60 counts, including child abuse resulting in the Aarone's death.
* October 2007: A judge rules there is enough evidence to put Thompson on trial in the presumed death of his daughter.
* April 7: The Colorado Supreme Court orders the release of details related to child abuse charges contained in the indictment.
* April 28: The state Supreme Court turns down an appeal to keep the indictment secret, leading to its release Wednesday.
The investigation
Aurora police poured massive resources into the Aarone Thompson case, initially in the search for the child, and later in trying to determine what happened to her.
70+ officers searched for Aarone after she was reported missing Nov. 14, 2005. They were aided by bloodhounds and infrared equipment that can look for heat sources in places a child might hide.
27 detectives were assigned to the case; 27 technical experts, including members of other police departments, were consulted.
* In the year after Aarone was reported missing, police interviewed more than 450 witnesses in six states, traveled to the Caribbean island nation of Haiti in search of answers and gathered more than 470 pieces of evidence.
* Police made extensive use of DNA evidence to establish that Aarone had disappeared from her home long before she was reported missing. They used a piece of Aarone's clothing to establish the child's DNA, then swabbed large portions of the house in search of matching samples. Her DNA was not found on bedding, toothbrushes or Halloween costumes and candy.
* The last known picture of Aarone was snapped at Grand Canyon National Park. Police consulted experts at the park who were able to estimate her height and the time of year by studying the foliage in the picture.
* Police also did some old-fashioned legwork, establishing, for example, that Aarone's last medical appointment was May 12, 2002, for an abscessed tooth.
What's new
Many of the details in the indictment of Aaron Thompson released Wednesday have never been made public until now. Most concern Shely Lowe, Thompson's live-in girlfriend, who has since died.
Among the new revelations, according to the indictment:
* Lowe called her aunt in 2003, possibly in July or August, and asked, "What happens if a child stops breathing?" Velma Jean Belizaire told Lowe to call 911. Lowe said she couldn't because she was worried her children would be taken away.
* Authorities interviewed the children living with Thompson and Lowe in November 2005, after Thompson told police he couldn't find his daughter. The children say Aarone was in their Aurora home the morning she was reported missing. Later they said they were coached and admitted they had not seen Aarone for years, and one child had never seen her.
* Lowe told Eric Williams Sr., who fathered two children with her, that Aarone was in a bathtub when she stopped breathing. Lowe said she had not done anything to the girl and tried mouth-to-mouth resuscitation but Aarone was dead.
* Lowe and Thompson decided to get rid of the body because Aarone had a scar on her back "from where they had disciplined her" and they did not want social services taking the other kids away.
* According to Williams, Lowe said she and Thompson buried Aarone in a field in an unknown location. "Thompson dug a grave and placed the child in there. (Lowe) said that when they put the dirt over the child, the last breath of the child was coming out of her body," the indictment said.
Tabitha Graves' testimony
* Lowe had a tearful conversation about Aarone in 2004 with Tabitha Graves, Lowe's only known friend. Months earlier, Lowe said, Aarone had not come down for breakfast so she went to check on her. Aarone was not moving and not breathing.
Lowe said she didn't do anything to Aarone and was scared.
Lowe told Graves she and Thompson were trying to come up with different scenarios to explain Aarone's absence.
Graves also had a number of taped conversations with Lowe. Among the taped remarks:
* Lowe told Graves she floated various stories about what happened to Aarone.
* In one conversation Graves said, "Aarone is dead." Lowe replied, "How do you know that?" Graves said, "Because you told me she was." Lowe said, "OK, OK, OK."
* Graves asked Lowe to put flowers on Aarone's grave and Lowe said she'd have Aaron do it.
The children
* Four of the eight children taken from the home of Aaron Thompson Sr. and Shely Lowe are in foster care and up for adoption, according to the Arapahoe County Human Services Department. Privacy laws protect the outcome for the other four children.
* The witness list in the case gives the addresses of seven of the children as being in the care of the human services department. The eighth was too young to be a witness and is not on the list.
What's next
* An arraignment is scheduled for May 21 in Arapahoe County District Court for Aaron Thompson, accused in the death of his daughter, Aarone. A trial is scheduled for June, but could be delayed for months.
* Griego: Grand jury indictment paints a pathetic picture. 42
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April 30, 2008
8:40 a.m.
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medina88 writes:
I can't wait to see this man suffer behind bars until his death. No child deserves to be treated this way. Poor baby girl.
April 30, 2008
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fleetmack writes:
Maybe I'm missing something huge here, but 2 years without food? Wouldn't one starve long before that time period expired?
April 30, 2008
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50something writes:
Now finally the remaining children can begin a long, long healing process.
April 30, 2008
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buffsblg writes:
"These people"?? What group are you choosing to stereotype today juden?
April 30, 2008
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Lewlew writes:
Jueden, what people are you talking about?
April 30, 2008
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MRSTTYLER writes:
THIS IS FOR JEUDEN_FREI WHAT DO YOU MEAN TYPICAL BEHAVIOR OF THESE PEOPLE?
April 30, 2008
8:56 a.m.
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vudumom writes:
jueden_frei, that was uncalled for. Be nice.
April 30, 2008
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Scott writes:
Part of Thompson's punishment should be mandatory confinement in general population at the state prison. Being a child abuser this Waste of Human Genetic Material (WoHGM) should last no more that one year. Let the crooks administer to this WoHGM what the courts refuse to do especially when their pals, the libs, get their silken undies in a knot.
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April 30, 2008
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April 30, 2008
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MRSTTYLER writes:
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING I LIVE IN MONTBELLO AND I DON'T WANT YOU OUT HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH THAT ATTIUDE YOU ARE SO SORRY.
April 30, 2008
9:03 a.m.
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MRSTTYLER writes:
KOLLERBEAR THERE ARE A LOT OF AFRICAN AMERICANS LIKE MY SELF THAT DON'T DO ANY OF THOSE THINGS THANK YOU
April 30, 2008
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April 30, 2008
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MRSTTYLER writes:
JEUDEN_FREI
KOLLERBEAR
I AM SORRY YOU BOTH FEEL THIS WAY BUT BOTH OF YOU NEED
JESUS AND PLEASE DO NOT WRITE ME BACK.
April 30, 2008
9:22 a.m.
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truth22 writes:
This is for koller and jeud, I am a hard working black man and I have plenty more friends that are as well. I have no chip on my shoulder. I just want to live a good life and take care of my family. It's people like you two ignorant ________ that are the problem in this country along with monsters like Aarone!
April 30, 2008
9:27 a.m.
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truth22 writes:
There are a lot of reasons. You name a few first.
Why are you so prejudiced against what seems to be ALL blacks?
April 30, 2008
9:29 a.m.
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kmeissner writes:
truth... you mean Aaron, right? Aarone was the child
April 30, 2008
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April 30, 2008
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kollerbear writes:
Way to go "MarineGrunt"
it's ok for YOU to stereotype. Talk about ignorant........
April 30, 2008
9:32 a.m.
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Mike Noe writes:
jeuden_frei, your comments are inappropriate. Making racist comments about the black community violates our policy. Debate the merits of Rocky Mountain News stories or I'll ban you from the site.
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April 30, 2008
9:34 a.m.
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kollerbear writes:
Mr. "Sttyler", neither one of US (juden) had to resort to foul language and abusive posts. Try to be more creative.
April 30, 2008
9:35 a.m.
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leech67 writes:
jeuden_frei, just shut up.
Everyone has a flaw. so lets not pull the race card.
April 30, 2008
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April 30, 2008
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truth22 writes:
Thanks KM....Aaron is the monster.
April 30, 2008
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Scott writes:
Hey Mike Noe,
Go take a look in the archives at all of the sewage that jeuden_frie posts. With its excretions you should have banned it a loooongggg time ago.
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April 30, 2008
9:52 a.m.
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blacksho89 writes:
Aarone Thompson was tortured to death by the two people who should have protected her. That is the real story, here, not the rantings of a loser who needs to get off his mom's computer and get back to eighth grade.
April 30, 2008
9:52 a.m.
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JTTAAB writes:
There is not a punishment harsh enough for Aaron Thompson !!
April 30, 2008
10:01 a.m.
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3mta3 writes:
Wow. I think everyone, EVERYONE is losing sight of what this article is about; what this article is telling us; WHO it is about. Justice needs to be served for this little girl.
We all have our opinions and we all have the right to free speech. Every single one of us. You are all arguing and insulting each other, but you're not accomplishing anything. If that's what this is about, rather than about Aarone; why is it okay for the black people to insult the whites, but it is not okay for the whites to insult the blacks? Ignorance. None of you know me or know my race;it's irrelevant. Why is everyone so defensive of their race and of their stereotypes? Is it because there are so many truths to them? Is it because you actually believe that YOU had something to do with what race you were born, and you have "black pride" or "white pride"? Seriously, isn't it like being proud of the fact that you're tall? You didn't have any say in it. Aarone didn't have any say in what happened to her either. Maybe we should focus on justice and on prevention of this crime happening rather than who lives where.
April 30, 2008
10:07 a.m.
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tm3869 writes:
This is so sad, that this child, no matter what color she is, has died and all we can do is bash each other and be bigots! Please be nice....life is too short and too complicated to act this way.....
April 30, 2008
10:09 a.m.
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kollerbear writes:
Marine Grunt,
why aren't you at work? Your boss at McDonald's is calling....
April 30, 2008
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RockLobster writes:
You know,Grunt, you'd stand alot better chance of us taking you seriously if it weren't for the fact that you use abusive language and/or insult someone in almost all of your posts. You even attack people BEFORE they post. Wow, talk about an Angry Pirate!!!!
April 30, 2008
11:12 a.m.
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Squatch writes:
I hope this guy dies apainful death and Lowe is rotting in hell for being involved in this.
You all need to quit your stupid racist & stereotypical comments because if im not mistaken some European White guy held his own daughter captive for most of her life all while raping her and fathering 7 children with her.
Sick people come in all colors but when you focus on only specific group you miss all the other sickos who are still running around ruining other peoples lives.
April 30, 2008
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April 30, 2008
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mytwosense writes:
I read this story earlier today, before leaving my house to run some errands. While I was driving, I could not get the image of little Aarone locked in a dark closet with her only comfort the feeling of her sister's hand underneath the door. I started crying, unable to stop.
I just do not know what the answer is to end such abuse to the most defenseless among us. All I can say if you suspect someone is being abused, please notify the authorities. If you are worried about repercussions, don't - they will keep your name anonymous.
I would also like to add that those who are assuming only the poor and minority groups abuse their children, look up the story of little Jason Midyette, a ten week old infant who was systematically abused by his parents until he was ultimately killed by a brain injury. And his father comes from a very well-to-do and prominent Boulder family.
May both his and little Aarone's souls finally rest in peace.
April 30, 2008
12:42 p.m.
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Shaupeen writes:
With a name like Jueden Frei (free of Jews) what were you expecting from the little goose-stepper? Empathy? Compassion? His elevator doesn't stop on those floors.
April 30, 2008
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blacksho89 writes:
3mta3:
A well thought out, rational post.
You have no place here.
April 30, 2008
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holekeeper writes:
first to all of the closet racists that wouldnt say boo to a black guy if he was confronted, get a clue. Search youtube for all of the videos on chils abuse and you will see a lot of white people.
Second to everyone else. thank you. I am glad to see that we have not turned this into a debate about politics and the such as I have seen in other threads concerning crime. I pray for this little girl and I hope that she was able to find peace before she left us. I hope she found a little place in her mind that brought her comfort while the bad things were taking place. I shed tears for all of those children out there that are still going through things like this and I wish there was a way I could find you and save you.
I just hope Aaron will do the right thing and tell the ploice where the body is so her brothers and sisters can say goodbye.
April 30, 2008
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blacksho89 writes:
I bet MarineGrunt isn't one.
April 30, 2008
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cheqmate writes:
So granted the guy appears to be guilty, but he has not yet been tried. What we read about was the indictment not trial proceedings. It looks extremely bad, but what about innocent until proven guilty? One comment in the article stated that an officer interrupted a press conference to suggest that Thompson should talk to police as though not talking to the police is a bad thing. As I remember the 5th amendment, talking to the police is not necessary, and not talking has no bearing on guilt or innocence.
Furthermore; are quotes made by someone referring to what a dead person told him admissible evidence?
At face value this case appears to be a slam dunk against Thompson, but where is the trial?
April 30, 2008
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psu96 writes:
I see your making friends here as well....
April 30, 2008
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cheqmate writes:
Really? One person makes an ignorant comment, and that is what this forum is now about?
Isn't that the granting of power to the person making the ignorant comment?
April 30, 2008
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RockLobster writes:
Beef Eater, I wasn't on Grunt's back. All I did was try to make a constructive suggestion. There are many ways of getting one's point across. I just don't happen to subscribe to the name-calling and degrading menthod of communication. Tough to earn respect by going about it in that fashion, at least in my book.
And FYI, my use of the term "Angry Pirate" was simply a call-back from one of Grunt's earlier post's that was deleted. One that DEFINTELY deserved to be deleted!
April 30, 2008
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davies writes:
cheqmate: C'mon man, this is not a dude to be rationalizing for: "...as though not talking to the police is a bad thing"
The case here was that the guy had reported the daughter missing. As soon as it became apparent to him that the police were getting suspicious, he stops talking and you support his right to do so? OK fine, but if he's got his rights then don't deny others their own right to free speech when the truth becomes apparent. He'll get a trial by a jury of his peers if he wants one.
On another topic: MarineGrunt, you are having a bad day, but apparently Jueden's is even worse because his posts don't even show as being deleted - they're just gone. Does this mean he/she has been "eliminated" permanently?
April 30, 2008
2:36 p.m.
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kollerbear writes:
Wow. I think everyone, EVERYONE is losing sight of what this article is about; what this article is telling us; WHO it is about. Justice needs to be served for this little girl.
We all have our opinions and we all have the right to free speech. Every single one of us. You are all arguing and insulting each other, but you're not accomplishing anything. If that's what this is about, rather than about Aarone; why is it okay for the black people to insult the whites, but it is not okay for the whites to insult the blacks? Ignorance. None of you know me or know my race;it's irrelevant. Why is everyone so defensive of their race and of their stereotypes? Is it because there are so many truths to them? Is it because you actually believe that YOU had something to do with what race you were born, and you have "black pride" or "white pride"? Seriously, isn't it like being proud of the fact that you're tall? You didn't have any say in it. Aarone didn't have any say in what happened to her either. Maybe we should focus on justice and on prevention of this crime happening rather than who lives where.
April 30, 2008
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davies writes:
kollerbear: That's plagiarism.
April 30, 2008
2:45 p.m.
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CaptainObvious writes:
Apparently we are now Jueden_Frei_Frei
And my goodness do some people know how throw the insults--I just googled "angry pirate." That is some creativity, even if the watch dog here dumps your response. Marine Grunt, you have certainly been in the service. There is no way a person who hasn't served could come up with those.
April 30, 2008
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BirdonaWire writes:
Don't the wannabe supremacists have to go tend to their doublewide and moonshine still? Mama need a little lovin' Juden Frei? The day I ever see an intelligent, well-spoken and productive skinhead will be the day I will listen to their inbred spew. Yeah Juden, you were just helping that sheep over the fence. Oh wait, that's your mom! Sorry
April 30, 2008
2:54 p.m.
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grandma6 writes:
This type of neglect and abuse is not limited to color! A pleasant 32 year old white male beat the living daylights out of a 7 month old white middle class baby. This torture went on for months until it finally culminated in the final beating that saved her from his hands! It is ignorant to suggest so! Neglect and abuse is in all walks of life, regardless of color or money! That kind of attitude will mean that white middle class kids will continue to be abused and neglected because your blinders are on! Open your eyes and look around. The state report had several WHITE children who were abused.
April 30, 2008
2:58 p.m.
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RockLobster writes:
HOLY CR**!! Good advise, BeefEater. I did indeed Google "AP", and although I'm far from a prude I think I actually blushed while reading the meaning.
In regard to the topic at hand, as a father of two I've had a hard time formulating rational thoughts about what these monsters put this poor little girl through to even comment.
Rest in peace, Aarone'!
April 30, 2008
2:59 p.m.
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3mta3 writes:
I feel plagiarized!
No, seriously though - kollerbear, thank you for reposting the words that I wrote. It is important for people to focus on the point of the article and not on bashing the other readers.
Again, we all have the right to our opinions, but let's try to stay focused. This is about informing us re: Aarone and the justice that will (hopefully) prevail if Aaron Thompson did, in fact do this.
April 30, 2008
3:05 p.m.
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grandma6 writes:
This should be a time to reflect on how we are treating our children and any other child. They need to be top of any totem pole! It takes a village! (No I don't support her but definitely the saying.) Our kids are being neglected and we need to stop it. Kempe.org has a lot of information. Take the time to read the information. Then take the time to look around you and see where you can make a difference to a child!
April 30, 2008
3:17 p.m.
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cheqmate writes:
I appreciate your comment davies, but I must disagree to some extent.
To begin with, if he did what he is accused of, then he should be put to death, and done so with the speed of the Texas death penalty.
Even so, I have a couple of questions about the issue. For instance, the article states that social services was involved with the family before the date that the family reported the disappearance. Where was the intervention? Some of the accusations appear difficult to hide in even a cursory investigation.
Secondly, and this part takes a bit of explanation, as for him not speaking to police, I took a small bit of satisfaction away from the fact that he did not. When the Ramsey case occurred, I felt that had it been a regular Joe, as opposed to a super rich person, the regular Joe would have sat in jail while they investigated. Aaron Thompson demonstrated that I was wrong, we do still have some civil rights that do not require the 'Dream Team' to instantiate.
If he did it, then he should forfeit his life, but a trial will be needed, not an indictment.
Additionally, I feel tremendously for Aarone. No matter what occurs from here on out, justice will never be served. Justice entails things being made right, but that cannot happen. Things will never be right, regardless of what is to occur in the Thompson trial...and there is to be one isn't there?
April 30, 2008
3:18 p.m.
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davies writes:
Here's another evil conservative weighing in. I have to say that what the 'justice system' has in store for this guy will not be true justice, no matter what sentence is imposed. From his prison peers, maybe, but I don't advocate anything like that either. Fortunately I do have spiritual beliefs that help me deal with this kind of story.
Also I'd like to say that the rascist stuff is regrettable and that most of us baby boomer middle class WASPs don't think that way. Many in the social services field can cite statistics that show that those who are abused grow up to be abusers, so the most constructive thing to say is that if there is anything one can do at some point to break the cycle of abuse in some person's life, it might help the future Aarones of the world.
April 30, 2008
3:22 p.m.
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davies writes:
If I were him, I'd skip the trial, plead guilty and spend my time on death row watching TV. I wouldn't want to take a chance being put in the general prison population.
April 30, 2008
3:34 p.m.
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grandma6 writes:
Death would be too nice for him. He should be tortured for years! General population will have their code of ethics and take care of him for us.
April 30, 2008
3:47 p.m.
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holekeeper writes:
cheqmate,
The social services visit occured after she was gone. that is why he then contacted police to report her missing. that is why there was no intervention. the social services worker came a few days before the report. that is what i beleive they are referring to.
Hope that anwsers your question.
I have to agree with everything else you said.
April 30, 2008
4:13 p.m.
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indisbelief writes:
Just on a general note... "judenfrei" is German for "free of Jews", used during WWII regarding the extermination of Jews in the concentration camps...
just FYI...
April 30, 2008
4:14 p.m.
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SteveC writes:
I hope these "people", and I use the term very loosely, rot in hell for the suffering they inflicted on this little girl.
April 30, 2008
4:14 p.m.
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indisbelief writes:
and no, I'm not Jewish. I just don't like bigots.
April 30, 2008
4:36 p.m.
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cheqmate writes:
holekeeper, you may be correct about social services, but I was referring to the following statement in the article, "Neighbors and a social worker who visited the family say they had not seen Aarone for years." which I may likely have misunderstood.
I was under the impression that the family had some history with social services, but I do not fully recollect.
April 30, 2008
4:40 p.m.
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Devil_Dog writes:
Rules taught to me by my father.
Never pick on anyone or anything that cannot defend themselves.
Always come to the aid of those who cannot defend themselves.
Don't wake your mother up when you come home.
If you're out I better not get a call from the police or your girlfriends mother.
If you're honest with yourself it's easy to be honest with others.
All PEOPLE are created equal, some just choose to be bad.
Don't suffer stupidity.
Follow these rule and your life will be a good one, this scumbag (and many ignorant bigoted posters here) obviously didn't have an intelligent father, or chose not to learn from him. I wish I (or anyone else) could've been there for this poor little angel!
Good bless you little one!!!
April 30, 2008
4:51 p.m.
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davies writes:
bropous: Calm down; you're not going to convert anyone with self-righteous preaching.
I liked to debate Jeuden Frei sometimes; he/she seems intelligent, capable of at least arguing rationally, and sometimes humorous. I'm not sure if he/she is as bigoted as advertised, or just liked to prod people for the sake of amusement. I must have missed some doozies today...
Maybe he/she thought that the name meant "free the Jews".
April 30, 2008
5:02 p.m.
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davies writes:
I guess I'm just saying that I'd rather engage someone in debate, then rant self-righteously just to feel good about myself. But if you wanna hang with the name-callers, you've obviously got company there too.
April 30, 2008
5:17 p.m.
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holekeeper writes:
chequemate I will try to do some looking, I reread the story and you are indeed correct.
May 1, 2008
4:23 a.m.
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LOUIE writes:
Somewhere a little girl's voice crys out unto the Lord. Now those little fingers reaching out from under that door have found the hand of God...
May 1, 2008
6:58 a.m.
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grandma6 writes:
Louie, that is the most profound statement I think I have ever heard! You bring it full circle and helps me work through the horror this little girl suffered. thanks
May 1, 2008
8:10 a.m.
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mrNiceGuy writes:
When I read things like this, I wonder why there is not more vigilante justice in this country. This makes me sick to my stomach and what can we do - sit and watch the same dumbF's that dropped the ball on so many innocent children charge this murderer. F that! Where's the outcry? Rolo got better press. I want to see DHS charged, the local po charged, teachers charged. It is obvious that so many people turned a blind eye to - how many kids? Really, with that many kids being tortured in their own home, no body got a clue? Nobody? Sick!
Mainstream news has become nothing but a source of entertainment. Where's the the real truth? Without truth, how can we invoke accountability. What social worker visited this house and left without doing anything? Who knows! Fired like he or she should be? Probably not - but who pays that person's check - we do.
May 1, 2008
9:01 a.m.
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mytwosense writes:
Louie, your words comforted me a bit. Thanks.
mrNiceGuy, and what about the neighbors, too? I cannot see how, with seven children being abused in that house, someone didn't hear something.
Too many people turn a blind eye and "mind their own business." They don't want to make waves. They don't want to get involved. They want to be left alone and not have to interact with the very people who live around them. I believe that is indicative of a society that is becoming ever more disconnected from each other, and we would do well to examine why.
Just as an aside, I know that government isn't the answer to many of our social ills, but I wonder if Colorado's social services programs are operating on fumes at this point. We need to make sure that is a well-funded program, and that the people who are hired to keep tabs on potentially abusive situations are doing their jobs. The public needs to step up and make them accountable, but of course, we need insight into their procedures to do so. We should demand that.
May 1, 2008
9:28 a.m.
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rg writes:
The following comment was removed by site staff. I wish they had the balls to come on board and tell those stricken what is wrong with their comment that it must be censured.
It is written in the Bible: Dash the children against the wall; kill the rebellious son; suffer the children. Truly, the Grand Jury ascertains the truth because lawyers are conspicuous by their absence. I believe Thompson is as much a monster as the jew and arab gods in the Bible and the Qu’ran. I’d like to see done to Thompson as was done to the fictional jew god, but only in reality. I sired four girls and one boy; trying to imagine the suffering endured by the children under the care of Thompson: Ah man, may the inmates do unto him what he did unto the children. Richard Grimes, deicide.
Deicide Corner:
Eskimo: "If I did not know about God and sin,
would I go to hell?"
Priest: "No, not if you did not know."
Eskimo: "Then why did you tell me?"
-- U.S. writer Annie Dillard
May 1, 2008
9:41 a.m.
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tm3869 writes:
Louie,
You put all this into perspective. So glad she does not have to suffer anymore.
May 1, 2008
10:04 a.m.
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mytwosense writes:
rg, all I can tell you is that, as a Christian, I struggle with understanding much of the Old Testament. And, I struggle with understanding how the God that I believe in allows the kind of abuse so many suffer in this world today. It requires constant questioning about the reasons behind granting humans free will. Unfortunately, there is a sector of Christians who seem to believe this kind of questioning is heretical.
I know that when I read stories like this one about little Aarone, I simultaneously cry out to God "Why?" while praying that He will help our world. It is times like this when I find myself questioning more than ever the purpose of free will.
May 1, 2008
10:40 a.m.
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rg writes:
Thanks mytwosense; and, if the site staff doesn’t go bananas over their censuring power, I acknowledge your dilemma over being a Christian since Jesus and Jehovah are the same fiction to which Ingersoll explains:
“Christ, according to the faith, is the second person in the Trinity, the Father being the first and the Holy Ghost the third. Each of these persons is God. Christ is his own father and his own son. The Holy Ghost is neither father nor son, but both. The son was begotten by the father, but existed before he was begotten--just the same before as after. . . .
“So, it is declared that the Father is God, and the Son God, and the Holy Ghost God, and that these three Gods make one God.
“According to the celestial multiplication table, once one is three, and three times one is one, and according to heavenly subtraction, if we take two from three, three are left. The addition is equally peculiar, if we add two to one, we have but one. . . .
“Nothing ever was, nothing ever can be more perfectly idiotic and absurd than the dogma of the Trinity.” -- Robert G. Ingersoll
Therefore, mytwosense, little Arrone is no better off with the son than with father Jehovah or Thompson as evidenced afore unless site staff brings out its Comstock power. Richard Grimes, deicide: Slayer of Gods without exception.
May 1, 2008
11:17 a.m.
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mytwosense writes:
rg, I believe the Bible does distinguish the three bodies that make up the Holy Trinity, particularly from a reconciliation standpoint. And in fact, using the Bible as a comparative analogy, it is comprised of many chapters - yet it is still one book.
May 1, 2008
11:48 a.m.
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jvb writes:
Mytwo: you are making as much sense as the Holy Trinity which is not found in the Bible, 66 books by unknown authors, many which should be rated X, and filled with violence, rape, murder, adultery, fornication, pedophiliac, concubines, polygamy and all manner of immorality declared moral in which no other book in history can one find more debauchery and ill-treatment of women while declared final by Emperor Constantine. Grimm’s fairy tales consist of a bunch of chapters, a bunch of fairytales involving talking animals such as found in the Bible proving it is a fable, but yet one book. Some writer skilled in creativity will create a fable in which Arrońe can be seen playing with talking animals in heaven.
May 1, 2008
12:57 p.m.
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mytwosense writes:
Now I wish I'd never entered a debate over religion. It's helped to derail the topic of this thread, which is about a little girl who was abused to death. If the topic hadn't veered off course, maybe all of us could have put aside our differences and come up with some ideas on how society can better protect abused children.
My apologies to all for my role in preventing this from happening.
May 1, 2008
1:51 p.m.
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mis_kia79 writes:
HE SHOULD DIE AND BURN IN HELL!!! THE DEATH PENALTY IS THE ONLY PUNISHMENT HE DESERVES AND I HOPE LOWE IS IN HELL GETTING BEAT. CHILDREN DON'T ASK TO BE HERE, IF YOU DON'T WANT THEM CLOSE YOUR LEGS, USE BIRTH CONTROL, CONDOMS. THERE ARE TO MANY OPTIONS TO PERVENT PREGNANCY. THEY COULD HAVE GIVEN AARONE BACK TO HER MOTHER OR TO ANOTHER FAMILY MEMBER. THIS IS AN OUTRAGE AND THE DEPT. OF HUMAN SERVICES IS A JOKE. SEVERAL CHILDREN HAVE DIED UNDER THE SO CALLED SUPERVISION OF THESE PEOPLE WHO DON'T REALLY CARE, THEY JUST NEED TO BE PAID. GOD BLESS AARONE, SHE DIED WAY TO YOUNG AND ENTIRELY UNJUST.
May 1, 2008
3:10 p.m.
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redpoppie writes:
WTF is wrong with this world?? What kind of man beats the crap out of a 2 year old?? Or any child?? I feel sick......................................
May 1, 2008
3:14 p.m.
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redpoppie writes:
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May 1, 2008
3:15 p.m.
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redpoppie writes:
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May 2, 2008
8:36 a.m.
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gr8fuldude writes:
Funny, but where is Sam Riddel shooting off his mouth now, as the self-appointed "family spokesman"...(Anyone remember how he pulled the same stuff with the Shoales family after Columbine?)
May 2, 2008
9:43 a.m.
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rg writes:
I'll probably be stricken by the Comstock staff; however, here it is:
I look at the picture of Thompson and Lowe and I see two fat black slobs; if they were of another color they'd be fat slobs of that color. I wonder if Thompson has any idea of what a despicable, repugnant,evil, sinister member of the human race that he is. Richard Grimes, deicide http://www.geocities.com/r22037/think...