Teacher in Brighton sex case jailed for violating probation

By David Montero, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)

Published April 1, 2008 at 6:30 a.m.
Updated April 2, 2008 at 7:04 a.m.

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Carrie McCandless was discovered having sex with a parolee.

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April 1, 2008

6:53 a.m.

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HolierThanThou writes:

When I graduated High School, I married my 32-year old teacher. She had a 10-year old daughter at the time. Eight years later, my father fell in love with my step-daughter and they got married. Nine months later they had a baby boy. He was my new brother but he was also my grandson, so I became my own grandpa.
April 1, 2008

8:36 a.m.

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pwern writes:

Not sure what the crime is here. Most 17-year boys would be ecstatic about the thought of hooking up with her. Two questions come to mind:

#1) How many dozens of years would the jail sentence have been if it had been a male teacher going after a 17-year old GIRL?

#2) How does this square with the fact that DPS hands out condoms to students? The message: "Only have underage sex if it's with someone else who's also underage." Way to encourage more irresponsible behavior, guys.
April 1, 2008

9:09 a.m.

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BroncoDan writes:

just wondering...what was the probation violation???
April 1, 2008

9:23 a.m.

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Fireball writes:

I would like to be her attorney; I wonder how he is being paid?
April 1, 2008

9:26 a.m.

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whograbdmyass writes:

That's one sex offender I want living in my neighborhood. I'll even supply her with the booze. Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
April 1, 2008

9:28 a.m.

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wow writes:

That pooor, pooor traumatized kid. My heart goes out to his envious dad. I'd love to be a fly on the wall at his house. Set Carrie free!!
April 1, 2008

9:48 a.m.

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GroovyD writes:

I have one question .... Where were these teachers when I was in high school?
April 1, 2008

9:49 a.m.

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wow writes:

GWM--- = Great White Male.
I believe, in all seriousness, that if my kid were having a "relationship" with this particular teacher, the trauma would be in me telling him he couldn't have her. He'd hang on to her ankles weeping as she was dragged off to jail. Just my couple cents worth.
April 1, 2008

10:16 a.m.

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wow writes:

GWM
You hit the nail on the head. I have a son and a daughter, and the truth is, they are treated differently, because they ARE different. My boy would be on cloud nine if he had a hottie like this teacher interrested in him, and while I disapprove, I would be hard pressed to explain why he would have to reject her "for his own good", as it were. He'd see through that in a heart beat.
But my girl child?? Oh, he77 no. I would see her as a vitim of a predator. Girls are different than boys at 17 when it come to how they view power, sex and love. Men in positions of power are different than women too, especially when it comes to kids.
Justice cannot be met out in an identical way. I for one think it should be related directly to the level of "trauma" inflicted on the "victim".
April 1, 2008

10:23 a.m.

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Classof80 writes:

I NEVER ever had a teacher look like that.. I probably would of studied more !!
April 1, 2008

10:26 a.m.

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geriatric1943 writes:

But would you feel the same way if your son had a gay affair with a 32 year old male teacher?

And what about the 13 year old that was having her friends prostitute themselves at a club in Texas? The guys get busted because the girls looked 18 or older and were in a club where the legal age was 18 and over but the girls are called victims.

Give me a break.

If you give your sons as much leeway as stated in 'boys will be boys', what are you going to do when they get arrested for having sex with a girl that is younger than them and they get caught?
April 1, 2008

10:42 a.m.

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wow writes:

If my son had a gay affair with a 32 year ols male teacher, the feeling would be the same more or less, as if my son were a daughter. Again, men (gay or straight), are different than women in positions of power, especially when it comes to kids. At the age of 17, my son shares the same ammount of cupability for an affair as a daughter would, but he is bigger, stronger, and emotionally equipped differently than she is. In other words, its harder to "victimize" a 17 year old boy, therefore the scrutiny I would place on the adult involved would be different.
As for the 13 year olds, that's not close to the same thing. 13 is a world away from 18 developmentally. Those are "little girls", and are victims of thier own stupidity as well as victims of all the adults who did not protect them.
As for the idea that my son might not be able to tell the difference between himself at 17 and a girl at 17 when he is 34--I do hope that any birth defects that may have rendered him that stupid would have been caught before now. I don't think there's much chance of that type of thing happening.
Comparing boys to girls is much like comparing apples to oranges.
April 1, 2008

10:53 a.m.

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wow writes:

Twelve year old girls are more like lemons, really...But I digress.
April 1, 2008

10:59 a.m.

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bone writes:

i went to my 8th grader's math class one day last year to observe..the boys in the class were a little distracted, and the girls were being ignored..grades were dropping and i was the parent in our posse with daytime to spare..holy "expletive here"..the teacher was 2? and made Carrie McCandless look like 3rd hand trailer park trash...she was beyond smokin...the problem was obvious, the boys were all sportin wood and the girls were being ignored as the teacher was busy flirting with the boys....we had her reassigned and everybody's grades went back to norm..imagine what kind of disraction she'd be in a 12th grade class ?.....we need gender specific classes and uniforms for students "and" teachers....jail jumpsuits
April 1, 2008

10:59 a.m.

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BroncoDan writes:

the Coloradoan reports...the "violation" was that she was found in bed with another parolee (not a minor). He77 she's just horny! (not a crime) I'm amazed she's still married, though!
April 1, 2008

11:08 a.m.

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wow writes:

LOL, Bronco, would you divorce her for being a nympho? I mean, really, how bad could it be?
Bawahaha!
April 1, 2008

11:11 a.m.

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wow writes:

bone--
A simple solution at last. I'm all for it.
April 1, 2008

11:11 a.m.

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AC writes:

"Posted by Classof80 on April 1, 2008 at 10:23 a.m.

"I NEVER ever had a teacher look like that.. I probably would of studied more !!"

Particularly in English class, I'm guessing.
April 1, 2008

11:14 a.m.

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AC writes:

The parole violation is right in the first sentence of the story... having sex with another parolee and drinking.
April 1, 2008

11:16 a.m.

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wow writes:

GWM--I figured it out!!!
Holierthanthou is his father's father in law, and therefore he could reasonably claim to be his own grandpa, by marriage!!
I think...
April 1, 2008

11:53 a.m.

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Logic1 writes:

Wow, even the female students wanted a crack at her.
April 1, 2008

12:14 p.m.

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wow writes:

LOL, that's so wrong...
April 1, 2008

12:34 p.m.

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wow writes:

But Earl, where will you put the other women you have chained in your basement? Ooops, wasn't supposed to tell about that... ;)
April 1, 2008

12:51 p.m.

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Squatch writes:

She isnt allowed to have sex with another adult? that is a joke let keep making her a criminal.
April 1, 2008

1:05 p.m.

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Scott writes:

Squatch,

It isn't that she can't have sex with another adult, it's that she was associating with another felon. Typical parole rules are that a parolee cannot associate with any felon that is on parole or in the slammer.

Scott
April 1, 2008

1:10 p.m.

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Scott writes:

GIVE ME AN EDIT BUTTON!!!

Oops. Looks like my last post, while correct in general, is wrong in this hotties case. From the article, "The sex was a violation of her probation terms because it was not reported to or approved by McCandless' treatment team". This is total B.S! Some psycho-babblist can tell and adult who and when they can have sex with another consenting adult!? TOTAL B.S.

Scott
April 1, 2008

1:14 p.m.

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wow writes:

Too bad Zogger...looks like you'd have to pass muster with her "treatment team".
They'd never in a zillion years approve a gay leprechaun.
April 1, 2008

1:35 p.m.

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wow writes:

Would the court appointed treatment team accept a bribe of gold?
Does the pope wear a funny hat? I'm guessing yes, if you have the gold...you could be in Valhalla shortly.
Shortly...Bawahaha...I don't even try.

And GWM...I don't have any lesbian tendancies...but for Carrie here, you might be right ;). Is that wrong?
April 1, 2008

1:49 p.m.

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wow writes:

Breakdown of holierthanthou's family tree for April Fools who may find it enlightening-
When Holi married his teacher, he got a step daughter.
Step daughter married Holi's dad, making Holi his own father's step father in law, and his own step grandpa.
Holi's step daughter/step mother and father/son in law have a baby, making Holi an older brother/step grandpa to the child, in addition to being his own step-grandpa.
Sounds so much like a few parts of my family, it frightens me.
It's not a family tree...it's ground ivy. Wait till the cousins show up.
April 1, 2008

1:52 p.m.

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wow writes:

I'd stay happily married, have no fear...My husband would worship me as a goddess if I brought Carrie home for a visit ;). The video would probably end up on the internet though....
As would any of you and Tom Cruise.
April 1, 2008

2:09 p.m.

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MGD writes:

Sorry but you dirty old men (and woman) are probably too old for Carrie. Plus, it might help to have a criminal record.

Now as for her husband, I wonder what sorts of things she brings home from all of these encounters... I hope he has a low co-pay for anti-biotics.

Looks good on the outside but probably rotten on the inside.
April 1, 2008

2:42 p.m.

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wow writes:

If she sticks to 17 year old virgins, she's probably clean, as far as that goes. I say we blame the justice system if she brings something nasty home.
*Gush Warning*
And OMG, you don't even want to get me goin on Jason Statham...Too much for my heart. Put it this way...I'd let him have my hubby if he wanted. For free.
What wouldn't I do for that man...I mean did you see Crank...OMG.
*Gush ended*
April 1, 2008

2:56 p.m.

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Squatch writes:

It shouldnt suprise people that she was associating with another felon if they are the ones she spends most of her time with. Im sure she spends every other night in some type group with other felons talking about her problems.

The news posted the story late last year she violated her probation by talking to a girl she works with.
April 1, 2008

3:22 p.m.

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Scott writes:

MGD,

RE: "... you dirty old men ...". In my case you are correct, but I can dream, can't I! :-)

Scott
April 1, 2008

4:29 p.m.

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sweetchuckd writes:

Read more teacher sex scandals and all other crazy news in public education daily at http://detentionslip.org.
April 1, 2008

6:03 p.m.

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ilip88 writes:

I guess they would prefer her to be out molesting another child then having sex with an adult. And
can you imagine her having to ask permission of the people doing her therapy if she can have sex
with someone? This is just plain stupid.
April 1, 2008

8:20 p.m.

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SteveC writes:

I'd do her!!
April 2, 2008

7:40 a.m.

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DahmersCookbook writes:

She will need the help of Playboy to pay her legal bills.
April 2, 2008

9:12 a.m.

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wow writes:

Zogger....where are you man??
Bummer.
Anyway, GWM, I'd settle for a life size poster of Jason for the bday, May 26. Even an action figure. Mmmmmm.
But why did zogger get zapped? He was behaving relatively well yesterday. Ah, well, the "zionist plot" (zog's words) thickens, and yet another zogg incarnation will appear. (I bet we can get him in trouble without him even being here at this point!!)
Bawahahaha!
April 2, 2008

9:44 a.m.

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wow writes:

Oh dear god.....
Hi craker.
April 2, 2008

9:55 a.m.

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GWBushwacked writes:

Yes, double standard. The law should treat sex offenders of both sexes the same, yet it does not happen. When I lived in Massachusetts, there was a case where a young woman and another man held down a woman while her boyfriend raped her. She got probation, the guy who held the other leg got 5 years.
April 2, 2008

10:14 a.m.

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wow writes:

GWB--
That is a travesty!! And it illustrates my point that the sentence should fit the crime...Trauma level of the victim is an important factor.
The young man in this teacher's case was not "raped" or in my opinion "assaulted", or even "sexually abused". Had he been 1 year older, there wouldn't have been a problem. He's more likely now got some emotional abuse issues from having been dragged through all this legal mess.
April 2, 2008

11:24 a.m.

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Scott writes:

To add to the hypocrisies that a really hot 30 year old chick "raped" a 17 year old man, but 18 is O.K.: Remember that a 17 year old man can join the military, remember that a 17 year old man in Colorado can get married. True, the 17 year old man needs his parents permission for the two afore mentioned activities, but he can still do it!

So much for the "tramatization" of this 17 year old man. I agree, he's probably still grinning from his "rape."

Scott
April 2, 2008

11:28 a.m.

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wow writes:

Scott is grinning just thinking about it ;)
April 2, 2008

11:40 a.m.

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Scott writes:

wow, not "just" grinning ;-) However, to do her I'd wear a body condom. Lord knows what might be swimming around in there!

Scott
April 2, 2008

12:03 p.m.

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wow writes:

eeewwww! Nice mental picture.
Bawahahaha!
April 2, 2008

2:53 p.m.

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BTP writes:

One would think if Carrie McCandless was given strict orders about what she can and cannot do, with the risk of being put back in jail if she breaks the conditions, that she would try and keep her clothes on especially if her new guy is also a felon on parole. This woman is beyond belief!
April 2, 2008

3:32 p.m.

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PJM writes:

Good old Colorado. This cute little thing gets locked up for what should be considered a public service. Good thing she didn't shoot a prairie dog, own a pitbull, smoke a cigarette, or drive on I70. They'd probly give her the chair!
April 2, 2008

3:37 p.m.

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LPG writes:

She has a treatment team because she is most likely a sex addict. Now, before you guys go crazy about the fabulous nature of that kind of addiction, you should realize that addiction is "a repeated behavior with known negative consequences." My ex-husband was a sex addict but WEIRDLY enough, didn't like sex. He just liked to jerk off to porn and avoid an intimate relationship. Thoroughly screwed up individual... but it's a REAL disorder and more people than you know have it. A related issue is sexual aversion, which is common with women who have been abused. They "win" their prospective husbands and then won't put out any more. Takes LOTS of counseling and patience. One counselor told me that it might take many years of counseling and that my ex might not ever really change. I bailed after realizing what a psycho-nightmare I had been duped into. whew.
April 2, 2008

3:38 p.m.

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Heidi writes:

dang, I'm missing all the fun!!!
April 2, 2008

3:58 p.m.

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wow writes:

LPG-
I had a friend who had the same kind of guy, and thier therapist made a big deal about the whole wacking it to porn thing. Made the guy sound like a total nut job.
Turned out he just likes porn. Weird, sick man huh. Not that it explains your situation at all, but I feel many "sex addicts" are tagged improperly by shrinks with an agenda.
See, the deal was, my friend weighed in at about 275, was a total harpie, and felt insecure because her hubby preferred to look at naked porn stars. The shrink took several thousand dollars and many months of thier lives to emasculate a perfectly normal, if lonely, man, and pardoned my friend's food addiction (eating disorder) in the process.
Is Carrie a sex addict, or a lonely woman with a judgement/libido problem?
April 2, 2008

4:12 p.m.

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wow writes:

GWM--
Left you a present on the other thread.
Hope you like it :)
April 2, 2008

4:17 p.m.

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Scott writes:

crakerh8inegro, don't be a jerk! You have no idea as to what LPG went through (nor do I) and to suggest that she is the problem is being a jerk. LPG is trying to let the rest of us know what can go on with sex addicts and what might possibly be the issue with McCandless.

Scott
April 2, 2008

4:22 p.m.

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Scott writes:

wow,

The wife and I together and individually went to a couple of psycho-babblist many years ago. Jeezes! What a bunch of losers that profession attracts. Yes, there are good mental health types, but it is a real hit-n-miss mess to try and find the competent ones.

Scott
April 2, 2008

4:53 p.m.

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wow writes:

Scott,
The search for good help is alone enough to push one over the edge.
My hubby was branded a sex addict, by his ex, and the court shrink didn't care one way or another. She was getting paid. He's not by the way. Or maybe it's just ok with me....Maybe I need a good shrink.
April 2, 2008

5:33 p.m.

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Scott writes:

GWM, I understand. America, where a poor black boy can grow up to be a beautiful white woman, i.e. Michael Jackson ;-) NOTE SMILIE.

wow, Regarding your comment about " Or maybe it's just ok with me ... Maybe I need a good shrink", your point? So what if you and your hubby like to knock each others socks off four times a day an 5 on weekends? Two consenting adults ya know ... and a shot bed :-) The wife and I are headed up to Estes Park later this month to celebrate our 26th anniversary at the same place where we spent our honeymoon. The lodge is already applying multiple preventative coats of ScotchGuard(tm) to EVERYTHING. ;-)

Scott
April 2, 2008

6:48 p.m.

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wow writes:

EEEWWW!! There we go with the visuals again...Thanks Scott.
April 2, 2008

8:21 p.m.

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LPG writes:

Yes, it's true that the term sex addict is thrown around a lot. I hadn't heard of it until I got online doing research to figure out why my husband would push me away when I'd initiate sex. Since I had my choice of many men while dating, have a healthy appetite (daily is fine with me) for sex, and have a nice bod and don't nag, I KNEW it wasn't me with the problem. So, again, many people have very distorted views of sex and relationships. My ex saw sex associated with his philandering father, who didn't interact with his mom. So, sex was not included in the marriage...and that's what he sprung on me (or deprived me of, more accurately) after we got married. Back to the subject at hand, this gal obviously has an addiction and there are reasons she's repeating this destructive behavior. I'm quite sure her husband would love for his beautiful wife to be "normal" but there's not a damned thing he can do about it. Shame.
April 3, 2008

8:27 a.m.

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HollyGoLightly writes:

Cheese and rice! The men of RMN are out in full force on this article. You guys are so bad.
April 4, 2008

9:53 a.m.

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Darling writes:

um, "unauthorized sex"...

Does anyone else find that crazy? She's 32, and as long as she was with another consenting adult, who cares? The article said nothing about her having sex with a felon, just that the sex was "not reported to or approved by McCandless' treatment team".

Maybe she didn't have her daytimer with her to schedule the sexual encounter, so she didn't remember to let her treatment team know about it...

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Teacher in Brighton sex case jailed for violating probation

By David Montero, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)

Published April 1, 2008 at 6:30 a.m.Updated April 2, 2008 at 7:04 a.m.

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