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Couples in Boulder land grab disagree over pretrial offers

By Berny Morson, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)

Published December 20, 2007 at 11:11 a.m.
Updated December 20, 2007 at 4:31 p.m.

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Parties in a contentious suit over title to part of a valuable Boulder lot disagreed today on what offers they made to each other before the case went to trial.

A Boulder judge in October awarded about one third of a lot belonging to Don and Susie Kirlin to their neighbors, former Boulder Mayor Richard McLean and his wife, Edith Stevens.

The award was made under a legal principle called adverse possession, which allows a person who has been using land for at least 18 years to claim it from the owner.

McLean and Stevens had been crossing the Kirlin's empty lot for 25 years to get to their back yard, the judge found.

Don Kirlin said today that before the trial, he had offered to give McLean and Stevens for free an easement that would allow them to continue crossing his land to get to their back yard. The easement would cover a strip 80 feet long — the length of the lot — by 5 feet wide, Kirlin said.

Kirlin said McLean and Stevens wanted a piece that was 80 feet long by up to 14 feet wide at one spot.

Kim Hult, a lawyer for McLean and Stevens, said Kirlin's recollection of the offers on an easement is not correct, but declined to comment further.

Hult and Kirlin said that during a mediation process before the trial, they discussed the sale of part of the disputed lot to McLean and Stevens. The price would have been a prorated share of the appraised value of the entire lot.

Assuming the lot is worth $1 million, that would be in the range of $300,000.

The property enjoys spectacular views of the Boulder greenbelt and the Flatirons.

Kirlin said the families are still negotiating a settlement. Hult would not confirm negotiations.

Meanwhile, the Kirlins are also appealing the October ruling.

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  • December 20, 2007

    12:03 p.m.

    jacka writes:

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  • December 20, 2007

    1:13 p.m.

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    CDee writes:

    If it's a million dollar lot and the Kirlin's will not be able to build on that part of it that sounds about right to me. They should be compensated for having to let them use part of their property when they didn't choose to.

  • December 20, 2007

    2:22 p.m.

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    horsinaround writes:

    The judge in the case absolutely should be removed. I do hope the voters in Boulder County will step up when it's time for his re-election and unanimously vote him out of office. As for McClean and Stevens, they are plain and simple crooks who had the advantage from their careers of knowing the legal system and obviously used that knowlege to steal what didn't belong to them. I would hope they would be shunned by all of Boulder, including the legal community there and in Colorado.

  • December 20, 2007

    2:36 p.m.

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    stuckiniowa writes:

    I didnt think that anybody in Boulder owned anything. What with the socialist state and all.

  • December 20, 2007

    2:57 p.m.

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    bookwerm writes:

    I surely will vote to remove Judge James C. "Idiot Head" Klein, and hope he is disbarred, censured and jailed sooner. The Kirlins never quoted 300K,.. but if the removal of that land prevents a buildable lot in that neighborhood from BEING buildable, and $300K is VERY fair price for a lot there, then yes, it is worth $300K to give up the right to build, if not more. Kind of like a car is not worth much without a key.. that land is not worth much when it lost that 1/3rd. Those greedy sick bastards, they are going to hell for sure. Everyone shun them,.. don't sell them food, gas, or air (I wish!).

  • December 20, 2007

    3:26 p.m.

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    Diff writes:

    I will look for that Non-profit and hope to be one of the first contributers!
    How do the Mclanes/Stevens look at them self's in the mirror every morning? How can they face their Friends (if they have any) or family.
    Wonder if anyone took up the suggestion to print and mail these and the comments from the other day to the McL/S house hold? Just to show them what the community thinks about them.
    Of course does any of this mean anything to them? They must be sad, pathetic people and are so self absorbed and selfish that they have no care what anyone would think of them. They obviously have no self respect at all!
    Oh yeah they lawyers after all I guess we maybe expect too much of them.
    I wonder if the Kirlins are allowed to have any large animals on the property - if so, I'd suggest hogs.
    Mclane and Stevens - why don't you just go crawl under a rock somewhere (maybe West Texas?) and leave the state!

  • December 20, 2007

    3:31 p.m.

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    CDee writes:

    Now Diff,
    What did West Texas ever do to you to deserve these "people"?

  • December 20, 2007

    4:22 p.m.

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    Diff writes:

    Just an ugly place to have to live (JK)
    West Texas is the only place you can stand in MUD up to your..
    Belt Buckle
    and get dust blown in your eye at the same time.

  • December 20, 2007

    7:35 p.m.

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    fortyfive writes:

    all of you people better watch out, i'm pooooor, broke and in need i will do the same and go before this judge and take some of your property and sell it back to you for a profit, this seems like a legal way to rob someone with their eyes wide open and still think they are your friend.what a joke this judje is. i wonder if they both ,being in the legal profession belong to the same good ole boys club just something to think about..........

  • December 20, 2007

    8:24 p.m.

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    Francesca writes:

    CDee, going back to your comment about land values... The McLean's property (approx. 1,800 ft. of older woodframe 3 bedrm. home, built in '77) was purchased in 1982 for $172.2K. It is now valued by Boulder County for actual account value of $893.5K. Well, it'll be more than that if this crime is gotten away with, because the lot is larger now and no inconvenient neighbors can come in and disturb the nice view. I don't know what an unimproved lot is worth over there, but can bet it's gotta be in the $500-$600K range. So if one-third of the current value of say (on the low end just the help out the thieves) $500 K is $167K, times each of 25 years Stevens/McLean claim to have helped themselves to it, that would add up to about $4.2 million. Then throw in one-third of whatever the Kirlins have paid in property tax and HOA totals per year, multiply again by 25 years and add money that into the total sum.

    I like your thinking CDee!!! I think Edith and Richard need to get their checkbook out and settle up.

    Guess the fact that the value of their property has increased five-fold isn't enough for them. How sad for them. Not.

  • December 21, 2007

    12:36 a.m.

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    cpeterson writes:

    Could someone please post here any businesses, clubs, churches, etc. patronized by the McLeans.

    We need to ostracize them from Colorado by ostracizing them from their everyday activities.

    Anyone doing business, socializing or even worshiping with these thieved needs to be branded with THE STAIN OF MCLEAN!

  • December 21, 2007

    6:56 a.m.

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    Raynelq writes:

    First of all, Mclean and Stevens had no business trespassing on their neighbors lot. The Mcleans are trying to make this appear as a country access case. The lot in question is a city lot not unlike a vacant lot you might have next to your lot. The Mcleans have to learn how to stay on their own property like good neighbors do. I am firmly on the Kirlin's side as to credibility.
    I believe the McLeans will never answer the obvious question: "Why can't you use your back door to access your backyard? The house guard on the day of the picnic/protest could."

  • December 30, 2007

    1:37 p.m.

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    mrw650 writes:

    Posted by horsinaround: The judge in the case absolutely should be removed. I do hope the voters in Boulder County will step up when it's time for his re-election and unanimously vote him out of office.

    Don't forget, there were two Judges involved. JUDGE MORRIS SANDSTEAD denied the Kirlins due process of law (in the form of a Hearing) when he granted a TRO (restraining order) to STOP them from building the fence, which would have put an end to the adverse possession claim--in its infancy. The TRO was granted within hours. Thanks to that, McLean and Stevens were able to "railroad" the rest through Judge Klein. This would not have been an issue, period, without Judge Morris Sandstead's "help."

    Judge Morris Sandstead has committed a violation of his oath of office to uphold the Constitution of the United States and the State of Colorado, he should be impeached by the Legislature without delay and investigated by the FBI for public corruption, collusion, conspiracy against rights, and deprivation of rights under color of law--all FEDERAL crimes.

  • November 18, 2008

    1:30 p.m.

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    Jacks writes:

    You can find their address on anywho.com.

    Send them a letter, letting them know how wrong they are.