LINCICOME: Hooeytown - it will be Avalanche in six
By Bernie Lincicome, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)
Published April 23, 2008 at 10:41 p.m.
And, so, back to Hockeytown.
Well, there are worse places, though the list is short. An active landfill. Reality television. Inside Dick Cheney's head.
How, exactly, this became Hockeytown is unclear except the notion goes unchallenged, possibly because everyone else thinks the name is a practical joke that only Detroit does not get.
It is not like being called Titletown, as Green Bay refers to itself, or the Windy City, a measure of toughness for Chicago, or our own Mile High City, which can be used to intimidate visitors, but rather more like the Mistake on the Lake (Cleveland) Cowtown (Kansas City) or The Big Guava (Tampa).
There is just not a lot of competition for the names, and tying your identity to hockey is like tying your dog to a fire hydrant. Think about it.
Odder still than pride in being the so-called headquarters for the fifth major sport - maybe four, now that stock-car racing is slipping - is the tradition of throwing octopi onto the ice, there being no natural habitat for such creatures near Detroit.
Apparently, the throwing is still not prohibited but twirling is strictly against the rules. The Zamboni driver, Al Sobotka, had the habit of twirling the slimy cephalopods around his head, like some sort of crazed Jules Verne character.
Again, for odd appeal, this would be akin to someone from Fiji, say Vijay Singh, throwing a cow patty like a discus after making a birdie, and who would care why?
Because tiny bits of octopi tended to fly away, the twirling is now subject to $10,000 fine although folding the legs up like origami is still allowed.
Into this bizarre world go the Avs, not strangers, of course, having won and lost here before, having involved themselves in one of the great hockey fights of all time, enough to sustain a rivalry long after the teams themselves were worthy.
But there are enough players left from those days to keep an edge on things. Joe Sakic, Adam Foote and Peter Forsberg remain for the Avalanche and Kris Draper, Kirk Maltby and Darren McCarty are still around for the Wings. Chris Chelios is, of course, older than hockey itself.
In addition, there is the residue of an earlier chippiness, on the part of the Avs, that might cause some concern.
In their final regular-season meeting, in Denver, Avs instigator Ian Laperriere threw a dubious forearm at star Nicklas Lidstrom's head. The Red Wings captain sprained his knee but did not suffer any real serious injury.
Still, this caused Red Wing Aaron Downey to take a crack at Laperriere, and coach Mike Babcock got into a shouting match with Avalanche assistant coach Tony Granato along the bench.
Because it is the playoffs, the normal payback might be withheld. On the other hand, check the first time Laperriere takes a shift.
The Red Wings shut out the Avalanche in three of four meetings and won the other, doing something unfamiliar to the cleaning crew at Joe Louis Arena, which is to sweep.
This was before the late-season additions of Forsberg and defensemen Foote and Ruslan Salei, not to mention the growing competency of goalie Jose Theodore.
Plus, Colorado was without Sakic in all four games against the Red Wings, and Ryan Smyth and Paul Stastny each appeared in only two.
This is a whole new challenge for Detroit, and the top-seeded Red Wings had more trouble in the first round with the last seed, Nashville, than the Avs did with higher-seeded Minnesota.
The reason for each is the goaltending. The great relic, Dominik Hasek, wobbled for the Red Wings in goal and has been replaced by the imperfect Chris Osgood since. Had the Wings lost, it would clearly have been the goaltending, just as the reason the Avs won is the revival of Theodore.
Foote, who smothered the Wilds' best scorer, Marian Gaborik, might have the same task against the Wings' Henrik Zetterberg or Pavel Datsyuk. Frustration by the Wild over Foote's competence showed itself in one game full of penalties, and if he does the same against the Wings' scorers, well, the pot is just under boiling as it is.
There might still be a sense that the Avs are playing beyond their station, especially with Theodore, but that would be the feeling from a place that calls itself Hockeytown.
After the Avs win the thing in six, a new name might be Loserville.
April 24, 2008
12:10 a.m.
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detroitsexpot2 writes:
i hope forsberg breaks his leg
April 24, 2008
5:34 a.m.
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WingNutInFlorida writes:
it appears that Claude Lemieux must have high sticked Bernie Lincicome...he has lost his sense of reality. Good Luck Avs...it will be a good series regardless of Mr Lincicome's absurd opinions. Cancel your RMN subscription and buy the Post!!
April 24, 2008
6:11 a.m.
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karpat74 writes:
Wow... Denver, you must be proud. Does this newspaper (for lack of a better term) come with a coloring book, free crayons, and a Happy Meal? Or, is this a "newspaper" from one of your local junior high schools? I bet all of you people from Colorado are walking a little taller after this fine piece of Pulitzer work...
This will be an excellent series. However, Lincicome is a joke.
April 24, 2008
6:33 a.m.
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detroitmetal writes:
Thank you Lincicome for your poor attempt at criticism of Detroit,
FYI - One reason Detroit is Hockeytown is the #1 highest scoring American born NHL player is from Detroit. Oh - yeah, so is the #2 highest scoring American player. In fact, hockey players born and raised in Detroit reads like a who's who of all American born players.
Mike Madano, Pat Lafontaine, Doug Weight, Mike Grier, Mark Howe, John Vanbiesbrouck, Brian Rafalski, Gordie Roberts, Brian Rolston, Kevin and Derian Hatcher, Al Iafrate, Craig Janney, Bob Johnson, Dan Keczmer, David Legwand, Chris Luongo, Kelly, Kevin, and Kip Miller, Ryan Miller, Ken Morrow, Craig Patrick, Chris Tamer, Chris Tancil, Mike York, James Wisniewski shall I go on? I can....
April 24, 2008
6:42 a.m.
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VVVV writes:
They call it hockeytown because in the winter, when the snow drifts are too big for the salt trucks to flatten (they don't have snow plows) everyone in their rusted out, rear wheel drive, bald tired, American car (from Mexico) is skating down the vacant, burned out city blocks checking each other into potholes, jacked cars, or donut shops. Really, hockey is the only thing Detroit exports, other than their citizens.
April 24, 2008
6:50 a.m.
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evaald writes:
Comparing Detrioit to a landfill? Come on, show some class. Sure we have our issues, but so apparerntly does Mr. Linicome.
It should be a great series. Go Wings!!
April 24, 2008
6:57 a.m.
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Sportsjunkie writes:
Here's hoping that the two teams can put together another classic series, that will renew this rivalry that has faded of late.
I guess Mr. Lincicome is one of those "cheerleader" type of writers who approves of trash talk. While my preference is sports writers who are journalists who can report and analyze objectively, there will always be a place in sports for the "homer" who stirs up the crowd with a mixture of fact and fantasy.
April 24, 2008
7:01 a.m.
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j_jetson_s writes:
Detroit is called Hockeytown because it was an advertising campaign dreamed up by the Ilitch brothers in 1996.
Detroit was not called Hockeytown before that. It's true, look it up.
April 24, 2008
7:20 a.m.
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detroitmetal writes:
"skating down the vacant, burned out city blocks checking each other into potholes, jacked cars, or donut shops."
I think the negative comments about Detroit coming from Lilly White Denver are coming from people with some deep seated racism.
hey VVVV don't you have some crosses to go burn?
April 24, 2008
7:22 a.m.
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whooziss writes:
Uh, by the way, octopi are NOT gastropods. Not even close. If this loser had actually finished 2nd grade he would probably know that. 'Course, trying to chuck buffalo chips into prairie dog holes was obviously a higher priority for him than education.
April 24, 2008
7:25 a.m.
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Motown writes:
I think the high altitude must have gotten to Lincicome. Before Detroit is Hockeytown, it is Motown and the Motor City. The city produced 1/8 of all WWII supplies while Denver sat by pondering the frost-brew. But yes, its true, we also have superior hockey, baseball, basketball, and college teams (more athletic in general I suppose). I guess the 'little d' feels compelled to assert itself against its big bro. It must hurt that you can't skate as well as a bunch of flat-landers. Don't lose sleep over it.
April 24, 2008
7:28 a.m.
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sparty_fi writes:
What a classless article. Thankfully, I do know that most in CO are better than this, but wow, someone needs to reign this guy in. And as to the Octopus here's the history and tradition behind it. Apparently this guy doesn't appreciate tradition!
The first octopus landed on the ice during the Red Wings' 1952 Stanley Cup run, courtesy of brothers Pete and Jerry Cusimano, who owned a fish market. If you know your cephalopods, you will know that an octopus has eight tentacles. In those days it took eight playoff wins to claim the Cup, hence the supposed symbolism of the gesture.
The Red Wings were perfect in the '52 playoffs, sweeping the semifinal and the final in straight games. The octopus has been a good luck charm ever since
April 24, 2008
7:34 a.m.
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italiantony writes:
Hockeytown is a nickname for the city of Detroit, Michigan, which arose in 1996 thanks to a marketing campaign by the city's NHL franchise, the Detroit Red Wings. The nickname, over time, has gained national and international recognition.
According to Sports Illustrated, Saint Paul, Minnesota can also be called Hockeytown, due not only to the NHL team (Minnesota Wild) but also its college, high school and youth programs.[1] Warroad, Minnesota has also been called Hockeytown, USA over four decades prior to the Red Wings' use of the name.[2] As of the 2006-2007 season, there has been a grassroots movement in Buffalo, NY (home to the NHL's Buffalo Sabres) to label Buffalo as "The New Hockeytown" due to the overwhelming fan presence outside HSBC Arena during games, as well as, throughout the community.[3][4] Despite this, "Hockeytown, USA" is still a registered trademark of Ilitch Holdings, Inc., the parent company of the Red Wings, and the Red Wings will continue to use the name for the foreseeable future.[5
April 24, 2008
8:51 a.m.
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guylef70 writes:
You may think Detroit is Hooey-town. But that column was a total Crap-alanche.
You’re a writer? Seriously? Because that was the most asine unoriginal put down I’ve ever read. And I’m from Detroit. I see a lot of put-downs. Loser-ville? A six year old could write that. Just ask that one you keep locked up in the basement.
My first thought is you wrote this column drunk, because that’s what bitter, hacky sportswriter do. How else to explain it’s incoherence and laziness? Of course, I don’t blame you. Alcohol is probably the only way a talent less, unoriginal old no-talent like you can bear to make it through the day. And given that Vijay Singh, cow patty comment it sounds like you’re a racist to boot.
Fat, drunk, lazy and racist is no way to get through life.
From the sound of it, you don’t even like hockey. You’re writing might improve if you kept to subjects you know about. For instance, write about what it’s like being the worst sportswriter in a Tier 4 market. Write about having to hide your total cluelessness everyday of your life. Write about crying yourself to sleep every night. These are things you probably know about.
On the bright side you can always fall back on writing Wal-Mart circulars. I really hope things turn around for you. Maybe that awful manuscript you've been working on your whole life might sell one day. Or you might be able to find someone willing to have sex with you despite the fact that you probably only make $19,000 a year. Keep dreaming. Stranger things have happened.
April 24, 2008
9:14 a.m.
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rsdemers writes:
Do you kiss your sister(that you married)with that mouth. I guess you so-called journalists just love to trash the upity blacks from Detroit. Deal with your own issues ie. school shootings, riotous fans after every championship(there hasn't been an incident here since 1984), raping female kickers, bad beer, no identity, racist survivalists and your avs losing in four. Denver's two biggest sports icons are Patrick Roy (notorious wife beater) and John Elway. A well known horse-toothed philanderer which you and your cohorts ignored.
I'd liken Denver to Loserville considering the above mentioned. Also we have a much more glorious sports history than you. Get better material Fat Jimmy Olsen.
April 24, 2008
9:23 a.m.
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DirkDiggler writes:
On behalf of all us true Av (and hockey) fans, I'd like to apologize to you Wing fans for AvsIn6. You're unbelievable, dude!
GO AV'S!!!!
April 24, 2008
9:27 a.m.
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wingsfan1 writes:
You are probably the biggest moron ever. This is a terrible article. All it does is bash the city of Detroit. Congratulation beating Minnesota. The only reason Minnesota was #3 is because somebody in that division had to be. So don't be too proud of beating them in 6 GAMES.
Also, maybe you guys can score a goal or two on us in this series. Who is Peter Forsberg? I think he plays like he's older than Chelios. Chelios may be the oldest player, but he's way more in shape than Forsberg.
I don't see how you can predict the Avs will beat the Wings. I think that thin air out there is getting to your head. Maybe McCarty beat your face in like he did to Lemeiux. Your face sure looks like he did. Or maybe you look that way from hitting your head against the wall too many times after you bash the Wings and Detroit in one of your lame ass articles and then the Wings proceed to kick your asses. F off Colorado.
April 24, 2008
9:31 a.m.
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octopus writes:
Bernie, I wonder if you could dig up the column you wrote after the 7-0 Game 7 pasting that ended Roy's career. Check the morgue, maybe.
Detroit in five. We're going to come at you like a spider monkey, Colorado. :)
April 24, 2008
9:43 a.m.
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JP1985 writes:
I never thought I would actually see the day when people from Detroit would try to make fun of Denver as a city. After living in both cities, there's really no comparison. There's a reason that people are leaving Detroit by the hundreds of thousands.
April 24, 2008
9:54 a.m.
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bigsam13 writes:
First off, I can't wait for this series to begin. Yes I am from the Detroit area, but I won't bash either city or team. I am just a sports fan, Wings and Tigers mostly. I want to say that this is going to be FUN. However, I do have to correct AvsIn6 on a couple of points:
"Every state has it, so get over yourself. I love your comment about glorious sports history as well. What's so glorious? A couple of cups?"
- If you are a hockey fan, you would know that the Wings have won 3 cups recently (1997, 1998, & 2002) and have won 10 overall. That's some history.
"When's the last time the Tigers made it to the World Series? The Pistons suck too."
- The Tigers made it to the world series in 2006. Again, if you were a sports fan, you would know that. Pistons suck? HUH? I won't even go there.
Again, I am looking forward to this series and chatting with some level headed Av's fans!
Thanks!
April 24, 2008
10 a.m.
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daverockwood writes:
Can you really get paid to write trash like this? Aside from the attacks on one of this countries oldest and most important large cities, Mr. L displays a blatant contempt for the fine sport of hockey, the very sport played by the teams which he is writing about. The irony is tangible. Why is "tying your identity to hockey like tying your dog to a fire hydrant"? Tell it to the players in Denver you fool. Hockey has a rich history, the pro game began in the midwest (not Canada), with Houghton (Portage Lakes) in Michigan's upper peninsula, being the locus and origin (around 1901)of the first pro league. Detroit has hosted hockey games almost as long as Denver has been on the map and has had a pro team for over 80 consecutive years. The latest version of the Detroit Red Wings is the best hockey team in the world according to many experts. Rock on Hockeytown, and keep your sticks on the ice!
April 24, 2008
10:05 a.m.
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DirkDiggler writes:
I agree that this article is ultra-lame but I was hoping that a decent conversation would develop that was actually about hockey. Pretty obvious that's not going to happen here. It appears this has simply provided an avenue for the name-callers to feel superior. Weak!
April 24, 2008
10:09 a.m.
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JP1985 writes:
Why are all of these people from Detroit reading a Denver sports article anyway? Did a bored Detroit native get offended by a sports writer in Colorado and post a link on a Red Wings message board?
Or maybe you're all just huge closet fans of Denver sports teams. I kinda doubt it.
April 24, 2008
10:14 a.m.
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bigsam13 writes:
So, our 3 recent cups are "lil"? What about your 2 recent cups? And all the others were won before Colorado even had a team. Before the Avs long and rich history, and before the Rockies. Have the Nuggets ever won anything?
That is all I have to say about that. I, too, was looking for decent conversation.
April 24, 2008
10:18 a.m.
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detroitmetal writes:
currently 24 players from Detroit Area in the NHL.
currently 2 players from all of Colorado in the NHL.
MI has more rinks and youth programs than any other state.
40 years old and I still play 3 nights a week.
Too bad we can't get an article about hockey from Denver without it ripping Detroit.
Lincicome and the Rocky Mountain News, you've disgraced yourselves for your comments on another American city.
April 24, 2008
10:21 a.m.
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JP1985 writes:
Let's talk about the Avs and Wings in the playoffs.
Let's talk about the five playoff series these teams have played. I'll ask the Detroit fans, who has won more of those series? No need to look it up: Avs 3-2.
Let's talk about the 30 playoff games these teams have played. I'll ask the Detroit fans, who has won more of those games? No need to look it up: Avs 17-13.
We all know there's only one way to settle this. Let's watch the series and then we'll know who is the better team.
April 24, 2008
10:24 a.m.
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bigsam13 writes:
I agree JP1985. I can't wait to see these games. May the better team win. I just hope it's the Wings.
April 24, 2008
10:29 a.m.
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rsdemers writes:
Hey AvsIn6,
Wings Cups-10 Last cup 2002
Tigers World Series-4 Last WS appearence 2006
Lions NFL Titles-4 Last Title 1957. Yeah they suck.
Pistons NBA Titles-3 Last title 2004.
Crap-alanche-2 Last cup 2001. Nice naming your team after a disaster which is what they are.
Colorado Care Bears-0 last WS appearence 2007. NL sucks.
Horse Teeth-2 last Title 1998. Orange is gay.
Butt Nuggets-0 Last title. Um never and never will.
That's 21 to 4. If you don't want to count pre-Super Bowl titles 17 to 4. You can't even hold a candle to our college sports. Name the last riot since 1984. Don't even say Mallace at the Palace. All I'll have to say is Broncos fans vs Oakland Raiders snowball fight. Not to mention you are batting a 1000 in the four little titles you have. Barry Sanders still lives in Detroit which you can't say about hairlip Roy.
Yeah I'm weak. Weak in the knees when your moms on hers.
April 24, 2008
10:37 a.m.
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eam0415 writes:
AvsIn6 = Crap
April 24, 2008
10:38 a.m.
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Sportsjunkie writes:
Many of the posted comments from both avs and wings fans mirror the tone set by Mr. Lincicome in his column. I'm hoping that his next writing effort about the Wings-Avs series will rise to a higher journalistic level, so we can be spirited "rivals" in the best sense of that word. Hockey has a great tradition and is a great game!
April 24, 2008
10:59 a.m.
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lincicomes_wrinkled_sac writes:
Hey Bernie,
What's your editor's number? Are you guys hiring? I can write Pulitzer-worthy articles like this too. I don't want to give too much away, but it involves calling Oakland Doo-Doo Town. Keep up the good work!
April 24, 2008
11:04 a.m.
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WalterSobchak writes:
Hopefully God won't punish Bernie like he's punishing the Hip Hop Mayor for humping his chief of staff and lying about it under oath.
April 24, 2008
11:24 a.m.
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guylef70 writes:
As far as Joe Louis not selling out, I hear it has thinned out a little, though I'd think it would be pretty strong for the playoffs. The strike evaporated some of the enthusiasm Plus tickets be expensive. With the recession being what it is, money can be a barrier. Plus, with the Pistons and Tigers doing better (I hope) the Wings don't have a lock on the town like they did a little while back.
As far as hockey goes, I hope it lives up to the hype (or else Detroit wins 4-0) . All the talking heads are pretty evenly split. I really can't handicap it more than that.
These playoffs have been real good. Maybe they have the potential to get hockey back on track. For the most part the teams are good with history. No Tampa's or Columbus. How does Columbus get a team anyway? Hopefully this will be a great series that can keep the momentum going.
April 24, 2008
11:24 a.m.
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littlewing writes:
"How, exactly, this became Hockeytown is unclear" - because of the way metro detroit supports hockey, from peewee to midget to bantam to high school to juniors to college to the pros.
"There is just not a lot of competition for the names" - you're right. kinda the same way there's not a line of cities wanting to call themselves the mile high city. wow, are you really a mile high? not as exciting as the mile high club title, but i guess you gotta take what you can.
"Odder still than pride in being the so-called headquarters for the fifth major sport, maybe four" - well, we cant exactly call ourselves football town cuz of the lions, but at least the broncos were one of the teams they beat last year.
"the tradition of throwing octopi onto the ice, there being no natural habitat for such creatures near Detroit" - back in the day, before you new how to spell nhl, it use to take 8 victories to win the stanley cup. an octopus has 8 tentacles. i think even you can connect the dots on that one.
"having involved themselves in one of the great hockey fights of all time" - sorry, you cant say "involved" if the fight was one way. more like you were the victim of a beat down.
"Red Wing Aaron Downey to take a crack at Laperriere" - if you mean that laperriere had the french beat out of him, then yeah i guess you can say downey took a crack at him.
"the top-seeded Red Wings had more trouble in the first round with the last seed, Nashville, than the Avs did with higher-seeded Minnesota" - are you kidding me? higher seeded minnesota? they were 3 games better than the predators over the course of the year. and btw, didnt 3 games in that series go to ot, out of the 6? i'd hardly say the avs had less of a problem in their first round.
"replaced by the imperfect Chris Osgood" - since perfect would be 0 goals in the 8 or 9 periods he's played, i guess only giving up 1 goal is imperfect. you have a valid point there.
"After the Avs win the thing in six, a new name might be Loserville" - does this closing mean you're going to share your paycheck with your 10 year old daughter that is apparently writing the articles for your great paper?
April 24, 2008
11:37 a.m.
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m2spts writes:
Bernie has moved from the Nuggets to the Avs?
Too bad.
We were kinda hoping we could follow his comments in the Nuggets 4-1 series victory.
Oh, he did pick the Nuggets in five, didn't he?
One thing, sportswriters would be much better if they were held accountable.
The fact Bernie has jumped off the Nuggets bandwagon is just an example of his lack of accountability -- and talent.
Think I'll get back to Mark Heisler.
April 24, 2008
11:50 a.m.
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winger writes:
Like old elephants-
Denver must be where old, inept and obviously blind Journalist must go to die.
"Loserville," Even my 6 year old nephew things that's lame and immature.
the "D" IS hockeytown, but as someone else pointed out; it probably should be followed by "USA".
If any of you have been watching the other series (I'm blessed with CBC coverage), neither the joe, the tank, or the pepsi center hold a candle to the RABID fandom of calgooners or the forum. If you're not impressed with the "sea of red" that was Calgary fans last week, you're blind... or dead!
sorry guys - I just call it the way I see it. spade's a spade.
to that point; Wings fans, If you haven't been to the pepsi center, it's a great venue. thumbs up (this from a season ticket holder of the Joe).
I look forward to the series starting tonight. Going to head down early to hit Cobojoe's - and wipe my feet off on the avs jersey as you walk in!
Should be a really good game.
April 24, 2008
12:14 p.m.
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JP1985 writes:
Just because they were advertising tickets for sale doesn't mean they didn't sell them all. It's not like "sold out" means that the tickets have been unavailable since the beginning of time.
Advertising for tickets pretty obviously means that they're still for sale, and if they're still for sale then people are still buying them. How do you determine whether or not a game is sold out BEFORE the actual game? I can't even follow that distorted logic.
April 24, 2008
12:15 p.m.
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Milarso writes:
They call it Hockeytown because apparently the only hockey fans that read your paper are from Detroit.
Lincicome is delusional. Colorado has no chance in this series.
April 24, 2008
12:24 p.m.
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VVVV writes:
I'm not sure how observing the general dilapidated condition of a city is racist, other than the fact that the city is inherently racist itself. After all, we're not the ones that stick all the Greeks in Greektown, the Mexicans in Mexicantown, and the Pols in Hamtramck. We prefer to be integrated here in Denver.
Anyway, if there is one thing this site has shown, it's that there are a lot more Detroit fans spending their days surfing the internet doing nothing productive. It's no wonder why Detroit is the biggest ghost town in America. Well, that and the history of murder capital plus the near constant government corruption. I think the hockeytown name comes from the fact that "everything but the hockey is screwed beyond belief" town moniker is too long.
April 24, 2008
12:30 p.m.
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wingsfan1 writes:
Haha AvsIn6 is probably some 12 year old kid who is just trying to sound like a big boy. You're probably the second biggest moron on the planet. Second to the writer of this column of course.
Answer me this dude (when mommy let's you back on the computer), without bashing the Wings. How in the hell are you guys good enough to beat us. Don't even mention the Wings in your answer. All you ever seem to do is talk bad about the Wings and nothing good about your team. If you have any class what-so-ever, you'll answer without bashing me, the Wings, their fans, and the city of Detroit. If you don't follow those guidelines, nobody can respect anything you say.
Remember who is the best team in the league while you think about your answer.
To every other Avs fan who bashes Detroit: I will say that Denver and a lot of Colorado is a beautiful part of the country. But are you guys insecure about it or something? Cuz you're always bashing Detroit.
April 24, 2008
12:32 p.m.
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rsdemers writes:
Avsinsux...
YOUR POINTS ARE SO VALID. WE GAVE YOU CHAUNCEY BILLUPS. AS IF SOMEONE BEING BORN IN YOUR TOWN GIVES YOU CREDIT. YOUR ALBINO POCKET PROTECTOR ASS WAS PROBABLY BORN IN DENVER. BUT I WOULDN'T HOLD IT AGAINST THE little d. I WILL TALK ABOUT YOUR MOM BECAUSE SHE WAS A PIG FOR HAVING YOU.
April 24, 2008
12:48 p.m.
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Pistons_Fan writes:
Red Wings will win in 5 Games.
Game one predicitons: Red Wings 4 Av-a-lunch 1.
Go WINGS !!!
April 24, 2008
12:51 p.m.
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CluelessInDenver writes:
WOW, you're a class-act Bernie. It's writers like you that give such a bad name to the media in general. You sound like a bitter, angry hack-writer working at a two-bit 3rd rate newspaper. What's the matter...don't have the knowledge to write about hockey? You're a no-class person with no journalistic ability.
April 24, 2008
12:53 p.m.
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meatwad writes:
wingsfan1,
I'm not the avsin6 you're talking about, but i do prefer the civilized sports banter about the game not resorting to fool hearted claims or namecalling.
As for trying to say why the avs would win would be pure speculations, as goes the same for the wings. But the safe assumption would be to say this is going to be one hell of a series that i look forward to watching. If the avs win or lose i don't expect to be any less entertained.
April 24, 2008
12:57 p.m.
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guylef70 writes:
If people want to get riled up about something they should get riled up about the NHL’s stupid stance on the whole octopus thing. F’in ridiculous.
I don’t care what anyone says, throwing the octopus is cool. It’s not a gimmick. It’s connected to NHL tradition. Getting rid of stuff like that takes all the character out of the game. The NHL tries so hard to be NBA.2 or a video game. Without stuff like the octopus it just gets closer to uniform, boring and vanilla. We all might as well start speaking the Queen’s English and watching cricket. The the one thing the NHL has going for it is it’s history and traditions (maybe that’s two things). The NHL wants to whitewash everything. Speaking of whitewash, where’s Mr. Lincicome to speak up for his turd of a column?
And for everyone just bashing Detroit, what's the deal? I thought this was a hockey thread, not some kind of self-esteem improvement zone. All those illiterate peasants got your panties in a bunch?
April 24, 2008
12:59 p.m.
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CODave writes:
Gene-
I'm a wings fan and live out here. Even the local sports radio (kfan and the former 560am) considered the av's 'sell-out' streak a joke for months. Reportedly several thousand seat were empty every sellout basically since the lockout ended. Everyone knows the attendance figure league wide were a joke.
April 24, 2008
1:09 p.m.
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wingsfan1 writes:
Meatwad. I couldn't agree more. Nobody can predict what will happen. Even though I do think the Wings will win, that is only a speculation. I am also looking forward to a good series. I'm not sure if you're an Avs fan because your comment didn't really say, but if you are, I'm just glad there are civilized fans in Colorado who respect the game and enjoy watching it instead of only people who have only bad things to say about other teams. Those people piss me off.
April 24, 2008
1:15 p.m.
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meatwad writes:
Wore an avs hat everday for the past 5 years, old one got worn out so got a new one. Hope that answers it wingfan1.
As for the game, i've heard someone saying detroit needs to worry about our PP. Did they see any of our recent games? We're horrible on special teams. Theodore needs to be great again and our defense need to not let him face as many shots as he did in the last few games of the wild series. And we need to find a way to crack the wings goalies. I know osgood's getting the start but if he loses some steam it's always great to have another one that can step it up. Hasek aint it? I dont know the other one for sure but i know they're both good. Also, we need to play more like we did against the wild, only take sure hits and play the puck...not the person. We're not a forechecking team, so we have to play on that as heavily as we possibly can.
April 24, 2008
1:19 p.m.
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WitchKing writes:
Amazing, trashing Detroit (and it's been done a million times....and MUCH better than this moron did) while on the day the series starts, the RMN Sports front page is the Rockies closer and the Broncos draft
Nuff Said
April 24, 2008
1:22 p.m.
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WitchKing writes:
cunninlynguist the octopus are long since dead before they hit the ice. And before you get all moral go grab a nice big hambuger from the Pepsi Center concession stand. Sounds like jealousy of a tradition to me. I guess the ONLY tradition The Avs have is retiring the numbers of guys who played there for a year
April 24, 2008
1:26 p.m.
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HockeyHak writes:
Don't worry Red Wing fans - here's a cut and paste from Bernies prediction on the Lakers/Nugget series - and we all know the story there!
Here's what it comes down to. Kobe Bryant will try too hard, get frustrated with his teammates, sulk and whine, while Iverson and Anthony will continue on their usual separate paths, staying out of each other's way, and adding up the score at the end.
And that score will be Nuggets in six.
April 24, 2008
1:29 p.m.
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meatwad writes:
Posted by denversmellslikemya*****e on April 24, 2008 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"I want all you clowns to be on here after Detroit wins, man up and admit you were wrong."
You bet your a** i'll be here pointing out what the avs did wrong in their loss and need to do better in order to get back on track.
I expect the same from you =)
April 24, 2008
1:30 p.m.
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guylef70 writes:
As fo the dog analogy, it depends on what kind of dog you're talking about. I mean is anyone really gonna miss another toy poodle or the like? Me thinks not.
April 24, 2008
1:30 p.m.
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WitchKing writes:
This guy was a whiner in Chicago before they fired him, now he whines at higher altitudes
April 24, 2008
1:30 p.m.
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daverockwood writes:
My city is better than your city! Way to go Lincicome, you've got your countrymen hurling insults at each other because of their zip codes. Nobody making comment here has had a significant impact on your city. Cities are what they are due to the work and ideas of generations, millions of cumulative actions, and geographic location. Its easy to move somewhere perceived as cool and take credit for it or feel you have something to do with it. A lot of college towns come to mind. Denver had the highest rate of urban sprawl per capita population growth of all large US cities in recent years. Detroit has ghettos that are the result of failed urban policies and planning. Assign that baggage to fans of the cities' hockey teams? Foolish. It should be a super series, let's hope the best team wins.
April 24, 2008
1:40 p.m.
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WitchKing writes:
cunninlynguist Oh you have NOT. Tell me, what color is the sky in your world? Lets see PROOF, full on PROOF of your claim or your cred is shot and you should really leave here. PROOF, video PROOF or STFU.
As to your other point, that octopus are smart and cows are dumb so one is OK to kill? Let's kill dogs and leave the cats right? Lets let pigs live and kill whales for food.
You DO have something to be jealous of about Detroit. Detroit has created TWO different kinds of music, MoTown and Electronic music which was INVENTED in Detroit (look it up). You're also jealous of TEN Stanley CUPS. TEN.
See, I build my city UP, I don't try to tear yours DOWN
April 24, 2008
1:41 p.m.
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WitchKing writes:
Oh, one more thing, the octopus (that are ALL DEAD) when they hit the ice aren't trashed, they are thrown in the Detroit River so OTHER fish can live off of them. See, ecologically smart disposal. What else will they think of in HOCKEYTOWN
April 24, 2008
1:53 p.m.
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WitchKing writes:
Saying they are alive is utter stupidity.
#1 Octopus are NOT native to the Detroit area
#2 Octopus are NOT native to North America
#3 Octopus must be FLOWN IN, after HOURS on DRY ICE which would mean the octopus is DEAD
#4 Octopus THEN heads to the fish market, another few hours on DRY ICE
#5 Octopus must be bought (could take a day or two)
#6 Octopus is most likely BOILED before tossing
#7 Octopus rides in plastic bag with no air to Joe Louis Arena
Yes, that octopus was dead LONG ago, and cunninlynguist is simply lying to make her point
April 24, 2008
1:55 p.m.
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WitchKing writes:
No you said they were thrown on the ice LIVE
Your EXACT quote:
"I've seen live octopi on the ice squriming."
No, you haven't little girl, you just got BUSTED in a TERRIBLE LIE.
I'm NOT letting you back out of your own words. PROOF or leave
April 24, 2008
1:55 p.m.
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Theodore_Donald_Kerabatsos writes:
daverockwood:
When you make statements such as "Denver had the highest rate of urban sprawl per capita population growth of all large US cities in recent years." please back them up, as they seem erroneous.
According to this report:
http://www.sprawlcity.org/studyUSA/US...
Denver is 29th whereas Detroit, whose population has stopped increasing, is 18th. Obviously there is no comparison between Denver and the dump that is Detroit. Is the reason there are so many Red Wings' fans at the Pepsi Center because they all realized how awful of a city Detroit is and moved here?
April 24, 2008
1:59 p.m.
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RaiderNation82 writes:
I agree with ja_king37. Detroit is the armpit of the country. Great place to raise a family. Even the crackwhores are leaving in droves because the place is a dump.
April 24, 2008
2:10 p.m.
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WitchKing writes:
Yep, Detroit's a dump. Terrible place. Awful place. It's why the NFL said they had one of, if not their most successful Super Bowls in history a couple years ago, in Detroit.
Aretha Franklin, Stevie Wonder, Madonna, Kid Rock, Eminem, Anita Baker, Bob Seger, Ted Nugent, The White Stripes, Iggy Pop, Sonny Bono (yep), The Supremes, The Four Tops, The Temptations, Commander Cody, Del Shannon, Marshall Crenshaw, The Romantics, Glenn Frey, Chad Smith of the Red Hot Chili Peppers, The Funk Brothers, Smokey Robinson, Ray Parker Jr, Suzi Quatro, Mitch Ryder, Della Reese, and OTHERS, all from our corner of the world.
Did you know that Detroit and Michigan acts make up TEN PERCENT of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
What were you saying Denver?
April 24, 2008
2:12 p.m.
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detroitmetal writes:
Well VVVV let me spell it out to you. Detroit is 89% African American. Denver 5%. While a lot of people leave Detroit, a lot of us are staying trying to rebuild our city and industry. To get criticism from half the country away from the sports section of a newspaper comparing the city to a landfill speaks to me of pure racism. I'll call it out. The people who rip Detroit and Detroiters with glee, especially when they have never been here are deep down bigots.
Licicome is a racist. And so is the Rocky Mountain News for publishing this.
Next time the paper puts an article in its Sports section, it should stick to sports.
April 24, 2008
2:13 p.m.
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WitchKing writes:
cunninlynguist CAUGHT IN A LIE, SO BUSTED
cunninlynguist should really leave here, she has ZERO credibity left in ANYTHING she says
April 24, 2008
2:17 p.m.
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RaiderNation82 writes:
Hey WitchKing how many of those people live there now? zero because the place sucks. How many people came into detroit to watch the superbowl. I best almost all of them came in from out of town. How many people can afford to go the superbowl there. Maybe a few drug dealers? Great Mayor of the city too!
April 24, 2008
2:23 p.m.
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WitchKing writes:
rg2020
Awwwwww, jealousy is one of the seven deadly sins.
Ya know I could have come here and spewed a bunch of crap that would have no place like Columbine and or JonBenet. I don't do things like that so we can discuss real issues. ALL you Av fans seem to be able to do it trash the opposing city. You make NO Mention of ANY of the Red Wings or postive things about your city. It's all negative against a city, that's LAME
April 24, 2008
2:23 p.m.
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Theodore_Donald_Kerabatsos writes:
Yo detroitmetal,
no one's attacking the people of Detroit, so slow down with the race card. There is no doubting that the city itself with the vacant houses, abandoned cars, empty factories, etc. is in decline.
And this is just an observation but if you compare the percentage of African-Americans (or Canadians) in the NHL to the percentage in Detroit or 'Hockey-Town' how come you aren't producing more African-American NHL players (?), which we can all agree would be good for the league and the game.
April 24, 2008
2:26 p.m.
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WitchKing writes:
cunninlynguist on April 24, 2008 at 2:21 p.m.
I know what i've seen, Alive or not it is a waste
AGAIN, busted WORSE than last time. Now you're HALF backtracking.
You said ALIVE, now you're saying alive or not. LIAR!!!!!!
I hereby claim complete and total PWNERSHIP over cunninlynguist
April 24, 2008
2:32 p.m.
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RaiderNation82 writes:
Jealous of Detroit? Thats the funniest thing I have read on this post. Crime, poverty, housing market, economy, job market, those are all things I envy of the city of detroit. I wish things were that great in Denver. Go play with your octopus witchking
April 24, 2008
2:33 p.m.
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DetroitSportsFan writes:
Ahhh... Classic Colorado propaganda, well I guess thats what you do when you can't put decent sports teams in service.
Well, for one, Detroit is Hockeytown, because the Red Wings have been an NHL franchise for over 75 years, have won ten Stanley Cups, and countless presidents trophies / confrence championships. NHL legends, Gordie Howe, Ted Lindsay, Terry Sawchuk, Mickey Redmond, Steve Yzerman. The Colorado Avalanche went from being the Quebec Nordiques, an unsucsesful team that moved to Colorado and got pretty uniforms and a creative name that would sell t-shirts. No legends, no franchise players, a couple measley seasons and that's it.
Denver's a waste of a city that dosen't deserve a franchise. If you want to compare you EXPANSION TEAM to a true glorious organization, then have at it, but when the Wings win in five, then we'll see who is laughing.
Remember: 10 Cups > 2
April 24, 2008
2:36 p.m.
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WitchKing writes:
rg2020-Go play with your octopus witchking
Nah, in a few weeks I'll play with my STANLEY CUP
April 24, 2008
2:41 p.m.
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RaiderNation82 writes:
Great you have the redwings! you must be proud to have team name that is a flap on a femanine napkin. And a place to live that is ranked last in the country as far as people wanting to live there. Great defense! denversmellslikemy and DetroitSportsFan are real intelectual genuises. Detroit Lions, Detroit Tigers great teams as well. Go wash your octopus and change your redwings-you stink!
April 24, 2008
2:43 p.m.
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RaiderNation82 writes:
better than a crack pipe witchking
April 24, 2008
2:56 p.m.
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RaiderNation82 writes:
Hey I agree about the rockies but when your team has been around for 100yrs compared to 15 they should win a few more. I dont know if i would call the tigers a powerhouse with 2 series wins in 90yrs. And more people live in detroit because they cant afford to go anywhere else and crack isn't as easily available. As for the 12yr old i think you are in the wrong chat here. I am an adult who thinks its distgusting for you to be looking for kids to chat with. I think maybe you need to leave
April 24, 2008
2:56 p.m.
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meatwad writes:
Come on now...both sides wings fans and avs fans. I read this forum and comment on it in hopes of expanding my knowledge ABOUT THE GAME! Stop this petty name calling and town bashing and make some friggin points about the teams at hand. I don't want to read a bunch of self righteous people bantering on about who's team is better and what not. Let's get some actual debating going on here.
I know this probably will be drowned by defamatory comments or not even skimmed through by people looking for comments to piss them off and remark against, but it's my opinion and hope i can get at least a couple fans to argue the game at hand instead of knocking eachother.
Now grats hockeytown on your octopusses, seventy five years of tradition, and 10 cups. You can't throw out history because it's not on your side, and i'm not. I'm congratulating them and hoping it will get some responses on what they actually think about the game. I think it will be a goaltenders nightmare, but also up to them to win it.
-GO AVS
April 24, 2008
2:57 p.m.
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Right2Protest writes:
Hey I worked for Ford and just lost my job to those Japs!! The Wings are all I have lest and they are going to swip the little Avs. You SUCK
April 24, 2008
3:18 p.m.
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DirkDiggler writes:
Well meatwad, I'm pretty sure our desire to actually discuss hockey isn't going to happen with this bunch. Both sides are an embarrassment. The one bright spot about this thread is that it appears RMN made short work of AvsIn6 and his assinine blatherings, just like the Post did to him under a different name.
What a shame that a discussion about the greatest time of year (playoff hockey) has to be turned into a forum for town and citizen bashing. Wow! And that takes SO much intelligence to do....NOT!!
This board jumped the shark almost immediately and I can't believe I followed it as long as I have. Guess it's kind of like watching a trainwreck, can't turn away. But what an ugly mess it turned out to be!!
April 24, 2008
3:28 p.m.
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robertallen writes:
Well, I don't want to partake in the Denver sucks/Detroit sucks thing that's going on here. As a Detroit native/fan, I could've done without the childlike bashing of Detroit in the article. Sticking to pure sports reasons for his opinion of the Avalanche taking the series in 6 would've been enough to get his point across with respectability. BUT he did a good job if he wanted controversy, as he caught Detroit's attention.
Detroit is a great sports town, and Denver is definitely a great sports town as well. My goodness: John Elway, Allen Iverson, Carmello Anthony, Patrick Roy, Champ Bailey, Joe Sakic, Rod Smith, you could just keep going on and on about great talent in Denver...
I have to agree with meatwad, we should all step off the playground and talk about the series like mature adults.
It's going to be a great series regardless of the outcome...and it's going to bring back a lot of great memories of an incredible rivalry (possibly one of the greatest rivalries that ever took place in all of sports). The NHL was hoping for this matchup, and they got it.
April 24, 2008
3:46 p.m.
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daverockwood writes:
Theodore_Donald_Kerabatsos:
Your study is outdated: 2001. Are you denying Denver isn't beset with urban sprawl like most fast-growing cities in the US or does it just bother you that there may be a smudge on the shiny image that is the propoganda of mountain-fresh Denver? My city is better than your city! I'm glad you love your city, but its just immature and ignorant to insult other people's home cities. Denver? I'd much rather live in Durango, Crested Butte, Fort Collins, Salt Lake, Missoula, Spokane, Sandpoint, Vancouver, or Portland (now there's a city to brag about!). There are a bunch of cities in Minnesota, Wisconsin, or Michigan I would take over Denver. I lived in Washington state for years but still love my North Coast homeland up on Lake Superior. Wings fans aren't just Detroiters, I grew up 400 miles from the city but in the same state. Denver is just not such a great city that its natives can justify such a superior attitude. You think DEnver is some Shangli-la? Heck, any of the large Canadian cities are more livable.
April 24, 2008
4:09 p.m.
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meatwad writes:
You think this series will be as heated and "good" as it was in the past? Biting my lip I'm going to say yea. Both teams have scoring weapons, goaltenders, and defense. You can put two different jerseys on the teams and it'll still be a great, close game(s). Ever since the lockout attendance has been struggling, if this rivalry delivers than it may fix that problem. I saw a post saying hockey needs this rivalry. I agree, something mean to get the fans attention back.
April 24, 2008
4:15 p.m.
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WalterSobchak writes:
Rockwood:
Are you averse to sunlight? The listed cities you're creaming your pants over (aside from SLC and Missoula) get less sunshine all year than Denver gets in 6 months. Portland a city to brag about? If you like a high homeless population, a tiny sports market, heroin, clouds, rain and holding the spotted owl in higher regard than a human being, then yes, Portland is something to brag about. Both of my parents grew up near relatively large cities in the Midwest . . . Believe me, they don't miss it and the quality of life isn't comparable. Don't even get me started on Canada.
April 24, 2008
4:35 p.m.
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blm69 writes:
Just watched the ESPN highlights of the Avs/Wings rivalry. The Lemieux hit on Draper really was the defining moment. Wish it would have been on either McCarty or Maltby. Looking forward to a great series. Hopefully there's at least one avs blowout so we can see a good brawl.
April 24, 2008
4:42 p.m.
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Right2Protest writes:
What do you have against Canada? They atleast take care of there people... unlike the great USA!!! What midwest town did your parents crawl out of??? Stay in the Mountains Hippy!
April 24, 2008
4:58 p.m.
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meatwad writes:
For the times, Rome blows all current cities, including Denver and Detroit out of the water...Pointless argument OVER! Now let's talk some sports!
April 24, 2008
5:02 p.m.
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WalterSobchak writes:
What do I have against Canada? Take care of their people? I don't feel like waiting 14 months to get a knee replacement or paying for the elderly to visit their primary care physician because they're lonely and it doesn't cost them anything. Canada is what it is, but there's no denying that they're dependent on the United States for a reason.
My parents grew up just outside Minneapolis, which I'm assuming is one of the "bunch of cities in Minnesota, Wisconsin or Michigan" that Rockwood was referring to.
I'm happy to stay in the mountains if you'll promise to stick to your abandoned skyscraper with your criminal mayor, his bimbo and the gaggle of United Auto Workers union bosses that ran your city into the ground along with the American auto industry. If you can't stay warm, just stand by a flaming vehicle on Devil's Night.
April 24, 2008
5:22 p.m.
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DetroitSportsFan writes:
Detroiters:
Don't worry about all these garbage posts (and garbage people), when you live in such a worthless city, this is all you have, an online argument with people you will never meet. We're superior in sports, and even though we're on a sports message board, they have to bring up our city's quality because they can't back up their team with logical reasons. The Wings are faster, younger, stronger, more finess, and just better all around. I'm not making any predictions, but don't expect Grandpa Sakic to carry the team on his shoulders, we will see what happens in ten minutes.
April 24, 2008
6:24 p.m.
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WitchKing writes:
Anybody there watch that first period?
Any questions?
Bernie? Bernie?
April 24, 2008
6:27 p.m.
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WitchKing writes:
WalterSobchak--
Where did you learn your "facts" about Canada? Did you know in the only war between the US and Canada that Canada won?
Nevermind hilljack
April 24, 2008
9:48 p.m.
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wings906 writes:
I can't wait to see tomorrow's paper and see if Lincicome has gotten over his obvious disappointment at not being hired by the Free Press or Detroit News...
April 24, 2008
10:09 p.m.
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RdWng00 writes:
Do you know what's fun? Going to Wing/Avs games in Dec. and Feb. and seeing every section of the Pepsi Center filled with dozens of Red Wings' jerseys and hearing a loud chant of "Let's go Red Wings."
Oh yeah, driving home and listening to the Avs announcers on the post game shows wonder how all the Wings fans got tickets was pretty cool also.
What ever happened to the Denver hockey team that folded in the 70s? Must have been the fine fan base at the time.
April 24, 2008
10:38 p.m.
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hockeytownnss writes:
Mr. Bernie Lincicome,
You call yourself a sports writter...a supporter of the Av's?
I will begin with your comment.
"Odder still than pride in being the so-called headquarters for the fifth major sport — maybe four, now that stock-car racing is slipping".
A true hockey fan is behind their sport and supports it, not putting it down as you have. What I get from your comment is that hockey is only # 4 due to the slipping of stock-car racing. Great show of support for your Av's and the sport.
As a supporter of the sport of hockey, I must say this sport in my opinion compares to no other. To me, nothing compares to hockey, it is the fastest, most exciting game on earth and I will support the sport itself regardless of it's "fame".
Next would be your comments on the octopi.. it is not a bizarre world as you write. It is based on tradition... do a little research... make an informed opinion...
The eight legs of the octopi stand for the original eight games it took to win the Stanley Cup... the octopi honors the tradition of hockey.
Hockey is in my opinion a true gentlemens sport, it is the only professional sport that recognizes the opponents ability... the players line up after a tough battle and congradulate each other... the players are true professionals and rarely will you hear the negative comments that run so free from your penmanship.
I have yet to read or hear such comments from players who were a part of one of the most memorable rivalries in the sport. What I have read is memories that bring smiles to thier faces and respect for each other.
I will refrain from making negative comments about your Av's. I will say I am proud to be a hockey fan. Even prouder to be a fan of the Wings... a team and town who understands and believes in the sport, as well as it's tradition.
April 25, 2008
2:29 a.m.
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dday2122 writes:
I was going to post a comment about the fact that I'm originally from the Detroit area but lived in Denver for several years, so I can appreciate both cities as great sports towns with passionate fans. I was going to show respect and appreciation for how fiercely loyal both towns are to their teams (Detroit to their Tigers, Red Wings, Pistons and Lions; Denver to their Broncos and Avs). I was going to write about the fact that although Denver has great pride and loyalty, that they simply do not have the history and tradition of Detroit teams because Denver teams just haven't been around as long... even if you count Quebec Nordiques history for the Avs. (Remember, Joe Sakic is an adopted son and Steve Yzerman was wearing "19" and the "C" long before Joe stepped onto NHL ice.) I was going to comment that although you can endlessly argue what city should lay claim to the title of Hockeytown, that Detroit most certainly deserves to be a major player in the conversation.
Avs fans, I hope this continues to be an exciting series. I respect you, even though my distaste for your team dates back to the sickening cheap-shot by Claude Lemieux which started this rivalry over a decade ago.
As for you, Bernie... I have only one thing to say after Game 1:
Hockeytown 1, Bernie 0
April 25, 2008
2:47 a.m.
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Big_D_in_LV writes:
I hope this series in as heated as the posts on this article. Lets all grow up and keep the comments to what happens on the ice.
As far as the game, Avs you were so close yet soooooo far away. Detroit get out your brooms...I'm smellin a sweep.
April 25, 2008
4:16 a.m.
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ADKWingsFan writes:
I think it's important to remember that Colorado is still relatively new to the hockey scene - and as such the Avs' franchise (and apparently the sportswriters that cover them) still has some growing up to do.
As for Bernie, well, it's unfortunate that someone who displays such a lack of respect for the game of hockey has the privilege of covering it. While it seems that he has come to the realization that if it were not for the Avs' rivalry with the Wings there wouldn't be much left to write about, it's a pity that Bernie can't find a way to discuss it without showing his immaturity. But luckily, as he put it, "there are enough players left from those days to keep an edge on things. Joe Sakic, Adam Foote and Peter Forsberg remain for the Avalanche", to keep his fingers stroking the keyboard for at least another week.
Mr. Lincicome did get something right though. The Detroit-Nashville series was all about goaltending. The series would not have made it to six games if it weren't for Ellis' brilliant play. But maybe that's a comment he wouldn't understand - an honest and mature comment that shows respect for a player on another team.
April 25, 2008
7 a.m.
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redwingfaninnyc writes:
Both cities -DENVER AND DETROIT- suck. You couldn't pay me to live in either one. That being said, the Avs will lose and their moronic sports writers and fans will continue believing that their terribly boring city is somehow better than Detroit.
April 25, 2008
7:56 a.m.
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SEB writes:
"Posted by VVVV on April 24, 2008 at 12:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm not sure how observing the general dilapidated condition of a city is racist, other than the fact that the city is inherently racist itself. After all, we're not the ones that stick all the Greeks in Greektown, the Mexicans in Mexicantown, and the Pols in Hamtramck. We prefer to be integrated here in Denver."
Uh, I'm going to put the fact that your comment has nothing to do with hockey, the Wings, the Avs... besides that point, your comment is utterly ridiculous. Have you ever been to Chicago? I'm a Detroit native living in Chicago... Chicago has Greektown, (as well as Chinatown, Koreantown...) its not where all the Greeks live, you moron. Just like Detroit. Its an area where there's many Greek restaurants. Same with Mexicantown. And while the population of Hamtramck is largely Polish, there's also a lot of Albanians, Ukrainians and local college kids who live there. Also, Hamtramck is its own city with its own mayor - its not part of Detroit. Idiot.
That being said, I'm not going to tear on either city. Detroit, like any other major city has its good areas and bad.
Have been looking forward to this series - game on! (and go Wings!)
April 25, 2008
8:50 a.m.
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WalterSobchak writes:
"Where did you learn your "facts" about Canada? Did you know in the only war between the US and Canada that Canada won?"
Are you saying that the Canadian healthcare system doesn't have a problem performing "elective" surgeries in a timely manner? Are you denying the fact that Canada is absolutely and indefinitely dependent on its trade relationship with the United States? Are you implying that US is no match for Canada, militarily?
I wish Windsor would annex Detroit. It would move a lot of people out of the US welfare system and encourage great Americans like Eminem and Kwame Kilpatrick to expatriate.
April 25, 2008
9:11 a.m.
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wingsfan1 writes:
"Loserville" 1 Bernie Lincicome 0
GO WINGS!!!
April 25, 2008
10:17 a.m.
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redwingfaninnyc writes:
When WalterSobchak speaks, I don't hear anything sensible, in fact I don't hear anything at all. However, I do feel lots of hot air.
April 25, 2008
11:38 a.m.
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dwill008 writes:
I understand Mr. Lincicome's job is to be the homeboy for the Avs, and he makes his readers happy by being his team's athletic supporter.
Like it or not, the octopus is a Detroit tradition dating back to the the 1952 Stanley Cup playoffs. After sweeping Toronto in four games, the Wings held a 2-games-to-0 lead over Montreal. Two brothers, owners of a seafood store, chose the eight-legged octopus as a symbol for an eight-game playoffs sweep, which the Red Wings did.
As for Hockeytown, its a nickname the team's PR people came up with. And why not, since you can count Colorado's Stanley Cups on one hand, and the Red Wings still have more than you do in the last 12 years.
Mr. Lincocome, your remarks are inaccurate, cheap and tawdry. Is this just you, your and your paper or all of the Avalanche-nation combined?
You did leave out one word in describing the Red Wings and Detroit; Class. Maybe the thin air up there has gotten to you.
Wings in six.
April 25, 2008
11:52 a.m.
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Hockeytown2AZ writes:
It's funny isn't it? It was so loud here yesterday! Great game yesterday...LET's GO REDWINGS!!!!
April 26, 2008
12:27 p.m.
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rodney writes:
THE NUGGETS WILL BE SWEPT BY THE LAKERS - THE AVS ARE ALREADY MAKING EXCUSES AND WILL BE SWEPT BY THE WINGS AND I HOPE THE RMN SWEEPS BERNIE OUT THE DOOR ALSO. WHAT A PUTTS
April 26, 2008
2:29 p.m.
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avsrgay writes:
Lincocome...still think avs in 6. Your a Hack
April 26, 2008
11:28 p.m.
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octopus writes:
Write another hilarious, dismissive column, Bernie!
If not for Sunday's paper, get it in Monday's. We all want to hear your response to the first two games.
April 27, 2008
12:45 a.m.
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wingsfan1 writes:
UH OH BERNIE!
"Loserville" 2 Moron Writer 0
Where ya been AvsIn6??
April 27, 2008
2:26 a.m.
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wings9130 writes:
Favorite Wings Avs moment when Draper got his face hit into the boards? Sure it started the rivalry but that is the most CLASSLESS thing i have ever heard. Draper had hi